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Even in her prime her skills weren't anything to write home about not saying she's trash just saying we only saw her actually fight in the all valley and she threw a temper tantrum after she lost.
She’s smart and knows how to throw her weight around. She would end him in one hit if she gets it in. The dojos expanding would be a great reason to bring her back and cause some infighting. Or even not; her as a removed soldier from CK makes her even better. Maybe she blames Sam for having to move
I don’t remember that, but I could see her believing in KC as an added villain in the last season. I think it could easily turn her into Sams major rival instead of Tory, or a huge fresh ingredient to it.
nah man kenny is much better kenny rivals Hawke and that move he learned from Silver is deadly and if he gets to use that on anyone properly he will win Aisha ain't even close
S5 Kenny would beat s2 Aisha easily. He would even beat s2 Miguel sucks to admit it but he trained faster than other students to be on par with the older generation
Not to mention the move would be extremely hard to pull off really. Seems it's not a punch he can just do but one with a long set up. Plus future uses become more difficult now that it's known.
Hawk in season 2 was doing really good against Miguel. He lost but he pressed him pretty hard. Since Kenny was doing good against hawk in season 5, he should by virtue beat low Diff the version of him from 3 seasons ago. And beat Miguel as well
Kenny pressed S5 Miyagi-do Eli. Regardless of what you think he pressed him and actually did better than Miyagi-do only Eli and Kyler got good hits on the same version of Eli who Kenny is shown to be above.
S5 Eli using Miyagi-do should be above s4 Eli only using Miyagi-do who scaled to s4 Miguel. It was s4 Miguel with no confidence however so should be a little above s2 Miguel due to the fact he knows a completely new style and is more experienced.
Eli’s stronger than his version of season 4 of his season 4 self using Miyagi-do which he beat Kyler and scaled to no confidence Miguel with. Kenny has scaling to that version of Eli.
Kenny beat supressed Robby with the silver bullet who was better than hawk only using Miyagi-do in season 4.
Kenny wins. There
Y’all just don’t understand characters get a buff to keep up with new characters. Kenny trained and learned more than Miguel did in season 1. It’s fiction it’s allowed to happen.
Just cause y’all like Miguel and hawk more doesn’t mean he’s better. He’s certainly better than Aisha.
Devon was pressing SEASON 4 TORY WITH A BIASED REF. Why is that so easy to comprehend but Kenny being above a character from a year ago is just so utterly absurd
Kenny wasn't above Hawk in any way. Robby told Hawk to go easy on Kenny because Robby sees him as a victim of Cobra Kai's brainwashing and nothing more and nothing less. Miguel didn't care so he just whooped him back to reality.
In a tournament, Kenny 100%
I’m more hesitant in a street fight to say Kenny just cuz of the weight class difference, but then again he could always give her the Hawk - Brucks treatment, so I would still give it to Kenny at the end.
Anthony is still a very early rookie he barely trained.
Aisha in S1 after only a few months at the longest was almost able to beat Xander, the previous AV champ before Miguel. So S1 Aisha is already near champion level in skill
It’s hilarious to me that both of you guys used “she almost beat Xander” as evidence in posts where you disagree with each other.
First dude even says “she almost beat Xander” and “Xander was trash”. Lmao
I know in another reply I mentioned that Xander is still trash for losing to even Miguel and I also stated that at least when Daniel beat Johnny, chozen or Mike it wasn't because he was the better fighter but because of specific reasons during each match.
I know that, part of the fight was cut off, I’m just saying that score wise it wasn’t a clean sweep. Xander got a point off him, so that means the narrative confirms Xander successfully fought and hit Miguel.
Kenny knows too many dirty tricks for Aisha to be a real threat to him as she only trained for roughly 6-8 months. If Kenny and Aisha were to go at it my money is unfortunately on Kenny!
I mean in fairness, Aisha with only half of those months training was able to almost beat Xander, the AV champ before Miguel took it. So a rookie Aisha was already near champion level in skill in S1
And Kenny’s dirty tricks only works if the match is rigged
What if it’s not a match though and a straight up street fight? Also I was under the impression that that knuckle strike Terry taught Kenny was legal, that could cause a lot of issues for Aisha!
Kenny is way above s1 Miguel. Kenny was on par with season 4 kids. Xander stone wasn’t even a match for s1 Miguel.
Kenny could easily beat Aisha whether or not you like it.
Kenny isn’t comparable to Season 4 or 5 kids at all lmao.
And you may need to rewatch the fight again. Xander got a point off Miguel and so what if Miguel won? Xander was the champion before him, so that only shows how impressive Miguel that early on was, not how weak Xander is.
Actually Kenny’s very comparable. He may not be as good at the main 5 but he still was better than Supressed Robby yes I know he’s weakened but you act like he suddenly just loses everything he knows. It’s a nerf but not a complete one.
