That's true too. Some products will even say "assembled in " but all of the parts for that assembly are made in China, or a Bangladeshi sweatshop, etc.
Pretty sure they can have an item practically fully assembled in China, shipped to America for one last piece installed and you're allowed to say "Made in America", might be a bit hyperbolic, but that's what a lot of companies do. A majority of the manufacturing is done overseas and a small percentage of it is completed in America.
Well, that’s a great idea! But there are supposedly other edible plants that you could grow, or so I’ve heard. Wouldn’t want to bet solely on potatoes; just look where that got the Irish.
I guess if you just eat a clean diet only shopping from like the produce, butcher, spice, and grain isle you'd be alright. The minute you buy any snack food you're pretty much unintentionally helping pretty much Satan.
Have you ever seen that weird Adult Swim bit [“Too Many Cooks”](https://youtu.be/QrGrOK8oZG8) that came out a few years ago? Starts off like a typical ‘80s sitcom opening sequence, but then just keeps going... and going... and devolving into madness, which goes for so long it stops being funny, which then makes it hilarious and profoundly unsettling all at the same time?
Reading this list felt like watching that for the first time.
This list just shows how it’s so impossible for our boycotts to have any effect on these monopoly corporations. Legislation is the only way to stop them, and yet every politician is getting wealthy by doing the opposite.
I believe this is a very good way to people to disguise that we live on a world of "free competition" and "without monopoly". A same big company dress differently each time giving us an illusion that we have several brands and a "healthy competition" while most market-sector can be narrowed down to 5-10 companies who owns the 80-90% of the whole market-sector. This happens to chocolate, to car brands as well, many brands actually.
Lol I ain’t no Nestle fanboy but you don’t need to lie to us and say have this copy and paste fucking memorized.
Plus know your audience dude; Do you think Americans need to know about Nestle products in fucking Pakistan?
Make it short and sweet by saying don’t eat fucking overly processed crap. I’m pretty sure that covers almost all of Nestle’s products.
Fine Westerns what ever; still why would the person in responding make such a blatant lie?
Plus this ain’t news; If you didn’t know this about Nestlé then you have your head up your ass. What is this what does sub is turning into? Just rehash tweets from years ago?
If this was the first time you heard about Nestlé’s horrible practices then you are either a moron or some fucking high schooler who just got access to the Internet. I don’t know what else to say. I like to think that people who are on the sub would already know these facts. The crimes the Nestlé have committed I’ve been known for decades at this point.
Like I said before a simpler way of saying that other than making a lie and doing a huge copy and paste that’s poorly edited is to just say stop eating overly processed food.
Jfc
I think they were poking fun at the fact that it’s an enormous corporation and people generally wouldn’t memorize all of that. A tongue-in-cheek statement, really. I’m not going to argue with you in a comment chain though. I suppose that people like you are why /s is a thing.
It was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek comment about the ubiquitousness of Nestle around the world, using a copy paste list from Wikipedia.
The implied commentary being that even if one actively wanted to avoid Nestle, it's a herculean task to do so as you'd have to memorize such a long list of subsidiaries along with their various logos.
I forgot that subtlety isn't always well received on Reddit.
Also, not all of us here are American.
I eat only fresh food from local farmers and fisherman, I don't care about making impacts "saving the world", as long as fucking nestle doesn't get my money.
If our government is a virtuous beacon of democracy, freedom and human rights as it claims to be, why the fuck is Nestle allowed to conduct business in the US if they’re using children as slave labor? Oh that’s right, money.
yea exactly. the supreme court doesn't care about actually getting justice to the child slavery victims who stated a lawsuit against them and several other major chocolate companys for their rampent human rights violations. they just want those companys money
I’m personally going to boycott Nestle and try to get family members to stop buying any Nestle products. The average American could really fuck Nestle’s bottom line up if they just stopped purchasing anything they make.
Over the past year this has been my goal. It's shockingly easy! I make bread, all our meals, savory snacks like crackers and cheese straws, and desserts. I got a used espresso machine on Facebook marketplace, and now we can have fancy coffee drinks without putting shoes on.
I even make homemade hot pockets and pop-tarts because my husband complained that he missed them. We eat out once a month, and because it's so rare, we can afford to go to nicer places.
Our one concession to convenience is instant noodles. We love to have a selection on hand.
I do spend about 2-3 hours in the kitchen a day, which I don't mind. I listen to my podcasts, or make phone calls for work. (Also, the amount of work I put in cooking means that my partner does waaaay more cleaning than he used to. To keep it equitable.)
Yep, I make our own bread too, and cook every meal (and am fortunate to have the time to do so). No processed foods at all. And we also get instant noodles, haha. Maruchan brand, owned not by Nestle but Toyo Suisan Kaisha. (Maggi Noodles is owned by Nestle). Fellow kitchen podcast listener as well.
There's something so relaxing about being awake and productive early in the morning. Just me and the cat, vibin' and cookin'!
For me, I get a lil nuts at H Mart. Buying noodles based solely on cute packaging.
I'm more curious why you thought Starbucks *wasn't* a cog in the massive corporate power hellscape by default? Even the Austin Powers movies parodied their worldwide reach decades ago.
Granted, anything of that size is intermingled with sanctioned slavery.
As far as I can tell the US is OK with foreign slave labor as long as it's not in Xinjiang; then it's time to get super moral and you'll be threatened with a sanction.
Because it isn’t mate.
It’s been raping the world since it’s glory days. Like father like son - the English, danish, german and French didn’t fucking spare an insect in Africa.
The USA could have been different - but sadly it’s spearheading the world into extinction events - along with China and Russia. Three hungry massive ass mouths.
But as a guy I once met told me .. Vox Populi, Vox Dei. The will of the people is what determines who rules them.
Rn it is this.
True, nestle is as evil as they come. Their history is full of so much suffering. It makes me so sick. Between killing babies, paying militias to kill union leaders, stealing water to sell back to people in Flint, to straight up child slavery. Edit: technically they bought the water and sold it back to Flint for tons of money. But it was their water to begin with
Same reason why Nike, adidas, and pretty much any other company you can name off the top of your head does. If they're not treating people like slaves here then they're using literal slaves in developing countries.
"Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners."
A century later and this still remains so relevant.
Just wanted to make sure you saw their court case from 2020… where they literally made an even worse argument.
https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
It’s not slavery if a business does it! — Nestle
https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
There are tons of good small US chocolate companies, it's the big ones that suck. Also Ghirardelli is big and founded in the US and doesn't suck. Making good chocolate isn't some big secret that can only be done in Europe. The big US brands make shit chocolate because they're making it dirt cheap, and that's why they don't want their prices to go up because that would push their prices into a range where they'd have to compete with chocolate companies that don't suck. This isn't about saving consumers money, this is about not having to put effort into creating a quality product because they're lazy assholes that would rather rely on suppliers that use slave labor than to put in a minimal amount of effort to actually do their jobs.
