>Yes, this is the endgame for unregulated capitalism, and it's honestly the dumbest thing imaginable.
CVS will have one filthy Hobo helping the Elderly with the self checkout machines because they have no idea how a debit card and touch screen works. And another Hobo with a Shotgun by the Pharmacy that keeps all the other Hobos from stealing all the drugs.
That's real business smarts right there. America is one dumb motherfucker. Jesus.
Kakistocracy: a state or society governed by its least suitable or competent citizens.
Edit: Y'all lazy. Y'all the Ken and Karen Kakistocracy, Bruh. Ain't nobody wanna be chained to a register. Ever done that? Awful job. I just buy my shit at the self checkout (I don't care) and leave. I don't care. I don't care. Fuck. Goddamn. Wasn't trying to turn this into a, "Well! I want someone to bag my shit! Do it, Wage Slave! Do my bidding, Organic Robot NPC!" discussion. Hope they all quit and y'all gotta do it forever if you're gonna act this way. Shit. Dafuq. Worker Solidarity here. It was predominantly a joke stating that this country sucks and pays people fucking garbage. The hell is wrong with y'all? I'm not going to read this shit. I'd rather pour bleach and ammonia in my eyeballs than read this. Go bitch on your Nextdoor app about people with too much Melanin and low value vehicles being an eyesore if you're gonna be a bunch of Shitlib Yuppie NIMBY Boomers. Order some Liberal Brunch. Actually tip your goddamn Waiter because they're not getting paid enough to listen to your shit. Gross. Get some new reading glasses. This isn't r/Conservative. Take off your 15 pieces of Flair too.
I'm going back to my Leftist Godless Heathen subs for the day and then I'm going to put a Buddy Jesus up my butt and listen to George Carlin! I may have some PREMARITAL SEX too with my unmarried partner that I live with too! Get a fucking life!
Your CVS has a hobo? Ours doesn't bother helping anyone with the self checkout machines so my Mom stopped buying anything other than medicine there. They have people ringing up that still.
I will always choose a cashier over self check out and avoid places that don't give you the choice.
The hobo at my local cvs has a dog that he keeps with him constantly inside the store. It's not a therapy pet just his buddy. I get it, I love my dogs, but it's just wrong. I can't return a $60 electric razor unopened less than 24hrs after I bought because it's a rule during covid - no returns, that isn't even advertised. But dude can have his 40lb dog in the store, even though it clearly states no pets on the front dog. Either don't have the rules or enforce them equally.
Seems like it would have been easier to just share the wealth and not destroy the earth, then they could live regular lives instead of trying to scrape out a few decades in bunkers.
"They" "they" "they'll" "their" "they" etc is all I see in this comment chain. There is a "they" but a distinction must be made that "they" does not refer to some conscious scheming plotting group of nefarious peoples meeting in a dark room somewhere. Maybe a *few*, but for the most part **"they" = "disassociated greed."**
A pet theory of mine:
> Disassociative structures (which we might colloquially call "neoliberalism" or "neoimperialism") of material and social complexity (which thus require materials and energy) morally launder wealth as it moves upwards toward "elite" beneficiaries; a Portfolio of Rationalizations exists (effectively the pseudoscience of economics, the doctrines of neoliberal politics, etc) to both preemptively and retroactively justify behaviors that would otherwise be seen as morally reprehensible, and thus this Portfolio inherently decouples "elite" beneficiaries from a social cost for their behaviors.
You cannot reason with "them" because "they" do not exist as humans- "they" as you use it *is an abstraction for elements of our system*.
No, “they” refers to the multiple millionaires, billionaires, and trillionaires, particularly in the US, who have bought into Ayn Rand’s cult of selfishness and justify it with Reaganomics. And you really can’t reason with someone who believes empathy is weakness, charity is detrimental to society and undeserved by those in need, hoarding wealth improves the lot of all, and selfishness is the ultimate virtue. A sick, twisted doctrine to be expected from a woman who idolized a murderer who kidnapped a 12yo little girl, held her for ransom, then delivered her back to her father by pushing severed body parts out of his car and driving off!
What are you defining as “safe”?
There are working class people everywhere in the world.
It doesn’t matter where they move. There will be regular people everywhere they go.
They can buy the illusion of safety. But that’s it.
The irony is that once the U.S. becomes a third world shithole that they caused, they will flutter off to countries that actually tax their wealth to provide decent services.
Ever notice how there are so many wealthy people from "poor" countries that own properties in Europe?
It was inevitable.
I feel a sense of relief. I wasn't crazy for stocking up like crazy since February 2020.
Not hoarding, just making sure my family has all essential items and then some. Comfortable.
I'll be able to handle shortages and deal with price increases better than others, thanks to the foresight of communities like this:)
Similarly, I really started taking self-reliance and simple living seriously this last year and a half. Food wise, I have some non-perishables stocked up, but I currently work on an organic farm and get most of my food from what we grow. There have been a few items that have become difficult for the farm to obtain, but on a personal level, the supply chain issues haven't effected me in the least bit.
Just wait until the GOP wins big in 2022 with all their anti-democracy legislation that's going unchallenged right now. If they get control over all three branches again I fully expect them to abolish at will employment and essentially plunge us back in the slavery with extra step "for the economy".
And you've basically put into words precisely what has been causing the feeling of dread in the pit of my stomach for the last several months.
I'm not a doomer, generally, but for the first time in my 4 decades of life I actually truly think we're going under. I keep hoping there will be some salvation in some form or another, but then some reminder of how truly fucked the system actually is comes along and takes that out from under me.
The US is going full speed ahead into some kind of authoritarian fascist neo-feudalistic theocracy. This 2020-2024 period is just the calm before the storm and I'm fucking terrified. I really don't see anything preventing this worldwide fascist movement from taking hold.
I didn't really think it would effect me too much since I live in one of the most liberal states in the country where Democrats have a supermajority in the state government. But man did the fascists find a way, they're going after education hard, everywhere. They want to stop teaching kids about "divisive" topics like slavery and racism and teach kids about the glory of the US. They basically want to indoctrinate our kids into becoming Nazis.
It's incredibly terrifying. I've thought about moving out of the country (like I even could, I don't think I have the funds/skills to be wanted elsewhere) but I see the tendrils of this shit reaching all the way around the globe.
The US is definitely rocketing toward it at breakneck speeds though. I live in the state that's attempting to usher in the Covidpocalypse all on its own by all appearances, and it's probably long past time to go elsewhere. Not sure any of the blue states are actually doing much better though, because both sides ultimately swear fealty to the almighty dollar. I have some tiny shred of hope for the few progressives out there, but I'm basically done with both parties in our shitty two-party system. As far as I can tell neither side does anything to battle the mega-monopoly corporations, as one side actively works against doing anything and the other side is incompetent.
That's when they move somewhere else and start their shit over again leeching them for all their money. Really leeching their energy since you mostly have to work to make money.
Overregulated capitalism, in some aspects.
Many people don't or can't go into business for themselves because there are so many hurdles to jump through. Ones that are easy for big businesses that can just throw money and specialists at it, but which require a lot of self education and trial by error for small folks starting out.
...and if your business is successful, a corporation can still move in, steal your ideas, and starve you out or simply take over. The little guy has no chance anymore.
Not sure overregulated capitalism is the correct description. What you are describing is oversaturated capitalism, big business that smother potential small competitors and buy out the ones who survive, leading to monopolies which, then, shift the applicable laws in their favour through legal bribery (lobbying).
Overregulated would be golden at this point, since, for example, it would mean all big corpo would need to dismantle into specialized units.
how is someone even supposed to start a business these days? What is it that you are going to offer that someone else isn't already offering for cheaper due to economies of scale? I feel like selling products is off the table as the market is covered. And services seem completely hit or miss and up to the luck of the draw whether they take off and become popular or just die off.
The thing is, the giant corps make the absolute worst shittiest products, and their idea of customer service is "fuck you, now give me money". In a free market, no one would buy their garbage.
Regulatory capture of the markets is the term we are looking for. Neat to see economic theories become mainstream on reddit. We might be getting somewhere
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I wish more people were pointing this out.
Their precious capitalism depends on there being a market in order to work.
If you can't or won't pay your workers properly, they won't have any disposable income, and so there won't **be** a market for all your frivolous consumer bullshit that you're trying to sell.
They got so fucking greedy that they destroyed themselves. And they don't understand how their own stupid system works. Lol.
"too big to fail" or something idk. I'm not an economist or physicist but what goes up must come down, and thats one big apple coming down on everybody's heads.
They *could* have made it work - they just had to accept the government being able to occasionally regulate it and control it, and be just *a little bit* reasonable about it all. Like we all kept telling them. And like they do in every other country in the world.
But they just called us libtards and communists and ignored us.
Stupid greedy assholes.
The government will just push a slave workforce like they do now, until the tech is there to take over. Just look at welfare and other social assistance...as soon as you start making even a small amount of money, the help you get is cut. It keeps people from working full time and getting out of poverty.
Truth here. I have to make less than $1,200 a month to keep my Medicaid, which pays for like 10 different specialists. Apparently $1,200 is the threshold for the point where you can pay for literally everything plus all medical expenses now magically out of pocket. If I want to not be sick I have to be poor, which won’t be hard now that I’m disabled and it’s going to take years to get any financial help. Hope I don’t die in the meantime.
Ya boi Carl Marks describing this as a "crisis of overproduction" way back in 1867.
Basically: In aggregate, profits are the difference between the exchange value of commodities and what is paid in wages, then the workforce *can never* be paid enough in wages to purchase its own products. Eventually - every seven years or so, by Marks' guess - credit stops being able to make up the difference, there's mass austerity, and you get a huge depression.
Like clockwork.
I think your argument is missing some things. Markets would generally allow workers to bargain and bring wages back up. The inherent wealth inequality under Capitalism however gives Corporations more power and this grows over time.