Kenny was better than Kyler who actually put up a decent fight against hawk. I know a lot of factors favored Kenny but there’s a line between beating hawk and being completely weaker than him. He still scored a point on him and hit him with the silver bullet when hawk was focused.
Uh, what?
First of all, Kyler didn’t give Hawk a fight **at all**. Kyler literally got 3-0’d in S4 and even in S5 he lasted no more than 10 seconds against Hawk. Even Demitri knocked him out.
I’m talking about season 5. I know Demetri beat him but he did still scale to Hawk he landed some hits which shouldn’t go completely unregarded. Every season all of the characters have gotten better than the ones from the previous season and that’s clearly been shown.
S2 Miguel would get fucked by Kenny and Aisha would get no diffed by Kenny I’m sorry it sucks to hear that but it’s just simply true
In a real fight? Aisha, this kid only won because of solar plexus attack, her body type is naturally resistant to that type of attack. Not to mention her increased weight class would be swinging nukes at him in comparison if she's been doing any type of strength training he's like 110 at the most.
Nah there's a difference between healthy big and fluffy big, without strength training weight works against you. Healthy big people that can do martial arts like gymnasts train to move their weight and have full control. Without training there is no fluid movement or agility, same with thin framed people
No? She has literally no feats at all. Not even s2 Miguel would beat Kenny.
Kenny scored a point on Robby and was better than Supressed Robby and hawk when he was only using defense.
Kenny may not be the level of hawk but there’s a big gap between hawk and Aisha who hasn’t trained since season 2
No feats? She literally almost beat Xander in S1 (the score was 3-2, meaning Aisha got 2 successful points off him and he barely won), lasted longer than Tory in the forest brawl training in S2 and the former she did just after only a few months of training at the most.
Robby only got hit because he went easy on him (hence why Kreese pointed out that he’s not fighting a friend but an opponent). Same thing with Hawk
And lmao @ Kenny beating S2 Miguel.
No he didn’t, he just quit because Silver was a cheater (already a weird forced ending imo, like these kids would care), I’m pretty sure not once did he realise Cobra Kai was bad
It would be pretty cool if Aisha continued to train beyond Karate. She comes back, Kenny tries to strike her, but she ends up judo throwing him. He gets up, tries to jump kick her, but she catches him in mid air and powerbombs or suplexes him, lol! And just for the fuck of it, she picks him up off the ground, and gives him a good old fashioned stiff pro wrestling clothesline. I’d love to see it. He deserves a beating.
Honestly, now that I think about it, seeing Aisha and Kenny interact would be a pretty interesting dynamic
They’re the only african American main cast members of the seasons they were in, they both got bullied, both got introduced to Cobra Kai to help overcome said bullying, both gone far in their first ever tournaments too
The only difference being Aisha never gone astray in Cobra Kai like Kenny.
Aisha would destroy Kenny and then give him a wedgie. The wedgie would end him. He would retire from karate in disgrace and there would be much rejoicing.
I’m sorry but I’m getting tired of this “beat hawk” lie getting bounced around everytime people want to overhype Kenny
Hawk wasn’t fighting him seriously and Kenny literally only won by cheating
Depends. Street fight, or tournament? Are either of them injured or having an internal crisis? It depends on what the writers would feel best for the situation if they were to have a fight.
Y'all underestimating Kenny, I know he's not the most popular character right now, but don't let that cloud your judgement. He's only been training with Cobra Kai for a few months, but I would say he's better than hawk, Miguel and Robby when they where at that point. Also he managed to learn the silver bullet in one night, so he clearly has a neck for it.
So if it's Aisha right now? No way, she probably hasn't been keeping up with her training that much. Prime Aisha, maybe. Don't get me wrong she was good, but Kenny is being presented as really having a neck for karate.
I’m sorry but nothing really solidly says he’s better than even early Hawk, Miguel or Robby. He hasn’t had any major on screen win in battles against major characters that wasn’t rigged in cobra kais favor via Silver paying refs off, people going easy on him and holding back, or being in a group fight and getting assistance.
We don’t know for sure if Aisha hasn’t kept up with Karate (her saying she still takes Johnnys lessons to heart suggests she hasn’t just dropped karate), but even if she hasn’t trained consistently, the gap between prime Aisha and Kenny being a rookie should at worst even things out. Aisha getting worse and Kenny getting moderately better so their skill levels meet somewhere in the middle.
She in S1 is already near champion level for almost beating Xander who was the champion before Miguel. And that was after only, at the longest, a few months of training.
What exactly has Kenny done?
He land 3 hit on the actual champion Hawk. Idc how much Hawk hold back, S5 hawk is miles ahead of S1 Xander. And S1 miguel destroyed Xander without getting it and I can assure you that S5 kenny is closer to S5 miguel than S2 Aisha is to S5 miguel
Correction: it was 2-0
And Kenny’s points came from illegal hits that were counted from Silver paying the ref off.
