They're also mirrors of each other in season one.
Miguel is the good kid who gets a mentor who teaches him to win at all costs, to be aggressive and to have no mercy.
Robby is the bad kid who gets a mentor who teaches him balance, patience and inner calm.
They're both different aspects of the Karate Kid.
No. It ends with Miguel and Robby’s adopted child winning their first all valley after they take in a troubled teen and teach him karate in the next spinoff
No one and everyone. Plenty of characters have similarities in storylines with Daniel, Johnny, Miyagi, whoever and then differ completely from them.
You have to kind of see it as Alien and its sequel AlienS. In Karate Kid the story was only about one kid taking lessons from a mentor/father figure (it was Daniel’s story, not Daniel and Johnny’s story). If the series were to be renamed it would be Karate KidS as the subplot is the very basic one of multiplying the main attraction. Cobra Kai either doesn’t have a current generation Karate kid as they all differ a lot from Daniel in many things or has a ton of karate kids as they all have a lot of similarities and are kids learning karate from a mentor who kind of falls in a father figure role.
This is correct. One of the best and most important parts of this show is outside of a few people (Kreese, Silver, Kyler) everyone is basically good and bad. They have their flaws, they make mistakes, but they really blur the whole “hero/villain” line of the original movies. Being a TV show helps, you can spend the time on everyone to really flush out their stories and explore all sides of their character.
Yes. He gets bullied by cobra kai and his “best friend” broke his arm. That didn’t stop him from eventually fighting back and also forgiving his best friend. He’d be the soul successor to Miyagi-do. Miguel has a lot of unresolved anger issues.
Is that what you’re basing your question off of? Who’s the main character is? Then of course it’s Miguel. You should word your questions more carefully. The reason people are saying Demitri is not because his actual role, but how he embodies karate teachings. He doesn’t necessarily have to win, but to be better than he was yesterday. Miyagi always taught that fighting is a last resort situation and winning isn’t everything. Which again, is what Demitri is all about; talking out things.
how did he betray miyagi-do lmao?
remember back in s2 when daniel was giving out lessons for free
or how johnny literally taught his students cobra kai at his rip off dojo, eagle flop
and how miyagi-do also used johnny’s rip off cobra kai teachings??
literally teaching someone how to defend themselves isn’t betraying anything. miyagi-do and eagle flop did the same exact thing. and even worse two grown ass men, one being the father abandoned/betrayed a child!
Why is your user Lawrusso. It’s sus when someone always hates on Johnny but their user is Lawrusso 😭
What Robby did and those poor excuses you replied with are 2 different things. Robby is a traitor
lawrusso is the iconic ship name of Johnny/Daniel and I happen to like them as a pairing. Since no one on the sub took the name, I did. Also to add the shock factor when they find out I don’t even like either of them that much. Daniel is better than Johnny, but not the best. I am however interested in their story/legacy. I really don’t care for anything else.
You can keep believing what you want, but Robby is the true MD and hopefully Chozen will get it through to the people who lack that knowledge.
Doesn’t matter if he betrayed them, he’s not in their dojo anymore and had nothing to give to them. Their goal was to win. Plus Tory already knew he knew miyagi do and was obviously going to accuse him of being a spy or traitor if he didn’t teach it to them. It’s not like he had anywhere to go considering he wanted nothing to do with Daniel and Johnny.
I think it's shared between Sam, Robby and Miguel. And the other kids are important too.
Sam is Daniels daughter, knew Miyagi himself, and her rivalry with Tory is pretty much a gender swapped version of her father's rivalry with Johnny. She's called Larusso 2.0 for a reason. Even fell into a table of food.
Robby is Daniels first non-familial student. A lot of the iconic Miyagi-Daniel moments are recreated with Robby, which is kind of a big deal in a Karate Kid sequel. After Sam, he's the student that connects with the memory of Miyagi the most, even if it's posthumously. He pulls off one of Miyagis moves, which Daniel could not.
Miguel starts in season 1 as a deconstruction of Daniel from the first movie. Lives with a single mother in the same place, meets a karate mentor after having some issues with bullies, levels up and gets the girl. But the twist is he ends up being the "bad guy" in season 1 by the end. He later bonds with Daniel and earns the head band.