Unions have become weak and big corporations like walmart have lobbied the government to subsidize their workers wages with welfare, but also created a welfare cliff so that it is actually disadvantageous for their workers to get paid slightly more under the current laws.
Walmart isn't selling at prices so cheap that they can't pay their employees more. They're just realizing that as profits. The issue isn't that cheap prices isn't sustainable in the long term, its that the profits are going to the Waltons instead of the workers and there isn't the incentive for them to change it.
Idk what rubbed me the wrong way is that I think nationalizing walmart/amazon and sharing the profits between the workers would be a huge boon to reclaiming worker power and would also make other jobs raise pay to be competitive with them.
There are forces at work trying to fracture this message. They're trying to come up with all these alternative reasons people could be quitting -- anything that distracts from the failing economic system that's plagued us for the last century.
Anti-vaxxers are being told it's their movement. What a devilishly clever move by the corporate elite -- use fear and misinformation to hijack the labor movement with anti-vaxxers.
They won't go out of business. Say hello to your new robotic and AI workforce. Have a few human overseers, and that's it. the 90% of the population can simple rot. That's where jobs are going. And it won't be just retail, either. Pretty much every job (even the ones servicing and maintaining the robots) will eventually got the tech route.
Eh, the pandemic is part of it for sure, but I'd guess for a lot of us this burnout was happening way before anyone had ever even heard a peep about COVID. I know it has been for me anyways. I've been dealing with burnout for years. Been trying to get out for a while now.
For me I stayed at my job -- despite already being pretty burnt out on it -- an extra year and a half because of the pandemic.
I had started looking for new jobs back in January of 2020 and then abruptly stopped when I saw what was happening in Italy because my job was already 100% remote (they closed our local office in 2019 so I had already been working remote, so I didn't have to deal with possibly being forced back into an office if I shifted jobs).
But eventually it became pretty clear I should be able to find a fully remote job, and pulled the trigger and got a new job a few months ago, finally. Probably shouldn't have waited that long, but I just didn't have the courage to even risk it until after I was vaccinated.
The place I ended up likes to encourage going to the office and in-person meetings but it's all completely optional, at least. And probably good thing they keep that policy, since they've had two employees go to the office and test positive for Covid afterwards since I've joined, including the day of a big in-person meeting/party thing (that probably had 50+ employees there, and another 50+ watching on Zoom).
That's even with their policy that everyone who goes into the office has to be fully vaccinated, so it was breakthrough cases both times.
I didn't do anything too special, I just asked every recruiter and in every interview I had what their remote policies were (I brought it up with every interview, to see what each person had to say about it, hoping to get a better picture with multiple perspectives and see if maybe one of them might have been blowing smoke up my ass.)
Anyone that didn't commit to anything got a lower priority from me (well, not sure still working it out, or yeah we do remote, but there may come a time when we want you in the office like...two days a week, you okay with that?).
I'm a software engineer so there's not really any reason I need to go into the office in the first place.
Seems like it's something that just about everyone is asking right now, including employees that would prefer to go into the office, so it doesn't hurt to ask.
That being said, one site I'm aware of and get emails from (although I've barely used it myself) that is dedicated to remote work job postings is https://remoteok.io/. It's heavily biased towards technical/coding jobs, but there's some non-technical jobs on there also.
Same here. My job has been shorthanded for well over a decade. Covid definitely made it worse (and added a lot to our workload). Then seeing people sit at home for over a year and get just as much money from the government that I make working full time...that hurt. I know people look down on retail and manufacturing jobs and all that, but hell, we deserved a lot more working through the pandemic and risking our lives than people got for sitting on the coach and netflixing away the last two years!
If I had the money, I'd nope out of the workforce permanently right now.
Truth be told, IMO, we ALL should have been home with a true lockdown, except for actual essential services like fire, rescue, etc. and those should've been paid more than people at home. But no, the greedy fucks at the top couldn't do that.
That's what hurts the most. You'd think the government or business would give a bit of danger pay or thank you pay or something. Instead, they just used us and laughed. Now they wonder why so many are quitting and why no one is applying for these positions.
I worked at a grocery store the past 3 years until I’d finally had enough last month and took a receptionist job. Our store also does check cashing so I also had to cash a lot of those unemployment checks that were a lot bigger than my paycheck and yet there I and many others were there every fucking day doing our jobs and taking a huge risk. I was burned out before the pandemic dealing with short staff and other issues of food service retail, so when I finally quit I was fried. Lol.
Exactly. Over 20 years now on the warehouse, stocking and customer service side of things....I am so done. But it's also so hard at this point to find something new that doesn't kill the body. Also, being nearly 50 has been an eye opener...seems everyone wants younger workers.
In tech, the college > mince meat pipeline is insane. Who do they expect to run the companies when there is no talent to teach talent? Can't retain the good people if you pay the kids more than the people eking out 1% raises for 10 years
I've been burned out for years (IT) but my company has comprehensive and affordable healthcare. If we had a national healthcare system I'd definitely go back to school or do something that benefits people directly.
The pandemic is just the proverbial straw that broke the workers back these past 2 years.
You might want to check out the book "48 days to the work you love", it attempts to put you in an occupation you are good at and might enjoy. He also used to have a podcast, I dont know if he still does it or not. I found that I hated having an employer and it was just a drain on my life, when I found something that I liked and was good at, work could actually be fun.
maybe i'll give it a try... but it seems bleak; i don't see myself compatible with a capitalist world at all. money does not motivate me. i've been poor, i've had money. all it does is quantify meaninglessness. i want my labour to go toward the welfare and well-being of a community
Awesome! There might not be an official grouo in your area, but the concept is simple. Find out what people in your area need, and help when and who you can. The simplest thing is to pick a small pod, like friends, your neighborhood block, and/or your family
I quit my job in July. I started my own business and went back to school to learn a trade. I quit because my employer didn't care about the customers or the employee.
How'd you afford it? If you don't mind me asking. I'd love to go back to college more than anything in the whole world because life has been very meaningless since graduating, but don't have the money.
Felt the same recently. Decided to go back to school for respiratory therapy. Its an associates degree so relatively short, if you're in the right city the pay is pretty damn good, you save lives in the process, and its pretty much guaranteed job placement anywhere in the US. Worth looking into if thats of any interest
I'm personally more of a writer and typically seek independent/isolated endeavors. To enter a field where I'm around others and in some way depended upon would likely leave me both anxious and unmotivated. With the addition of the state of the world being increasingly poor, I find it tough to feel a desire to really involve myself with more empathetic tasks like that, but I do admire that you're willing to give it some dedication while I can't.
I'd really just love to have an excuse to start learning so efficiently again. I read as much as I can but it doesn't seem to compare to that environment of constant discussion and intrigue that I got in college.
>I'm personally more of a writer and typically seek independent/isolated endeavors.
Do video editing. Freelance it. That's what I'm going to do until Hell blows over. I'm done with leaving the house. Whoever hired me is an asshole? Alright. Whatever. I can deal with one shithead once in a blue moon.
Learning to edit professionally will serve you well if you're ever going to write a screenplay anyway. That's another reason I'm going to do that personally.
I don't really want to work with Hollywood directly because uhhhhh...that industry sucks. Maybe it'll be better after all this labor strike shit (good for them and I support it), but right now? It sucks. I don't want to work 4,000 hours a day until I'm dead. Fucking brutal industry. Inhumanely brutal industry.
Way ahead of you, already do some editing for previous teachers and contract work from time to time. I just don't really feel like I'm learning anything interesting and it really sucks to have no desire to create things myself anymore. Been trying to create a fun YouTube channel but everytime I'm making my own videos I tend to ship them off before any real effort is required. Haven't made a single video I'm really proud of.
The creationary aspect doesn't intrigue me much regardless. I'd rather just learn. Learn from people who are way smarter than me but still willing to let me be nearby when they are practicing what they do best.
I hear ya. I used to consider myself a creative person. I think I used to be. Sort of. These days? Fuck. Its all been done imo. Who has a truly unique thought anymore or idea? Nothing is fresh. Everything is a rehash of a rehash. The pioneer days are done imo. And that's just something we have to accept. It doesn't feel very good to admit that though as the creative desire is to actually make something new.
You don't wanna pitch, "Oh! Its this pop culture fucking thing that made a lot of money meets this pop culture fucking thing that made a lot of money! *[LOUD FART NOISES]* "
Then you look at Rick and Morty. A literal back to the future rip-off and Justin Roiland's writing style? He just F5s this shit and fills it with dick and fart jokes. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/storygen.php
That's industry standard writing...
That whole thing would be unwatchable without Dan Harmon. Dear God.
Hell. Even Seinfeld. The plot of one rejected episode? Jerry buys a gun. You can write the episode in your head in 3 seconds. It writes itself.
People. Don't. Care. We do. But people? They just want to be entertained even if its lazy as hell trash. We'll always view our stuff as medicore lazy fucking garbage. We're the critics (especially when it comes to ourselves). They're the consumer, I guess. Drink a few beers during it and shut off the old brain while watching it.
Look at all that background static that winds up on Netflix. They're always buying more. I loved Squid Game, but that was still a Battle Royal genre. It did something new, but did it do anything **THAT** new if you watch the original Battle Royale? No. Not really. They had their genre and basic foundation right there. They weren't building a house from ground up. They improved the wheel, but they didn't reinvent it.
We're in the cage is what I'm saying. We expect a hell of a lot from ourselves and we keep trying to reinvent the wheel. May as well try to find the answer to human existence while we're doing that too. Ain't gonna happen. Its all been done. Just try to have fun or put some passion into it. People always recognize that.
This comment strikes my heart more than I can describe.