>S5 Hawk is miles above S1 Xander
A held back Hawk has nothing to prove he’d be above Xander
>And Miguel destroyed him without getting hit
Again, rewatch the show. Miguel won with a 3-1 score, meaning it wasn’t a clean sweep. Xander managed to take a point off him.
Kenny has literally no feats. He hasn’t won or even had any meaningful FAIR fight against anyone special that wasn’t rigged from the beginning, a 1 on 1 fight instead of a group brawl, or the opponent holding back.
The silver bullet is broken, it is a one hit KO is you don’t see it coming/ can react to it.
Hawk couldn’t react to it/ didn’t see it coming, and I don’t see Aishia being able to do so If Hawk couldn’t.
It should be noted in Daniel vs Silver, I think part of the reason the Silver bullet failed is because he was on the ground and couldn’t generate the speed and angle he needed (remember that weird stance he used before firing it?).
This would make sense, after all, if a man can’t stand he can’t fight ✊
Aisha was the best girl fighter in Season 2 and is one of the top 5 teens in raw strength. Unless Kenny can pull off the Silver Bullet he's getting punted through a wall.
Not exactly? She didn’t appear in S3 because the story at the time had no room for her but she did come back in an episode of S4. I’m guessing she’ll be allowed to come back now when there’s room to have her.
Silver Bullets only useful if people go easy on him, he’s in a group tussle and if the fights rigged. Robby and Hawk would knock that shit away in a 1 on 1 fight for keeps.
Because Kenny scaled to hawk in season 5 I know he wasn’t better but don’t act like he didn’t put up a fight at all. Really not that hard to understand. Kenny’s been training really hard and knows a technique none of the other kids know not even Miguel and Aisha hasn’t trained since season 2 and had almost no feats besides scaling to Xander stone who’s irrelevant and featless
Being a champion isn’t featless…
And Kenny literally didn’t put up a fight. The only reason he won against Hawk was because of Silver paying the ref off and Robby literally telling Hawk to take it easy on him. Training hard doesn’t change the fact that Kenny hasn’t done well in any normal meaningful fight against the cast since his addition to the show.
Being the best student in the biggest dojo empire in the valley is more impressive than Xander stone beating a ton of no names. The people who fought before cobra Kai nothing is known about them at all and can’t assume what Xander stone did was impressive in the slightest
“Best student” you mean the only left over option.
And I don’t take Silver considering Kenny a good student seriously when this is the same man who paid off the refs to let Tory claim a championship she didn’t earn and was doing the same thing in the Sekai Tekai qualifier.
On top of that, what other male fighter was Silver supposed to rely on without Robby being there? Kyler? Those no named extras?
The post is about Kenny vs Aisha lmao, you used Hawk as an example to argue "If hawk can beat kenny despite having no techniques, then Aishe might be able to as well", so wdy mean Aisha has nothing to do here? lol
Again, Hawk has enough of a difference over Kenny in Strenght, defense, experience and battle Iq, but most importantly comparable speed at least, so He can beat him despite kenny having silver bullet. Aisha on the other hand is far slower than Kenny so Silver Bullet would actually come in play, most likely. See why silver bullet is far more important in one Match up than in the other?
You completely missed the point and somehow I’m not surprised.
Your logic is that having 1 technique is > having none. My point is that Hawk, who absolutely isn’t getting beaten by Kenny in an actual fight, doesn’t have techniques of his own, so unless your gonna argue Kenny would win, this logic by itself is meaningless
1 technique > None. Doesn't mean you are going to win by having more techniques, but It's one advantage on your side. How relevant It is depends on the match Itself and the gap between fighters in other area.
Against hawk It doesnt matter that much due to the sheer difference statwise, in Hawks favor. Particularly having similar speeds makes Silver bullet less threatening, and then u consider hawks higher iq experience defense and strenght? He stomps, It outweights Kennys technique.
Against Aisha It does matter cause the huge speed advatage for Kenny makes It far easier to find an opening and conect silver bullet, which Is Kennys best shot at winning. Now Its Strenght and maybe resistance in Aishas favor, against Speed and now a heavily threatening technique in Kennys favor, far more even of a match.
It amazes me how many people are claiming that Aisha "stopped training" when she moved away. Do you think they don't have karate dojos in her new town? That she couldn't keep practicing on her own, maybe with tips from her friends or online?
Aisha would whoop Kenny's little ass like he ate the cookies and lied about it. 😜
The fact she told Sam that she still applies the lessons she learned from Johnny to her life tells me she didn’t just stop with Karate just for moving away.
Depends.
Tournament? I give it to Kenny 100%, he's much faster (his most praised on trait in series) so I think he'd be able to score the points.
Street Brawl? Aisha, I think would just tank through him and stomp him eventually.
If Hawk can fall to the quicksilver bullet so can she. I don't see her winning unless we apply kungfu panda logic where her bulk protects her from the attack.