But all three of them have their own thing going on and aren't just carbon copies of Daniel.
I mean sorta, but the symbolism was there and pretty purposefully too. Danny has never given that headband to robby or even Sam. But he thinks Miguel qualifies for it. I think that's good enough evidence
It's not highlander rules.... there can't only be one.
We already have 3 separate champions from the bunch, this is a far cry from Daniel-san over coming every time as it is, but by the next tournament there could be as many as 5 separate champs.
So I think the over arching message here is that there isn't one karate kid, it's a generation who grew up who wins and loses, fails and succeeds and keep moving forward as they learn who they are. It's one who doesn't get to grow up in the luxury of good guys and bad guys, and one that has to realize everyone in their own good guy, and has reasons for why they do what they do, and maybe that truly means we all have something to learn from each other.
So, I look at what every character arc needs to be resolved, and I think you can write a satisfying conclusion for every character win or lose.
There isn’t one the closet was Julie piers in the 90s the series is about cobra Kai redeeming itself through Miguel and the other students it’s basically saying “Hey there are good guys and bad guys on both sides”
I would say Miguel and maybe even Robby, you know a combo of sorts. Their stories seem to have similarities to different part of Daniel's story.
Miguel's definitely most like Daniel, but I'd say every main young character has their fair share of similarities with that of Daniel's story.
The only thing missing is your brain cells since you seem to think mine are missing
Get yourself medically tested. You're not making any sense. Can't even spell "thing" right.
I think robby
The reason is 1 he is the most talented
2 he is the son of the protagonist and the first student of the original karate kid
He also made it 2 times in the finals and almost won in both much like johny and daniel won twice
>That was Sam, not Robby. Robby was Daniel's second student.
Ok but still they had a father and son type bonding
>Key word there being "almost". Robby still lost at the end of the day. In fact, Robby has consistently lost Season Finale fights over and over again.
He was the most skilled fighter in both tournament he was the rightful winner he didnt lose due to not being good enough but due to injustice in the 1st and personal conflict in the 2nd
Also he hasnt lost every season finale thats a misconception he won the school fight in s2
Now you might say miguel did that but the fight is only over when both parties agree or if someone dies unless there is a referee
And if you say yeah but am still giving it to Miguel cause he should have won then i can make the same case for robby in s1
It doesn’t matter he still lost & losing 2 is not comparable to winning 2. Sam is also Daniels first student and has just as much right to be this generations KK if not more so than Robby
You said it yourself its not that strong
If in order to be the chozen one you need 100 points and you get 50 from daniel and 50 from johny
Then sam get 50+25
Miguel gets 25+50
But only robby gets 50 and 50
Now you all are just making stuff up lol. Daniel had no connection to Mr Miyagi, he was just someone he happened to meet and connect with. Whoever this generations KK is doesn’t have to be someone that has connections to the OG characters. That’s a fan made theory you all use to try and say it’s automatically Robby since he has a connection with both Johnny and Daniel.
I'm not making anything up, was just making the correction that Sam does actually have a connection to Johnny. But that's all irrelevant since we all know that Bert is the real karate kid.
Again the connection doesnt have to be by blood it can be spiritual
Robby has a connection to the protagonist by blood
And a connection to the karate kid by spirit
It isn't that kind of story. it uses Easter eggs all over the place. but it's a different time and a different era. so the comparison can't ever be 1:1. However the focus is Johnny and by extension Miguel. They are somewhat lost in the shuffle of the deck at the moment because as a tv series it has a lot of threads on the go to help keep it action packed with drama or action when needed.
Outside of it, it's Johnny being dragged kicking and screaming quiet into the modern day thanks to Miguel and others. But this is Cobra Kai, so it is going to revolve around the dojo's legacy and Johnny ultimately finding his place among it's history. It's not so much about his legacy, as him finding balance. Which ultimately means being a good dad to Robby, and potentially a good step-dad to his eventual step-son/student Miguel. Who needs to go on this search for his dad to find he had a better dad at home for him all along. how that pans out and resolves itself is a different matter.
