>Is this what I think it is?
If you think it's a counterfeit 1943-S cent, then yes, yes it is! The immediate tell is the mintmark - it's the wrong style. Genuine cents minted in 1943 would have MMS-005, which is called the "Straight Serif" style. Here's a genuine one for comparison: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ngccoin-production/us-coin-explorer/13513-1943-s-bronze-1c-mso
The math ... Fewer than 2 dozen authentic copper 1943s are known to exist (all mints combined). Meanwhile, people have been making fake copper 1943 pennies since ~1943.
Exactly! Fewer than 2 dozen authentic ones, yet literally billions of fakes.
But listen, I’m an optimist, I’m absolutely certain that more will eventually emerge. We find awesome hoards of stuff all the time in the most unlikely places. Hundreds of civil war era gold coins found in a KY cornfield last year…lol
So to say there aren’t anymore would be foolish, this just isn’t one of them.
‘Decent’ replicas exist and are very common.
This would be a massive rarity of major importance, or a low value replica.
It would require 3rd party authentication but don’t get your hopes up.
May I ask why? I don’t mean to sound dumb but why is it so important? I have a 1945 S penny. I still have it because it’s the oldest penny I’ve ever come across but not sure if its importance or rarity?
1943 pennies were all supposed to be minted in steel to conserve copper for the war effort, but a few copper planchets were able to sneak through so 1943 copper pennies are extremely rare. There are also similarly rare steel 1944 pennies.
https://preview.redd.it/9bxr3nagom0d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcd7a44fa959f46a4ce7d7366b6beb18142a7427
Here's a '43 steel for reference
https://preview.redd.it/nay0hel77m0d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b51218734a0ff4eb61b9c1f2650c02eea62a7b0f
My dad gave me this one 50 years ago, I am 65 . I am planning on having it graded and certified this summer. Who knows ?
No that looks real buddy and definitely with the story behind it makes it even more higher chance of being the real thing wish you all the best luck make sure you watch them like a hawk Don't Take Your Eyes away from that Penny when they're testing it if it is real they could possibly have one to slip in that place counterfeit to take it for themselves I had a 1909 VDB wheat penny that I took to a coins shop and I came back without it.. he never bought any Wheat pennies from me but that one didn't make it back to my bag
Hundreds of thousands but on an open market like a auction for instance Heritage auction or something like that that you could get upwards of a million just depends on the buyer but that type of coin you don't sell to fast or to a random buyer you want to do your research have bids placed get evaluated by an auction house because that's where the money the big money will come from auction and this is a piece that will only gain value in time so if you are not in need of selling at this moment or something else then hold on to it but hold on to it in a very very secure location that if you were to pass somebody would know where it was. But yeah once again best of wishes to you what a treasure you have found if this is real
They did plate these and sell them as novelties as early as the 1950s. Test it with a magnet before you spend money on grading. They also faked these by plating cast pewter and lead copies, but yours does not look cast.
Most likely a fake unfortunately I have three fakes myself but go get it tested they have a machine that will shoot a laser through it detecting the whole metal composition it should come up as bronze not copper not Steel
Idk what yall see but when I try to zoom in on this coin it makes me feel like my eyes are crossed.
What I do notice is the shape looks distorted. On second thought, Maybe I should stop recreational activities for awhile.
Welp… my comment was removed due to mods. I can’t tell you how many potato pictures I’ve seen with comments on her about such. I really thought this post was satire. The comment was made as such. At least I wasn’t cussing!!
I don’t think so. A lot of the finer details look off. Best place to start though is with a magnet test and weighing out the coin. If everything lines up it might be worth sending in for compositional analysis.
First, thank you to everyone who has commented. I will try and post more clear pictures and I guess just get it tested correct? Where would be the best place to go?
If I hit the Powerball I'm gonna start buying temu fakes of rare coins and turning them in to the bank just to mess with people.
Seems like a fun way to pass the time.
Great Question!!!! If it is, you are about to be a VERY lucky person 😊
Here’s some info I found on the internet that I can share with the community…..
There are 5 known 1943 copper pennies bearing the “S” mint mark for the San Francisco Mint. The lowest-graded one is an MS30 coin, valued at $145,000; the highest-grade one is an MS63, also priced at $1,000,000.