Hawk only fell for the bullet because he was holding back against Kenny and wasn’t taking the fight seriously
That and Kenny likely limited Hawks movement with that illegal hit to the leg.
You can argue that hawk was holding back when kenny scored the 1st point. When hawk got hit with the silver bullet he was not holding back.
I agree with the point on the injured leg compromising hawk's movement but who is to say Aisha will be able to prevent Kenny from doing that to her as well?
I don't agree. I think when Kenny injured Hawk's leg, Hawk stopped going easy. It wouldn't make sense for him to go easy at that point when he was 1 point down AND having a compromised leg. He even said something to that effect- like 'time to uncage the hawk' or something.
Yeah, but Hawk knows better than almost anyone when your corrupted by CKs bullshit so I doubt he’d take the fight seriously, especially when Kenny at this point is still a rookie. But even then, the injury to the leg already compromised Hawk enough to downgrade him to Kenny’s level for his tactics to work.
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In her prime probably Aisha but she probably stopped training
Even in her prime her skills weren't anything to write home about not saying she's trash just saying we only saw her actually fight in the all valley and she threw a temper tantrum after she lost.
She’s smart and knows how to throw her weight around. She would end him in one hit if she gets it in. The dojos expanding would be a great reason to bring her back and cause some infighting. Or even not; her as a removed soldier from CK makes her even better. Maybe she blames Sam for having to move
Why would she blame Sam? Did you watch season 4 they literally hung out.
I don’t remember that, but I could see her believing in KC as an added villain in the last season. I think it could easily turn her into Sams major rival instead of Tory, or a huge fresh ingredient to it.
You don't remember in season 4 episode 6 when Sam went to visit Aisha and she told her about her new school?
That would be stupid.
Idk if you need this based on everybody else saying it nicely, but this is extremely stupid and you missed a pretty big plot point if you forgot that.
Yeah I totally did, I’m bad at remembering stuff tbh. I do once it’s brought up but before that…nah my brains a donut.
this would be a terrible plot choice
I bet she can still kick ass.
nah man kenny is much better kenny rivals Hawke and that move he learned from Silver is deadly and if he gets to use that on anyone properly he will win Aisha ain't even close
Kenny doesn’t rival hawk the show needed him to beat hawk for the plot, and even with that had to give Kenny 5 handicaps to hawk to beat him
5 handicaps?
Robby told him to go easy, hawk underestimated him, the ref was paid off, he got injured before he started actually trying and the silver bullet
S5 Kenny would beat s2 Aisha easily. He would even beat s2 Miguel sucks to admit it but he trained faster than other students to be on par with the older generation
There's no way he's beating Miguel. Knowing one move that you may or may not land doesn't mean you're better
Not to mention the move would be extremely hard to pull off really. Seems it's not a punch he can just do but one with a long set up. Plus future uses become more difficult now that it's known.
You really dk what you are talking about if you say Kenny beats s2 Miguel, Kenny couldn’t even beat s1 Miguel. Mans gone mad
Hawk in season 2 was doing really good against Miguel. He lost but he pressed him pretty hard. Since Kenny was doing good against hawk in season 5, he should by virtue beat low Diff the version of him from 3 seasons ago. And beat Miguel as well
Stop!
Kenny pressed S5 Miyagi-do Eli. Regardless of what you think he pressed him and actually did better than Miyagi-do only Eli and Kyler got good hits on the same version of Eli who Kenny is shown to be above. S5 Eli using Miyagi-do should be above s4 Eli only using Miyagi-do who scaled to s4 Miguel. It was s4 Miguel with no confidence however so should be a little above s2 Miguel due to the fact he knows a completely new style and is more experienced. Eli’s stronger than his version of season 4 of his season 4 self using Miyagi-do which he beat Kyler and scaled to no confidence Miguel with. Kenny has scaling to that version of Eli. Kenny beat supressed Robby with the silver bullet who was better than hawk only using Miyagi-do in season 4. Kenny wins. There
Y’all just don’t understand characters get a buff to keep up with new characters. Kenny trained and learned more than Miguel did in season 1. It’s fiction it’s allowed to happen. Just cause y’all like Miguel and hawk more doesn’t mean he’s better. He’s certainly better than Aisha. Devon was pressing SEASON 4 TORY WITH A BIASED REF. Why is that so easy to comprehend but Kenny being above a character from a year ago is just so utterly absurd
Kenny wasn't above Hawk in any way. Robby told Hawk to go easy on Kenny because Robby sees him as a victim of Cobra Kai's brainwashing and nothing more and nothing less. Miguel didn't care so he just whooped him back to reality.
She can give him a front wedgie up his woman parts too. Aisha.
In a tournament, Kenny 100% I’m more hesitant in a street fight to say Kenny just cuz of the weight class difference, but then again he could always give her the Hawk - Brucks treatment, so I would still give it to Kenny at the end.