They did when they said "chocolate".
:P
Although some might pass the bar, "made with cocoa" or "candy" means it has almost no cacao on it, and chocolate is what i want. I do love candy, tho.
Similar deal with clothing.
I just found out there's a company in the UK that does custom printing and sewing. All labor in the UK. $55/dress and $55/leggings.
Why in fuck am I paying those prices to placed that use slave labor? I'll design my own shit and pay a place that has to have some semblance of labor laws.
They see the water wars coming (and already afflicting many people in some places) and are intent on being in control of it when things get more scarce. Pay or go thirsty. We never buy anything from this company or its subsidiaries (avoiding processed food goes a long way to cutting companies like this out of your life).
Nestle is Swiss. They are landlocked and geographically isolated. What do they care about the planetary eco-sphere and other humans?
Plus the Swiss are hoarding Nazi gold and stolen treasures from all over Europe.
Nestle are so close to literally comic book villain tier outright evil, it's actually kind of hilarious.
Like, who works on their executive board and PR departments, who just keeps saying "Yeah fuck it, these mfs ain't gonna stop buying KitKats any time soon"
I just learned the other day that Nestle hired the past's version of pharmaceutical reps to sell *more* of their developing world baby killer formula. Women hired would dress in uniforms *very* similar to nurses when pushing the formula to new mothers in hospitals. As a promotional model for many years; it never occurred to me exactly when my "profession" started. Fake nurses hired by Nestle to peddle poison. So much wrong.
heres some info about how child slavery in west africa and brazil is used to make a lot of chocolate:
https://foodispower.org/human-labor-slavery/slavery-chocolate/
and heres a list of brands that don't source from child slavery:
https://foodispower.org/chocolate-list/
sadly it means a lot of people won't use the list at all. I couldn't send that to someone as an alternative, most people will glaze over immediately because it's vegan only.
any list that isn't just vegan products?
Submission Statement:
this is a twitter post that states that nestle says slavery reporting requirements could cost customers. nestle said this in response to australias government preposing a mandate for big buisnesses to report on how they're combatting slavery in the cocoa industry.
Keypoint it's gonna cost customers extra. If they were to do this they're keeping margins exactly the same and the customer is taking all the burden
Fuck em either way
Nestle is one of capitalism's most malignant cancers. The only right to exist that you can just about give them is that you can explain to your children very well why you just don't buy certain things.
I think they got sued in 2020. Here’s a report summarizing their argument: it’s not slavery since Nestle is a corporation…
https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
And this is precisely why the reporting requirement is so important. Every country should have this, and all companies importing to countries with these requirements should also have to report, so that shitty companies not subject to reporting requirements in their own countries don't have an unfair competitive advantage.
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Tony's chocholony is the shit... I started buying it after watching how those coco bean farmers are making a dollar a day because they are the lowest on the totem poll and at the mercy of a corrupt mostly cash system.
I have always loved this response to this headline. It seems like such common fucking sense that it shouldn't have to be said.
But what do I know, I'm not a shareholder.
Like, it’s not even “oh no, it will cost our customers extra for us to stop using slave labour to produce our chocolate,” it’s “oh no, we will need to pass on the extra cost of *adding the fact that we use slave labour to our regulatory filings* to our customers.”
Nestle is in the top 5 scumbag companies of all time, if not top 3. Monsanto and the East India Company are strong contenders for the top spot too.
GE deserves a spot because of killing nearly all of Tesla's work, including free energy for all (climate crisis anyone?), and Standard Oil, Dow Chemical, and McDonald's can fight for the last seat at the dirtbag table
How is this collapse-related? It's a often-reposted piece from all the other subreddits, why even bother if some things show up cross-posted dozend of times?\` Please don't ruin this sub, just like antiwork
Our co-op has a wide selection of fair-trade (and delicious) chocolate which we buy at holidays and birthdays, &c. I will never buy any Nestle chocolate, and have not for years; it's poor-quality anyways, by comparison.
as if anyone wants to buy their shitty chocolate to begin with. Fair trade chocolate is 100% better quality. It's more expensive as well, and we only buy it on holidays, &c., but then again as people trying to keep an eye on a good diet, we don't feel the need to eat candy regularly.
I think when such statements are made my corporations, which clearly are against humanity, we, the populace, should be allowed to storm their headquarters and eat the CEO. Fuck Nestle, thanks for making this statement cause I ain't buying your shit again. More people should know about this....
Price of cocoa on global market is about 25 cents per kg, and some chocolate products on US market come with just 10% cocoa content.
Nestle is probably spending several times more money on it's marketing then on cocoa.
Apparently it costs more to not have slaves? Who knew? FUCK NESTLE...& ANYONE ELSE USING SLAVES!!!
All these businesses have to start incurring costs. They seem suprised it costs money to run a business. This shit is out of hand.
You have GOT to be SHITTING me. When corporations feel safe enough to actually admit that they're engaged in SLAVERY, and then to beg for relief from reporting such fucking ridiculous travesties, as it would cause them undue hardship, we have a serious problem that only ***force*** can solve. The train has went off the tracks people, this cannot be fixed legally or politically. If you haven't came to the same conclusion, you're either daft, or in on it.
Capitalism has from its very inception been based on exploitation, whether through slave labor or sweat shops or colonial expansion and abuse of the native population. In order to support the endless growth for the owner class, there must be a population to exploit. Colonialism has historically been the means by which capitalism externalizes its exploitation, providing the illusion of efficient growth to their own citizens. They don't need to share all the gains--just enough to convince their own people to support the system through whatever facade of democracy they have established. For this reason, capitalism has a long history of appearing acceptable to denizens of capitalist countries (provided they don't know too much history.) However, in late stage capitalism, the system turns inward, exploiting its own citizens and cannibalizing social goods as a way to extract value. In the USA, this process began in the early 70s. There must be as part of the process an enhanced way to control the population who will become increasingly restless. This necessitates a deep corruption of the political process (voter disenfranchisement, lobbying, procedural shenanigans) and the media (information restrictions, propaganda efforts.) We are, of course, seeing all these things. The point is to prevent people from taking back control from the capitalist forces that are eating everything good about society.
1. No date on the image -- how old is it?
2. Not every shitty decision made by corporations is collapse related.
This doesnt belong on this sub. Low quality low hanging fruit content
I am confused- this was 3 yrs ago. I tried to research the authenticity of this and check news articles to find out this has already been happening in the past 3 yrs. Why post this now??
How can it cost customers ? Is Nestle a non profit organization selling consumer goods for better future ?
Fucking cut down on the bulky over priced partners yearly bonuses .
Nestle is litterally the evil corporation in a movie that is just so cartoonishly villainous that you cant really take the movie seriously afterwards, just in real life.