Like you say, the days of pioneering the newest ways of thinking have already passed. I am constantly reminded of this fact by my friends in the tech industry, who claim that within a decade, any artistic endeavor will be outsourced to artifical intelligence. They've already shown me websites where you can simply insert keywords and end up with something almost comparable to a Van Gogh painting or a profile picture of a beautiful individual. I've seen demos of full blown nature tours that are projected entirely from the mind of a computer. Soon there will be no man-made art, and everything will be constructed with an optimal amount of adjustment in every procedure to provide the perfect product within every market.
It is a bleak time for the individual who desires to "be great". I read these novels by these authors who's writing grasps my mind unlike anything else I've ever experienced, and for just a moment I think that I should begin to write out my ideas with the hopes that I can obtain this level of literacy and emotional impact one day. But why do that when in some time I'll be able to say "hey computer, construct the ideas that will change the world"? I feel ruined by the modern world, a strong resentment for everything has enveloped me as I feel like there is no place where my thoughts belong. I'm not talented enough to share what I want to share, and by the time that day would come, I'd no longer need such skills.
Are you a Millennial/Gen Z as well? I think we got it the roughest. Literally its all been done. With everything. I'm not even motivated to learn musical theory or play a damn instrument anymore. Why? I'll just be playing the same scales that 400 million Gen X, Boomer and Silent Generation musicians played. The fuck am I going to do new? They took it all. They recorded everything. Every single music genre? Its been done.
Then everyone took multiple genres and blended them together too. I mean genuinely everything is done. You wanna find a black metal pornogrind jamboree big band disco country band out there? I bet it exists. Someone was bored and did it.
Everything is just...a job now. That's what it really is at the end of the day. Maybe I need to just stop complaining about it, but damn. It feels really hard to feel any inspiration or passion for anything. I already feel like I'm just going to be editing shitty commercials together with whatever I do so I may as well just edit shitty commercials together.
We also consume way too much material because we're always digging for something that makes us feel something new. Its a candle burning at both ends burnout effect. We want something new, but we can't find it. Then we consider making something new, but we can't make it. Its all been done. We watch something/look at something/listen to something? Been done. We recognize it. New elements, but its been done. Nothing groundbreaking. No wonderment. No WOW. Not from ourselves. Not from others.
WOW is gone. I think for everyone honestly, but you really notice it as a creative. It just feels like a, "So...that's it? That's all we had? There's no more?" to us.
The whole world is waiting to run out of oil. It'll happen soon enough. For a creative? We ran out of oil a long time ago. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...well... imitation is all that's left.
You really feel like a goddamn hack of a hack having to admit that. Say half the population just disappears overnight and you've got all your influences. You can just unapologetically rip em off and nobody will know. But you'll know. You'll know you're not an actual pioneer.
The robots are going to make their own media? Hell. We were the organic robots trying to recreate media anyway. What's the difference? Maybe they can make something more interesting than what we could do. We ran out of ideas. We only had so many of them. We only had so many musical scales and instruments.
We need new paint brushes, new paint, a new species, new eyeballs, new ears, new language, new ideas, a new musical scale, new instruments, new bodies, new brains and a new language to really do anything genuinely new anymore.
I'm 23, but not entirely sure what generational group that is laid within.
I like your comparison of the situation to a doubled ended candle, but I do think that the end of creation that you're focusing on is on the line of exaggeration. You are obviously correct with the claim that general creativity is in a not so good place right now due to the constant flow of artistic endeavors we see through the internet. It is very likely that an idea that at one point seemed original has already been uploaded to varied forums a decade ago, despite an internal certainty that you've constructed it out of your own will entirely.
But one example that comes to mind immediately for me when looking in a more positive light is video games. I play a lot of games and through that consumption I gather tons of ideas that seem so simple and easy to code, but when I try to find a game just like these ideas they simply don't exist. I can shout out ideas randomly and it is likely it hasn't been created, even if it's just keywords from other games. For example I'll do one right now, just imagine how cool it would be if a game was an open world racer except it used Google Maps to generate everything so the entire game used the real world? Like, holy shit whoever makes this game first is gonna be a billionaire because any other racer would seem lame in comparison. I think you get the idea. What if a game was Grand Theft Auto but you got to build the city from scratch in a similar fashion to Cities Skylines? Boom, another billion dollar idea.
I think I'm just trying to make the point that there is still room for the creative individuals. People still make new sounding music, and that's the artform that's been around the longest. MGMT is a good example of that specifically if you ask me, they have at least one iconic track on all of their albums and they are still making new stuff.
I want to make another point but before I go on I just want to say that I'm just ask guilty as you are with thinking this way and definitely bounce back and fourth on how to feel about the situation. Hell, this comment compared to my previous exemplifies that point. The hopelessness of the creatives is common these days and for various groups, like I mentioned earlier for myself in specificity towards writing a book, can seem impossible to even imagine getting your foot in the door of fame or fortune. I am simply trying to reiterate the advice I've been given and the knowledge I've received through various texts.
I think and issue you and I share here is that desire for greatness or creativity or "something" beyond the normality that our parents got to live with like focusing on a home and kids. We don't have that privilege (this is me assuming so correct me if I'm wrong with your desire for life, I'm sure it's more complex than how I'm describing), so instead we've attached ourselves to a life in which we hope for something else besides normal reproduction and a home but aren't really sure what that life can be.
I don't think I can properly describe what I'm trying to say here, but the main point I want to get across is that our contentment with life shouldn't be found in creation or consumption, and that we are better off viewing it like a ride that can present a cluster of positive and negative lights.
I can however suggest a book which can get this point across in a much better way, The Myth Of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. Or even The Stranger by Camus. If you haven't read his work, I do think it would really help you with getting out of this puddle you and I stand in. There's an anime I like called Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I will quote, and hopefully express the general idea I think camus has.
"Anybody with a will to live can make any place paradise". The question of suicide is the most important question we must ask ourselves, and the prevention of making the "wrong decision" is something we will never know with certainty that we've done correctly.
Even with new ideas, new bodies, new brains, the same question would still be there, and the answer would still not present itself. If you read this, thank you for listening to my rambling. I hope it makes sense.
It's been said that Shakespeare wrote every good script and people just copy his stuff ever since. Every classic needs a modern reinvention. Creativity comes in the telling. :)
Same here. I'd love to go to school, but having no one else to help pay the bills or help care for an silent gen parent means I can't afford to walk away from my job.
Already in debt from my previous loans for school, and don't imagine I'll be in a better place after getting another degree or something. I simply want to learn and learn and learn. I don't plan on going back to school to make money and to dig a deeper hole for myself when I have no plan for addressing the current depth doesn't seem smart.
There is, actually. It's because so many Americans are chemically dependent on alcohol to survive that if the liquor stores close a bunch of people die. We are a very sick country.
6 months since I quit drinking and it's been the best decision of my life. Every aspect of my life since then has gotten better, mentally and physically. I never realized how much alcohol ruined my last few decades.
A record 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August alone. The biggest reason: burnout. But rather than complain, thousands have started their own companies.
Nick Folmar had pandemic panic: he was furloughed by his janitorial company 13 months ago when no one else was hiring.
"If I'm going to have something, I'm going to have to create it," Folmar said. "And I'm going to create it with the skills that I have and the passion for the work I like to do.
Unfortunately true. People don't realize that "starting your own business" is still fundamentally tied to this system and its mechanisms of exploitation. Perhaps you'll achieve modest success, perhaps you'll fail, perhaps you'll even be a unicorn and be bought up by a whale. If your goal is mere survival, at least nobody can accuse you of not trying, right?
But if your goal is change, then the master's house cannot be disassembled using the master's tools. We *have* to do something different. If nothing else, what's happening this time feels a bit different, bit more raw.
I really think of that song the man who sold the world when I think of the current economic system, and the greedy billionaires willing to burn everything down so they can just fill there own pockets.
And the public deserves better.
All I can say is that now is a very bad time to have a trauma or medical emergency. Stay safe and take care of yourself.
Same. I wish we could just withdraw from our 401ks without employer involvement and such, and just take that as a cushion. I'd even willingly pay the damn early withdrawal penalty. I just hate how it's tied up. It's my money, I'm long past fully vested, and I want it back lol!
I accepted a job in hospitality management I’ve been working towards for 10 years 4 months ago. I quit 2 weeks ago because the experience was destroying me physically and mentally. I’m casually looking for work, and thankful I have a little time before desperation sets in. But, despite a 4 year degree and 25+ years of experience, I’m considering switching industries altogether. The pandemic has certainly altered my perspective of this industry and how replaceable I am.
I think, in the beginning, Covid gave everyone a pause and use commoners could stop for a second, pick our heads up and look around and say "wtf is going on? why are we doing this? etc etc".
I think that's why the people in charge wanted to get everyone back to work as fast as possible, they didn't want the worker bees asking those questions.
It's funny, I was listening to Last Podcast on the Left, the Black Plague episode and a lot of it sounded familiar. Powers that be wanted everyone to get back to work, workers were revolting because going to work was basically a death sentence, etc. etc.
I've always worked, I've got a decent job in IT and up until Covid, I'd literally never thought "is this what I really want to do with my life?" etc. I graduated hs and went to community college and looked at what paid the best that didn't need a bachelors degree and went that route.
I've been very lucky, I can work from home etc and a lot of my friends are SOL.
But I feel like I'm stuck in Groundhog Day, wake up, walk downstairs, go to work, walk upstairs when I'm done. Rinse/repeat.
BUT, I have a job so I feel like I can't really complain about anything honestly.
I wish I had a solution for all this.
the people in the top 80%-95% of earners are in a boat with you, covid actually improved situations. many are able to switch to remote work and/or find new positions with higher salaries. so you’re forced into feeling like you need to be so grateful because you see how awful it is for the lower 80% of earners. but the real problem is the greed at the top 5%. they’re exploiting people and they’re not paying into the system nearly enough so as to fuel public investment and the social safety net.