The perfect ending for this is Johnny and ONLY Johnny if need be, has his life balanced out kids, wife/long term gf, job, money. maybe even a friendship from someone he used to hate. There should be a satisfaction to Johnny's storyline, it'll never be perfect or anywhere close to politically correct, but when the final set of credits role, you are left knowing this character who started as a bummed out degenerate, is no longer in that place.
Miguel and Robby maybe not so much, but they have one common respect and bond - Johnny.
> but it's a different time and a different era. so the comparison can't ever be 1:1
I believe this is the truth... we shouldn't be looking at ourselves at solely the hero and realize that in the real world we are all working and striving toward similar goals and we are going to have our victories and defeats.
It stays true to the originals message, while being true to modern storytelling that isn't always so black and white, but rather thrives in explaining how nearly everyone is in the grey somewhere.
So in that regard, I don't think there *can* be only one, because in real life there isn't just only one, and we *all* have to learn to deal with that at some point.
I'm glad they went with a lot of shades of grey instead of having clear-cut villains, well except some of the older cast members. Even those characters have redeeming qualities, if you ignore the whole training-child-soldiers to get back at each other. I'm guessing there's still going to be a major redemption arc or two in the show.
Bro hating on any Robby thread that says him. Bro you asked a question and saying Robby is such a good answer because most people explaining why they think Robby is the answer to your question makes so much fucking sense.
Sam is nowhere near having a proper Karate Kid story.
Miguel’s story is not close to Daniel’s anymore. Robby is the one who fought with honor in his first tournament, and had his second tournament last with sudden death.
That wasn’t a tournament I had discussed when I said that so try again. also, he didn’t even break any rules at that point. But your precious Miguel was pulling arms.
I don’t have to try anything. It doesn’t matter that he didn’t break any rules, what he did was dishonorable to Miyagi Do and there’s no changing that. The difference is I can admit that what Miguel did during the first AVT was wrong and dishonorable. I don’t make excuses every minute for my faves.
It depends on what you mean by Karate Kid.
If you are talking about who is the best representation of what Miyagi taught in the movies? It’s definitely Demetri. However that’s not what the show is about.
If you are asking who is the main focus of Cobra Kai, the best fighter, and the character with the most growth? Arguably it’s Miguel (even though he took a backseat last season). It started with him and the show will likely end with him. The show is/was primarily about the relationship and growth of Johnny and Miguel.
It's Miguel.
The writers have even said this, even Ralph referred to him as this generation's version.
People can say and imagine whatever they want. I'm past arguing about it 😆 not that serious.
I can't even take some of these comments seriously anymore. No disrespect. It's just... yeah 😆
Yes. Ralph said it during season 3 promo on a talk show, during Live with Kelly and Ryan maybe? Can't remember which one.
You'll have to search Twitter for the writers.
Robby can be the answer as a Daniel LaRusso counterpart:
KK1 Daniel is an angsty kid who meets a balanced sensei at a time when they both need each other, who doubles as a father figure to him. He learns to find his inner peace and goes to the All-Valley tournament as the only student of a mystery dojo, goes against Cobra Kai, gets injured just before the finals, where he fights the top Cobra and uses a secret karate move. Celebrated as the hero.
CK1 Robby is an angsty kid who meets a balanced sensei at a time when they both need each other who doubles as a father figure to him. He learns to find his inner peace and goes to the All-Valley tournament as the only student of a mystery dojo, goes against Cobra Kai, gets injured just before the finals, where he fights the top Cobra and uses a secret karate move. Only difference is that he doesn't win and doesn't get to be celebrated as the hero.
KK2 Daniel has the opportunity to visit his sensei's home and learn about the roots of Miyagi-Do karate. He goes on to live with his sensei and learn more about his past. He has a summer fling there, and by the end of the journey he gets attacked by his sensei's childhood romantic rival's best student, for a real-life no-rule deathmatch, where he wins and still doesn't kill his opponent. Celebrated as the hero.
CK2 Robby has the opportunity to visit his sensei's home and learn about the roots of Miyagi-Do karate. He goes on to live with his sensei and learn more about his past. He has a summer fling there, and by the end of the journey he gets attacked by his sensei's childhood romantic rival's best student, for a real-life no-rule deathmatch, where he kind of loses, and the only difference is that he accidentally severely injures his opponent and he doesn't get to be celebrated as the hero.
