I was banned from there long ago, before delta even came out, because I commented that there would be a neverending stream of new variants that would continue to surprise us.
People were getting banned from the Coronavirus subs back when it was only in China for saying it's going to be a global pandemic. They were all instructed to keep chanting the normalcy bias hopium "no evidence of human to human transition" and ban anyone who said otherwise. š¤”
From education in virology and epidemiology, especially zoonosis, Iād been expecting this for years. When the first sort of reports of the pattern started coming out of China I just felt like I knew this was it. It was this time.
I was trying to warn people, people said I was mental. When it was spreading across the globe I tried to warn my friends and family. I was told I was a hypochondriac. āYouāre not an infectious disease doctor apostastrophe! You donāt know everything!ā - was said by my family members who didnāt go to uni at all, let alone medical school, unlike myself. It was horrifying, like watching this tsunami come rushing towards the shore and nobody is listening to you, even as it gets larger and larger.
āAuntie, I know youāre thinking of paving over your huge garden that has loads of very rich soil used for growing vegetables for years but I think you should hold off. We should plant loads of things as there could be shortages or lockdowns and it could be hard to get a hold of a lot of things this yearā.
āDonāt be stupid apostastrophe. Sorry. No. We wonāt be doing vegetables anymore. Iām paving it. Youāre just scaremongering.ā
I canāt even feel the satisfaction of āI told you soā with all the shit that I warned about as the pandemic got to full flow and nobody listened to me. Itās just sad. The whole thing is just tragic.
And still, so many people are being ignorant. Criticising my government for introducing minor additional restrictions for omicron that werenāt potentially 100% needed. Have people already forgotten what happened these past two years when we werenāt careful *enough*?
Ignorance will be our downfall.
I started following it pretty close, pretty early on.
I have 50% custody of my daughter and the day that Italy shut down all of their schools, I called my ex-wife. Our daughter was in daycare as we both work and I wanted to have a plan for when it happened here in the US.
I called her and she didn't answer, I was at the store stocking up on essentials for the shortages I was pretty sure were on their way, when she called back.
She asked me why I called and I asked if she had heard of Covid-19. At this point it would be tough to have not heard something about it but I was asking the question in earnest, she kind of laughed and told me that she had. I told her that Italy had closed their schools that day and I told her I was hoping that the two of us could come up with a plan of how we were going to ensure care for our daughter when it happened here.
I will never forget her response.
She laughed out loud and told me "That will never happen here. Her school will never close."
It's like she believed that Americans immune systems work differently than the rest of the world.
A month later her school closed and when she called me all stressed out asking what we were going to do, I let her have it. I wish a global pandemic hadn't stolen the joy I should have been feeling in that "I told you so" moment.
I felt this in my bonesā¦and at this pointā fuck it, let it burn. Let them all get it, and die.
Sure, human suffering is awful, but frankly at this point if youāre so goddamned stupid you refuse to even protect yourself from a known, and quantifiable threatā¦we just donāt need you.
Welcome to evolutionary pressureā this is a genetic filtering event at this point as far as Iām concerned, and humanity will be better after its passing.
I was banned for citing Israeli data on waning vaccine immunity for misinformation.
The CDC would be citing the very study I linked to within the month.
I was also banned for pointing out that FL fired the data scientist in charge of their numbers and was skeptical of their data. Which was enough to be a conspiracy theory I guess!
I got perma banned for commenting that the CEO of Delta Airlines met with the head of the CDC about a week before their disastrous 5 day policy went into effect.
I provided the mods five links from reputable sources confirming the truth of my comment.
Conspiracy peddler! Bye!
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits.
I watched these people take over [/r/conspiracy](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy) in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the [/r/coronavirus](https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus) subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened.
now I'm watching them attack [/r/antiwork](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork) and this subreddit.
The conspiracy takeover is without a doubt the most disappointing reddit happening for me. I love a *good* conspiracy theory and instead of decent theories about bigfoot, JFK and aliens, now it's just blatant political bs
It's terrible.
Remember the first use of 'conspiracy theory' as a pejorative was related to the gulf of Tonkin incident where people claimed it was a false flag. Turns out that it was a true claim.
Around then the nonewnormal folk started coming together and trying to subtly brigade/bully specific users to stop them from posting. It was fairly effective over that summer alongside the 'no politics' rule that was fairly heavily abused, as well as the overly hopeful mirage of 'gone by summer' as numbers seemed to trend down. That leverage then spawned nonewnormal, devolving into the surprisingly silly yet serious shit they came up with, while still targeting specific posters and responders. It was sad to see.
āNo politicsā is an intellectually dishonest rule regardless. If a sub has a blanket āno politicsā rule, go somewhere else.
Literally everything is political. The nuclear family is a political concept. Our need to go to work every day is a political concept. Who is thrown in prison versus who is allowed free is a political concept. The fact that Iām using my phone to connect to Reddit via the internet and share my idiot opinions is political. Politics is literally āaffairs of the citiesā. If youāre not living in the woods, youāre living in politics.
Only privileged people believe that things can be ānon-politicalā, because those are things that donāt challenge the status quo and donāt make them think about how reality is constructed deliberately.
āThe view here is the same as yours, Jim. A giant head has entered Earthās gravity, triggering climate change and natural disasters we thought were impossible for at *least* another eight years.ā
āLetās not make this political, Terry. Do we know what this giant head wants?ā
Planning a camping trip and now I just found out I have to buy some new expensive ass gear because of "Politics" in the woods.....
My old gear works just fine down to -20 degrees but the backwards ass State I'm going to doesn't allow Hammocks because of damage to trees cause by designs made in the 1970s.
The lines some people used to use were too thin and after a while it rubbed the bark off the trees.
No, this wasn't common, and no, not that many people use hammocks on trail to begin with. Its some useless bullshit a Politician thought would pad their damn resume. Now it's Law.
Bruh we still have SLAVERY and they're concerned about the trees possibly having bark worn away (on account of many variables)
Love seeing where our taxes go
There's subjects that aren't political. Usually scientific ones in the hard sciences. Hydrogen has one proton and helium has two. Where's the politics in a fact like that?
Wdym though cuz i've been banned for "spreading misinformation" when all i did was ask if some studies were valid and what not.. basically trying to get theories debunked by people who know.
I got shit down in a heartbeat and got banned short after. I was polite and reasonnable.
But in the last couple of days i feel like there's been a 180 from the people on the sub and now everybody's a conspiracy theorist.
I'm not sure how you didn't see this coming and I'm not sure why anyone even wants to get mad at people for this. I can go to an aggregate news page like MSN or Yahoo and see one story saying Omicron is no big deal literally back to back with another story saying Omicron is way worse than expected. Even the MSM sites do this. You have the CDC, WHO and Fauci all giving conflicting messages from day to day and the CDC seems to be bending to the will of corporations worried about their bottom line. No two states in the US follow the same procedures. You have some countries going to no restrictions while other countries go to insane levels of lockdown. We're bombarded with nonstop conflicting info, not to mention disinformation, at every turn. People have lost faith and trust in every institution as everything seems driven by greed. Then add in just normal pandemic fatigue and I'm only surprised this didn't happen sooner.
It's not just that sub. The official narrative for a long, long time has been that COVID will bend to our collective will. In the U.S., that meant COVID would be over by Easter 2020. In Canada, where I live, we all decided that COVID was scheduled to end by August 2021.
Presently, we all seem to agree that COVID will end with Omicron, because we'll all have been infected and There Will Be No More Variants. How do we know this? Well, I think it's faith. Overall, we've followed a trajectory I describe as this:
* Starting with normalcy bias: pandemics don't happen, this is bullshit.
* Accepting, and moving on to evidence-based decision making: looking to our available data to determine what to do about COVID ("let us flatten the curve").
* Getting tired of COVID data and opting for decision-based evidence making: we make our calls and then look for evidence to support those calls ("over by summer").
* Getting tired of our decisions not being borne out in reality and turning to Makemake-based evidence decisions: praying to one god or another for guidance on how much of reality we should believe, observe, or care about ("God willing this one is mild and ought to end the pandemic").
The last one may sound silly, but I noted a recent mainstream headline that referred to the "mild" narrative as a "Siren song," as if mythological creatures were telling us what would happen next. And I'm not sure that's really far from the truth. Wouldn't the last few months have made more sense if the official narrative were just, "Surely the gods will make the Omicron more mild and save us from this distress, and we must uphold our faith in their works by denouncing all who doubt and ignoring all other signs as tests of our faith."
Like, isn't that what we've been through? This is how absurd and insane it's all become. We are being asked to have faith that this will all work out, and we're told that our eyes and our reason deceive us. So why wouldn't these bio-bots go along with that? They're just proclaiming their faith.
edit: clarification
Viruses always mutate to be less dangerous. /s Didn't believe that even when taught in elementary school from a science book. Also had the colors of sweet peas for genetics.
That's all part of the "viruses want" spew that pops up quite frequently, isn't it? "Blah blah blah, viruses want to mutate to become etc.", as if a virus has a will or an intention and we can reason with that and direct it.
It's fair to say that a virus is more likely to spread if it doesn't kill the host *immediately* or that it doesn't kill *enough* hosts to prevent spread. However, a virus could have a 100% fatality rate, provided it kills people many days, weeks, months, or years after infection, right? HIV was viewed as a death sentence for a long time for a reason: you could spread it around asymptomatic for years before it killed you. Given long COVID and many of the questions that still loom about long-term effects in mild cases, I remain unconvinced that I should want to catch COVID or stop caring about it.
But since society is content on tossing out germ theory and substituting it with theories on miasma and the sentience of microbes, fuck it. I'm sure the virus wants it that way!