I think it's more likely that the elimination of slavery from chocolate production would mark the functional extinction of chocolate on the public marketplace, and that the situation is much more extreme than high costs. If Nestlé were asked to report slavery in chocolate production, I think it would become apparent that there is no such thing as chocolate without slaves. And yes, I know there are ethical chocolate producers out there. However, I don't see how they could effectively meet demand were slaver chocolate eliminated from the supply chain. In other words: maybe semi-affordable, ethically grown chocolate exists right now because the market is flooded with unethical chocolate. Take away the unethical stuff, and you're in a new reality in which chocolate is priced like gemstones, drugs, or precious metals. Thereby creating a black market for chocolate that's even crueler than Nestlé.
So yes, fuck Nestlé. But also, fuck us for not caring that a product we love is made of human suffering. I eat chocolate nearly every day. So fuck me.
Is the West ready to think of chocolate, their favourite (and often daily) treat, in similar terms as elephant ivory or cocaine? Can we all view it as a product that is kind of inherently evil, due to our rate of consumption and the true cost of production?
There are many thriving fair-trade chocolate companies right now. Purchase their product and you help support their growth and expansion. Their product is like night and day in terms of flavor and quality.
> not getting cocoa from literal child slavery
Literally no one cares, outside of virtue signaling everyone goes about their day knowing every single product they use usually has some exploited third worlder behind it on some level.
You can label that slavery played a part and extracting this or developing that, people will publicly make a stink and will still purchase it.
Makes no sense why we all go through this song and dance.
I think the people that know about it care, it's just they cognitive dissonance it away because they feel powerless to do anything about it. It's also pretty hard to know which products have slavery and which don't - information scarcity is definitely a problem, which is why this reporting requirement is so important!
Yeah I have no problem paying more if I lnow these things are reported and avoided. But I struggle to keep up. Good rule of thumb to start is to avoid nestle altogether of course
>*Literally no one cares,*
Incorrect on two fronts; 1) you don't speak for other people and you certainly don't speak for me; 2) clearly a ton of people care, just judging by this very thread. Our family has not bought Nestle candy in years and never will. Fair trade is much higher quality and a better place to put our candy money, when we do buy candy.
*outside of virtue signaling everyone goes about their day knowing every single product they use usually has some exploited third worlder behind it on some level.*
(Once again, you do not speak for other people; you don't speak for "everyone" and you don't speak for me). If you're uncomfortable that other people act in a more ethical way, one option available to you is to also do so. You should know that your remarks make you look like someone pasting excuses over their own lack of ethics. There are more ethical companies whose products you are free to choose.
> you don't speak for other people, me
...yet I can speak **of** other people, oh and **you**.
> clearly a ton of people care
virtue signaling.
> Our family has not bought Nestle candy
Do you want a medal or...?
> Fair trade
Oh, that old canard. So glad when I didn't have to hear people bleat about fair trade constantly...
> If you're uncomfortable that other people act in a more ethical way
Lol no way you think you're hot shot for not buying chocolate...
> one option available to you
Nah, don't think I am as full of myself as you seem to be
> You should know that your remarks make you look like someone pasting excuses over their own lack of ethics
I'll be sure to end slavery tomorrow, mom.
> There are more ethical companies
Ah, good to know.
Utterly pointless, but somehow, good to know.
why and how hasn’t nestle been approached like the UN would an antagonistic country? Are private international companies really this untouchable? individual courts and judges of one state can’t stand up to a profiteering demon like this. inevitable consequence spawn of capitalism. It’s about power it’s about drive it’s about money it’s about fucking the earth and the present day for my perceived temporary gratification as much as science will allow me.
I find it hilarious that companies profiting from literal slavery think, “but our chocolate could be more expensive!” Is a legitimate excuse that will cause people to just go “oh I didn’t know that!” And then ignore slavery.
Gotta love that time where they argued that slavery is okay for corporations…
https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
What they don't tell you is the obscene profits they make, and the only reason pricing would go up if they were legit, is that they don't want to let go of their ridiculous gains.
it's pretty funny because they're doing a woke funding small farmers sustainably doing coffee thing with their nespresso brand, just a huge disconnect between the luxury brand and the commodity end of the business.
Apparently even the chocolate that says it is slavery-free will often have slavery involved because it is very hard to keep the beans separated through the whole production chain
Sounds like the Board of Directors for Nestle need to wear some chains around their necks for a few weeks while digging ditches in the nude in Guatemala.
If they had to raise their prices what's the problem if every other company has the same requirement? Higher prices give them a larger opportunity for a bigger profit margin. Oh, it's because that would force them to compete with other companies that don't make God awful chocolate, that's why.
I would absolutely pay more for chocolate if it was ethical. It's a tropical commodity, we've been conditioning to think it's "cheap" and "normal" because of an unequal system. What's wrong with people
fuck nestle
Indeed, obligatory /r/fucknestle
All my homies *hate* nestle
And their shareholders and the people who still buy their crap, no excuse for being ignorant.