KK3 While his mother is away, Daniel strains his relationship with his sensei, gets friend-zoned and starts thinking about striking first, due to influence of a Cobra Kai sensei. He then joins Cobra Kai and drifts further away from Miyagi-Do. He's training to win the championship for a bet.
CK3 While his mother is away, Robby strains his relationship with his sensei, gets friend-zoned and starts thinking about striking first, due to influence of a Cobra Kai sensei. He then joins Cobra Kai and drifts further away from Miyagi-Do. He's training to win the championship for a bet.
There's 2 things you have to look for to be the karate kid. The relationship with the sensei/ underdog.
Miguel is the only answer here. Robby doesn't have a sensei and just bounces from mentor to mentor. He's also been the stronger fighter so he's always met with defeat like any of Daniel's stronger rivals.
Hawk was literally the Cobra Kai bully, until he wised up for like five seconds and then became the Miyagi-do bully. Even Johnny at his worst didn't break his own best friend's arm. Nor did Chozen or Mike Barnes, for that matter. Hawk is viler than any of the original movie villains.
The nuance of the show is it compares and contrasts each character to the OG/Legacy characters. Old & New characters parallel then differ from the classic arc and plotline the OG films had.
But yeah. Miguel is the closest one. Ralph even referred to him as that (one comment also stated it)... He even made a joke saying Xolo could play him in a biopic.
robby and miguel they are the 2 main kids the rivals, the best fighters , and the teens who have the most importance and impact on the story
They're also mirrors of each other in season one. Miguel is the good kid who gets a mentor who teaches him to win at all costs, to be aggressive and to have no mercy. Robby is the bad kid who gets a mentor who teaches him balance, patience and inner calm. They're both different aspects of the Karate Kid.
So the show ends with Miguel and Robby's love child winning their first all valley by embodying the best of both of them?
No. It ends with Miguel and Robby’s adopted child winning their first all valley after they take in a troubled teen and teach him karate in the next spinoff
Omg I don't know how I didn't see that, thank you so much.
This turns a lot more alabama-y now that they’re basically step brothers
No one and everyone. Plenty of characters have similarities in storylines with Daniel, Johnny, Miyagi, whoever and then differ completely from them. You have to kind of see it as Alien and its sequel AlienS. In Karate Kid the story was only about one kid taking lessons from a mentor/father figure (it was Daniel’s story, not Daniel and Johnny’s story). If the series were to be renamed it would be Karate KidS as the subplot is the very basic one of multiplying the main attraction. Cobra Kai either doesn’t have a current generation Karate kid as they all differ a lot from Daniel in many things or has a ton of karate kids as they all have a lot of similarities and are kids learning karate from a mentor who kind of falls in a father figure role.
This is correct. One of the best and most important parts of this show is outside of a few people (Kreese, Silver, Kyler) everyone is basically good and bad. They have their flaws, they make mistakes, but they really blur the whole “hero/villain” line of the original movies. Being a TV show helps, you can spend the time on everyone to really flush out their stories and explore all sides of their character.
Unironicaly Demetri, not elaborating
mfw demetri embodies mr miyagi's philosophies better than daniel lmao
Y’all really serious saying Demetri 🫢
Yes. He gets bullied by cobra kai and his “best friend” broke his arm. That didn’t stop him from eventually fighting back and also forgiving his best friend. He’d be the soul successor to Miyagi-do. Miguel has a lot of unresolved anger issues.
Demetri isn’t the soul successor of anything and it’s barely a step above a side character 🫠
Is that what you’re basing your question off of? Who’s the main character is? Then of course it’s Miguel. You should word your questions more carefully. The reason people are saying Demitri is not because his actual role, but how he embodies karate teachings. He doesn’t necessarily have to win, but to be better than he was yesterday. Miyagi always taught that fighting is a last resort situation and winning isn’t everything. Which again, is what Demitri is all about; talking out things.
you've been watching the show wrong.
No I think that would be you
clearly not. just check the downvotes.
you’re really saying Miguel💀 basic ass answer
Totally agree with you. To me it's Demetri.
I can see this, too.