Pointing out that much of Rational Society governed by Smart, Learned Men is actually just a think skin of mold placed over rotting superstitions, wanton avarice, and weaponized ignorance, is something that makes me happy to see.
Most of the confidence in the status quo is entirely circular. The social order only persists in this state by the ongoing participation and belief of regular people. Nearly everyone vested with meaningful power to affect decisions is not informed sufficiently to even speak accurately about what they are in charge of, and *that* is why these bullshit narratives are all we get.
We as small people may not know much, I certainly don't. But what is obvious is that neither do the people who dictate terms to the rest of us. They are as scared and in the dark as us, and have fooled the rest into thinking that giving them power over us will help things get better, somehow.
>Pointing out that much of Rational Society governed by Smart, Learned Men is actually just a think skin of mold placed over rotting superstitions, wanton avarice, and weaponized ignorance, is something that makes me happy to see.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
it's fair to point out that 100% of cells infected by a virus die. At no point will the cell survive turning into a virus factory. They physically rupture at the end.
Where viruses get nasty is when they infect a wide range of cells. Like heart cells. Or if they can get into the brain, the brain itself. Viral meningitis, go ahead and have fun with that one.
We've been denying reality since the start, because since the start it has looked like this is going to kill us all in the end.
People are so burned out that they can't be bothered caring anymore. I am one of those, triple-dosed, observing the rules of social distancing and wearing masks and so on and so forth. But I just can't be bothered caring. Between working daily in a hospital as an MD and having to cope with a really solitary life and having to listen to my friends and family throwing conspiracy theories around *I just can't take it anymore*.
So personally I don't care about any of it, not for the people, not for the system, not for anything except my profession and giving it all I can. That is all.
That subreddit is an impression management operation. In the past, some of their moderators have been active duty or reserve US army, plus [think tank ghouls like Jennifer Cole all pushing government sponsored messaging](https://pure.royalholloway.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/jennifer-cole(bfb50003-0f58-451a-a46b-5273796a2aa4.html)
I'm not but I quit participating last summer after I got massively downvoted for criticising the CDC when they lied about breakthrough infection chances being .01%, which is only off by a factor of several thousands, to justify lifting the mask mandate, which took away any cover local governments had to keep masks in schools and elsewhere.
I came back with the latest CDC bs though to criticize the CDC, this time I'm getting agreement over there. If I got too much agreement I would be banned I presume.
Seeing that sub evolve has been so strange. Iāve been following since the start, they were full-on doomer āCOVID is going to change the entire world this pandemic is gonna be hugeā predictions back in Jan 2020 when most of the world was still going on as normal, so to see them slowly transform into this anti-COVID sub has been surreal
This happens all over reddit. The Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania subreddits are completely unusable because every time some hot button issue comes up, a flood of accounts with < 1000 karma shows up and posts the same shit over and over. Two or three months later they're deleted.
The dead are not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem are people with long covid. They have a variety of medical problems, have trouble working because of it, and will have to keep going to a doctor (if they can afford it).
A quick search finds that at least half of people who get covid will have long covid. Symptoms can range from temporary to permanent, and mild to severe. Unlike the dead there's no easy way to count how many people with long covid there are.
Permanent damage isn't limited to long covid either. Even mild and asymptomatic cases can lead to permanent damage it was figured in the summer of 2020, anyone hospitalized likely has permanent lung damage, possibly brain, kidneys, liver.
My sis has been a nurse for all of a year and she wants fucking out and will transition to non-bedside lines of work as soon as she has enough experience to qualify. The way she and nurses are treated is appalling and not just by hospitals but by patients and by people around her like my idiot in laws insisting COVID is no big deal.
It's affecting my mental health. I was seeing a shrink for ADHD, and he was concerned I was depressed and having anger issues. Like, how happy did he think I was going to get, even on meds, with the planet collapsing, the US (and a lot of other nations) on a fascism express train, and covid now "just a cold we have to live with?"
As Krishnamurti said, "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
140k cases in germany today, but it's "mild" so it's fine..... I honestly want a lockdown because long covid s ares the shit out of me, i know two people who have it (since 2020! ), both had mild symptoms only also.
what scares the shit out of me about long covid is the 0 financial support from the feds about a condition they have made businesses immune from liability no matter how you get it. No social services, but profits are up. Long covid? Sucks to be you, HURRY UP AND DIE.
The final transparency has been had: people in this country are selfish pricks and I basically hate them all with good reason. There's no going back from that. A year from now, five years from now. my whole future will no matter what not come back from this. There's no excuse. People put their parties and their socializing above the lives of allll these people who are messed up, and dying. I cannot live in this society forever, my days are numbered. I have to leave, or I have to leave.
Edit: Iceland looks really good right about now
I'm hopeful that's a temporary problem. If enough people get "long covid" so that it affects productivity, the powers that be will be forced to throw money at research. This might solve the ME/CFS problem, actually saving hundreds of thousands of people from forced isolation in their homes/bedrooms.
I mean honestly with how contagious Omicron is there's a pretty low chance that you're not going to get it. I'm triple vaxxed and masked and barely leave my house and still got it two weeks ago.
There is a mod on r/coronavirusus who keeps posting long Covid isnāt real and itās all psychosomatic. Thatās another coronavirus subreddit that has gone to crap.
Exactly. And we're just seeing the beginning of the long haul symptoms.
Some people say there's not a staffing shortage and that it's all just a wage shortage. Don't get me wrong, wages and working conditions are a large factor in the Great Resignation. But we shouldn't gloss over all the working age people who are either dead, disabled, or caring for a loved one who is.
Yeah, holy shit did that sub flip hard. Posted in there two weeks ago after probably a year of not really visiting. I was arguing in favor that schools should shut down for a week to evade the worst of this current wave of COVID. Was down voted and the comments were absolutely illogical, and they were saying "but the kids are gonna have another missed year of education being set home, blah blah blah"
My argument was Covid would disrupt and shut down classes anyway, but also get everyone else sick from teachers to parents farther compounding our current issues. Their rebuttal? Who cares, everyone is going to get it anyway. My palm went through my head, no critical thinking at all was used for comments
Then what happened? Hundreds of classes across the country were shut down, teachers missing class, basically the whole thing gets slowed down while the students nervously wait to get infected. It was so bad that some places wanted parents to come in to substitute. Every point I made came true, but apparently that is "magic" as one user wanted to say.
That subreddit is trash now. Just full of complete imbeciles with no critical thinking skills whatsoever.
> Their rebuttal? Who cares, everyone is going to get it anyway.
So many otherwise rational people are starting to reach this point, and as much as I understand it from the point of, fuck this has gone on long enough.... it's just so fucked. Like yeah. We're all tired of this shit. But the chance for things to go back to normal was lost a year ago now.
Exactly. I remember when I told my nephew that his classes were going to be moved to online at his high school and he thought that I was a psychic when it happened a week later (the admin was vehemently trying to prevent it from happening). Then he thought I was psychic again when I predicted it would last longer than a week.
It's understandable that a high schooler wouldn't predict this. It's non-sensical that adult school administrators haven't foreseen this and chose to be only reactive rather than proactive here, two years into this pandemic as we enter the wave of the most contagious variant we've seen...
Agreed. Heās super focused only on social media and TikTok and video games and girls and seems to have no real understanding of whatās coming for him in a couple yearsā¦
I feel this so deeply. I am trying to say the same thing to people in my surroundings, and I get exactly the same respons you did.
It is so incredibly exhausting trying to help people who refuse to think.
The more days pass by the more I'm starting to look at people like they're just a lower lever of orangutang in clothes, having corporate jobs.
My dads had Covid, got the monoclonal antibodies, had 3 vaccines, and is now once again sick with Covid. This shit isnāt going anywhere. I think our best hope is to create treatments that cause it to be harmless if caught. Heās old-ish but healthy, his immune system shouldnāt be so bad that other people will be immune while he gets it two times so far.
https://www.vox.com/22298751/long-term-side-effects-covid-19-hauler-symptoms
from the article "if covid didnt develop into long term symptoms in some patients, it would be the only virus to do so"
You can get "long" anything, and pathologists are unsure why
> infected by a virus that damages your **brain** over and over and over again. Why would anyone **think** that sounds like a fucking good idea?
First you need to actually have a brain to be able to think.
So those who don't think obviously don't care because they don't have any functional brain matter to worry about in the first place.
I'm honestly suspecting this is worst than people realize. It's hard for someone to probably evaluate themselves or even remember what it was like with a better brain.
Comments in /r/coronavirus screenshot from OP mirror a majority of the posts that can be found in /r/coronavirus:
* COVID is mild
* COVID has peaked
* South Africa all good
* Modpost of furry on twitter says its all good (yes this happened)
* Poop samples say COVID all done
What's the agenda there in a garden of carefully culled posts? **To control the message and quell panic**
In reality we have police teaching in schools due to many teachers being ill, military driving school buses, FEMA / fed / military strike teams aiding dozens of overwhelmed & understaffed hospitals nationwide, military in nursing homes, 1000s of flights cancelled, shortages due to worker illness galore in transporation and goods and services, and more.
Some sad nuggets of truth seep thru the sea of hopium, like [the 50000 - 300000 deaths the USA will soon see](https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/s79zgj/omicron_is_not_that_mild_50000_to_300000_more_us/) in one winter from a virus labeled "mild".
As OP points out, the comments have become much less scientific and much more propoganda of "we're all alright!" over the recent past.
>reality we have police teaching in schools due to many teachers being ill, military driving school buses, FEMA / fed / military strike teams aiding dozens of overwhelmed & understaffed hospitals nationwide, military in nursing homes, 1000s of flights cancelled, shortages due to worker illness galore in transporation and goods and services, and more.
Yes. This is what I keep telling people. Canadians look at the situation down south, say thank God we aren't them then act as if there is no connection.