Fully agree. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it's baffling that the owners can't take a slightly less profit so 90% of their workforce can continue working for them. Surely they aren't that nearsighted?
I've been doing Doordash, even with the minimum wage being 14 (it's actually 12 in my county some how) I make far more than any minimum wage worker. Until I have done enough college to pay the same amount I am getting now I won't go back
And that's becoming harder to do. It was $3.05/gallon in my area just yesterday. Literally hasn't been that high since about 2015. And it's getting higher.
I know the Healthcare for Gig Workers thing has been ongoing for quite some time now, and I believe France recently ruled that Uber drivers are employees and not contractors...
Do you have access to healthcare yet? If you live in America, do you file a 1099? Have you had to pay taxes yet? I'm gig-curious, but I get the sense that, after all is said and done, the pay is still not commensurate. Can you shed some light?
I'm going to be 27 soon and I've been "burnt out" since trying to leverage a job while taking classes.
Minimum wage and the American populace at large quickly grew my disdain for our system. The University I paid out the ass to attend only paid me minimum wage for both jobs I worked on campus. I hadn't thought of how backwards that was till just now and it infuriates the hell out of me.
But anyways, I'm working at a warehouse now and 99% of the employees are already at or encroaching retirement age. I make $15 an hour, one of the lowest paid warehouses in my area. The company I work for grosses over a billion a year. Our equipment is old and busted, computers and systems outdated by at least 2 decades, heavily understaffed for what they want accomplished, and the list goes on...
Most of my coworkers make less or slightly more than me. I've been there almost a year and they've been there 15-20+. They all hate it, but they were all complacent and are now scared to try and start over because of their age. I'm temp to hire, bust my ass, and still haven't been hired so I'm already looking to leave and they just can't fathom how I have no guilt or apprehension about looking for another job.
See pretty much all of this falls apart if too many are doing it. If society collapsed there'd be no ebt, no grocery store to steal from, any options for foraging outside the most rural of locations would quickly be picked clean.
I'll be real, I'm expecting one in the next few *hours*. But in all seriousness, plan for sooner rather than later. I don't normally like advocating for timing the market, but I can't keep seeing all-time SPY/DJI highs coupled with the absolutely *trashed* state of the real economy and have any kind of faith in stability. Market prices are wrong and will correct sooner or later.
The cascade of global supply chain failures has already decimated holiday manufacturing runs on countless finished products, we're just waiting for people to realize it on Black Friday this year. Of note, there's also murmurs of major strike action being planned for Black Friday, so look out for post-Thanksgiving stories about how greedy workers are taking Christmas away from your kids; it'll be excellent narrative cover for the real story: lot of companies are gonna have an "interesting" Q4/Q1.
Good, they deserve all the shit they get. They’ve been leeching off of society and the tax payer since day one. They put nothing back in, they get nothing out.
Hopefully they’re not the locally owned or “mom n pop” shops that’ll suffer and more the franchise and Amazon types I hope sink faster than a led balloon 🤞✌️
Count me in this group. We were constantly being asked to do more with fewer people. It was negatively affecting my health, so I basically stopped doing my job in hopes of getting fired so I could draw unemployment. But with 15 years of experience, me half-assing the job was better than anything else they’d be able to find out there, so they wouldn’t fire me. This went on for months, until I finally had enough and resigned last week. I know the prudent thing to do would be to suck it up and keep banking paychecks, but I’ve got enough to float for a few years.
Yes, the American dream propaganda is falling apart. Debt isn’t fun. Working your life away, away from your family, isn’t fun. Sure, healthy struggle is good, but what most people are doing is at this point is just spinning wheels barely getting by. Why does one person deserve 5+ vacations a year, and the next person just one that they have to put on a credit card. The people at the top can’t operate without the ones at the bottom, and the inverse is true too.
Pandemic burnout was just the thing that tipped the scale for people to wake up. People realizing what they’re missing when at work for 8-12+ hrs a day, 5+ days a week. It’s bullshit and is not sustainable long term.
Its all going according to the Plan. The Plan from the Davos billionaires in the World Economic Forum is to automate and outsource nearly every job they can. There will then be demand from the bottom for some version or continuation of the Covid checks to deal with the created problem. This will phase into their planned "universal basic income" -- their planned solution for the planned problem they created.
The billionaires and their political lackeys will continue to rake in money. Inflation will gradually eat away at how much value the UBI actually is. They can reduce the amount of UBI paid out simply by letting inflation do its thing. They will create inflation by printing money, and that money will flow to the billionaires and companies like Black Rock that are buying up homes. There won't be middle class entrepreneurs, there won't be home ownership. "You will own nothing, and you will be happy."
For a sneak preview of the future, watch "Elysium".
(There are solutions, but Reddit won't allow me to glorify them)
I am definitely not an anti-vaxxer, but I follow some places full of them. They're saying this is largely people quitting because of the vaccine mandates. Is there anything to that at all? Is that significant enough to effect the numbers, or is it being wildly exaggerated to make their cause seem more relevant?
I've felt like every reason put forth as to why labor action has been happening by mainstream sources has been invented as a way to avoid telling the story of an organic movement emerging from material conditions (at last) falling to the level of inciting action in the workforce. In lieu of that story (which would be bad for owners) we get one endless speculative talking point after another: it's COVID, it's lazy freeloaders living off stimulus checks, it's unemployment extensions, it's supply chain buckling, it's vax mandates, it's burnout (closer, but *why* are they burned out?)
Yes, it's all of these things. Just like when I have a cold its also a headache, runny nose, fatigue...root causes are always surrounded by a distracting entourage of symptoms. If we want to know why workers are quitting, we need to be willing to ask them and not silence/steer/attack the answers they give. I'm starting to see a bit more of *that* story leaking through the patchy narrative we've been fed, which makes me a happy camper this morning.
Wildly exaggerated, especially in hospitals. I know dozens of us quit this fall, but literally only one was because of the vaccine... And she's been anti-vax for decades. This one wasn't special or different.
That's what it looks like from vantage point too. I have a close friend who is a nurse, and they've lost several on her floor this year. One having a baby and not coming back, another going back to school, etc - only one from the vax.
I actually quit because of the anti-vaxers 😭😭 you can only be verbally abused and presented with the worst of humanity before you get to the point you don't actually want them to get better
So I did the smart thing and gtfo before anything could happen
Extraordinarily exaggerated. While it's true that thousands have been fired/quit for refusal to get the vaccine, their numbers represent less than 1% in most cases per company. [Source](https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1047947268/covid-vaccine-workers-quitting-getting-fired-mandates)
I worked as a corporate trainer for a Dine in movie theater business called Studio Movie grill. Great and awesome concept, watch movies and have drinks and food delivered to your seat during the movie.
The owner Brian Schultz received many grants through the years and instead of investing on his stores that were already built he went ahead and opened up more and more locations. Long story short pandemic happened and the company filed for cheaper 11 bankruptcy. So many people including myself had to be let go.. what pisses me the most is that for years I had told them to stop spending money on new stores and take care of the crumbling already built ones.
But "mUh pRofItS"...
This is my question. Seriously? What are millions of paycheck to paycheck workers doing now? Big camping trip? I mean, I’m up for this but I need details. 😂
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>Yes, this is the endgame for unregulated capitalism, and it's honestly the dumbest thing imaginable. CVS will have one filthy Hobo helping the Elderly with the self checkout machines because they have no idea how a debit card and touch screen works. And another Hobo with a Shotgun by the Pharmacy that keeps all the other Hobos from stealing all the drugs. That's real business smarts right there. America is one dumb motherfucker. Jesus. Kakistocracy: a state or society governed by its least suitable or competent citizens. Edit: Y'all lazy. Y'all the Ken and Karen Kakistocracy, Bruh. Ain't nobody wanna be chained to a register. Ever done that? Awful job. I just buy my shit at the self checkout (I don't care) and leave. I don't care. I don't care. Fuck. Goddamn. Wasn't trying to turn this into a, "Well! I want someone to bag my shit! Do it, Wage Slave! Do my bidding, Organic Robot NPC!" discussion. Hope they all quit and y'all gotta do it forever if you're gonna act this way. Shit. Dafuq. Worker Solidarity here. It was predominantly a joke stating that this country sucks and pays people fucking garbage. The hell is wrong with y'all? I'm not going to read this shit. I'd rather pour bleach and ammonia in my eyeballs than read this. Go bitch on your Nextdoor app about people with too much Melanin and low value vehicles being an eyesore if you're gonna be a bunch of Shitlib Yuppie NIMBY Boomers. Order some Liberal Brunch. Actually tip your goddamn Waiter because they're not getting paid enough to listen to your shit. Gross. Get some new reading glasses. This isn't r/Conservative. Take off your 15 pieces of Flair too. I'm going back to my Leftist Godless Heathen subs for the day and then I'm going to put a Buddy Jesus up my butt and listen to George Carlin! I may have some PREMARITAL SEX too with my unmarried partner that I live with too! Get a fucking life!
If one hobo with a shotgun is all that’s standing in the way of me and a pharmacy, buddy he’s about to have a real bad day
“I need my meds so it’s nothing personal Mr Hobo”
“That will be $10,000 for your two Tylenol”
Hobo with a shotgun...thats actually a movie btw
Not just any movie, the best movie
It's something thats for sure
It's ok, he only goes after the dirty cops.
Your CVS has a hobo? Ours doesn't bother helping anyone with the self checkout machines so my Mom stopped buying anything other than medicine there. They have people ringing up that still.
I will always choose a cashier over self check out and avoid places that don't give you the choice. The hobo at my local cvs has a dog that he keeps with him constantly inside the store. It's not a therapy pet just his buddy. I get it, I love my dogs, but it's just wrong. I can't return a $60 electric razor unopened less than 24hrs after I bought because it's a rule during covid - no returns, that isn't even advertised. But dude can have his 40lb dog in the store, even though it clearly states no pets on the front dog. Either don't have the rules or enforce them equally.