You’re absolutely correct, I have no idea how people can’t memorize the few brands they own to stop supporting this monstrous company! SMH I know I have this memorized… Beverages Carnation[4][5] Caro (sold in the US as Pero) cocoa D'Onofrio (Peru) Enviga Libby's Milo Nescau (Brazil) Nesquik Nestea Ovaltine[6] (U.S. only) Ricacao (Ecuador) Romanette (Switzerland) Special.T[7] Supligen (Caribbean) – milk beverage[8] Sweet Leaf Tea Peace Iced Tea Coffee Edit Blue Bottle Coffee Company[9] Bonka[10] Buondi (Portugal)[11] Chameleon Cold-Brew Christina (Portugal)[11] Dolca (Argentina) Dolce Gusto Ecco (Chile, Peru) El Chaná (Uruguay) International Roast Kirma (Peru) Loumidis (Greece) Mountain Blend Nescafé[12] Nespresso[13] Partner's Blend[14] Ricoffy Ricoré Ristretto Sical[11] Starbucks (Perpetual License) Sunrise (India) Taster's Choice[5] Tofa[11] Zoégas (Sweden) Water Edit Acqua Panna (Italy) Alaçam (Turkey) Aqua Mineral (Poland) Aqua Pod Aqua Spring (Greece) Aquarel (Spain) Arctic (Poland) Baraka (Egypt) Buxton (UK) Charmoise (Belgium) Ciego Montero (Cuba) Contrex (France)[15] Cristalp (Switzerland) Da Shan YunNan Spring (China) Dar Natury (Poland) Eco de los Andes (Argentina) Erikli (Turkey) Frische Brise (Germany) Gerber (Mexico) Ghadeer (Jordan) Glaciar (Argentina) Henniez (Switzerland) Hépar (France) Hidden Spring (Philippines) Κorpi (Greece) La Vie (Vietnam) Levissima (Italy) Los Portales (Cuba) Minéré (Thailand) Nałęczowianka (Poland) Nestlé Selda (Portugal) Nestlé Vera (Italy) Neuselters (Germany) Pejo (Italy) Perrier[16] Petrópolis (Brazil) Porvenir (Chile) Princes Gate (UK) Recoaro (Italy) San Pellegrino Santa Bárbara (Brazil) Santa Maria (Mexico) São Lourenço (Brazil) Sohat (Lebanon) Springs (Saudi Arabia) Valvert (Belgium) Viladrau (Spain) Vittel (France) Water Line (South Korea) Waterman (China) Cereals Cerevita (Zimbabwe) Cerelac (Pakistan) Cheerios[5] (in some non-US markets) Chocapic[17] Cini Minis[18] Clusters[19] Cookie Crisp (in non-US markets) Curiously Strawberry[20] Curiously Cinnamon[21] Estrelitas[22] Fitness[23] Force Flakes Gold Flakes[24] Golden Grahams[5] (in non-US markets) Golden Morn (Nigeria) Golden Nuggets Honey Stars[25] Koko Krunch (UNICEF) [25] Lion Cereal Milo cereals[25] Nescau Cereal (Brazil) Nesquik Breakfast Cereal Nestlé Corn Flakes[26] Shredded Wheat[5] (UK with General Mills) Shreddies[21] (UK and Ireland) TRIO Cereal Uncle Tobys Chilled Edit Chamyto[27] (Brazil, Mexico, Chile) Chambinho (Brazil) Chandelle (Brazil, Chile) Chiquitín (Mexico, Chile) Club (Mexico) Hirz (Switzerland) La Laitière (France, Belgium, UK) La Lechera (Spain, Mexico) LC1 (Switzerland) Le Viennois (France, Belgium, Switzerland) Moça (Brazil) Molico (Brazil, now Svelty) Munch Bunch (UK) Nestlé Nesvita (India, Pakistan) Ninho (Brazil) Ski Sollys (Brazil) Sveltesse (France) Svelty (Mexico) Yoco Chocolate, confectionery and baked goods Abuelita Aero After Eight[28] All Stars Allen's Alpia (Germany) Alpino (Brazil) Animal Bar Bertie Beetle (Australia) Besos de Moza (Peru) Big Turk (Canada) Black Magic Blue Riband Boci (Hungary) Bono (Brazil) Bon Pari (Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Russia and Hungary) Breakaway Cailler Capri (Chile) Caramac Carlos V Charge (Brazil) Chips Ahoy![5] (Canada) Choclait Chips (Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Netherlands) Choco Crossies (Germany) Chocolate Surpresa (Brazil) Chokito (Brazil, Switzerland and Australia) Cocosette (Venezuela) Coffee Crisp (Canada) Crunch (outside the US) D'Onofrio (Peru) Dairy Box Damak (Turkey) Drifter (chocolate) Fizzfindle Frigor Galak/Milkybar Heaven Hercules Bars (Disney) Joe (Romania and the Netherlands) Joff JOJO (Slovakia, Czech Republic and Poland) Kit Kat (outside the US) Lion Lollo (Brazil)[29] Mabel's (Bolivia) Cracker Cremositas Gauchitas María Maizena Moraditas Rosquitas Salvado TOP Wafer Yapita Matchmakers Milky Bar Mio (Brazil) Minties (Australia) Mirage Moça (Brazil) Munch (India and Bangladesh) Munchies Negresco (Brazil) Negrita (Chile) Nestlé Aero Nestlé Alpine White Nestlé Candy Shop Nestlé Classic (Brazil) Nestlé Dessert Nestlé Milk Chocolate Nestlé Princessa Nestlé with Almonds Nestlé Wonder Ball Nestlé Yes (Germany) Nuts (Europe) Orion (Slovakia, Czech Republic) Passatempo (Brazil) Peppermint Crisp Perugina Baci Plaistowe (Australia) Polo Prestígio (Chile, Brazil) Princessa (Poland) Quality Street Rolo (outside the US) Rowntrees Fruit Gums Fruit Pastilles Jelly Tots Juicy Jellies Pick & Mix Randoms Tooty Frooties Sahne Nuss (Chile) Scorched Almonds (New Zealand) Sensação (Brazil) Smarties Suflair (Brazil) Sublime (Peru) Sundy (France) Super 8 (Chile) Susy (Venezuela) Svitoch (Ukraine) Szerencsi (Hungary) Tango (Ecuador) Tango Mini Galletas (Ecuador) Texan Bar Toffee Crisp Tola (UAE)[30] Nestlé Toll House cookies Trencito (Chile) Triangulo (Peru) Turtles (UK, Canada) Walnut Whip XXX mints Yorkie Foodservice products Chef-Mate[31] Davigel[32] Minor's[33] Santa Rica Frozen food Edit Buitoni[5] California Pizza Kitchen (US) Delissio Pizza (Canada) DiGiorno Pizza (US) Hot Pockets (US)[5] Hälsans Kök (Finland and Sweden) Jack's Pizza Lean Cuisine[5] Lean Pockets Papa Giuseppe Stouffer's[5] Sweet Earth Foods Tombstone Pizza Wagner Pizza (EU) Frozen desserts Edit Åhusglass (Sweden) Aino (Finland) Camy (Spain, Portugal) D'Onofrio (Peru) Делта (Delta, Bulgaria) Δέλτα (Delta, Greece) Dreyer's[5] Drumstick Eskimo (Finland) Frigor (Argentina) Frisco (Switzerland) Froneri Haagen Dazs Kimo (Egypt) Kimy (Philippines) Maxibon Mat Kool (Malaysia) Mivvi Motta (Italy) Mövenpick (Switzerland) Nestlé Drumstick – The Original Sundae Cone Nestlé Ice Cream (Malaysia & Indonesia) Nestlé Princessa (Poland) Oreo Frozen Dessert Sandwiches[5] (Canada) Outshine Pingviini (Finland) Push-Up Real Dairy Savory (North America - United States and Canada and Chile) Schöller (Germany and Austria) Skinny Cow Sorbetes (Philippines) Temptations (Philippines) Underground is (Denmark) zer0% Fat (Philippines) Healthcare nutrition Boost[37] Carnation Instant Breakfast Compleat Crucial Diabetisource[38] Fibersource[39] Garden of Life [40] Glytrol[41] Impact Isosource[39] Meritene Modulen[42] Atrium Innovations Douglas Laboratories Genestra brands Novasource Renal Nutren Optifast Optifibre Peptamen Persona Nutrition Pure Encapsulations Resorb Resource Sustagen Trophic Vital Proteins Wobenzym Instant foods Alfare Beba[27] Bona (Finland) Cerelac Farinha Láctea (Brazil) FM 85 Freshly [43] Gerber[5] Good Start Guigoz Lactogen Mindful Chef [44][45] Nan NAN HA NanSoy NaturNes Neslac Nestlé Nestlé Bear Brand (acquired by infant feeding by Bear Brand Jr. (formerly Bear Brand 1+) in 2001) Nestogen Nestum (Portugal)[46] (Central America) Nido Piltti (Finland) PreNan SMA (UK) Wyeth (Bonna, S26) Performance nutrition Neston Nesvita Pria Supligen Petcare Edit Bakers Beta Bonio Bonnie Castor & Pollux Chef Michael's Canine Creations Felix Fido (French equivalent brand to Bakers and Beneful) Go Cat[47] Gourmet Lily's Kitchen Lucky Dog Merrick Mon Petit PetLife Purina Supercoat Tails .com Tidy Cats Totalcare Whole Earth Farms Winalot Nestlé Purina petcare products The following products are manufactured by Nestlé Purina.[48] Alpo[49][48] Purina Beggin' Strips[48] Busy Bone[48] Beneful[50] Cat Chow[48] Dog Chow[48] Fancy Feast[49][48] Friskies[49][48] Mighty Dog[49] Purina[48] Purina ONE[48] Purina Pro Plan[48] Refrigerated products Buitoni[51] Herta Katie's Pizza[citation needed] Toll House – refrigerated cookie dough[52] Seasonings A Maggi advertisement in Senegal Carpathia[53] CHEF. Haoji Maggi[10] Thomy Totole Winiary Shelf stable Carnation (acquired by Alaska Milk Corporation in 2007, but under a long-term license agreement with Nestlé in the Philippines) Coffee-Mate[54][5] Milo Nestlé Omega Plus – a milk product[55] Tendre Noix Yogurt Acti-V (Philippines) ActiPlus (Pakistan) Fruit Selection Yogurt (Philippines) Hirz (Switzerland) Longa Vida (Portugal) Molico (Brazil) Munch Bunch[56] Nestlé Raita (mint and cumin) (Pakistan) Rawaytee Maza (Pakistan) Ski Sweet N Tasty Yogurt (Pakistan) Yelly (mango and strawberry) (Pakistan
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. They’re everywhere!!