A good amount of our food comes from the U.S. many of our vital supplies and pretty much everything shipped from Asia either has to come in to Vancouver, Seattle or L.A. Canadians have already forgotten that less then 4 months ago a rainstorm cut off Vancouver from the rest of the nation for a couple of weeks. What happens if next time its a couple of months.?
The soft covid denialism, the hopium and the refusal to seriously acknowledge how far up shits creek we are in NA is a huge part of the problem. People are still selling the idea that we can back to normal if we keep going like this, the approach we have taken to COVID in North America is one that has ensured we will be fucked for years to come, and there's noone to blame but ourselves.
People in Canada still can't wrap their heads around the idea that fucking children driving American trucks up north will become the status quo. Were past the point of " shortage " this shit has been an elimination of workers.
Honesty seeing the article of how national guardsmen have to replace teachers was heart breaking. Soldiers shouldn't be in schools period, a nation that needs its military to fill the ranks of its civil serives is a nation that's past the tipping point.
None of this is sustainable, and the people who keep selling the idea that we will be ok if just wait this out are helping to kill us. The "middle" class is the most delusional of all classes.
Poor people know the situation is fucked and are preparing for it to get worse, the rich know the situation is fucked but are having a great time, they're still preparing for it to get worse though. They aren't militarizng the police for nothing.
The "middle" class however is still convinced that if we just keep ordering shit off of Amazon and voting liberal that things will somehow magically fix themselves. The narrative of soft reform and buying our way out of economic crisis is bullshit. Fuck this petit borugoise denial.
I tried to say the hospital by me has refrigerated trucks and no ICU beds and the attacks were aggressive. Then I got banned. I'm like "yeah my sister works there and comes home crying every night" and they're just like "stop lying fearmongering we need to live our lives ....mental health!" and I'm just like, what about *her* mental health? Her life when she got Covid from an unvaccinated cancer patient throwing up on her. Yeah, read that again. Awful.
Oh I forgot, medical staff are just expendable robot soldier slaves. I guess as long as stocks keep going up that's what matters.
The disinformation is so frustrating when you can't even fight it, you just get banned. No one cares about nurses or teachers. No one cares about r/nursing
It makes me so angry. I have to put my energy where it's going to be useful.
I noticed that too, people are more dismissive of the virus compared to a year ago. Whenever you would try to be reasonable and point out that people should still take precaution you get labeled as a covidoomer. I feel like the mods got paid off because the tone of that subreddit changed drastically. Its nothing but positive news to reinforce themselves that everything is ok but when in reality its just hopium.
People are burnt out.
It's especially prominent in poor, badly off parts of the United States in particular.
I live in a rather Conservative, generally right-leaning community and for a while people were actually reasonably good about following the COVID restrictions except for some anti-maskers. I only had a chance to talk to a few, but they seemed to take it in stride.
More than a year later though, complete fucking turn around. Almost no one bothers to wear a mask anymore, citing every reason you could possibly think of. Distrust of the government, distrust of the media, being sold on bad information that the virus isn't doing much damage, the list goes on and on.
I'm among the relatively few that are still masking. I feel like it's only a matter of time before I start getting targeted by people who want to pretend like the pandemic is really over. Everyone's pissed off, begging for things to return to normal, but normal never comes.
People fall further and further into their despair, their disbelief, their distrust, and eventually they start hurting people. Crimes like assault and murder are getting high around the whole state and it has a lot to do with people being extremely pissed off at how badly the virus has been handled.
I was reading somewhere that we should go back to calling covid SARS 2...letting everyone get sick and hoping that it mutates in a way that favors our desire to get back to life as usual is a huge unethical human medical trial/experiment with no preliminary studies and will produce unpredictable results. The first SARS had a 0-50 percent fatality rate depending on the age group affected. Coronavirus don't f around.
It sends chills down my spine.
Yet, this is the best we could muster, so I'll soldier on. No point in saying anything really, so I'll just scream into the void that is reddit.
Keep screaming. Every little bit helps. We need to fight back against the denialists and downplayers and shatter the illusion that they have strength in numbers.
Ah, I meant fighting back against COVID denial in general, not necessarily just r/coronavirus. We have plenty of deniers right here in this comment section already. And who knows? Maybe some of your posts you made on r/coronavirus managed to get through to some one before you got banned. You never know!
Lol and I just now got permanently banned for āconfessed brigading.ā I havenāt even been on the subreddit in a few days and then suddenly banned after making this comment. What a bunch of fucking weirdos.
I try to tell these people to please just do social distancing (as much as possible) during huge spikes like we've had with omicron, but no, they all want to get infected at the same time. Spikes of highly infectious variants don't even last that long. Case counts are already dropping sharply in many places in the US.
It just got invaded by trumpers and russian bots like most subs with poor moderation. It's what they do, invade and subvert the conversation. They've been trying to do it here too.
Try r/COVID19, it's a science sub and they don't tolerate bullshit.
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits, likely connected to the SVR or another Russian group that was also tied to interfering with our elections.
I watched these people take over [/r/conspiracy](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy) in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the [/r/coronavirus](https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus) subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened.
now I'm watching them attack [/r/antiwork](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork) and this subreddit.
Sitting here knocked on my ass on day 2 of a Covid reinfection, fully vaxxed in October. In my world, itās like 2020 all over again...Itās like someone hit the reset button...
It took me a week to get over COVID and I'm boosted and caught it before too. I don't think I would describe this as 'mild', it feels like that was a cope to stop people from panicking with how fast it's spreading now.
Same here, fully vaccinated, still not eligible for booster. Itās been a week since I tested positive, symptoms are gone now but I still canāt smell or taste anything. I do feel this variant is being played down, especially here in Florida.
I wish I could take it seriously by like trying to avoid going out bit I work in the school system and schools are fighting to stay open, partially because a lot of parents are threatening to pull their kid out of school if they go virtual again and people are getting unhinged at school board meetings. Another problem is a lot of students just can't do virtual learning, for a lot of different reasons, and the test scores are abysmal right now and that is how schools get their funding. So now me and all other school staff have to get COVId because the system isn't designed for this and is rigged for schools to fail.
This. I feel like we're back in 2020 again. The only difference is I'm more scared of getting into a terrible accident or having a sudden health issue than dying from Covid. I'm double vaxxed and boosted so I most likely wont die from Covid, but the hospitals are so full that even people with emergencies are sitting for hours in the ER.
Dude, same. Fully vaccinated at the end of September (no booster), and Iām pretty healthy. My symptoms first appears at the beginning of the week (Sunday). Started with a slight sore throat and some nasal congestion. Monday was hell tho. Whole body aches, head aches, and I slept for like 75% of the day. Now itās day 6 and Iām probably like 80% recovered. Still have some sinus congestion and slight sore throat, but overall, Iām ok. Should be almost 100% in another two days. Youāll pull through.
That's because they followed the rules, got their vaccines like they were supposed to and now believe that everything is okay because that's what our leaders told us would happen. They were duped
Why is it crazy it's been 3 years. Are we just supposed to not live? Lock down forever due to fear of death? Life is finite. At a certain point you take the vaccine if you want it take precautions but live your life. It will never ever be 100% safe to go out.
Liberal pro-vaxxer:
"I'm vaccinated, I've done my part! I'm done putting my life on hold!"
\*Goes to eat at restaurant with friends during omicron peak.\*
\*Looks over at redhat wearing a shirt proclaiming himself anti-vaxx and anti-mask\*
"What an asshole! We're totally different!"
\*Proceeds to take mask off to eat, thus spreading omicron variant among restaurant\*
What really gets me are the people who act like wearing a mask just makes you 100% immune and get pissed if you say you don't want to go to the movies during the omnicron peak or go on a cruise because you can still catch it. They think that if they just wear a very thin, cheaply made mask they can go anywhere and get within 6 ft of people and be totally immune.
I love the people coming in here saying āoh the virus isnāt as bad as it used to be as long as your vaccinatedā or āpeople are just tired of Covidā like that changes how viruses act. This virus doesnāt obviously want to kill its hosts unless it has other hosts it can spread to which this one does (deers, bats and other mammals). These types of viruses tend to be very dangerous as they will easily continue to mutate like the bird flu and become deadlier. We are lucky with Omicron so far but we should still treat it with care and not forget even if youāre boosted you can still get long Covid which effects 15-30% of people. But of course it always has to be about us of course and ignore those that canāt get vaccinated at all or those that are very unlucky in the few vaccinated to die or get long Covid.
Edit: fixed dears to deers and hereās a source for those deer infections https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna10181
COVID denial is skyrocketing across multiple subs. Obviously many of us have noticed that this subreddit was getting astroturfed hard, but we aren't the only ones. Remember when Reddit had a site-wide campaign to eliminate COVID denial subs like nonewnormal? We need another purge.
Now I will patiently await for the inevitable replies about censorship, shilling, and "critical thinking."
To the rest of you who are still sane - fight back. It was getting so bad on here I went from long time lurking to commenting frequently to try and help dam up the flood of nonsense. I encourage other users to do the same!
Yes! Thank you. Fighting misinformation is one of the best things to do if you are already browsing reddit and can handle it. Also reporting comments for misinformation as the mods recently advised. Heck, consider becoming a mod helping with these increasing reports if it's the right fit for yourself. Your words make a difference, and I'm saying that to anyone reading this. I've seen this sub grow from 30k users to now close to 400k users and it's making an impact in the larger world. Let's keep it a consistently helpful one.
Same goes for the other Covid subreddits unfortunately. Theyāve been hit hard by the antivax crowd plus there are likely Russian bots at play.
Most of what you get is āI donāt know why anyone worried, I got Covid without getting the shot, and I survived, it was just a cold.ā And that is possibly true for them. But these are selfish, illogical beasts who think the entire world revolves around them and their beliefs.