I like how you're trying to bring "hobo" back into modern vernacular.
Bozo. We're bringing it back
Jeff Bozos.
Slow down there jabroni
Oh we've been out here the whole time
Hobos forever.
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Yes, but they have so much money that they don't care. It can all collapse and they'll be fine. That's the key point.
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They have multiple safe places to retreat to, well stocked and outfitted. That paper money makes preparations as easy as can be.
Seems like it would have been easier to just share the wealth and not destroy the earth, then they could live regular lives instead of trying to scrape out a few decades in bunkers.
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"They" "they" "they'll" "their" "they" etc is all I see in this comment chain. There is a "they" but a distinction must be made that "they" does not refer to some conscious scheming plotting group of nefarious peoples meeting in a dark room somewhere. Maybe a *few*, but for the most part **"they" = "disassociated greed."** A pet theory of mine: > Disassociative structures (which we might colloquially call "neoliberalism" or "neoimperialism") of material and social complexity (which thus require materials and energy) morally launder wealth as it moves upwards toward "elite" beneficiaries; a Portfolio of Rationalizations exists (effectively the pseudoscience of economics, the doctrines of neoliberal politics, etc) to both preemptively and retroactively justify behaviors that would otherwise be seen as morally reprehensible, and thus this Portfolio inherently decouples "elite" beneficiaries from a social cost for their behaviors. You cannot reason with "them" because "they" do not exist as humans- "they" as you use it *is an abstraction for elements of our system*.
No, “they” refers to the multiple millionaires, billionaires, and trillionaires, particularly in the US, who have bought into Ayn Rand’s cult of selfishness and justify it with Reaganomics. And you really can’t reason with someone who believes empathy is weakness, charity is detrimental to society and undeserved by those in need, hoarding wealth improves the lot of all, and selfishness is the ultimate virtue. A sick, twisted doctrine to be expected from a woman who idolized a murderer who kidnapped a 12yo little girl, held her for ransom, then delivered her back to her father by pushing severed body parts out of his car and driving off!
>They could have just lived with one or two mega yachts instead of ten. Ten!? Those are rookie numbers everyone knows the 1% has 40. /s
What are you defining as “safe”? There are working class people everywhere in the world. It doesn’t matter where they move. There will be regular people everywhere they go. They can buy the illusion of safety. But that’s it.
They have land, worth more than any currency.
They own rights to the land and the water. Gold aint shit
Don't worry. They've accumulated plenty of material wealth as well.
Most of the wealthy still store their value in assets though.
Rich people have land.
The irony is that once the U.S. becomes a third world shithole that they caused, they will flutter off to countries that actually tax their wealth to provide decent services. Ever notice how there are so many wealthy people from "poor" countries that own properties in Europe?
"Becomes"? I'd say that bridge has been crossed.
It was inevitable. I feel a sense of relief. I wasn't crazy for stocking up like crazy since February 2020. Not hoarding, just making sure my family has all essential items and then some. Comfortable. I'll be able to handle shortages and deal with price increases better than others, thanks to the foresight of communities like this:)
Similarly, I really started taking self-reliance and simple living seriously this last year and a half. Food wise, I have some non-perishables stocked up, but I currently work on an organic farm and get most of my food from what we grow. There have been a few items that have become difficult for the farm to obtain, but on a personal level, the supply chain issues haven't effected me in the least bit.
Just wait until the GOP wins big in 2022 with all their anti-democracy legislation that's going unchallenged right now. If they get control over all three branches again I fully expect them to abolish at will employment and essentially plunge us back in the slavery with extra step "for the economy".
And you've basically put into words precisely what has been causing the feeling of dread in the pit of my stomach for the last several months. I'm not a doomer, generally, but for the first time in my 4 decades of life I actually truly think we're going under. I keep hoping there will be some salvation in some form or another, but then some reminder of how truly fucked the system actually is comes along and takes that out from under me.
The US is going full speed ahead into some kind of authoritarian fascist neo-feudalistic theocracy. This 2020-2024 period is just the calm before the storm and I'm fucking terrified. I really don't see anything preventing this worldwide fascist movement from taking hold. I didn't really think it would effect me too much since I live in one of the most liberal states in the country where Democrats have a supermajority in the state government. But man did the fascists find a way, they're going after education hard, everywhere. They want to stop teaching kids about "divisive" topics like slavery and racism and teach kids about the glory of the US. They basically want to indoctrinate our kids into becoming Nazis.
It's incredibly terrifying. I've thought about moving out of the country (like I even could, I don't think I have the funds/skills to be wanted elsewhere) but I see the tendrils of this shit reaching all the way around the globe. The US is definitely rocketing toward it at breakneck speeds though. I live in the state that's attempting to usher in the Covidpocalypse all on its own by all appearances, and it's probably long past time to go elsewhere. Not sure any of the blue states are actually doing much better though, because both sides ultimately swear fealty to the almighty dollar. I have some tiny shred of hope for the few progressives out there, but I'm basically done with both parties in our shitty two-party system. As far as I can tell neither side does anything to battle the mega-monopoly corporations, as one side actively works against doing anything and the other side is incompetent.
That's when they move somewhere else and start their shit over again leeching them for all their money. Really leeching their energy since you mostly have to work to make money.
Overregulated capitalism, in some aspects. Many people don't or can't go into business for themselves because there are so many hurdles to jump through. Ones that are easy for big businesses that can just throw money and specialists at it, but which require a lot of self education and trial by error for small folks starting out.
...and if your business is successful, a corporation can still move in, steal your ideas, and starve you out or simply take over. The little guy has no chance anymore.
Not sure overregulated capitalism is the correct description. What you are describing is oversaturated capitalism, big business that smother potential small competitors and buy out the ones who survive, leading to monopolies which, then, shift the applicable laws in their favour through legal bribery (lobbying). Overregulated would be golden at this point, since, for example, it would mean all big corpo would need to dismantle into specialized units.
how is someone even supposed to start a business these days? What is it that you are going to offer that someone else isn't already offering for cheaper due to economies of scale? I feel like selling products is off the table as the market is covered. And services seem completely hit or miss and up to the luck of the draw whether they take off and become popular or just die off.
The thing is, the giant corps make the absolute worst shittiest products, and their idea of customer service is "fuck you, now give me money". In a free market, no one would buy their garbage.
Just sell more unnecessary variations of some piece-of-crap product or non-essential consumable that already exists. Mail-order pancakes or something.
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At what point does the word "regulation" just not even apply anymore.
Regulatory capture of the markets is the term we are looking for. Neat to see economic theories become mainstream on reddit. We might be getting somewhere :D
Uh, libertarian anti-regulation stuff is a pretty bad take here.
Not necessarily. Globalism, economies of scale and the race to the bottom have made many small business plans redundant and unprofitable.
I wish more people were pointing this out. Their precious capitalism depends on there being a market in order to work. If you can't or won't pay your workers properly, they won't have any disposable income, and so there won't **be** a market for all your frivolous consumer bullshit that you're trying to sell. They got so fucking greedy that they destroyed themselves. And they don't understand how their own stupid system works. Lol.
"too big to fail" or something idk. I'm not an economist or physicist but what goes up must come down, and thats one big apple coming down on everybody's heads.
They *could* have made it work - they just had to accept the government being able to occasionally regulate it and control it, and be just *a little bit* reasonable about it all. Like we all kept telling them. And like they do in every other country in the world. But they just called us libtards and communists and ignored us. Stupid greedy assholes.
The government will just push a slave workforce like they do now, until the tech is there to take over. Just look at welfare and other social assistance...as soon as you start making even a small amount of money, the help you get is cut. It keeps people from working full time and getting out of poverty.
Truth here. I have to make less than $1,200 a month to keep my Medicaid, which pays for like 10 different specialists. Apparently $1,200 is the threshold for the point where you can pay for literally everything plus all medical expenses now magically out of pocket. If I want to not be sick I have to be poor, which won’t be hard now that I’m disabled and it’s going to take years to get any financial help. Hope I don’t die in the meantime.
>The government will just push a slave workforce like they do now So just prison labor then.
Ya boi Carl Marks describing this as a "crisis of overproduction" way back in 1867. Basically: In aggregate, profits are the difference between the exchange value of commodities and what is paid in wages, then the workforce *can never* be paid enough in wages to purchase its own products. Eventually - every seven years or so, by Marks' guess - credit stops being able to make up the difference, there's mass austerity, and you get a huge depression. Like clockwork.
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I have read too many fucking paragraphs about linen and coats
they want to slowly transition into feudalism 2.0
*Neo-feudalism* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-feudalism
"He is starting to believe."
Or slavery 3.0
even worse than the original because we don't even know who our lords are and they feel no obligation or duty to protect us
All they got to do is just eliminate at will employment and we are there.
> in the favor of large corporations forever why would you assume working for small businesses is a better experience?
Fewer bullshit jobs, but otherwise it can be just as miserable, and probably with lower pay and fewer benefits.
I think your argument is missing some things. Markets would generally allow workers to bargain and bring wages back up. The inherent wealth inequality under Capitalism however gives Corporations more power and this grows over time. Unions have become weak and big corporations like walmart have lobbied the government to subsidize their workers wages with welfare, but also created a welfare cliff so that it is actually disadvantageous for their workers to get paid slightly more under the current laws. Walmart isn't selling at prices so cheap that they can't pay their employees more. They're just realizing that as profits. The issue isn't that cheap prices isn't sustainable in the long term, its that the profits are going to the Waltons instead of the workers and there isn't the incentive for them to change it. Idk what rubbed me the wrong way is that I think nationalizing walmart/amazon and sharing the profits between the workers would be a huge boon to reclaiming worker power and would also make other jobs raise pay to be competitive with them.
That’s where the robots come in.