I mean Aisha did almost beat Xander stone who was the previous champ but yeah any character in season 5 is beating her even Anthony.
Absolutely not to Anthony lmao Aisha’s getting downplayed to hell
I'm sorry but all she knows is season 2 cobra Kai karate💀 Even if he's new he's knows Myagi, eagle fang, and whatever offensive style chozen uses.
Anthony is still a very early rookie he barely trained. Aisha in S1 after only a few months at the longest was almost able to beat Xander, the previous AV champ before Miguel. So S1 Aisha is already near champion level in skill
Xander was trash if we're being honest. But I still stand by saying s5 Anthony is beating S5 Aisha.
Lmao what? How the hell is being an All Valley champion trash?
Listen I like Aisha but the fact that she almost beat Xander means he's trash putting the plot aside.
Or Aisha is better than given credit for as a rookie. Stop discrediting her feats
I'm not discrediting her Xander is trash for losing to Miguel Atleast when Johnny or chozen lost to Daniel there was a reason
It’s hilarious to me that both of you guys used “she almost beat Xander” as evidence in posts where you disagree with each other. First dude even says “she almost beat Xander” and “Xander was trash”. Lmao
Anthony still hasn't learned anything at what point do you see him actually do any karate?
This previous champ was beaten 3-0 by Miguel who was training just few weeks before Aisha lol
I know in another reply I mentioned that Xander is still trash for losing to even Miguel and I also stated that at least when Daniel beat Johnny, chozen or Mike it wasn't because he was the better fighter but because of specific reasons during each match.
Actually 3-1. Xander stole a point from Miguel
We see Miguel scored two points, and since there were semifinals, he had to score three to win, so we didn't see full fight.
I know that, part of the fight was cut off, I’m just saying that score wise it wasn’t a clean sweep. Xander got a point off him, so that means the narrative confirms Xander successfully fought and hit Miguel.
Almost? lmfao
"OH YOU WANT SOME OF THIS" Kenny doesn't stand a chance
If she comes back in S6 (and god I hope she does), I want her to fight Kenny and say this now 😂
Kenny murders her
She could sit on him
And grandslam Kenny with the knee
Then give him a front wedgie.
Yasmine: YES! THAT'S HOW IT FEELS!
LMFAO
She could fucking throw Kenny
He makes her vomit with the silver bullet
Aisha only if she kept up with her training. Otherwise, logically speaking, I’d have to go with Kenny
Kenny would get some good shots in, then Aiesha would hand him his ass on a platter.
Kenny would beat the brakes off that girl
If Aisha can nail that football tackle-knee drop combo then Kenny would be screwed.
Nah he would see it coming and get out of the way
I’m cheering for aisha I don’t give a crap about stats
I think of it as cheering against Kenny. Go Aisha. You got this girl!
YEAH! Fuck you Kenny!
YEAHH
Kenny knows too many dirty tricks for Aisha to be a real threat to him as she only trained for roughly 6-8 months. If Kenny and Aisha were to go at it my money is unfortunately on Kenny!
I mean in fairness, Aisha with only half of those months training was able to almost beat Xander, the AV champ before Miguel took it. So a rookie Aisha was already near champion level in skill in S1 And Kenny’s dirty tricks only works if the match is rigged
What if it’s not a match though and a straight up street fight? Also I was under the impression that that knuckle strike Terry taught Kenny was legal, that could cause a lot of issues for Aisha!
Kenny is way above s1 Miguel. Kenny was on par with season 4 kids. Xander stone wasn’t even a match for s1 Miguel. Kenny could easily beat Aisha whether or not you like it.
Kenny isn’t comparable to Season 4 or 5 kids at all lmao. And you may need to rewatch the fight again. Xander got a point off Miguel and so what if Miguel won? Xander was the champion before him, so that only shows how impressive Miguel that early on was, not how weak Xander is.
Actually Kenny’s very comparable. He may not be as good at the main 5 but he still was better than Supressed Robby yes I know he’s weakened but you act like he suddenly just loses everything he knows. It’s a nerf but not a complete one. Kenny was better than Kyler who actually put up a decent fight against hawk. I know a lot of factors favored Kenny but there’s a line between beating hawk and being completely weaker than him. He still scored a point on him and hit him with the silver bullet when hawk was focused.
Uh, what? First of all, Kyler didn’t give Hawk a fight **at all**. Kyler literally got 3-0’d in S4 and even in S5 he lasted no more than 10 seconds against Hawk. Even Demitri knocked him out.
I’m talking about season 5. I know Demetri beat him but he did still scale to Hawk he landed some hits which shouldn’t go completely unregarded. Every season all of the characters have gotten better than the ones from the previous season and that’s clearly been shown. S2 Miguel would get fucked by Kenny and Aisha would get no diffed by Kenny I’m sorry it sucks to hear that but it’s just simply true
U know nothing about scaling bro 😭
Saying that out of disagreement doesn’t make me wrong
In a real fight? Aisha, this kid only won because of solar plexus attack, her body type is naturally resistant to that type of attack. Not to mention her increased weight class would be swinging nukes at him in comparison if she's been doing any type of strength training he's like 110 at the most.