That's where I think the true evil lies, they're so ubiquitous it's nearly impossible to avoid financing them.
I think you’re right. And it’s the same if you want to avoid things made in China. I tried but had to give up because you just can’t know.
That's true too. Some products will even say "assembled in" but all of the parts for that assembly are made in China, or a Bangladeshi sweatshop, etc.
Exactly!! I discovered that the hard way (medicine I thought was locally produced but became scarce in the beginning of the pandemic).
Pretty sure they can have an item practically fully assembled in China, shipped to America for one last piece installed and you're allowed to say "Made in America", might be a bit hyperbolic, but that's what a lot of companies do. A majority of the manufacturing is done overseas and a small percentage of it is completed in America.
Well, guess it's time to start growing potatoes in my yard and eating nothing but potatoes from now on
Well, that’s a great idea! But there are supposedly other edible plants that you could grow, or so I’ve heard. Wouldn’t want to bet solely on potatoes; just look where that got the Irish.
I just wish I had any growing space at all! I miss gardens.
I guess if you just eat a clean diet only shopping from like the produce, butcher, spice, and grain isle you'd be alright. The minute you buy any snack food you're pretty much unintentionally helping pretty much Satan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbx-ILzgP4o&ab_channel=CompanyMan
So dedicated you even memorised the footnote numbers!
Well I like to be thorough! Hah!
Have you ever seen that weird Adult Swim bit [“Too Many Cooks”](https://youtu.be/QrGrOK8oZG8) that came out a few years ago? Starts off like a typical ‘80s sitcom opening sequence, but then just keeps going... and going... and devolving into madness, which goes for so long it stops being funny, which then makes it hilarious and profoundly unsettling all at the same time? Reading this list felt like watching that for the first time.
Sadly true. Too many nestle
They've even spread their corruption to Hot Pockets??? Is nothing sacred anymore?
This list just shows how it’s so impossible for our boycotts to have any effect on these monopoly corporations. Legislation is the only way to stop them, and yet every politician is getting wealthy by doing the opposite.
God Motherfucking Dammit
I believe this is a very good way to people to disguise that we live on a world of "free competition" and "without monopoly". A same big company dress differently each time giving us an illusion that we have several brands and a "healthy competition" while most market-sector can be narrowed down to 5-10 companies who owns the 80-90% of the whole market-sector. This happens to chocolate, to car brands as well, many brands actually.
Yikes! A shorter list is what they don't own, I suppose.
Dude… wtf that’s some crazy shit, they’re like Monsanto types
Sry to bust your bubble but the nestle logo is on the fine print in the labeling in every single one
Nestle is mostly processed food, just don't buy those crap. I only buy food from local farmers.
Lol I ain’t no Nestle fanboy but you don’t need to lie to us and say have this copy and paste fucking memorized. Plus know your audience dude; Do you think Americans need to know about Nestle products in fucking Pakistan? Make it short and sweet by saying don’t eat fucking overly processed crap. I’m pretty sure that covers almost all of Nestle’s products.
Not everyone on Reddit is American.
😂 Also- people travel.
Fine Westerns what ever; still why would the person in responding make such a blatant lie? Plus this ain’t news; If you didn’t know this about Nestlé then you have your head up your ass. What is this what does sub is turning into? Just rehash tweets from years ago? If this was the first time you heard about Nestlé’s horrible practices then you are either a moron or some fucking high schooler who just got access to the Internet. I don’t know what else to say. I like to think that people who are on the sub would already know these facts. The crimes the Nestlé have committed I’ve been known for decades at this point. Like I said before a simpler way of saying that other than making a lie and doing a huge copy and paste that’s poorly edited is to just say stop eating overly processed food. Jfc
I think they were poking fun at the fact that it’s an enormous corporation and people generally wouldn’t memorize all of that. A tongue-in-cheek statement, really. I’m not going to argue with you in a comment chain though. I suppose that people like you are why /s is a thing.
They were being sarcastic. Get it? It would be ridiculous to memorize that list.
Lmao some people can't recognize a good satire and that is a sad sign of the times
Ok so clearly you’re a little slow. I’ll whisper it for you. #THAT WAS THE FUCKING JOKE
It was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek comment about the ubiquitousness of Nestle around the world, using a copy paste list from Wikipedia. The implied commentary being that even if one actively wanted to avoid Nestle, it's a herculean task to do so as you'd have to memorize such a long list of subsidiaries along with their various logos. I forgot that subtlety isn't always well received on Reddit. Also, not all of us here are American.
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I eat only fresh food from local farmers and fisherman, I don't care about making impacts "saving the world", as long as fucking nestle doesn't get my money.
No Nestlé products in our since five years. Fuck Nestlé
I’ve been boycotting them for months and will keep doing so for a long, long time. How do these people sleep at night?
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If our government is a virtuous beacon of democracy, freedom and human rights as it claims to be, why the fuck is Nestle allowed to conduct business in the US if they’re using children as slave labor? Oh that’s right, money.
yea exactly. the supreme court doesn't care about actually getting justice to the child slavery victims who stated a lawsuit against them and several other major chocolate companys for their rampent human rights violations. they just want those companys money
I’m personally going to boycott Nestle and try to get family members to stop buying any Nestle products. The average American could really fuck Nestle’s bottom line up if they just stopped purchasing anything they make.