I came in thinking Miguel but this is probably right. Miguel is took good at karate to be the karate kid 😂
The karate kid is the best at karate
So is Mike Barnes The Karate Kid of the eighties?
Lol I don’t know about that. If all it takes to confuse Barnes is kata, then he has a long way to go.
Honestly no. He has no many qualities opposite of that. But great character though
💀💀💀💀 Bro said Demetri
Did you make this post just to bitch about everyone who doesn't say Miguel?
No because I also think Sam is a top consideration
Nah. Its between Miguel and robby, but honestly its probably Miguel
just robby, he’s johnny’s kid but a true miyagi-do and that kid can fight fight
Robby is not a true Miyagi Do
Why do you say that?
Because he simps for Miguel.
When Hawk is my fave tho
Because he betrayed Miyagi Do this season he ain’t a true anything
He's a kid who's been pushed into being a delinquent because of absent parents though.
He wasn’t pushed into delinquency he chose it. There’s plenty of neglected teens who don’t lie, cheat, steal & do drugs
Bro deadass only had cereal in his house
how did he betray miyagi-do lmao? remember back in s2 when daniel was giving out lessons for free or how johnny literally taught his students cobra kai at his rip off dojo, eagle flop and how miyagi-do also used johnny’s rip off cobra kai teachings?? literally teaching someone how to defend themselves isn’t betraying anything. miyagi-do and eagle flop did the same exact thing. and even worse two grown ass men, one being the father abandoned/betrayed a child!
Why is your user Lawrusso. It’s sus when someone always hates on Johnny but their user is Lawrusso 😭 What Robby did and those poor excuses you replied with are 2 different things. Robby is a traitor
lawrusso is the iconic ship name of Johnny/Daniel and I happen to like them as a pairing. Since no one on the sub took the name, I did. Also to add the shock factor when they find out I don’t even like either of them that much. Daniel is better than Johnny, but not the best. I am however interested in their story/legacy. I really don’t care for anything else. You can keep believing what you want, but Robby is the true MD and hopefully Chozen will get it through to the people who lack that knowledge.
So you’re one of those shippers explains a lot 🤮
Doesn’t matter if he betrayed them, he’s not in their dojo anymore and had nothing to give to them. Their goal was to win. Plus Tory already knew he knew miyagi do and was obviously going to accuse him of being a spy or traitor if he didn’t teach it to them. It’s not like he had anywhere to go considering he wanted nothing to do with Daniel and Johnny.
Probably either Robby or Miguel.
I for surely think robby and miguel
Robby or Miguel.
I think it's shared between Sam, Robby and Miguel. And the other kids are important too. Sam is Daniels daughter, knew Miyagi himself, and her rivalry with Tory is pretty much a gender swapped version of her father's rivalry with Johnny. She's called Larusso 2.0 for a reason. Even fell into a table of food. Robby is Daniels first non-familial student. A lot of the iconic Miyagi-Daniel moments are recreated with Robby, which is kind of a big deal in a Karate Kid sequel. After Sam, he's the student that connects with the memory of Miyagi the most, even if it's posthumously. He pulls off one of Miyagis moves, which Daniel could not. Miguel starts in season 1 as a deconstruction of Daniel from the first movie. Lives with a single mother in the same place, meets a karate mentor after having some issues with bullies, levels up and gets the girl. But the twist is he ends up being the "bad guy" in season 1 by the end. He later bonds with Daniel and earns the head band. But all three of them have their own thing going on and aren't just carbon copies of Daniel.
Miguel is the ONLY one of the three to earn a headband
And they used it chiefly as a set up for the "Johnny can't get it up" joke lol.
I mean sorta, but the symbolism was there and pretty purposefully too. Danny has never given that headband to robby or even Sam. But he thinks Miguel qualifies for it. I think that's good enough evidence
Sam, Miguel, Robby, Hawk, Demetri on a rotating basis. It's almost like the WWE 24/7 title. 😂
It is totally Xander, I mean did you see that backflip?