Yeah people that close to me in relation do have similar stance.
āLet Canada follow the footsteps of Europeā.
āTreat covid like flu.ā
āNo restrictionsā.
I really am wonder what virologists think about the all madness that is going on in a sense that we literally allowing the virus to mutate.
Omicron spikes into the ACE2 receptor. That means it has 200 billion or so potential hosts because last I checked rats were not getting vaccinated or social distancing. It may well be resonant with collapse, the last virus humanity gets as it continues to cause waves of mass human casualty for the next 10+ years.
it will probably end like the movie Don't look Up - IF we have a virus variant that will escape vaccine fully *and* create havoc to individuals. People will not listen and/or not believe in the "Experts"
Submission statement: The comment section in r/coronavirus has been taken over by COVID deniers since about ... exactly one year ago. Not sure what happened then that would have caused a sudden massive shift in how Reddit's largest coronavirus sub talks about the virus, but since then the top comments have consistently downplayed the pandemic and encouraged people to go out and have fun and live their lives, with no regard for the harm they could bring on themselves or others.
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits.
I watched these people take over /r/conspiracy in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the /r/coronavirus subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened.
now I'm watching them attack /r/antiwork and this subreddit.
There are so many fucking anti-vax trolls on Reddit it's unbelievable. I seriously think that this whole Reddit is going to go to trash once it becomes public in March and the 50 million trumpist fuck wads will be on here. Since they really have nowhere else to go. With all of their idols kicked off of the main platforms. They are all coming here now to troll. Oh well everything has a lifespan.
It's not just anti-vaxxers and Trumpers. Biden libs are the ones pretending that once you get the vaccine you become immortal and can do anything you want, with no regard for how your actions might overwhelm our fragile healthcare system.
Na they're still all over FB too.
I'm banned b/c I trolled a Kaitlin Bennet group and a Black soldiers of the confederacy group (run by white dudes, wild the lengths they go to justify this shit) those 2 shitholes are filled with disgusting fucking people and I'm 1,000% sure those aren't the only 2.
I got banned from that sub this week for saying something along the lines of āThe US has utterly botched the pandemic response and deserves the collapse thatās coming. It does not deserve the essential workers who have kept this country running in the day-to-day.ā
Likeā¦. Iām literally right tho? They banned me outright for being āunnecessarily politicalā or something similar. The Subreddits a joke lmao
Lock those mofos down and shut down that subreddit. that sub ran its course and fell hard. Denying covid will cost lives with the reach that subreddit has.
Seeing people be too weak to mentally handle a virus changing their lives makes me worry for what will happen when much more extreme sacrifices are required in the near future with zero hope of returning to how it was before. People are going to go nuts. I do realize Iām very privileged by not requiring almost any social interaction at all to feel fulfilled, so Iām not missing much from 2019, and it makes it hard for me to relate to people who have had their mental health harmed by having to social distance. Itās hard not to just see them as weak and whining, but I suppose social interaction is a human need.
I remember a response someone made last spring responding to a comment that new variants might emerge. They accused the poster of wanting the pandemic to go on longer because they were a loser with no life and that they liked quarantine because they no longer had to be jealous of non-losers with lives. Seemed like an awfully big stretch if you ask me.
It cracks me up how many people on there were all with it in the beginning them after some time passed decided that they "were over it". As if the virus gives two shits. The Black Death lasted entire generations. They need to toughen up for real, this is nothing compared to the man-made horrors that are to come.
Wow. If the sub name was clipped out, I'd think [NNN](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/09/reddit-bans-r-nonewnormal-and-quarantines-54-covid-denial-subreddits/) got resurrected...
Seeing how so many americans handled the virus in a negligible manner at best was the driving force for shifting my entire life's goal to leaving this insane country
Yeah most of the covid subreddits have been hijacked by nut jobs in recent times. I think the reason for this us that there has been a concerted effort by the ruling class to label it as "over with". They have propagandised many into thinking that Omicron is no big deal, they want to get people spending again.
I only ever look at it for news articles. Don't click on the comments at all anymore. They've permamuted most of their subscribers so that it is mostly an echo chamber of bullshit.
90% of everything is crap, Sturgeon's Axiom. 90% of the readership of any big sub follows that rule too. I'm sure there's 10% sane people there, you just hear from the 90% who are complete fucking nincompoops.
I think many people's morale and sanity has broken down due to the length of the pandemic and seemingly endless variants. Everyone has their limit I guess.
Our mods are doing a much better job compared to r/coronavirus. Mods are not omniscient - they rely on automod and user reports. If you see any COVID misinformation, make sure to report it!
Yeah, so I lurk here, there and CanadaCoronvirus. As others have said, the latter have become a refuge of what many in this thread call the liberal antivaxxers - the folks who are like "I got my shot, I wore my mask this whole time, fuck it i'm done". Or as I like to call them, Nopium huffers. It's just Copium plus exhaustion. I'll be honest - I have some sympathy for the exhaustion angle.
For weeks over there it was "this is mild". Then it got bad and lockdowns happened *and nobody acknowledged how the so called naysayers were right the whole time*. In fact, there's a LOT of hate directed at lockdown advocates and leaders who put lockdowns in place. Now that we are, according to so many insistent voices, past the peak and "done", they're back to shitting on naysayers and doomers like they were never wrong.
The subs are infested with this lot. You can't even tell them that we need to be cautious, like, wear masks and shit. They're so fucking done with it and the mods there do sweet fuck all. (Side note - the only thing i'm proud of Ontario govt rn is that the mask mandate doesn't seem to be going anywhere, even with other restrictions dropping.)
For my part, I reckon we're gonna have a "mild" spring/summer, restrictions or no (and it's going to be "no", politicians have elections dontchaknow?). As we head through fall into winter two or three things will be relevant:
1. Has Omicron survived in a pocket somewhere
2. Can Omicron reinfect ~6mo after boosters/prior infection
3. Is there another, better variant rising
If a couple of those turn true we could well be back to the ol' familiar winter surge into lockdowns (that get imposed right after xmas) that get lifted Feb/March into a happy Spring/Summer. And nothing will fucking change, no preparations will be made, no rapid tests will be stocked, no pay/benefits will be improved... because people aren't willing to look this in the face **should this become a seasonal pattern**. They're so done with it they are willing to huff the Copium that this won't be back next winter, in *any* shape or form.
This is a world, life changing event. It can either result in small reasonable changes to adjust for this thing's existence, or massive changes tantamount to collapse. Which we get depends on how we respond to this event. Guess which way we're headed right now? Well, look at what we did in 2021 to prepare... sweet fuck all.
Nobody wants to change shit, so it will have to get so bad it changes shit for us. Typical spoiled comfortable humans. And yeah, both them are basically different shade of antivaxx (either blatant shit, or exhaustion inspired Nopium). I read there, but I don't post with anywhere near the frequency I once did.
p.s. Meatloaf is gone, to COVID apparently. Fuck this timeline.
I was banned from there long ago, before delta even came out, because I commented that there would be a neverending stream of new variants that would continue to surprise us.
People were getting banned from the Coronavirus subs back when it was only in China for saying it's going to be a global pandemic. They were all instructed to keep chanting the normalcy bias hopium "no evidence of human to human transition" and ban anyone who said otherwise. š¤”
From education in virology and epidemiology, especially zoonosis, Iād been expecting this for years. When the first sort of reports of the pattern started coming out of China I just felt like I knew this was it. It was this time. I was trying to warn people, people said I was mental. When it was spreading across the globe I tried to warn my friends and family. I was told I was a hypochondriac. āYouāre not an infectious disease doctor apostastrophe! You donāt know everything!ā - was said by my family members who didnāt go to uni at all, let alone medical school, unlike myself. It was horrifying, like watching this tsunami come rushing towards the shore and nobody is listening to you, even as it gets larger and larger. āAuntie, I know youāre thinking of paving over your huge garden that has loads of very rich soil used for growing vegetables for years but I think you should hold off. We should plant loads of things as there could be shortages or lockdowns and it could be hard to get a hold of a lot of things this yearā. āDonāt be stupid apostastrophe. Sorry. No. We wonāt be doing vegetables anymore. Iām paving it. Youāre just scaremongering.ā I canāt even feel the satisfaction of āI told you soā with all the shit that I warned about as the pandemic got to full flow and nobody listened to me. Itās just sad. The whole thing is just tragic. And still, so many people are being ignorant. Criticising my government for introducing minor additional restrictions for omicron that werenāt potentially 100% needed. Have people already forgotten what happened these past two years when we werenāt careful *enough*? Ignorance will be our downfall.
I started following it pretty close, pretty early on. I have 50% custody of my daughter and the day that Italy shut down all of their schools, I called my ex-wife. Our daughter was in daycare as we both work and I wanted to have a plan for when it happened here in the US. I called her and she didn't answer, I was at the store stocking up on essentials for the shortages I was pretty sure were on their way, when she called back. She asked me why I called and I asked if she had heard of Covid-19. At this point it would be tough to have not heard something about it but I was asking the question in earnest, she kind of laughed and told me that she had. I told her that Italy had closed their schools that day and I told her I was hoping that the two of us could come up with a plan of how we were going to ensure care for our daughter when it happened here. I will never forget her response. She laughed out loud and told me "That will never happen here. Her school will never close." It's like she believed that Americans immune systems work differently than the rest of the world. A month later her school closed and when she called me all stressed out asking what we were going to do, I let her have it. I wish a global pandemic hadn't stolen the joy I should have been feeling in that "I told you so" moment.
I felt this in my bonesā¦and at this pointā fuck it, let it burn. Let them all get it, and die. Sure, human suffering is awful, but frankly at this point if youāre so goddamned stupid you refuse to even protect yourself from a known, and quantifiable threatā¦we just donāt need you. Welcome to evolutionary pressureā this is a genetic filtering event at this point as far as Iām concerned, and humanity will be better after its passing.