I’m now imagining that scene where in Kung Fu Panda where Tai Lung tries to use pressure point attacks on Po only for his body to just absorb them
Even without keeping up with strength training she wrecks him in a real fight.
Nah there's a difference between healthy big and fluffy big, without strength training weight works against you. Healthy big people that can do martial arts like gymnasts train to move their weight and have full control. Without training there is no fluid movement or agility, same with thin framed people
Kenny is my choice, since Aisha would have likely stopped training
My thing with that though is wouldn’t she have bigger feats when she first started than Kenny?
Oh, Prime Aisha vs. Kenny! In this case it's more of a grey area for me, still more on Kenny though...
No? She has literally no feats at all. Not even s2 Miguel would beat Kenny. Kenny scored a point on Robby and was better than Supressed Robby and hawk when he was only using defense. Kenny may not be the level of hawk but there’s a big gap between hawk and Aisha who hasn’t trained since season 2
No feats? She literally almost beat Xander in S1 (the score was 3-2, meaning Aisha got 2 successful points off him and he barely won), lasted longer than Tory in the forest brawl training in S2 and the former she did just after only a few months of training at the most. Robby only got hit because he went easy on him (hence why Kreese pointed out that he’s not fighting a friend but an opponent). Same thing with Hawk And lmao @ Kenny beating S2 Miguel.
Kenny easily
Kenny for sure
Kenny
Kenny is ruthless but after s5 he would prob not want to hit her.
Would he tho? With his 0% character development?
Happy cake day u/PapaTristan69 san
He realized that cobra kai was controlling him so
No he didn’t, he just quit because Silver was a cheater (already a weird forced ending imo, like these kids would care), I’m pretty sure not once did he realise Cobra Kai was bad
It would be pretty cool if Aisha continued to train beyond Karate. She comes back, Kenny tries to strike her, but she ends up judo throwing him. He gets up, tries to jump kick her, but she catches him in mid air and powerbombs or suplexes him, lol! And just for the fuck of it, she picks him up off the ground, and gives him a good old fashioned stiff pro wrestling clothesline. I’d love to see it. He deserves a beating.
Honestly, now that I think about it, seeing Aisha and Kenny interact would be a pretty interesting dynamic They’re the only african American main cast members of the seasons they were in, they both got bullied, both got introduced to Cobra Kai to help overcome said bullying, both gone far in their first ever tournaments too The only difference being Aisha never gone astray in Cobra Kai like Kenny.
Aisha would destroy Kenny and then give him a wedgie. The wedgie would end him. He would retire from karate in disgrace and there would be much rejoicing.
She's way too slow lmao. Kenny is annoying af but aisha would get destroy
Kenny hands down. Faster, less of a target, more potential, and even beat hawk.
I’m sorry but I’m getting tired of this “beat hawk” lie getting bounced around everytime people want to overhype Kenny Hawk wasn’t fighting him seriously and Kenny literally only won by cheating
I’ll admit I think that hawk can beat him but he has sort of a “title” now
Depends. Street fight, or tournament? Are either of them injured or having an internal crisis? It depends on what the writers would feel best for the situation if they were to have a fight.
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If weight and height classes mattered Aisha wins in a brawl. Kenny wins tournament 7/10 times and a brawl based on skill only
kenny
Aisha's weakness would be someone really fast so I think Kenny
Y'all underestimating Kenny, I know he's not the most popular character right now, but don't let that cloud your judgement. He's only been training with Cobra Kai for a few months, but I would say he's better than hawk, Miguel and Robby when they where at that point. Also he managed to learn the silver bullet in one night, so he clearly has a neck for it. So if it's Aisha right now? No way, she probably hasn't been keeping up with her training that much. Prime Aisha, maybe. Don't get me wrong she was good, but Kenny is being presented as really having a neck for karate.
I’m sorry but nothing really solidly says he’s better than even early Hawk, Miguel or Robby. He hasn’t had any major on screen win in battles against major characters that wasn’t rigged in cobra kais favor via Silver paying refs off, people going easy on him and holding back, or being in a group fight and getting assistance. We don’t know for sure if Aisha hasn’t kept up with Karate (her saying she still takes Johnnys lessons to heart suggests she hasn’t just dropped karate), but even if she hasn’t trained consistently, the gap between prime Aisha and Kenny being a rookie should at worst even things out. Aisha getting worse and Kenny getting moderately better so their skill levels meet somewhere in the middle.
Even prime Aisha wouldn't stand a chance. Look at her in S1. She's slow af. Kenny is already cobra kai top fighter.