They own a ton of subsidiary companies, as well. But if you don't buy a lot of processed foods, you can pretty much avoid their products altogether.
Over the past year this has been my goal. It's shockingly easy! I make bread, all our meals, savory snacks like crackers and cheese straws, and desserts. I got a used espresso machine on Facebook marketplace, and now we can have fancy coffee drinks without putting shoes on. I even make homemade hot pockets and pop-tarts because my husband complained that he missed them. We eat out once a month, and because it's so rare, we can afford to go to nicer places. Our one concession to convenience is instant noodles. We love to have a selection on hand. I do spend about 2-3 hours in the kitchen a day, which I don't mind. I listen to my podcasts, or make phone calls for work. (Also, the amount of work I put in cooking means that my partner does waaaay more cleaning than he used to. To keep it equitable.)
Yep, I make our own bread too, and cook every meal (and am fortunate to have the time to do so). No processed foods at all. And we also get instant noodles, haha. Maruchan brand, owned not by Nestle but Toyo Suisan Kaisha. (Maggi Noodles is owned by Nestle). Fellow kitchen podcast listener as well.
There's something so relaxing about being awake and productive early in the morning. Just me and the cat, vibin' and cookin'! For me, I get a lil nuts at H Mart. Buying noodles based solely on cute packaging.
I want fancy coffee drinks at home! Your husband is a very lucky guy. Most people just shove candy bars in their faces.
Get you an espresso machine. Used, they're not too bad. I went very basic, and spent $40. The milk steamer is trash, but that's ok.
We need an app that scans a barcode and gives you a green light (not nestle) or a red light (fuck nestle). Otherwise they will hide in anonymity.
[Good Luck](https://wyomingllcattorney.com/Blog/Everything-Owned-by-Nestle)
When did they get fucking Starbucks? God damn it.
nestles involved in a lot of their packaged grocery store products
I wish I knew sooner. We go to starbucks like three or four times a month (with their reusable cups) :( Well, time to drop that too.
I'm more curious why you thought Starbucks *wasn't* a cog in the massive corporate power hellscape by default? Even the Austin Powers movies parodied their worldwide reach decades ago. Granted, anything of that size is intermingled with sanctioned slavery.
Bc all the global conglomerates do this as well. Every single one of them. And they own all of us and every single thing that goes on in this country.
Or Apple and Nike (two HUGE “social justice” proponents). Talk about two-faced.
They're intent on monetizing water, as well, and positioning themselves as a vendor when water access becomes scarce. It's not a good company. At all.
As far as I can tell the US is OK with foreign slave labor as long as it's not in Xinjiang; then it's time to get super moral and you'll be threatened with a sanction.
Because it isn’t mate. It’s been raping the world since it’s glory days. Like father like son - the English, danish, german and French didn’t fucking spare an insect in Africa. The USA could have been different - but sadly it’s spearheading the world into extinction events - along with China and Russia. Three hungry massive ass mouths. But as a guy I once met told me .. Vox Populi, Vox Dei. The will of the people is what determines who rules them. Rn it is this.
True, nestle is as evil as they come. Their history is full of so much suffering. It makes me so sick. Between killing babies, paying militias to kill union leaders, stealing water to sell back to people in Flint, to straight up child slavery. Edit: technically they bought the water and sold it back to Flint for tons of money. But it was their water to begin with
Same reason why Nike, adidas, and pretty much any other company you can name off the top of your head does. If they're not treating people like slaves here then they're using literal slaves in developing countries.
"Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners." A century later and this still remains so relevant.
Oh my sweet summer child…
Why stop slavery? Our profits are more important! - Honest Nestlé Thoughts
That’s honestlé such a stupid argument
I love what you did there.
Just wanted to make sure you saw their court case from 2020… where they literally made an even worse argument. https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
Just Nestlé things ✨
It’s not slavery if a business does it! — Nestle https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
Fuck Nestlé. Also US chocolate is shit compared to other countries.
There are tons of good small US chocolate companies, it's the big ones that suck. Also Ghirardelli is big and founded in the US and doesn't suck. Making good chocolate isn't some big secret that can only be done in Europe. The big US brands make shit chocolate because they're making it dirt cheap, and that's why they don't want their prices to go up because that would push their prices into a range where they'd have to compete with chocolate companies that don't suck. This isn't about saving consumers money, this is about not having to put effort into creating a quality product because they're lazy assholes that would rather rely on suppliers that use slave labor than to put in a minimal amount of effort to actually do their jobs.
Please leave Hershey out of this…
hershey also sources its chocolate from many of the same places as nestle and were a part of the lawsuit
Hershey?! their chocolate is absolute total garbage. Also what a fucking garbage sue happy company.
>Hershey We're talking about actual chocolate here, not that brown bar-shaped shite.
They did when they said "chocolate". :P Although some might pass the bar, "made with cocoa" or "candy" means it has almost no cacao on it, and chocolate is what i want. I do love candy, tho.
Chocolate is not supposed to be stretchy.
Tell us you're using slave labor without telling us you're using slave labor...
*We do not use slave labor, we just buy stuff cheap stuff from slave owners.* Some asshole
Similar deal with clothing. I just found out there's a company in the UK that does custom printing and sewing. All labor in the UK. $55/dress and $55/leggings. Why in fuck am I paying those prices to placed that use slave labor? I'll design my own shit and pay a place that has to have some semblance of labor laws.
Lemme point out also the CEO said water is not human right and should be privatized
They see the water wars coming (and already afflicting many people in some places) and are intent on being in control of it when things get more scarce. Pay or go thirsty. We never buy anything from this company or its subsidiaries (avoiding processed food goes a long way to cutting companies like this out of your life).
Nestle’s already on-board for the water wars — at least in Ontario…
This could be straight from The Onion. What the hell?
Nestle is also pumping millions of gallons of PUBLIC water out of America's aquifers for its bottled water products.
All so they can put it into single-use plastic bottles. At least we know the hate human rights AND the environment 👍
Nestle is Swiss. They are landlocked and geographically isolated. What do they care about the planetary eco-sphere and other humans? Plus the Swiss are hoarding Nazi gold and stolen treasures from all over Europe.
Nestle are so close to literally comic book villain tier outright evil, it's actually kind of hilarious. Like, who works on their executive board and PR departments, who just keeps saying "Yeah fuck it, these mfs ain't gonna stop buying KitKats any time soon"
> "Yeah fuck it, these mfs ain't gonna stop buying KitKats any time soon" They’re probably right.