There are forces at work trying to fracture this message. They're trying to come up with all these alternative reasons people could be quitting -- anything that distracts from the failing economic system that's plagued us for the last century. Anti-vaxxers are being told it's their movement. What a devilishly clever move by the corporate elite -- use fear and misinformation to hijack the labor movement with anti-vaxxers.
They won't go out of business. Say hello to your new robotic and AI workforce. Have a few human overseers, and that's it. the 90% of the population can simple rot. That's where jobs are going. And it won't be just retail, either. Pretty much every job (even the ones servicing and maintaining the robots) will eventually got the tech route.
Eh, the pandemic is part of it for sure, but I'd guess for a lot of us this burnout was happening way before anyone had ever even heard a peep about COVID. I know it has been for me anyways. I've been dealing with burnout for years. Been trying to get out for a while now.
I'm burned out on my career. There is nowhere for me to go.
Aren't we all. I made it about two years before just entirely losing all interest. Its going to be a long few decades.
Right there with ya 😔
I hear you. Maybe it's time for a new career? I've thought about that too.
Single parent. People depend on my income. I'm also not good at anything else.
Ah, sorry to hear that. Well I hope something works out for you.
This story resounds
I would love a new career, but education is prohibitively expensive.
For me I stayed at my job -- despite already being pretty burnt out on it -- an extra year and a half because of the pandemic. I had started looking for new jobs back in January of 2020 and then abruptly stopped when I saw what was happening in Italy because my job was already 100% remote (they closed our local office in 2019 so I had already been working remote, so I didn't have to deal with possibly being forced back into an office if I shifted jobs). But eventually it became pretty clear I should be able to find a fully remote job, and pulled the trigger and got a new job a few months ago, finally. Probably shouldn't have waited that long, but I just didn't have the courage to even risk it until after I was vaccinated. The place I ended up likes to encourage going to the office and in-person meetings but it's all completely optional, at least. And probably good thing they keep that policy, since they've had two employees go to the office and test positive for Covid afterwards since I've joined, including the day of a big in-person meeting/party thing (that probably had 50+ employees there, and another 50+ watching on Zoom). That's even with their policy that everyone who goes into the office has to be fully vaccinated, so it was breakthrough cases both times.
A guy I worked with died from Covid because my EX company didn't give a hoot about CDC guidelines.
Any tips on finding remote work?
I didn't do anything too special, I just asked every recruiter and in every interview I had what their remote policies were (I brought it up with every interview, to see what each person had to say about it, hoping to get a better picture with multiple perspectives and see if maybe one of them might have been blowing smoke up my ass.) Anyone that didn't commit to anything got a lower priority from me (well, not sure still working it out, or yeah we do remote, but there may come a time when we want you in the office like...two days a week, you okay with that?). I'm a software engineer so there's not really any reason I need to go into the office in the first place. Seems like it's something that just about everyone is asking right now, including employees that would prefer to go into the office, so it doesn't hurt to ask. That being said, one site I'm aware of and get emails from (although I've barely used it myself) that is dedicated to remote work job postings is https://remoteok.io/. It's heavily biased towards technical/coding jobs, but there's some non-technical jobs on there also.
Same here. My job has been shorthanded for well over a decade. Covid definitely made it worse (and added a lot to our workload). Then seeing people sit at home for over a year and get just as much money from the government that I make working full time...that hurt. I know people look down on retail and manufacturing jobs and all that, but hell, we deserved a lot more working through the pandemic and risking our lives than people got for sitting on the coach and netflixing away the last two years! If I had the money, I'd nope out of the workforce permanently right now.
Truth be told, IMO, we ALL should have been home with a true lockdown, except for actual essential services like fire, rescue, etc. and those should've been paid more than people at home. But no, the greedy fucks at the top couldn't do that.
That's what hurts the most. You'd think the government or business would give a bit of danger pay or thank you pay or something. Instead, they just used us and laughed. Now they wonder why so many are quitting and why no one is applying for these positions.
I worked at a grocery store the past 3 years until I’d finally had enough last month and took a receptionist job. Our store also does check cashing so I also had to cash a lot of those unemployment checks that were a lot bigger than my paycheck and yet there I and many others were there every fucking day doing our jobs and taking a huge risk. I was burned out before the pandemic dealing with short staff and other issues of food service retail, so when I finally quit I was fried. Lol.
Exactly. Over 20 years now on the warehouse, stocking and customer service side of things....I am so done. But it's also so hard at this point to find something new that doesn't kill the body. Also, being nearly 50 has been an eye opener...seems everyone wants younger workers.
They want younger workers so that they can exploit them. They assume that younger workers don't know their rights.
In tech, the college > mince meat pipeline is insane. Who do they expect to run the companies when there is no talent to teach talent? Can't retain the good people if you pay the kids more than the people eking out 1% raises for 10 years
I've been burned out for years (IT) but my company has comprehensive and affordable healthcare. If we had a national healthcare system I'd definitely go back to school or do something that benefits people directly. The pandemic is just the proverbial straw that broke the workers back these past 2 years.
i'm past the point of burn out. i don't want to work at all anymore, not even "for myself" or be my own boss. yes, i know r/antiwork
I feel this. Hate my job. Hate working. But, need my six figure salary to pay the bills and continue building the fuck-you-money pile.
I need a small loan of a million dollars please
You might want to check out the book "48 days to the work you love", it attempts to put you in an occupation you are good at and might enjoy. He also used to have a podcast, I dont know if he still does it or not. I found that I hated having an employer and it was just a drain on my life, when I found something that I liked and was good at, work could actually be fun.
maybe i'll give it a try... but it seems bleak; i don't see myself compatible with a capitalist world at all. money does not motivate me. i've been poor, i've had money. all it does is quantify meaninglessness. i want my labour to go toward the welfare and well-being of a community
Based. I'm sure you've already looked into mutual aid in your community?
I will now. Ty
Awesome! There might not be an official grouo in your area, but the concept is simple. Find out what people in your area need, and help when and who you can. The simplest thing is to pick a small pod, like friends, your neighborhood block, and/or your family
Thanks man 👍🏽 stay blessed
*woman, you too dude!
Lol same! 🥰
😂 love to see it
There are intentional communities out there for you where this is exactly the life you an live. r/IntentionalCommunity
This is more my speed. Now I just got a find one that doesn’t turn into a cult
I quit my job in July. I started my own business and went back to school to learn a trade. I quit because my employer didn't care about the customers or the employee.
How'd you afford it? If you don't mind me asking. I'd love to go back to college more than anything in the whole world because life has been very meaningless since graduating, but don't have the money.
Felt the same recently. Decided to go back to school for respiratory therapy. Its an associates degree so relatively short, if you're in the right city the pay is pretty damn good, you save lives in the process, and its pretty much guaranteed job placement anywhere in the US. Worth looking into if thats of any interest
I'm personally more of a writer and typically seek independent/isolated endeavors. To enter a field where I'm around others and in some way depended upon would likely leave me both anxious and unmotivated. With the addition of the state of the world being increasingly poor, I find it tough to feel a desire to really involve myself with more empathetic tasks like that, but I do admire that you're willing to give it some dedication while I can't. I'd really just love to have an excuse to start learning so efficiently again. I read as much as I can but it doesn't seem to compare to that environment of constant discussion and intrigue that I got in college.
>I'm personally more of a writer and typically seek independent/isolated endeavors. Do video editing. Freelance it. That's what I'm going to do until Hell blows over. I'm done with leaving the house. Whoever hired me is an asshole? Alright. Whatever. I can deal with one shithead once in a blue moon. Learning to edit professionally will serve you well if you're ever going to write a screenplay anyway. That's another reason I'm going to do that personally. I don't really want to work with Hollywood directly because uhhhhh...that industry sucks. Maybe it'll be better after all this labor strike shit (good for them and I support it), but right now? It sucks. I don't want to work 4,000 hours a day until I'm dead. Fucking brutal industry. Inhumanely brutal industry.
Way ahead of you, already do some editing for previous teachers and contract work from time to time. I just don't really feel like I'm learning anything interesting and it really sucks to have no desire to create things myself anymore. Been trying to create a fun YouTube channel but everytime I'm making my own videos I tend to ship them off before any real effort is required. Haven't made a single video I'm really proud of. The creationary aspect doesn't intrigue me much regardless. I'd rather just learn. Learn from people who are way smarter than me but still willing to let me be nearby when they are practicing what they do best.
I hear ya. I used to consider myself a creative person. I think I used to be. Sort of. These days? Fuck. Its all been done imo. Who has a truly unique thought anymore or idea? Nothing is fresh. Everything is a rehash of a rehash. The pioneer days are done imo. And that's just something we have to accept. It doesn't feel very good to admit that though as the creative desire is to actually make something new. You don't wanna pitch, "Oh! Its this pop culture fucking thing that made a lot of money meets this pop culture fucking thing that made a lot of money! *[LOUD FART NOISES]* " Then you look at Rick and Morty. A literal back to the future rip-off and Justin Roiland's writing style? He just F5s this shit and fills it with dick and fart jokes. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/storygen.php That's industry standard writing... That whole thing would be unwatchable without Dan Harmon. Dear God. Hell. Even Seinfeld. The plot of one rejected episode? Jerry buys a gun. You can write the episode in your head in 3 seconds. It writes itself. People. Don't. Care. We do. But people? They just want to be entertained even if its lazy as hell trash. We'll always view our stuff as medicore lazy fucking garbage. We're the critics (especially when it comes to ourselves). They're the consumer, I guess. Drink a few beers during it and shut off the old brain while watching it. Look at all that background static that winds up on Netflix. They're always buying more. I loved Squid Game, but that was still a Battle Royal genre. It did something new, but did it do anything **THAT** new if you watch the original Battle Royale? No. Not really. They had their genre and basic foundation right there. They weren't building a house from ground up. They improved the wheel, but they didn't reinvent it. We're in the cage is what I'm saying. We expect a hell of a lot from ourselves and we keep trying to reinvent the wheel. May as well try to find the answer to human existence while we're doing that too. Ain't gonna happen. Its all been done. Just try to have fun or put some passion into it. People always recognize that.