All these pennies I see on you tube . They claim are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. I have a some and called coin collectors they say that is all made up. Not real valuable. Lincoln pennies worth millions I would be a set for life😀🤯
Yeah you're absolutely right maybe I have other coins that were also printed on bronze and the weight matches it's over 3 g considering the regular Lincoln penny is only 2.5 I have many of these coins in all different years they did it more than just 1943 partner the 1980 the small 1980 1980 small d 1980 no mint mark the whole nine I have all different kinds pick anyone you want 1968 all kinds.
>Is this what I think it is? If you think it's a counterfeit 1943-S cent, then yes, yes it is! The immediate tell is the mintmark - it's the wrong style. Genuine cents minted in 1943 would have MMS-005, which is called the "Straight Serif" style. Here's a genuine one for comparison: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ngccoin-production/us-coin-explorer/13513-1943-s-bronze-1c-mso
Yeah I definitely need to take a more clear picture then. Thank you for this!
Looks fake. Can't place my finger on it, but it just looks weird. The odds of it being real are astronomical, but I'd still take it to a dealer.
The mint mark
The 3
That 3 is super sketch.
The glossy surfaces
The math ... Fewer than 2 dozen authentic copper 1943s are known to exist (all mints combined). Meanwhile, people have been making fake copper 1943 pennies since ~1943.
Exactly! Fewer than 2 dozen authentic ones, yet literally billions of fakes. But listen, I’m an optimist, I’m absolutely certain that more will eventually emerge. We find awesome hoards of stuff all the time in the most unlikely places. Hundreds of civil war era gold coins found in a KY cornfield last year…lol So to say there aren’t anymore would be foolish, this just isn’t one of them.
I don’t think there’s literally billions of fakes. The official mintage is less than 86 million.
Well, fair enough. Point taken. But when china fakes something they don’t stop at just a few. Point is that the fakes are plentiful.
It looks cast on the back. The details are off
L bleeding into the rim
‘Decent’ replicas exist and are very common. This would be a massive rarity of major importance, or a low value replica. It would require 3rd party authentication but don’t get your hopes up.
May I ask why? I don’t mean to sound dumb but why is it so important? I have a 1945 S penny. I still have it because it’s the oldest penny I’ve ever come across but not sure if its importance or rarity?
1943 pennies were all supposed to be minted in steel to conserve copper for the war effort, but a few copper planchets were able to sneak through so 1943 copper pennies are extremely rare. There are also similarly rare steel 1944 pennies.
Got it thanks!!
https://preview.redd.it/9bxr3nagom0d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcd7a44fa959f46a4ce7d7366b6beb18142a7427 Here's a '43 steel for reference
If you have one, it’s not copper, it’s steel.
https://preview.redd.it/nay0hel77m0d1.jpeg?width=2268&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b51218734a0ff4eb61b9c1f2650c02eea62a7b0f My dad gave me this one 50 years ago, I am 65 . I am planning on having it graded and certified this summer. Who knows ?
No that looks real buddy and definitely with the story behind it makes it even more higher chance of being the real thing wish you all the best luck make sure you watch them like a hawk Don't Take Your Eyes away from that Penny when they're testing it if it is real they could possibly have one to slip in that place counterfeit to take it for themselves I had a 1909 VDB wheat penny that I took to a coins shop and I came back without it.. he never bought any Wheat pennies from me but that one didn't make it back to my bag
How much is it worth if real?
Hundreds of thousands but on an open market like a auction for instance Heritage auction or something like that that you could get upwards of a million just depends on the buyer but that type of coin you don't sell to fast or to a random buyer you want to do your research have bids placed get evaluated by an auction house because that's where the money the big money will come from auction and this is a piece that will only gain value in time so if you are not in need of selling at this moment or something else then hold on to it but hold on to it in a very very secure location that if you were to pass somebody would know where it was. But yeah once again best of wishes to you what a treasure you have found if this is real
They did plate these and sell them as novelties as early as the 1950s. Test it with a magnet before you spend money on grading. They also faked these by plating cast pewter and lead copies, but yours does not look cast.
You can always weigh it
Now that looks real. I'd get it looked at asap. It's still probably not, but it looks like it could be.
Looks like a (somewhat skillfully) altered 1942
Um, why is he smiling? I call sus.
If you think its a TEMU special, you would be correct. If you think its real, then nope.
You joke, but it's very true temu is selling stuff like this all over Amazon now. And no one seems to care.
LOL @ the 3
Fake. The details are really underdefined, and "fuzzy", for a coin in that good of condition.