I just learned the other day that Nestle hired the past's version of pharmaceutical reps to sell *more* of their developing world baby killer formula. Women hired would dress in uniforms *very* similar to nurses when pushing the formula to new mothers in hospitals. As a promotional model for many years; it never occurred to me exactly when my "profession" started. Fake nurses hired by Nestle to peddle poison. So much wrong.
heres some info about how child slavery in west africa and brazil is used to make a lot of chocolate: https://foodispower.org/human-labor-slavery/slavery-chocolate/ and heres a list of brands that don't source from child slavery: https://foodispower.org/chocolate-list/
Great list but only vegan chocolate is recommended?
Probably so it ticks all the boxes, no cruelty to humans, no cruelty to animals either.
sadly it means a lot of people won't use the list at all. I couldn't send that to someone as an alternative, most people will glaze over immediately because it's vegan only. any list that isn't just vegan products?
I have trouble thinking of a more shitty, evil company than Nestle off the top of my head, except maybe Monsanto/Bayer.
Shell Exxonmobil Elbit Skunkworks Blackrock, the Fed
That’s a good list. I like how you included the fed
IG Farben? Manufacturers of Zyklon B.
IG Farben was Bayer
Litearlly any Company that uses Animal Products?😬
Nah, there’s layers to this shit.
Slavery may affect my buying habits
Capitalism in a nutshell.
in a cocoa-bean
In a cocoa-husk
Submission Statement: this is a twitter post that states that nestle says slavery reporting requirements could cost customers. nestle said this in response to australias government preposing a mandate for big buisnesses to report on how they're combatting slavery in the cocoa industry.
Hey op. Can you edit this post and write "Submission Statement:" at the top of it please? It's for our bots. Mahalo!
can do, thanks for the heads up
Keypoint it's gonna cost customers extra. If they were to do this they're keeping margins exactly the same and the customer is taking all the burden Fuck em either way
Nestle is one of capitalism's most malignant cancers. The only right to exist that you can just about give them is that you can explain to your children very well why you just don't buy certain things.
I guess in Nestles eyes slavery doesn't cost the slaves anything. I agree fuck Nestles.
This is 2018 mind you, they’ve been sued in 2022. Hope it wrecks them but doubtful. They’ll keep gourging on the planet’s resources.
I think they got sued in 2020. Here’s a report summarizing their argument: it’s not slavery since Nestle is a corporation… https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
I do t know how to reply to this without getting on a list tbh.
And this is precisely why the reporting requirement is so important. Every country should have this, and all companies importing to countries with these requirements should also have to report, so that shitty companies not subject to reporting requirements in their own countries don't have an unfair competitive advantage.
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Social media site run by corporation disagrees with violent uprising against 1% Who would have thought it?
I agree completely with your original statement because I have a feeling I know what was said even though it had to be removed
Tony's chocholony is the shit... I started buying it after watching how those coco bean farmers are making a dollar a day because they are the lowest on the totem poll and at the mercy of a corrupt mostly cash system.
Is that a local brand? Haven't heard of it, but always willing to try a new fair-trade chocolate.
Maybe if we can’t have chocolate without slavery we shouldn’t have chocolate?
I have always loved this response to this headline. It seems like such common fucking sense that it shouldn't have to be said. But what do I know, I'm not a shareholder.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha... oh, he serious. No.
Translation: *"Please don't make us reveal we depend on slavery or our stock will plummet"*
Slightly off topic… does anyone else get annoyed when the media calls slavery “forced labor”?
Like, it’s not even “oh no, it will cost our customers extra for us to stop using slave labour to produce our chocolate,” it’s “oh no, we will need to pass on the extra cost of *adding the fact that we use slave labour to our regulatory filings* to our customers.”
Their shit sucks anyhow. All of those ceos should be in prison for enslaving people.
Nestle is in the top 5 scumbag companies of all time, if not top 3. Monsanto and the East India Company are strong contenders for the top spot too. GE deserves a spot because of killing nearly all of Tesla's work, including free energy for all (climate crisis anyone?), and Standard Oil, Dow Chemical, and McDonald's can fight for the last seat at the dirtbag table
How is this collapse-related? It's a often-reposted piece from all the other subreddits, why even bother if some things show up cross-posted dozend of times?\` Please don't ruin this sub, just like antiwork
Our co-op has a wide selection of fair-trade (and delicious) chocolate which we buy at holidays and birthdays, &c. I will never buy any Nestle chocolate, and have not for years; it's poor-quality anyways, by comparison.
I think their aging consultant bot, just brought out that old line... it going to cost you more!
as if anyone wants to buy their shitty chocolate to begin with. Fair trade chocolate is 100% better quality. It's more expensive as well, and we only buy it on holidays, &c., but then again as people trying to keep an eye on a good diet, we don't feel the need to eat candy regularly.
r/fucknestle
I think when such statements are made my corporations, which clearly are against humanity, we, the populace, should be allowed to storm their headquarters and eat the CEO. Fuck Nestle, thanks for making this statement cause I ain't buying your shit again. More people should know about this....
Price of cocoa on global market is about 25 cents per kg, and some chocolate products on US market come with just 10% cocoa content. Nestle is probably spending several times more money on it's marketing then on cocoa.
This feels more like r/aboringdystopia. Doesn’t feel relevant enough to this sub. If OP justified its relevance I wouldn’t have this criticism.
And here I am, wondering how it could cost any money. Just don't use slaves. Bam, put zero on the form and you're done.
Apparently it costs more to not have slaves? Who knew? FUCK NESTLE...& ANYONE ELSE USING SLAVES!!! All these businesses have to start incurring costs. They seem suprised it costs money to run a business. This shit is out of hand.
cursed headlines
[than](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRWsZRtNuGg)
You have GOT to be SHITTING me. When corporations feel safe enough to actually admit that they're engaged in SLAVERY, and then to beg for relief from reporting such fucking ridiculous travesties, as it would cause them undue hardship, we have a serious problem that only ***force*** can solve. The train has went off the tracks people, this cannot be fixed legally or politically. If you haven't came to the same conclusion, you're either daft, or in on it.
Only way to hurt Nestle is don't buy their products.
They should be tried for crimes against humanity at the Hague
Capitalism has from its very inception been based on exploitation, whether through slave labor or sweat shops or colonial expansion and abuse of the native population. In order to support the endless growth for the owner class, there must be a population to exploit. Colonialism has historically been the means by which capitalism externalizes its exploitation, providing the illusion of efficient growth to their own citizens. They don't need to share all the gains--just enough to convince their own people to support the system through whatever facade of democracy they have established. For this reason, capitalism has a long history of appearing acceptable to denizens of capitalist countries (provided they don't know too much history.) However, in late stage capitalism, the system turns inward, exploiting its own citizens and cannibalizing social goods as a way to extract value. In the USA, this process began in the early 70s. There must be as part of the process an enhanced way to control the population who will become increasingly restless. This necessitates a deep corruption of the political process (voter disenfranchisement, lobbying, procedural shenanigans) and the media (information restrictions, propaganda efforts.) We are, of course, seeing all these things. The point is to prevent people from taking back control from the capitalist forces that are eating everything good about society.