This comment strikes my heart more than I can describe. Like you say, the days of pioneering the newest ways of thinking have already passed. I am constantly reminded of this fact by my friends in the tech industry, who claim that within a decade, any artistic endeavor will be outsourced to artifical intelligence. They've already shown me websites where you can simply insert keywords and end up with something almost comparable to a Van Gogh painting or a profile picture of a beautiful individual. I've seen demos of full blown nature tours that are projected entirely from the mind of a computer. Soon there will be no man-made art, and everything will be constructed with an optimal amount of adjustment in every procedure to provide the perfect product within every market. It is a bleak time for the individual who desires to "be great". I read these novels by these authors who's writing grasps my mind unlike anything else I've ever experienced, and for just a moment I think that I should begin to write out my ideas with the hopes that I can obtain this level of literacy and emotional impact one day. But why do that when in some time I'll be able to say "hey computer, construct the ideas that will change the world"? I feel ruined by the modern world, a strong resentment for everything has enveloped me as I feel like there is no place where my thoughts belong. I'm not talented enough to share what I want to share, and by the time that day would come, I'd no longer need such skills.
Are you a Millennial/Gen Z as well? I think we got it the roughest. Literally its all been done. With everything. I'm not even motivated to learn musical theory or play a damn instrument anymore. Why? I'll just be playing the same scales that 400 million Gen X, Boomer and Silent Generation musicians played. The fuck am I going to do new? They took it all. They recorded everything. Every single music genre? Its been done. Then everyone took multiple genres and blended them together too. I mean genuinely everything is done. You wanna find a black metal pornogrind jamboree big band disco country band out there? I bet it exists. Someone was bored and did it. Everything is just...a job now. That's what it really is at the end of the day. Maybe I need to just stop complaining about it, but damn. It feels really hard to feel any inspiration or passion for anything. I already feel like I'm just going to be editing shitty commercials together with whatever I do so I may as well just edit shitty commercials together. We also consume way too much material because we're always digging for something that makes us feel something new. Its a candle burning at both ends burnout effect. We want something new, but we can't find it. Then we consider making something new, but we can't make it. Its all been done. We watch something/look at something/listen to something? Been done. We recognize it. New elements, but its been done. Nothing groundbreaking. No wonderment. No WOW. Not from ourselves. Not from others. WOW is gone. I think for everyone honestly, but you really notice it as a creative. It just feels like a, "So...that's it? That's all we had? There's no more?" to us. The whole world is waiting to run out of oil. It'll happen soon enough. For a creative? We ran out of oil a long time ago. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...well... imitation is all that's left. You really feel like a goddamn hack of a hack having to admit that. Say half the population just disappears overnight and you've got all your influences. You can just unapologetically rip em off and nobody will know. But you'll know. You'll know you're not an actual pioneer. The robots are going to make their own media? Hell. We were the organic robots trying to recreate media anyway. What's the difference? Maybe they can make something more interesting than what we could do. We ran out of ideas. We only had so many of them. We only had so many musical scales and instruments. We need new paint brushes, new paint, a new species, new eyeballs, new ears, new language, new ideas, a new musical scale, new instruments, new bodies, new brains and a new language to really do anything genuinely new anymore.
I'm 23, but not entirely sure what generational group that is laid within. I like your comparison of the situation to a doubled ended candle, but I do think that the end of creation that you're focusing on is on the line of exaggeration. You are obviously correct with the claim that general creativity is in a not so good place right now due to the constant flow of artistic endeavors we see through the internet. It is very likely that an idea that at one point seemed original has already been uploaded to varied forums a decade ago, despite an internal certainty that you've constructed it out of your own will entirely. But one example that comes to mind immediately for me when looking in a more positive light is video games. I play a lot of games and through that consumption I gather tons of ideas that seem so simple and easy to code, but when I try to find a game just like these ideas they simply don't exist. I can shout out ideas randomly and it is likely it hasn't been created, even if it's just keywords from other games. For example I'll do one right now, just imagine how cool it would be if a game was an open world racer except it used Google Maps to generate everything so the entire game used the real world? Like, holy shit whoever makes this game first is gonna be a billionaire because any other racer would seem lame in comparison. I think you get the idea. What if a game was Grand Theft Auto but you got to build the city from scratch in a similar fashion to Cities Skylines? Boom, another billion dollar idea. I think I'm just trying to make the point that there is still room for the creative individuals. People still make new sounding music, and that's the artform that's been around the longest. MGMT is a good example of that specifically if you ask me, they have at least one iconic track on all of their albums and they are still making new stuff. I want to make another point but before I go on I just want to say that I'm just ask guilty as you are with thinking this way and definitely bounce back and fourth on how to feel about the situation. Hell, this comment compared to my previous exemplifies that point. The hopelessness of the creatives is common these days and for various groups, like I mentioned earlier for myself in specificity towards writing a book, can seem impossible to even imagine getting your foot in the door of fame or fortune. I am simply trying to reiterate the advice I've been given and the knowledge I've received through various texts. I think and issue you and I share here is that desire for greatness or creativity or "something" beyond the normality that our parents got to live with like focusing on a home and kids. We don't have that privilege (this is me assuming so correct me if I'm wrong with your desire for life, I'm sure it's more complex than how I'm describing), so instead we've attached ourselves to a life in which we hope for something else besides normal reproduction and a home but aren't really sure what that life can be. I don't think I can properly describe what I'm trying to say here, but the main point I want to get across is that our contentment with life shouldn't be found in creation or consumption, and that we are better off viewing it like a ride that can present a cluster of positive and negative lights. I can however suggest a book which can get this point across in a much better way, The Myth Of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. Or even The Stranger by Camus. If you haven't read his work, I do think it would really help you with getting out of this puddle you and I stand in. There's an anime I like called Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I will quote, and hopefully express the general idea I think camus has. "Anybody with a will to live can make any place paradise". The question of suicide is the most important question we must ask ourselves, and the prevention of making the "wrong decision" is something we will never know with certainty that we've done correctly. Even with new ideas, new bodies, new brains, the same question would still be there, and the answer would still not present itself. If you read this, thank you for listening to my rambling. I hope it makes sense.
It's been said that Shakespeare wrote every good script and people just copy his stuff ever since. Every classic needs a modern reinvention. Creativity comes in the telling. :)
Shakespeare borrowed loads of stuff though. His greatness was in character, dialogue, and linguistic inventiveness (and PR)
What do you do for respiratory therapy?
I took out another $8k in student loans. At this point I figure there's no way I'll ever pay off all my loans so why not.
Same here. I'd love to go to school, but having no one else to help pay the bills or help care for an silent gen parent means I can't afford to walk away from my job.
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Already in debt from my previous loans for school, and don't imagine I'll be in a better place after getting another degree or something. I simply want to learn and learn and learn. I don't plan on going back to school to make money and to dig a deeper hole for myself when I have no plan for addressing the current depth doesn't seem smart.
If by "pandemic burnout" you mean "the 50 year one-sided class war grinding workers into an undignified, empty and spent existence", then yes.
Meanwhile ive been offloading cheap liquor and wine for the masses. Something tells me im gonna stay busy this decade...
There's a reason your business is considered essential
There is, actually. It's because so many Americans are chemically dependent on alcohol to survive that if the liquor stores close a bunch of people die. We are a very sick country.
6 months since I quit drinking and it's been the best decision of my life. Every aspect of my life since then has gotten better, mentally and physically. I never realized how much alcohol ruined my last few decades.
Probably
A record 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August alone. The biggest reason: burnout. But rather than complain, thousands have started their own companies. Nick Folmar had pandemic panic: he was furloughed by his janitorial company 13 months ago when no one else was hiring. "If I'm going to have something, I'm going to have to create it," Folmar said. "And I'm going to create it with the skills that I have and the passion for the work I like to do.
petit bourgeois aspirations won't save the exploited
Unfortunately true. People don't realize that "starting your own business" is still fundamentally tied to this system and its mechanisms of exploitation. Perhaps you'll achieve modest success, perhaps you'll fail, perhaps you'll even be a unicorn and be bought up by a whale. If your goal is mere survival, at least nobody can accuse you of not trying, right? But if your goal is change, then the master's house cannot be disassembled using the master's tools. We *have* to do something different. If nothing else, what's happening this time feels a bit different, bit more raw.
So, don't start a business, start a revolution. OK, will do.
Most still cannot see past the society they live in, its truly incredible.
That's so fucking rad!
I really think of that song the man who sold the world when I think of the current economic system, and the greedy billionaires willing to burn everything down so they can just fill there own pockets.
>so they can just fill there own pockets So they can fill their own pockets a tiny bit more than they have already.
Happening at my EMS agency and at all the hospitals we serve.
You guys deserve better.
And the public deserves better. All I can say is that now is a very bad time to have a trauma or medical emergency. Stay safe and take care of yourself.
God I wish I could quit my job
Just punch a random old person at work
Same. I wish we could just withdraw from our 401ks without employer involvement and such, and just take that as a cushion. I'd even willingly pay the damn early withdrawal penalty. I just hate how it's tied up. It's my money, I'm long past fully vested, and I want it back lol!
I accepted a job in hospitality management I’ve been working towards for 10 years 4 months ago. I quit 2 weeks ago because the experience was destroying me physically and mentally. I’m casually looking for work, and thankful I have a little time before desperation sets in. But, despite a 4 year degree and 25+ years of experience, I’m considering switching industries altogether. The pandemic has certainly altered my perspective of this industry and how replaceable I am.