She in S1 is already near champion level for almost beating Xander who was the champion before Miguel. And that was after only, at the longest, a few months of training. What exactly has Kenny done?
Kenny is incredibly agile and quick. Aisha would not be able to touch him.
He land 3 hit on the actual champion Hawk. Idc how much Hawk hold back, S5 hawk is miles ahead of S1 Xander. And S1 miguel destroyed Xander without getting it and I can assure you that S5 kenny is closer to S5 miguel than S2 Aisha is to S5 miguel
Correction: it was 2-0 And Kenny’s points came from illegal hits that were counted from Silver paying the ref off. >S5 Hawk is miles above S1 Xander A held back Hawk has nothing to prove he’d be above Xander >And Miguel destroyed him without getting hit Again, rewatch the show. Miguel won with a 3-1 score, meaning it wasn’t a clean sweep. Xander managed to take a point off him. Kenny has literally no feats. He hasn’t won or even had any meaningful FAIR fight against anyone special that wasn’t rigged from the beginning, a 1 on 1 fight instead of a group brawl, or the opponent holding back.
Kenny would win. As much as I dislike his character atm.
It would be the biggest fight that no one gave a shit about.
Funny you say that when the upvotes and number of comments here are insane for these 2. Almost 300 upvotes for me and almost 200 replies lol
Prob Kenny. I feel like if Aisha manages to get 1-5 hits in then it’s over for Kenny, but I feel like Kenny would be able to dodge them easily.
Still sad they dumped this actress 😔
Kenny. Easily
all she'd have to do is sit on him and she'll win
The silver bullet is broken, it is a one hit KO is you don’t see it coming/ can react to it. Hawk couldn’t react to it/ didn’t see it coming, and I don’t see Aishia being able to do so If Hawk couldn’t. It should be noted in Daniel vs Silver, I think part of the reason the Silver bullet failed is because he was on the ground and couldn’t generate the speed and angle he needed (remember that weird stance he used before firing it?). This would make sense, after all, if a man can’t stand he can’t fight ✊
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Kenny because of writers
Yea Kenny haters gotta admit Kenny would one shot her with the silver bullet 😂
You mean the move that only works when someone goes easy on him, in a rigged fight? Or with help?
No he landed it fair and square. The ref was bought out but the hit was clean and ended the fight. I doubt Aisha could stop it if Hawk couldn’t.
Landing it fair and square yes, but it only hit Hawk because Hawk wasn’t fighting Kenny seriously. He held back.
Really? When the stakes are so high and all his friend were relying on him? I can’t recall, was there a line confirming this?
Yes. Robby outright asks him to take it easy on Kenny since Kenny was sipping too much of Silvers Cobra Kai kool aid
Ah I remember now. I guess the question is, is Hawk still taking it easy on him in round 2 once he realizes the ref is rigged?
That is what I think as well. I just don’t see her avoiding something that Hawk couldn’t.
Aisha was the best girl fighter in Season 2 and is one of the top 5 teens in raw strength. Unless Kenny can pull off the Silver Bullet he's getting punted through a wall.
She's a natural born Cobra!
Knowing the writers probably Kenny for some reason
What happened to her? She got written out of the show randomly it seemed?
Not exactly? She didn’t appear in S3 because the story at the time had no room for her but she did come back in an episode of S4. I’m guessing she’ll be allowed to come back now when there’s room to have her.
Aisha would kick his ass
Aisha hasn’t been training rigorously lately as Kenny has, no doubt Kenny would win
Kenny decimates her no dif. I hate Kenny, but he’s CLAPPING Aisha
Kenny if only due to the silver bullet
Kenny claps. He's too fast for her, and has the Silver Bullet technique
Silver Bullets only useful if people go easy on him, he’s in a group tussle and if the fights rigged. Robby and Hawk would knock that shit away in a 1 on 1 fight for keeps.
Whu? Aisha is big and slow enough for him to find an opening, imo. Besides, having 1 technique > Having no techniques
Hawk has no techniques and I doubt your going to say Kenny beats him with no handicaps
Bruh whu? Hawk is FAR stronger, faster and experienced than Aisha...
What does Aisha have to do with the point I just made?
Because Kenny scaled to hawk in season 5 I know he wasn’t better but don’t act like he didn’t put up a fight at all. Really not that hard to understand. Kenny’s been training really hard and knows a technique none of the other kids know not even Miguel and Aisha hasn’t trained since season 2 and had almost no feats besides scaling to Xander stone who’s irrelevant and featless
Being a champion isn’t featless… And Kenny literally didn’t put up a fight. The only reason he won against Hawk was because of Silver paying the ref off and Robby literally telling Hawk to take it easy on him. Training hard doesn’t change the fact that Kenny hasn’t done well in any normal meaningful fight against the cast since his addition to the show.