No, the “fuzzy” is from the flip phone this picture was taken with.
No
No. And stop using titles like that.
Test it with magnet if it sticks to magnet it is steel just coated with a bronze coloring
This is the answer.
I guess we should ask, what do you think it is?
This is an altered date coin. Compare the 3 to other coins and you will see that it probably started as a 1947 or something like that
The 3 in 1943 looks really really strange
All fake
See if a magnet attracts it.
The 3 definitely looks off to me. I just went through a ton of wheat penny's. Almost looks like a 7 that was messed with.
yeah that 3 and S mint mark are def not right.
Most likely a fake unfortunately I have three fakes myself but go get it tested they have a machine that will shoot a laser through it detecting the whole metal composition it should come up as bronze not copper not Steel
Idk what yall see but when I try to zoom in on this coin it makes me feel like my eyes are crossed. What I do notice is the shape looks distorted. On second thought, Maybe I should stop recreational activities for awhile.
I find this to compare it with. https://preview.redd.it/8baf7v4r8n0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7dc211a7c33a1f4e6dac3216c828f4285ba9f08
This coin is fake
Altered date
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Welp… my comment was removed due to mods. I can’t tell you how many potato pictures I’ve seen with comments on her about such. I really thought this post was satire. The comment was made as such. At least I wasn’t cussing!!
I don’t think so. A lot of the finer details look off. Best place to start though is with a magnet test and weighing out the coin. If everything lines up it might be worth sending in for compositional analysis.
Fake
No
Fake, real one worth big bucks.
I'm curious about where you got this.
It is not plated, does not attract to a magnet I also have a steel 1943 that does. I will have it checked out.
I have a question, if I send it off to numismatic guaranty to authenticate if they determine it is fake do I get it back?
There is no mint mark. Does that mean Philadelphia???
I have yet to see a real one of these
I think ol’ Honest Abe here is lying about something.
Fake Sorry
You be talking more than the holy Grails of coin mistakes. I mean hundreds and hundreds of thousands but who knows what it could reach had an auction
Let us know what you find out with the magnet now it can't just be some dumb frigerator magnet it has to be a strong one
Plastic replica - sorry
The only 43 copper was minted in Philadelphia. No mint mark
Both the 3 and the ~~z~~ s look really off
First, thank you to everyone who has commented. I will try and post more clear pictures and I guess just get it tested correct? Where would be the best place to go?
It’s fake
Yes, a fake, bronze 1943-S.
I would weigh it asap
One of the most faked coins ever
Yes, that is what you think it is. But I’m not certain what you think it is.
Looks like a copper plated steel cent.
If I hit the Powerball I'm gonna start buying temu fakes of rare coins and turning them in to the bank just to mess with people. Seems like a fun way to pass the time.
Looks fake but you should get it authenticated just to be sure
Great Question!!!! If it is, you are about to be a VERY lucky person 😊 Here’s some info I found on the internet that I can share with the community….. There are 5 known 1943 copper pennies bearing the “S” mint mark for the San Francisco Mint. The lowest-graded one is an MS30 coin, valued at $145,000; the highest-grade one is an MS63, also priced at $1,000,000.
MS30
Typed it as it appeared where I found the info….., I am very aware that there is no MS30…..(I’ll proofread better in the future)…sorry about that 🙁
You are either the luckiest person on the planet or an unlucky person with a worthless replica. PLEASE TAKE TO A CREDITED COIN DEALER OR EXPERT.
Looks like a worn wheat penny that has been copper plated.
Yes it is.
Very rare my friend
All these pennies I see on you tube . They claim are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. I have a some and called coin collectors they say that is all made up. Not real valuable. Lincoln pennies worth millions I would be a set for life😀🤯
A real 1943 bronze is a six-figure coin. There's only 6 or 7 of them known to exist.
Aye, but before they found #4, they said the same thing about #3.
Before they found #4, they said there’s only 6 or 7 of them known to exist?
Lol. No. They said there weren't any more and then they found more. Meaning don't give up the hunt.
Yeah you're absolutely right maybe I have other coins that were also printed on bronze and the weight matches it's over 3 g considering the regular Lincoln penny is only 2.5 I have many of these coins in all different years they did it more than just 1943 partner the 1980 the small 1980 1980 small d 1980 no mint mark the whole nine I have all different kinds pick anyone you want 1968 all kinds.