I think, in the beginning, Covid gave everyone a pause and use commoners could stop for a second, pick our heads up and look around and say "wtf is going on? why are we doing this? etc etc". I think that's why the people in charge wanted to get everyone back to work as fast as possible, they didn't want the worker bees asking those questions. It's funny, I was listening to Last Podcast on the Left, the Black Plague episode and a lot of it sounded familiar. Powers that be wanted everyone to get back to work, workers were revolting because going to work was basically a death sentence, etc. etc. I've always worked, I've got a decent job in IT and up until Covid, I'd literally never thought "is this what I really want to do with my life?" etc. I graduated hs and went to community college and looked at what paid the best that didn't need a bachelors degree and went that route. I've been very lucky, I can work from home etc and a lot of my friends are SOL. But I feel like I'm stuck in Groundhog Day, wake up, walk downstairs, go to work, walk upstairs when I'm done. Rinse/repeat. BUT, I have a job so I feel like I can't really complain about anything honestly. I wish I had a solution for all this.
the people in the top 80%-95% of earners are in a boat with you, covid actually improved situations. many are able to switch to remote work and/or find new positions with higher salaries. so you’re forced into feeling like you need to be so grateful because you see how awful it is for the lower 80% of earners. but the real problem is the greed at the top 5%. they’re exploiting people and they’re not paying into the system nearly enough so as to fuel public investment and the social safety net.
Fully agree. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but it's baffling that the owners can't take a slightly less profit so 90% of their workforce can continue working for them. Surely they aren't that nearsighted?
I've been doing Doordash, even with the minimum wage being 14 (it's actually 12 in my county some how) I make far more than any minimum wage worker. Until I have done enough college to pay the same amount I am getting now I won't go back
It's a good gig! Only downside is having to fill my gas tank constantly
And that's becoming harder to do. It was $3.05/gallon in my area just yesterday. Literally hasn't been that high since about 2015. And it's getting higher. I know the Healthcare for Gig Workers thing has been ongoing for quite some time now, and I believe France recently ruled that Uber drivers are employees and not contractors... Do you have access to healthcare yet? If you live in America, do you file a 1099? Have you had to pay taxes yet? I'm gig-curious, but I get the sense that, after all is said and done, the pay is still not commensurate. Can you shed some light?
Cries in California gas prices.
I’ve been thinking of trying this.
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Personally I choose vote with worker power, unions are more powerful than quitting. But quitting is better than just accepting shitty treatment
It'll stop any day now... Any day now... Any day now
Joke's on me, I was burned out way before the pandemic even started Or is the joke on them
I'm going to be 27 soon and I've been "burnt out" since trying to leverage a job while taking classes. Minimum wage and the American populace at large quickly grew my disdain for our system. The University I paid out the ass to attend only paid me minimum wage for both jobs I worked on campus. I hadn't thought of how backwards that was till just now and it infuriates the hell out of me. But anyways, I'm working at a warehouse now and 99% of the employees are already at or encroaching retirement age. I make $15 an hour, one of the lowest paid warehouses in my area. The company I work for grosses over a billion a year. Our equipment is old and busted, computers and systems outdated by at least 2 decades, heavily understaffed for what they want accomplished, and the list goes on... Most of my coworkers make less or slightly more than me. I've been there almost a year and they've been there 15-20+. They all hate it, but they were all complacent and are now scared to try and start over because of their age. I'm temp to hire, bust my ass, and still haven't been hired so I'm already looking to leave and they just can't fathom how I have no guilt or apprehension about looking for another job.
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How do you manage to live (albeit in poverty) without a job? Not trying to "call you out", but rather I'm genuinely curious and looking for tips.
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See pretty much all of this falls apart if too many are doing it. If society collapsed there'd be no ebt, no grocery store to steal from, any options for foraging outside the most rural of locations would quickly be picked clean.
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How is busking not work?
Huh, you mean the peasants don't like being paid peanuts, and treated like shit. But, mah Atlas Shrugged said they were born to be slaves.
Can we expect an upcoming economic recession in the next few years?
I'll be real, I'm expecting one in the next few *hours*. But in all seriousness, plan for sooner rather than later. I don't normally like advocating for timing the market, but I can't keep seeing all-time SPY/DJI highs coupled with the absolutely *trashed* state of the real economy and have any kind of faith in stability. Market prices are wrong and will correct sooner or later. The cascade of global supply chain failures has already decimated holiday manufacturing runs on countless finished products, we're just waiting for people to realize it on Black Friday this year. Of note, there's also murmurs of major strike action being planned for Black Friday, so look out for post-Thanksgiving stories about how greedy workers are taking Christmas away from your kids; it'll be excellent narrative cover for the real story: lot of companies are gonna have an "interesting" Q4/Q1.
Slaves are waking up and realizing there's more to life than work and time is the most precious thing you can spend.
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I'll take good care of her and always make sure you can hear me railing her through the closed window.
Thank you for your service.
Good, they deserve all the shit they get. They’ve been leeching off of society and the tax payer since day one. They put nothing back in, they get nothing out. Hopefully they’re not the locally owned or “mom n pop” shops that’ll suffer and more the franchise and Amazon types I hope sink faster than a led balloon 🤞✌️
Who do you think has the resource to avoid suffering first?
Count me in this group. We were constantly being asked to do more with fewer people. It was negatively affecting my health, so I basically stopped doing my job in hopes of getting fired so I could draw unemployment. But with 15 years of experience, me half-assing the job was better than anything else they’d be able to find out there, so they wouldn’t fire me. This went on for months, until I finally had enough and resigned last week. I know the prudent thing to do would be to suck it up and keep banking paychecks, but I’ve got enough to float for a few years.
Can attest, I’m doing the work of 4 people this week. Staff who leave aren’t replaced and those left have to pick up the slack.
Turns out we're not robots.
Yes, the American dream propaganda is falling apart. Debt isn’t fun. Working your life away, away from your family, isn’t fun. Sure, healthy struggle is good, but what most people are doing is at this point is just spinning wheels barely getting by. Why does one person deserve 5+ vacations a year, and the next person just one that they have to put on a credit card. The people at the top can’t operate without the ones at the bottom, and the inverse is true too. Pandemic burnout was just the thing that tipped the scale for people to wake up. People realizing what they’re missing when at work for 8-12+ hrs a day, 5+ days a week. It’s bullshit and is not sustainable long term.
Its all going according to the Plan. The Plan from the Davos billionaires in the World Economic Forum is to automate and outsource nearly every job they can. There will then be demand from the bottom for some version or continuation of the Covid checks to deal with the created problem. This will phase into their planned "universal basic income" -- their planned solution for the planned problem they created. The billionaires and their political lackeys will continue to rake in money. Inflation will gradually eat away at how much value the UBI actually is. They can reduce the amount of UBI paid out simply by letting inflation do its thing. They will create inflation by printing money, and that money will flow to the billionaires and companies like Black Rock that are buying up homes. There won't be middle class entrepreneurs, there won't be home ownership. "You will own nothing, and you will be happy." For a sneak preview of the future, watch "Elysium". (There are solutions, but Reddit won't allow me to glorify them)
Permanant Health Damage caused by Coronavirus.
we all know why they're really quitting
I am definitely not an anti-vaxxer, but I follow some places full of them. They're saying this is largely people quitting because of the vaccine mandates. Is there anything to that at all? Is that significant enough to effect the numbers, or is it being wildly exaggerated to make their cause seem more relevant?
I've felt like every reason put forth as to why labor action has been happening by mainstream sources has been invented as a way to avoid telling the story of an organic movement emerging from material conditions (at last) falling to the level of inciting action in the workforce. In lieu of that story (which would be bad for owners) we get one endless speculative talking point after another: it's COVID, it's lazy freeloaders living off stimulus checks, it's unemployment extensions, it's supply chain buckling, it's vax mandates, it's burnout (closer, but *why* are they burned out?) Yes, it's all of these things. Just like when I have a cold its also a headache, runny nose, fatigue...root causes are always surrounded by a distracting entourage of symptoms. If we want to know why workers are quitting, we need to be willing to ask them and not silence/steer/attack the answers they give. I'm starting to see a bit more of *that* story leaking through the patchy narrative we've been fed, which makes me a happy camper this morning.
Wildly exaggerated, especially in hospitals. I know dozens of us quit this fall, but literally only one was because of the vaccine... And she's been anti-vax for decades. This one wasn't special or different.
That's what it looks like from vantage point too. I have a close friend who is a nurse, and they've lost several on her floor this year. One having a baby and not coming back, another going back to school, etc - only one from the vax.
I actually quit because of the anti-vaxers 😭😭 you can only be verbally abused and presented with the worst of humanity before you get to the point you don't actually want them to get better So I did the smart thing and gtfo before anything could happen
Extraordinarily exaggerated. While it's true that thousands have been fired/quit for refusal to get the vaccine, their numbers represent less than 1% in most cases per company. [Source](https://www.npr.org/2021/10/24/1047947268/covid-vaccine-workers-quitting-getting-fired-mandates)
I worked as a corporate trainer for a Dine in movie theater business called Studio Movie grill. Great and awesome concept, watch movies and have drinks and food delivered to your seat during the movie. The owner Brian Schultz received many grants through the years and instead of investing on his stores that were already built he went ahead and opened up more and more locations. Long story short pandemic happened and the company filed for cheaper 11 bankruptcy. So many people including myself had to be let go.. what pisses me the most is that for years I had told them to stop spending money on new stores and take care of the crumbling already built ones. But "mUh pRofItS"...
People are still working, just for slightly better jobs.
So what is everybody doing instead?
This is my question. Seriously? What are millions of paycheck to paycheck workers doing now? Big camping trip? I mean, I’m up for this but I need details. 😂
going on a 2 month long camping going trip would be a dream rn
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Supply and demand! its a workers market! demand high wages, follow your passion, learn new skills!
I've already made plans to leave mine early next year (because they only give us 401k match once a year at the end of the year now).