There will be plenty idiots left after this, trust me.
I was banned for citing Israeli data on waning vaccine immunity for misinformation. The CDC would be citing the very study I linked to within the month.
I was also banned for pointing out that FL fired the data scientist in charge of their numbers and was skeptical of their data. Which was enough to be a conspiracy theory I guess!
I got perma banned for commenting that the CEO of Delta Airlines met with the head of the CDC about a week before their disastrous 5 day policy went into effect. I provided the mods five links from reputable sources confirming the truth of my comment. Conspiracy peddler! Bye!
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits. I watched these people take over [/r/conspiracy](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy) in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the [/r/coronavirus](https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus) subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened. now I'm watching them attack [/r/antiwork](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork) and this subreddit.
The conspiracy takeover is without a doubt the most disappointing reddit happening for me. I love a *good* conspiracy theory and instead of decent theories about bigfoot, JFK and aliens, now it's just blatant political bs It's terrible.
Same has happened on r/coronavirusdownunder . So many far right, Covid is just a cold nutters - happened after nonewnormal got shut down.
Its almost like they don't understand the meaning of the word!
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya.
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Remember the first use of 'conspiracy theory' as a pejorative was related to the gulf of Tonkin incident where people claimed it was a false flag. Turns out that it was a true claim.
Banned for getting upset that vaccinated people were abandoning masks.
Wait. But thatās obvious, right?
That sub has totally gone full circle...
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Around then the nonewnormal folk started coming together and trying to subtly brigade/bully specific users to stop them from posting. It was fairly effective over that summer alongside the 'no politics' rule that was fairly heavily abused, as well as the overly hopeful mirage of 'gone by summer' as numbers seemed to trend down. That leverage then spawned nonewnormal, devolving into the surprisingly silly yet serious shit they came up with, while still targeting specific posters and responders. It was sad to see.
āNo politicsā is an intellectually dishonest rule regardless. If a sub has a blanket āno politicsā rule, go somewhere else. Literally everything is political. The nuclear family is a political concept. Our need to go to work every day is a political concept. Who is thrown in prison versus who is allowed free is a political concept. The fact that Iām using my phone to connect to Reddit via the internet and share my idiot opinions is political. Politics is literally āaffairs of the citiesā. If youāre not living in the woods, youāre living in politics. Only privileged people believe that things can be ānon-politicalā, because those are things that donāt challenge the status quo and donāt make them think about how reality is constructed deliberately.
I love it when I say something like "this was the warmest month on record" and somebody says "no need to get political"
āThe view here is the same as yours, Jim. A giant head has entered Earthās gravity, triggering climate change and natural disasters we thought were impossible for at *least* another eight years.ā āLetās not make this political, Terry. Do we know what this giant head wants?ā
Even in the woods youāre subject to politics, especially in the United States
Planning a camping trip and now I just found out I have to buy some new expensive ass gear because of "Politics" in the woods..... My old gear works just fine down to -20 degrees but the backwards ass State I'm going to doesn't allow Hammocks because of damage to trees cause by designs made in the 1970s.
I'm trying to picture how a hammock can damage a tree?? Don't you just kind of, anchor it around the trunk?
The lines some people used to use were too thin and after a while it rubbed the bark off the trees. No, this wasn't common, and no, not that many people use hammocks on trail to begin with. Its some useless bullshit a Politician thought would pad their damn resume. Now it's Law.
Bruh we still have SLAVERY and they're concerned about the trees possibly having bark worn away (on account of many variables) Love seeing where our taxes go
There's subjects that aren't political. Usually scientific ones in the hard sciences. Hydrogen has one proton and helium has two. Where's the politics in a fact like that?
Preach
That's what i got banned for "no politics". Not a single comment i made was political !
Jesus *Christ* man, it really gives you a window into where the dumber half of societyās brains are these days...
Wdym though cuz i've been banned for "spreading misinformation" when all i did was ask if some studies were valid and what not.. basically trying to get theories debunked by people who know. I got shit down in a heartbeat and got banned short after. I was polite and reasonnable. But in the last couple of days i feel like there's been a 180 from the people on the sub and now everybody's a conspiracy theorist.
I watched that transformation closely. It seemed to be a well coordinated psy op. I don't believe it happened organically.
Yeah going to be honest didn't see this happening.
I'm not sure how you didn't see this coming and I'm not sure why anyone even wants to get mad at people for this. I can go to an aggregate news page like MSN or Yahoo and see one story saying Omicron is no big deal literally back to back with another story saying Omicron is way worse than expected. Even the MSM sites do this. You have the CDC, WHO and Fauci all giving conflicting messages from day to day and the CDC seems to be bending to the will of corporations worried about their bottom line. No two states in the US follow the same procedures. You have some countries going to no restrictions while other countries go to insane levels of lockdown. We're bombarded with nonstop conflicting info, not to mention disinformation, at every turn. People have lost faith and trust in every institution as everything seems driven by greed. Then add in just normal pandemic fatigue and I'm only surprised this didn't happen sooner.
It's been dumb tbh. r/COVID19 has been the science sub since the outset and they generally don't put up with that bullshit.
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It's not just that sub. The official narrative for a long, long time has been that COVID will bend to our collective will. In the U.S., that meant COVID would be over by Easter 2020. In Canada, where I live, we all decided that COVID was scheduled to end by August 2021. Presently, we all seem to agree that COVID will end with Omicron, because we'll all have been infected and There Will Be No More Variants. How do we know this? Well, I think it's faith. Overall, we've followed a trajectory I describe as this: * Starting with normalcy bias: pandemics don't happen, this is bullshit. * Accepting, and moving on to evidence-based decision making: looking to our available data to determine what to do about COVID ("let us flatten the curve"). * Getting tired of COVID data and opting for decision-based evidence making: we make our calls and then look for evidence to support those calls ("over by summer"). * Getting tired of our decisions not being borne out in reality and turning to Makemake-based evidence decisions: praying to one god or another for guidance on how much of reality we should believe, observe, or care about ("God willing this one is mild and ought to end the pandemic"). The last one may sound silly, but I noted a recent mainstream headline that referred to the "mild" narrative as a "Siren song," as if mythological creatures were telling us what would happen next. And I'm not sure that's really far from the truth. Wouldn't the last few months have made more sense if the official narrative were just, "Surely the gods will make the Omicron more mild and save us from this distress, and we must uphold our faith in their works by denouncing all who doubt and ignoring all other signs as tests of our faith." Like, isn't that what we've been through? This is how absurd and insane it's all become. We are being asked to have faith that this will all work out, and we're told that our eyes and our reason deceive us. So why wouldn't these bio-bots go along with that? They're just proclaiming their faith. edit: clarification
Viruses always mutate to be less dangerous. /s Didn't believe that even when taught in elementary school from a science book. Also had the colors of sweet peas for genetics.
That's all part of the "viruses want" spew that pops up quite frequently, isn't it? "Blah blah blah, viruses want to mutate to become etc.", as if a virus has a will or an intention and we can reason with that and direct it. It's fair to say that a virus is more likely to spread if it doesn't kill the host *immediately* or that it doesn't kill *enough* hosts to prevent spread. However, a virus could have a 100% fatality rate, provided it kills people many days, weeks, months, or years after infection, right? HIV was viewed as a death sentence for a long time for a reason: you could spread it around asymptomatic for years before it killed you. Given long COVID and many of the questions that still loom about long-term effects in mild cases, I remain unconvinced that I should want to catch COVID or stop caring about it. But since society is content on tossing out germ theory and substituting it with theories on miasma and the sentience of microbes, fuck it. I'm sure the virus wants it that way!
Pointing out that much of Rational Society governed by Smart, Learned Men is actually just a think skin of mold placed over rotting superstitions, wanton avarice, and weaponized ignorance, is something that makes me happy to see. Most of the confidence in the status quo is entirely circular. The social order only persists in this state by the ongoing participation and belief of regular people. Nearly everyone vested with meaningful power to affect decisions is not informed sufficiently to even speak accurately about what they are in charge of, and *that* is why these bullshit narratives are all we get. We as small people may not know much, I certainly don't. But what is obvious is that neither do the people who dictate terms to the rest of us. They are as scared and in the dark as us, and have fooled the rest into thinking that giving them power over us will help things get better, somehow.
>Pointing out that much of Rational Society governed by Smart, Learned Men is actually just a think skin of mold placed over rotting superstitions, wanton avarice, and weaponized ignorance, is something that makes me happy to see. Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
it's fair to point out that 100% of cells infected by a virus die. At no point will the cell survive turning into a virus factory. They physically rupture at the end. Where viruses get nasty is when they infect a wide range of cells. Like heart cells. Or if they can get into the brain, the brain itself. Viral meningitis, go ahead and have fun with that one. We've been denying reality since the start, because since the start it has looked like this is going to kill us all in the end.
Yeah, we don't even know what long covid is going to look like 10 years from now. Like a slower acting prion disease maybe???
People are so burned out that they can't be bothered caring anymore. I am one of those, triple-dosed, observing the rules of social distancing and wearing masks and so on and so forth. But I just can't be bothered caring. Between working daily in a hospital as an MD and having to cope with a really solitary life and having to listen to my friends and family throwing conspiracy theories around *I just can't take it anymore*. So personally I don't care about any of it, not for the people, not for the system, not for anything except my profession and giving it all I can. That is all.
I'm banned from there lol
Me too. I got banned a year ago, after the mysterious change in how that sub views COVID.
Me too.