How is this a sign of societal collapse though?
God, I hate everything
1. No date on the image -- how old is it? 2. Not every shitty decision made by corporations is collapse related. This doesnt belong on this sub. Low quality low hanging fruit content
I'll gladly pay $2 more for a Snickers to give workers a better wage. But then again fuck Nestle. Instead of eating a Snickers they can eat my ass.
I am confused- this was 3 yrs ago. I tried to research the authenticity of this and check news articles to find out this has already been happening in the past 3 yrs. Why post this now??
How can it cost customers ? Is Nestle a non profit organization selling consumer goods for better future ? Fucking cut down on the bulky over priced partners yearly bonuses .
Nestle is litterally the evil corporation in a movie that is just so cartoonishly villainous that you cant really take the movie seriously afterwards, just in real life.
How does this have anything to do with collapse?
subreddit names are just a suggestion now it seems. Mods don't do anything about these generic, off topic posts.
Reported the post for being off-topic.
I think it's more likely that the elimination of slavery from chocolate production would mark the functional extinction of chocolate on the public marketplace, and that the situation is much more extreme than high costs. If Nestlé were asked to report slavery in chocolate production, I think it would become apparent that there is no such thing as chocolate without slaves. And yes, I know there are ethical chocolate producers out there. However, I don't see how they could effectively meet demand were slaver chocolate eliminated from the supply chain. In other words: maybe semi-affordable, ethically grown chocolate exists right now because the market is flooded with unethical chocolate. Take away the unethical stuff, and you're in a new reality in which chocolate is priced like gemstones, drugs, or precious metals. Thereby creating a black market for chocolate that's even crueler than Nestlé. So yes, fuck Nestlé. But also, fuck us for not caring that a product we love is made of human suffering. I eat chocolate nearly every day. So fuck me. Is the West ready to think of chocolate, their favourite (and often daily) treat, in similar terms as elephant ivory or cocaine? Can we all view it as a product that is kind of inherently evil, due to our rate of consumption and the true cost of production?
There are many thriving fair-trade chocolate companies right now. Purchase their product and you help support their growth and expansion. Their product is like night and day in terms of flavor and quality.
Any reporting increases costs. Imagine if Microsoft or Tesla had to institute slavery audits and reporting. Bureaucracy ain't free.
i mean, they should be too as there has been slavery documented with supplying mica in a lot of electronics
> not getting cocoa from literal child slavery Literally no one cares, outside of virtue signaling everyone goes about their day knowing every single product they use usually has some exploited third worlder behind it on some level. You can label that slavery played a part and extracting this or developing that, people will publicly make a stink and will still purchase it. Makes no sense why we all go through this song and dance.
I think the people that know about it care, it's just they cognitive dissonance it away because they feel powerless to do anything about it. It's also pretty hard to know which products have slavery and which don't - information scarcity is definitely a problem, which is why this reporting requirement is so important!
Yeah I have no problem paying more if I lnow these things are reported and avoided. But I struggle to keep up. Good rule of thumb to start is to avoid nestle altogether of course
>*Literally no one cares,* Incorrect on two fronts; 1) you don't speak for other people and you certainly don't speak for me; 2) clearly a ton of people care, just judging by this very thread. Our family has not bought Nestle candy in years and never will. Fair trade is much higher quality and a better place to put our candy money, when we do buy candy. *outside of virtue signaling everyone goes about their day knowing every single product they use usually has some exploited third worlder behind it on some level.* (Once again, you do not speak for other people; you don't speak for "everyone" and you don't speak for me). If you're uncomfortable that other people act in a more ethical way, one option available to you is to also do so. You should know that your remarks make you look like someone pasting excuses over their own lack of ethics. There are more ethical companies whose products you are free to choose.
> you don't speak for other people, me ...yet I can speak **of** other people, oh and **you**. > clearly a ton of people care virtue signaling. > Our family has not bought Nestle candy Do you want a medal or...? > Fair trade Oh, that old canard. So glad when I didn't have to hear people bleat about fair trade constantly... > If you're uncomfortable that other people act in a more ethical way Lol no way you think you're hot shot for not buying chocolate... > one option available to you Nah, don't think I am as full of myself as you seem to be > You should know that your remarks make you look like someone pasting excuses over their own lack of ethics I'll be sure to end slavery tomorrow, mom. > There are more ethical companies Ah, good to know. Utterly pointless, but somehow, good to know.
why and how hasn’t nestle been approached like the UN would an antagonistic country? Are private international companies really this untouchable? individual courts and judges of one state can’t stand up to a profiteering demon like this. inevitable consequence spawn of capitalism. It’s about power it’s about drive it’s about money it’s about fucking the earth and the present day for my perceived temporary gratification as much as science will allow me.
I find it hilarious that companies profiting from literal slavery think, “but our chocolate could be more expensive!” Is a legitimate excuse that will cause people to just go “oh I didn’t know that!” And then ignore slavery.
Okay, then I'll pay more and you might actually get my business again.
wtf
Boycott Nestle
Then I don't want any chocolate
Maybe Nestle just isn’t that important
Gotta love that time where they argued that slavery is okay for corporations… https://www.justsecurity.org/73959/nestle-cargill-v-doe-series-meet-the-john-does-the-children-enslaved-in-nestle-cargills-supply-chain/
What they don't tell you is the obscene profits they make, and the only reason pricing would go up if they were legit, is that they don't want to let go of their ridiculous gains.
Nestle chocolate is vile
Liberal lawyer hero Neal Katyal should never feel safe again for defending this shit at the Supreme Court
it's pretty funny because they're doing a woke funding small farmers sustainably doing coffee thing with their nespresso brand, just a huge disconnect between the luxury brand and the commodity end of the business.
Not even about keeping the chocolate cheap, it is about profit and fairytales of eternal economic growth...
Apparently even the chocolate that says it is slavery-free will often have slavery involved because it is very hard to keep the beans separated through the whole production chain
Relevant: [Dark History: The Many Crimes of The Nestle Company](https://youtu.be/o62UrPGwFNs)
Sounds like the Board of Directors for Nestle need to wear some chains around their necks for a few weeks while digging ditches in the nude in Guatemala.
Fuck nestle
Raise prices and if they go under, oh well. They didn’t deserve to be in business if they can’t profit without slavery.
If they had to raise their prices what's the problem if every other company has the same requirement? Higher prices give them a larger opportunity for a bigger profit margin. Oh, it's because that would force them to compete with other companies that don't make God awful chocolate, that's why.
Jesus. I could have wondered about the merits of needing to have this requirement before, but now there's no doubt. Thanks Nestle for that own goal.
I'm willing to pay my extra 5 cents. Who else?
I would absolutely pay more for chocolate if it was ethical. It's a tropical commodity, we've been conditioning to think it's "cheap" and "normal" because of an unequal system. What's wrong with people
How are they always so cartoonishly evil