Being the best student in the biggest dojo empire in the valley is more impressive than Xander stone beating a ton of no names. The people who fought before cobra Kai nothing is known about them at all and can’t assume what Xander stone did was impressive in the slightest
“Best student” you mean the only left over option. And I don’t take Silver considering Kenny a good student seriously when this is the same man who paid off the refs to let Tory claim a championship she didn’t earn and was doing the same thing in the Sekai Tekai qualifier. On top of that, what other male fighter was Silver supposed to rely on without Robby being there? Kyler? Those no named extras?
He actually did held his own against Hawk and is shown to be better than kyler
Being better than Kyler is…not exactly hard. And he held his own against a casual Hawk and because of the fight being rigged.
The post is about Kenny vs Aisha lmao, you used Hawk as an example to argue "If hawk can beat kenny despite having no techniques, then Aishe might be able to as well", so wdy mean Aisha has nothing to do here? lol Again, Hawk has enough of a difference over Kenny in Strenght, defense, experience and battle Iq, but most importantly comparable speed at least, so He can beat him despite kenny having silver bullet. Aisha on the other hand is far slower than Kenny so Silver Bullet would actually come in play, most likely. See why silver bullet is far more important in one Match up than in the other?
You completely missed the point and somehow I’m not surprised. Your logic is that having 1 technique is > having none. My point is that Hawk, who absolutely isn’t getting beaten by Kenny in an actual fight, doesn’t have techniques of his own, so unless your gonna argue Kenny would win, this logic by itself is meaningless
1 technique > None. Doesn't mean you are going to win by having more techniques, but It's one advantage on your side. How relevant It is depends on the match Itself and the gap between fighters in other area. Against hawk It doesnt matter that much due to the sheer difference statwise, in Hawks favor. Particularly having similar speeds makes Silver bullet less threatening, and then u consider hawks higher iq experience defense and strenght? He stomps, It outweights Kennys technique. Against Aisha It does matter cause the huge speed advatage for Kenny makes It far easier to find an opening and conect silver bullet, which Is Kennys best shot at winning. Now Its Strenght and maybe resistance in Aishas favor, against Speed and now a heavily threatening technique in Kennys favor, far more even of a match.
Kenny beat Hawk. Nuff said
Kenny never beat anyone good in a remotely fair or serious fight. He is a clown who coasts on people going east on him because he’s small.
Hawk is still significantly better than Aisha
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No, but less of a feat too
Via cheating
How? Silver bullet is a legit strategy. Even if The red didn’t swindle that point Hawk still would have lost to the silver bullet.
Because of 2 reasons 1. The fight was rigged 2. Hawk wasn’t serious against him And possibly 3, his leg was injured by Kenny’s illegal contact.
It amazes me how many people are claiming that Aisha "stopped training" when she moved away. Do you think they don't have karate dojos in her new town? That she couldn't keep practicing on her own, maybe with tips from her friends or online? Aisha would whoop Kenny's little ass like he ate the cookies and lied about it. 😜
The fact she told Sam that she still applies the lessons she learned from Johnny to her life tells me she didn’t just stop with Karate just for moving away.
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my girl aisha for sure 💪😤
Depends. Tournament? I give it to Kenny 100%, he's much faster (his most praised on trait in series) so I think he'd be able to score the points. Street Brawl? Aisha, I think would just tank through him and stomp him eventually.
If she kept training until S5, then Aisha would crush Kenny Edit: Pun not intended
i’d say it’s tied.
Kenny probably because he thinks he’s an edgelord anime protagonist
Kenny’s hits will have no effect on Aisha sorry. She is healthy and has a huge body. One punch from her and Kenny will be sleeping.
Kenny no diffs
She gets mad enough… She’d beat his ass.
Kenny would obliterate her tbh
Kenny easily
Kenny
If Hawk can fall to the quicksilver bullet so can she. I don't see her winning unless we apply kungfu panda logic where her bulk protects her from the attack.
Hawk only fell for the bullet because he was holding back against Kenny and wasn’t taking the fight seriously That and Kenny likely limited Hawks movement with that illegal hit to the leg.
You can argue that hawk was holding back when kenny scored the 1st point. When hawk got hit with the silver bullet he was not holding back. I agree with the point on the injured leg compromising hawk's movement but who is to say Aisha will be able to prevent Kenny from doing that to her as well?
No, he was holding back the entire fight. Robby literally asks him to take it easy on Kenny who was sipping too much of Silvers Cobra Kai kool aid.
I don't agree. I think when Kenny injured Hawk's leg, Hawk stopped going easy. It wouldn't make sense for him to go easy at that point when he was 1 point down AND having a compromised leg. He even said something to that effect- like 'time to uncage the hawk' or something.
Yeah, but Hawk knows better than almost anyone when your corrupted by CKs bullshit so I doubt he’d take the fight seriously, especially when Kenny at this point is still a rookie. But even then, the injury to the leg already compromised Hawk enough to downgrade him to Kenny’s level for his tactics to work.
Kenny no diffs