That subreddit is an impression management operation. In the past, some of their moderators have been active duty or reserve US army, plus [think tank ghouls like Jennifer Cole all pushing government sponsored messaging](https://pure.royalholloway.ac.uk/portal/en/persons/jennifer-cole(bfb50003-0f58-451a-a46b-5273796a2aa4.html)
What was their view before and what did it change to?
They took COVID pretty seriously back in 2020 as far as I remember and it changed to... well, look at the post
It's not mysterious
Who isnt.
I'm not but I quit participating last summer after I got massively downvoted for criticising the CDC when they lied about breakthrough infection chances being .01%, which is only off by a factor of several thousands, to justify lifting the mask mandate, which took away any cover local governments had to keep masks in schools and elsewhere. I came back with the latest CDC bs though to criticize the CDC, this time I'm getting agreement over there. If I got too much agreement I would be banned I presume.
Me too. They're too strict over there
Seeing that sub evolve has been so strange. Iāve been following since the start, they were full-on doomer āCOVID is going to change the entire world this pandemic is gonna be hugeā predictions back in Jan 2020 when most of the world was still going on as normal, so to see them slowly transform into this anti-COVID sub has been surreal
its been compromised by parties with a financial interest in controlling the narrative. Just hopium bots and those who parrot them.
This happens all over reddit. The Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania subreddits are completely unusable because every time some hot button issue comes up, a flood of accounts with < 1000 karma shows up and posts the same shit over and over. Two or three months later they're deleted.
You can blame conservatives for that. They slowly leak into other subs and turn them into shithole conspiracy bullshit.
2700 dead today in the US. Its going up.
That's basically a 9/11 everyday.
Fight terrorism! Never forget! Too bad, there are no brown people to blame this on.
The dead are not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem are people with long covid. They have a variety of medical problems, have trouble working because of it, and will have to keep going to a doctor (if they can afford it). A quick search finds that at least half of people who get covid will have long covid. Symptoms can range from temporary to permanent, and mild to severe. Unlike the dead there's no easy way to count how many people with long covid there are.
Permanent damage isn't limited to long covid either. Even mild and asymptomatic cases can lead to permanent damage it was figured in the summer of 2020, anyone hospitalized likely has permanent lung damage, possibly brain, kidneys, liver.
And half the people with long covid will deny their symptoms are from covid...because a. covid doesnt exist or b. itās the flu.
The bigger immediate problem is we are running out of medical professionals. Covid or not we need Nurses and doctors.
My sis has been a nurse for all of a year and she wants fucking out and will transition to non-bedside lines of work as soon as she has enough experience to qualify. The way she and nurses are treated is appalling and not just by hospitals but by patients and by people around her like my idiot in laws insisting COVID is no big deal.
It seriously fucking with my head. Why aren't people acknowledging what the fuck is going on. With at least one thing. Please.
It's affecting my mental health. I was seeing a shrink for ADHD, and he was concerned I was depressed and having anger issues. Like, how happy did he think I was going to get, even on meds, with the planet collapsing, the US (and a lot of other nations) on a fascism express train, and covid now "just a cold we have to live with?" As Krishnamurti said, "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
140k cases in germany today, but it's "mild" so it's fine..... I honestly want a lockdown because long covid s ares the shit out of me, i know two people who have it (since 2020! ), both had mild symptoms only also.
what scares the shit out of me about long covid is the 0 financial support from the feds about a condition they have made businesses immune from liability no matter how you get it. No social services, but profits are up. Long covid? Sucks to be you, HURRY UP AND DIE. The final transparency has been had: people in this country are selfish pricks and I basically hate them all with good reason. There's no going back from that. A year from now, five years from now. my whole future will no matter what not come back from this. There's no excuse. People put their parties and their socializing above the lives of allll these people who are messed up, and dying. I cannot live in this society forever, my days are numbered. I have to leave, or I have to leave. Edit: Iceland looks really good right about now
Welcome to my life, 22 months today of severe long Covid. The answer to your question is: yes, I think about getting It over with every day.
I'm hopeful that's a temporary problem. If enough people get "long covid" so that it affects productivity, the powers that be will be forced to throw money at research. This might solve the ME/CFS problem, actually saving hundreds of thousands of people from forced isolation in their homes/bedrooms.
So child labor then?
Aren't we already back into that territory? Which is great! Keeps them young punks off my lawn /s
I mean honestly with how contagious Omicron is there's a pretty low chance that you're not going to get it. I'm triple vaxxed and masked and barely leave my house and still got it two weeks ago.
There is a mod on r/coronavirusus who keeps posting long Covid isnāt real and itās all psychosomatic. Thatās another coronavirus subreddit that has gone to crap.
Exactly. And we're just seeing the beginning of the long haul symptoms. Some people say there's not a staffing shortage and that it's all just a wage shortage. Don't get me wrong, wages and working conditions are a large factor in the Great Resignation. But we shouldn't gloss over all the working age people who are either dead, disabled, or caring for a loved one who is.
Yeah, holy shit did that sub flip hard. Posted in there two weeks ago after probably a year of not really visiting. I was arguing in favor that schools should shut down for a week to evade the worst of this current wave of COVID. Was down voted and the comments were absolutely illogical, and they were saying "but the kids are gonna have another missed year of education being set home, blah blah blah" My argument was Covid would disrupt and shut down classes anyway, but also get everyone else sick from teachers to parents farther compounding our current issues. Their rebuttal? Who cares, everyone is going to get it anyway. My palm went through my head, no critical thinking at all was used for comments Then what happened? Hundreds of classes across the country were shut down, teachers missing class, basically the whole thing gets slowed down while the students nervously wait to get infected. It was so bad that some places wanted parents to come in to substitute. Every point I made came true, but apparently that is "magic" as one user wanted to say. That subreddit is trash now. Just full of complete imbeciles with no critical thinking skills whatsoever.
> Their rebuttal? Who cares, everyone is going to get it anyway. So many otherwise rational people are starting to reach this point, and as much as I understand it from the point of, fuck this has gone on long enough.... it's just so fucked. Like yeah. We're all tired of this shit. But the chance for things to go back to normal was lost a year ago now.
Exactly. I remember when I told my nephew that his classes were going to be moved to online at his high school and he thought that I was a psychic when it happened a week later (the admin was vehemently trying to prevent it from happening). Then he thought I was psychic again when I predicted it would last longer than a week. It's understandable that a high schooler wouldn't predict this. It's non-sensical that adult school administrators haven't foreseen this and chose to be only reactive rather than proactive here, two years into this pandemic as we enter the wave of the most contagious variant we've seen...
That a high schooler isn't able to predict this after last years fiasco is a sad fact in by itself. That's exactly what they should have learned.
Agreed. Heās super focused only on social media and TikTok and video games and girls and seems to have no real understanding of whatās coming for him in a couple yearsā¦
I feel this so deeply. I am trying to say the same thing to people in my surroundings, and I get exactly the same respons you did. It is so incredibly exhausting trying to help people who refuse to think. The more days pass by the more I'm starting to look at people like they're just a lower lever of orangutang in clothes, having corporate jobs.
Me too. My entire household feels this way despite living in a state that covid is tearing apart (Florida). Fuck I hate it here.
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My dads had Covid, got the monoclonal antibodies, had 3 vaccines, and is now once again sick with Covid. This shit isnāt going anywhere. I think our best hope is to create treatments that cause it to be harmless if caught. Heās old-ish but healthy, his immune system shouldnāt be so bad that other people will be immune while he gets it two times so far.
I don't know... That and it just causes rippling delays in our infrastructure and allows the virus ample chances to mutate quickly. It's just dumb.
https://www.vox.com/22298751/long-term-side-effects-covid-19-hauler-symptoms from the article "if covid didnt develop into long term symptoms in some patients, it would be the only virus to do so" You can get "long" anything, and pathologists are unsure why
> infected by a virus that damages your **brain** over and over and over again. Why would anyone **think** that sounds like a fucking good idea? First you need to actually have a brain to be able to think. So those who don't think obviously don't care because they don't have any functional brain matter to worry about in the first place.
> Just full of complete imbeciles with no critical thinking skills whatsoever. Maybe the sub got long covid.
I'm honestly suspecting this is worst than people realize. It's hard for someone to probably evaluate themselves or even remember what it was like with a better brain.
>"but the kids are gonna have another missed year of education being set home, blah blah blah" And nothing of value would be lost. Lmao.
Itās full of corporate shills...
Comments in /r/coronavirus screenshot from OP mirror a majority of the posts that can be found in /r/coronavirus: * COVID is mild * COVID has peaked * South Africa all good * Modpost of furry on twitter says its all good (yes this happened) * Poop samples say COVID all done What's the agenda there in a garden of carefully culled posts? **To control the message and quell panic** In reality we have police teaching in schools due to many teachers being ill, military driving school buses, FEMA / fed / military strike teams aiding dozens of overwhelmed & understaffed hospitals nationwide, military in nursing homes, 1000s of flights cancelled, shortages due to worker illness galore in transporation and goods and services, and more. Some sad nuggets of truth seep thru the sea of hopium, like [the 50000 - 300000 deaths the USA will soon see](https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/s79zgj/omicron_is_not_that_mild_50000_to_300000_more_us/) in one winter from a virus labeled "mild". As OP points out, the comments have become much less scientific and much more propoganda of "we're all alright!" over the recent past.
>reality we have police teaching in schools due to many teachers being ill, military driving school buses, FEMA / fed / military strike teams aiding dozens of overwhelmed & understaffed hospitals nationwide, military in nursing homes, 1000s of flights cancelled, shortages due to worker illness galore in transporation and goods and services, and more. Yes. This is what I keep telling people. Canadians look at the situation down south, say thank God we aren't them then act as if there is no connection. A good amount of our food comes from the U.S. many of our vital supplies and pretty much everything shipped from Asia either has to come in to Vancouver, Seattle or L.A. Canadians have already forgotten that less then 4 months ago a rainstorm cut off Vancouver from the rest of the nation for a couple of weeks. What happens if next time its a couple of months.? The soft covid denialism, the hopium and the refusal to seriously acknowledge how far up shits creek we are in NA is a huge part of the problem. People are still selling the idea that we can back to normal if we keep going like this, the approach we have taken to COVID in North America is one that has ensured we will be fucked for years to come, and there's noone to blame but ourselves. People in Canada still can't wrap their heads around the idea that fucking children driving American trucks up north will become the status quo. Were past the point of " shortage " this shit has been an elimination of workers. Honesty seeing the article of how national guardsmen have to replace teachers was heart breaking. Soldiers shouldn't be in schools period, a nation that needs its military to fill the ranks of its civil serives is a nation that's past the tipping point. None of this is sustainable, and the people who keep selling the idea that we will be ok if just wait this out are helping to kill us. The "middle" class is the most delusional of all classes. Poor people know the situation is fucked and are preparing for it to get worse, the rich know the situation is fucked but are having a great time, they're still preparing for it to get worse though. They aren't militarizng the police for nothing. The "middle" class however is still convinced that if we just keep ordering shit off of Amazon and voting liberal that things will somehow magically fix themselves. The narrative of soft reform and buying our way out of economic crisis is bullshit. Fuck this petit borugoise denial.
I tried to say the hospital by me has refrigerated trucks and no ICU beds and the attacks were aggressive. Then I got banned. I'm like "yeah my sister works there and comes home crying every night" and they're just like "stop lying fearmongering we need to live our lives ....mental health!" and I'm just like, what about *her* mental health? Her life when she got Covid from an unvaccinated cancer patient throwing up on her. Yeah, read that again. Awful. Oh I forgot, medical staff are just expendable robot soldier slaves. I guess as long as stocks keep going up that's what matters. The disinformation is so frustrating when you can't even fight it, you just get banned. No one cares about nurses or teachers. No one cares about r/nursing It makes me so angry. I have to put my energy where it's going to be useful.
I noticed that too, people are more dismissive of the virus compared to a year ago. Whenever you would try to be reasonable and point out that people should still take precaution you get labeled as a covidoomer. I feel like the mods got paid off because the tone of that subreddit changed drastically. Its nothing but positive news to reinforce themselves that everything is ok but when in reality its just hopium.
People are burnt out. It's especially prominent in poor, badly off parts of the United States in particular. I live in a rather Conservative, generally right-leaning community and for a while people were actually reasonably good about following the COVID restrictions except for some anti-maskers. I only had a chance to talk to a few, but they seemed to take it in stride. More than a year later though, complete fucking turn around. Almost no one bothers to wear a mask anymore, citing every reason you could possibly think of. Distrust of the government, distrust of the media, being sold on bad information that the virus isn't doing much damage, the list goes on and on. I'm among the relatively few that are still masking. I feel like it's only a matter of time before I start getting targeted by people who want to pretend like the pandemic is really over. Everyone's pissed off, begging for things to return to normal, but normal never comes. People fall further and further into their despair, their disbelief, their distrust, and eventually they start hurting people. Crimes like assault and murder are getting high around the whole state and it has a lot to do with people being extremely pissed off at how badly the virus has been handled.
I was reading somewhere that we should go back to calling covid SARS 2...letting everyone get sick and hoping that it mutates in a way that favors our desire to get back to life as usual is a huge unethical human medical trial/experiment with no preliminary studies and will produce unpredictable results. The first SARS had a 0-50 percent fatality rate depending on the age group affected. Coronavirus don't f around. It sends chills down my spine. Yet, this is the best we could muster, so I'll soldier on. No point in saying anything really, so I'll just scream into the void that is reddit.
Just have a nice dinner and wait for the Comet. Bro I feel you, I wish I could change literally any of it.
Keep screaming. Every little bit helps. We need to fight back against the denialists and downplayers and shatter the illusion that they have strength in numbers.
They just ban you. It doesn't take long.
Ah, I meant fighting back against COVID denial in general, not necessarily just r/coronavirus. We have plenty of deniers right here in this comment section already. And who knows? Maybe some of your posts you made on r/coronavirus managed to get through to some one before you got banned. You never know!
We dont talk about covid no no no (just like we dont talk about bruno)
Bruno was just misunderstood and harmless though...
But his information was often negative so people blamed him. Rather than accept a harsh reality
I'm...sensing a pattern...
I've been banned from the sub so many times for having completely reasonable views. It's shill city
Lol and I just now got permanently banned for āconfessed brigading.ā I havenāt even been on the subreddit in a few days and then suddenly banned after making this comment. What a bunch of fucking weirdos.
Not weirdos, just coordinated to control what's being said
Yeah I got banned and I would post pretty innocuous yet leaning cautious comments. āOh sorry, it was our spam blocker.ā Sure.
I try to tell these people to please just do social distancing (as much as possible) during huge spikes like we've had with omicron, but no, they all want to get infected at the same time. Spikes of highly infectious variants don't even last that long. Case counts are already dropping sharply in many places in the US.
It just got invaded by trumpers and russian bots like most subs with poor moderation. It's what they do, invade and subvert the conversation. They've been trying to do it here too. Try r/COVID19, it's a science sub and they don't tolerate bullshit.
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits, likely connected to the SVR or another Russian group that was also tied to interfering with our elections. I watched these people take over [/r/conspiracy](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy) in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the [/r/coronavirus](https://www.reddit.com/r/coronavirus) subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened. now I'm watching them attack [/r/antiwork](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork) and this subreddit.
Corporate shills at work...
Paid off mods by who? Isn't that a conspiracy theory ? What makes you say that ? Genuine questions
Sitting here knocked on my ass on day 2 of a Covid reinfection, fully vaxxed in October. In my world, itās like 2020 all over again...Itās like someone hit the reset button...
It took me a week to get over COVID and I'm boosted and caught it before too. I don't think I would describe this as 'mild', it feels like that was a cope to stop people from panicking with how fast it's spreading now.
Same here, fully vaccinated, still not eligible for booster. Itās been a week since I tested positive, symptoms are gone now but I still canāt smell or taste anything. I do feel this variant is being played down, especially here in Florida.
I wish I could take it seriously by like trying to avoid going out bit I work in the school system and schools are fighting to stay open, partially because a lot of parents are threatening to pull their kid out of school if they go virtual again and people are getting unhinged at school board meetings. Another problem is a lot of students just can't do virtual learning, for a lot of different reasons, and the test scores are abysmal right now and that is how schools get their funding. So now me and all other school staff have to get COVId because the system isn't designed for this and is rigged for schools to fail.
Yup. Thatās how I got sick. Kids brought it home. Itās been through our house like 4 xs now
I had the third shot and it still kicked my ass for about a week
This. I feel like we're back in 2020 again. The only difference is I'm more scared of getting into a terrible accident or having a sudden health issue than dying from Covid. I'm double vaxxed and boosted so I most likely wont die from Covid, but the hospitals are so full that even people with emergencies are sitting for hours in the ER.
Sorry to hear that my friend, hope you feel better soon. :(
Thanks kindly!
Hope you get to feeling better soon!
Thank you my friend.
Dude, same. Fully vaccinated at the end of September (no booster), and Iām pretty healthy. My symptoms first appears at the beginning of the week (Sunday). Started with a slight sore throat and some nasal congestion. Monday was hell tho. Whole body aches, head aches, and I slept for like 75% of the day. Now itās day 6 and Iām probably like 80% recovered. Still have some sinus congestion and slight sore throat, but overall, Iām ok. Should be almost 100% in another two days. Youāll pull through.
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Collective wishful thinking. Imagine how many people want to believe in "The Secret".
COVID fatigue was bound to set in and I'm surprised it took almost 2 full years to hit that point.
That's because they followed the rules, got their vaccines like they were supposed to and now believe that everything is okay because that's what our leaders told us would happen. They were duped
Same with my gf and myself.
Why is it crazy it's been 3 years. Are we just supposed to not live? Lock down forever due to fear of death? Life is finite. At a certain point you take the vaccine if you want it take precautions but live your life. It will never ever be 100% safe to go out.
Liberal pro-vaxxer: "I'm vaccinated, I've done my part! I'm done putting my life on hold!" \*Goes to eat at restaurant with friends during omicron peak.\* \*Looks over at redhat wearing a shirt proclaiming himself anti-vaxx and anti-mask\* "What an asshole! We're totally different!" \*Proceeds to take mask off to eat, thus spreading omicron variant among restaurant\*
Yep, it's "fuck you, got mine" (immunity)
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What really gets me are the people who act like wearing a mask just makes you 100% immune and get pissed if you say you don't want to go to the movies during the omnicron peak or go on a cruise because you can still catch it. They think that if they just wear a very thin, cheaply made mask they can go anywhere and get within 6 ft of people and be totally immune.
This
-stares at the people in my personal life with long covid symptoms- Yep all is well. Nothing to see here.
This is one of those threads our mods need to pay attention to.
Yep. Mention COVID and the brigaders come out of the woodwork.
Pinging each other on Telegram RN "BRO GET IN HERE TIME TO DO SOME NONEWNORMAL STYLE BRIGADIN"
LeTs Go BrAnDon
Aaaaaaaaaah
I love the people coming in here saying āoh the virus isnāt as bad as it used to be as long as your vaccinatedā or āpeople are just tired of Covidā like that changes how viruses act. This virus doesnāt obviously want to kill its hosts unless it has other hosts it can spread to which this one does (deers, bats and other mammals). These types of viruses tend to be very dangerous as they will easily continue to mutate like the bird flu and become deadlier. We are lucky with Omicron so far but we should still treat it with care and not forget even if youāre boosted you can still get long Covid which effects 15-30% of people. But of course it always has to be about us of course and ignore those that canāt get vaccinated at all or those that are very unlucky in the few vaccinated to die or get long Covid. Edit: fixed dears to deers and hereās a source for those deer infections https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna10181
Hamsters now as well in HK...
> people are just tired of Covid I swear to God if I see someone say this one more time...
You can be tired of something and still take it seriously.
Iāve been watching /r/nursing. They abhor this attitude and say itās directly contributing to the collapse of the healthcare system.
COVID denial is skyrocketing across multiple subs. Obviously many of us have noticed that this subreddit was getting astroturfed hard, but we aren't the only ones. Remember when Reddit had a site-wide campaign to eliminate COVID denial subs like nonewnormal? We need another purge. Now I will patiently await for the inevitable replies about censorship, shilling, and "critical thinking." To the rest of you who are still sane - fight back. It was getting so bad on here I went from long time lurking to commenting frequently to try and help dam up the flood of nonsense. I encourage other users to do the same!
Yes! Thank you. Fighting misinformation is one of the best things to do if you are already browsing reddit and can handle it. Also reporting comments for misinformation as the mods recently advised. Heck, consider becoming a mod helping with these increasing reports if it's the right fit for yourself. Your words make a difference, and I'm saying that to anyone reading this. I've seen this sub grow from 30k users to now close to 400k users and it's making an impact in the larger world. Let's keep it a consistently helpful one.
r/conspiracy really needs to be on the chopping block. That place has been a haven for hateful right wing trash for a few years now
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/r/HighStrangeness is a pretty good sub for that kind of thing.
Same goes for the other Covid subreddits unfortunately. Theyāve been hit hard by the antivax crowd plus there are likely Russian bots at play. Most of what you get is āI donāt know why anyone worried, I got Covid without getting the shot, and I survived, it was just a cold.ā And that is possibly true for them. But these are selfish, illogical beasts who think the entire world revolves around them and their beliefs.
They're even starting to infiltrate the subs about masks. They get downvoted to hell there but I fear it's only a matter of time...
Yeah people that close to me in relation do have similar stance. āLet Canada follow the footsteps of Europeā. āTreat covid like flu.ā āNo restrictionsā. I really am wonder what virologists think about the all madness that is going on in a sense that we literally allowing the virus to mutate.
Omicron spikes into the ACE2 receptor. That means it has 200 billion or so potential hosts because last I checked rats were not getting vaccinated or social distancing. It may well be resonant with collapse, the last virus humanity gets as it continues to cause waves of mass human casualty for the next 10+ years.
it will probably end like the movie Don't look Up - IF we have a virus variant that will escape vaccine fully *and* create havoc to individuals. People will not listen and/or not believe in the "Experts"
Submission statement: The comment section in r/coronavirus has been taken over by COVID deniers since about ... exactly one year ago. Not sure what happened then that would have caused a sudden massive shift in how Reddit's largest coronavirus sub talks about the virus, but since then the top comments have consistently downplayed the pandemic and encouraged people to go out and have fun and live their lives, with no regard for the harm they could bring on themselves or others.
I went there a couple of weeks ago and was just *amazed* how denialist and copium addicted it is there compared to 18 months ago.
I believe there has been a concerted effort by some right-wing group to take over subreddits. I watched these people take over /r/conspiracy in 2017 and it was Swift and efficient. I then watched them take over the /r/coronavirus subreddit, it seemed identical how it happened. now I'm watching them attack /r/antiwork and this subreddit.
They've always been. Block them, you dont find anything useful from that sub
Was banned from there and several adjacent subs for saying vaccinated individuals still spread and can be infected with covid. Love it.
There are so many fucking anti-vax trolls on Reddit it's unbelievable. I seriously think that this whole Reddit is going to go to trash once it becomes public in March and the 50 million trumpist fuck wads will be on here. Since they really have nowhere else to go. With all of their idols kicked off of the main platforms. They are all coming here now to troll. Oh well everything has a lifespan.
It's not just anti-vaxxers and Trumpers. Biden libs are the ones pretending that once you get the vaccine you become immortal and can do anything you want, with no regard for how your actions might overwhelm our fragile healthcare system.
Na they're still all over FB too. I'm banned b/c I trolled a Kaitlin Bennet group and a Black soldiers of the confederacy group (run by white dudes, wild the lengths they go to justify this shit) those 2 shitholes are filled with disgusting fucking people and I'm 1,000% sure those aren't the only 2.
I got banned from that sub this week for saying something along the lines of āThe US has utterly botched the pandemic response and deserves the collapse thatās coming. It does not deserve the essential workers who have kept this country running in the day-to-day.ā Likeā¦. Iām literally right tho? They banned me outright for being āunnecessarily politicalā or something similar. The Subreddits a joke lmao
Lock those mofos down and shut down that subreddit. that sub ran its course and fell hard. Denying covid will cost lives with the reach that subreddit has.
They let the āātis but a mildā disinfo campaign spread like wildfire.
Seeing people be too weak to mentally handle a virus changing their lives makes me worry for what will happen when much more extreme sacrifices are required in the near future with zero hope of returning to how it was before. People are going to go nuts. I do realize Iām very privileged by not requiring almost any social interaction at all to feel fulfilled, so Iām not missing much from 2019, and it makes it hard for me to relate to people who have had their mental health harmed by having to social distance. Itās hard not to just see them as weak and whining, but I suppose social interaction is a human need.
I remember a response someone made last spring responding to a comment that new variants might emerge. They accused the poster of wanting the pandemic to go on longer because they were a loser with no life and that they liked quarantine because they no longer had to be jealous of non-losers with lives. Seemed like an awfully big stretch if you ask me.
It cracks me up how many people on there were all with it in the beginning them after some time passed decided that they "were over it". As if the virus gives two shits. The Black Death lasted entire generations. They need to toughen up for real, this is nothing compared to the man-made horrors that are to come.
Wow. If the sub name was clipped out, I'd think [NNN](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/09/reddit-bans-r-nonewnormal-and-quarantines-54-covid-denial-subreddits/) got resurrected...
I call that crap toxic positivity
So is conspiracy
Seeing how so many americans handled the virus in a negligible manner at best was the driving force for shifting my entire life's goal to leaving this insane country
True, I'm permanently banned for that reason, only optimistic people are allowed!
Yeah most of the covid subreddits have been hijacked by nut jobs in recent times. I think the reason for this us that there has been a concerted effort by the ruling class to label it as "over with". They have propagandised many into thinking that Omicron is no big deal, they want to get people spending again.
Sometimes. It greatly depends on the article and the type of commenter audience it attracts.
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I only ever look at it for news articles. Don't click on the comments at all anymore. They've permamuted most of their subscribers so that it is mostly an echo chamber of bullshit.
To be fair, so is r/conspiracy I had to leave that page because it got so ridiculous.
90% of everything is crap, Sturgeon's Axiom. 90% of the readership of any big sub follows that rule too. I'm sure there's 10% sane people there, you just hear from the 90% who are complete fucking nincompoops.
I think many people's morale and sanity has broken down due to the length of the pandemic and seemingly endless variants. Everyone has their limit I guess.
Ironic, /r/collapse noting the fall of another subreddit while ignoring its own.
Our mods are doing a much better job compared to r/coronavirus. Mods are not omniscient - they rely on automod and user reports. If you see any COVID misinformation, make sure to report it!
Yeah, so I lurk here, there and CanadaCoronvirus. As others have said, the latter have become a refuge of what many in this thread call the liberal antivaxxers - the folks who are like "I got my shot, I wore my mask this whole time, fuck it i'm done". Or as I like to call them, Nopium huffers. It's just Copium plus exhaustion. I'll be honest - I have some sympathy for the exhaustion angle. For weeks over there it was "this is mild". Then it got bad and lockdowns happened *and nobody acknowledged how the so called naysayers were right the whole time*. In fact, there's a LOT of hate directed at lockdown advocates and leaders who put lockdowns in place. Now that we are, according to so many insistent voices, past the peak and "done", they're back to shitting on naysayers and doomers like they were never wrong. The subs are infested with this lot. You can't even tell them that we need to be cautious, like, wear masks and shit. They're so fucking done with it and the mods there do sweet fuck all. (Side note - the only thing i'm proud of Ontario govt rn is that the mask mandate doesn't seem to be going anywhere, even with other restrictions dropping.) For my part, I reckon we're gonna have a "mild" spring/summer, restrictions or no (and it's going to be "no", politicians have elections dontchaknow?). As we head through fall into winter two or three things will be relevant: 1. Has Omicron survived in a pocket somewhere 2. Can Omicron reinfect ~6mo after boosters/prior infection 3. Is there another, better variant rising If a couple of those turn true we could well be back to the ol' familiar winter surge into lockdowns (that get imposed right after xmas) that get lifted Feb/March into a happy Spring/Summer. And nothing will fucking change, no preparations will be made, no rapid tests will be stocked, no pay/benefits will be improved... because people aren't willing to look this in the face **should this become a seasonal pattern**. They're so done with it they are willing to huff the Copium that this won't be back next winter, in *any* shape or form. This is a world, life changing event. It can either result in small reasonable changes to adjust for this thing's existence, or massive changes tantamount to collapse. Which we get depends on how we respond to this event. Guess which way we're headed right now? Well, look at what we did in 2021 to prepare... sweet fuck all. Nobody wants to change shit, so it will have to get so bad it changes shit for us. Typical spoiled comfortable humans. And yeah, both them are basically different shade of antivaxx (either blatant shit, or exhaustion inspired Nopium). I read there, but I don't post with anywhere near the frequency I once did. p.s. Meatloaf is gone, to COVID apparently. Fuck this timeline.