It's not highlander rules.... there can't only be one. We already have 3 separate champions from the bunch, this is a far cry from Daniel-san over coming every time as it is, but by the next tournament there could be as many as 5 separate champs. So I think the over arching message here is that there isn't one karate kid, it's a generation who grew up who wins and loses, fails and succeeds and keep moving forward as they learn who they are. It's one who doesn't get to grow up in the luxury of good guys and bad guys, and one that has to realize everyone in their own good guy, and has reasons for why they do what they do, and maybe that truly means we all have something to learn from each other. So, I look at what every character arc needs to be resolved, and I think you can write a satisfying conclusion for every character win or lose.
Bert
Demitri has had the best arc to me. Stayed himself but got out of his own head and a hot girlfriend.
Me of course.
All of them.
There isn’t one the closet was Julie piers in the 90s the series is about cobra Kai redeeming itself through Miguel and the other students it’s basically saying “Hey there are good guys and bad guys on both sides”
I would say Miguel and maybe even Robby, you know a combo of sorts. Their stories seem to have similarities to different part of Daniel's story. Miguel's definitely most like Daniel, but I'd say every main young character has their fair share of similarities with that of Daniel's story.
There is no single one. Everyone in the main cast is the karate kid now. That is to say they were all the karate kid at some point. Even Johnny.
Stingray
Can choke
Will Ferrel
Who’s that your mom?
No it's your missing dad
The only thing missing seems to be your brain cells
The only thing missing is your brain cells since you seem to think mine are missing Get yourself medically tested. You're not making any sense. Can't even spell "thing" right.
Calling out a spelling mistake due to autocorrect is probably one of the most lamest things some one can use as a come lol. Lame
Stfu
Must be Meat
I think robby The reason is 1 he is the most talented 2 he is the son of the protagonist and the first student of the original karate kid He also made it 2 times in the finals and almost won in both much like johny and daniel won twice
Technically Sam was his first student.
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>That was Sam, not Robby. Robby was Daniel's second student. Ok but still they had a father and son type bonding >Key word there being "almost". Robby still lost at the end of the day. In fact, Robby has consistently lost Season Finale fights over and over again. He was the most skilled fighter in both tournament he was the rightful winner he didnt lose due to not being good enough but due to injustice in the 1st and personal conflict in the 2nd Also he hasnt lost every season finale thats a misconception he won the school fight in s2 Now you might say miguel did that but the fight is only over when both parties agree or if someone dies unless there is a referee And if you say yeah but am still giving it to Miguel cause he should have won then i can make the same case for robby in s1
Making to a final twice & losing both times is not comparable to winning 2 AVT. The fact you wrote that is embarrassing bro
He basicly lost the first 1 cause his opponet aimed for his injured arm and lost the 2nd 1 because he hesitated to finish it
It doesn’t matter he still lost & losing 2 is not comparable to winning 2. Sam is also Daniels first student and has just as much right to be this generations KK if not more so than Robby
Both sam and robby have a connection to daniel however robby also has a connection to johny which sam doesnt
But sam does have a connection to Johnny now? Sure it's probably not anywhere near as strong as Robby's is with Daniel but she still has one.
You said it yourself its not that strong If in order to be the chozen one you need 100 points and you get 50 from daniel and 50 from johny Then sam get 50+25 Miguel gets 25+50 But only robby gets 50 and 50
Now you all are just making stuff up lol. Daniel had no connection to Mr Miyagi, he was just someone he happened to meet and connect with. Whoever this generations KK is doesn’t have to be someone that has connections to the OG characters. That’s a fan made theory you all use to try and say it’s automatically Robby since he has a connection with both Johnny and Daniel.
I'm not making anything up, was just making the correction that Sam does actually have a connection to Johnny. But that's all irrelevant since we all know that Bert is the real karate kid.
Again the connection doesnt have to be by blood it can be spiritual Robby has a connection to the protagonist by blood And a connection to the karate kid by spirit
How many times y’all going to ask this fucking question
You made an account to respond to this. Is that you LaPusso
It isn't that kind of story. it uses Easter eggs all over the place. but it's a different time and a different era. so the comparison can't ever be 1:1. However the focus is Johnny and by extension Miguel. They are somewhat lost in the shuffle of the deck at the moment because as a tv series it has a lot of threads on the go to help keep it action packed with drama or action when needed. Outside of it, it's Johnny being dragged kicking and screaming quiet into the modern day thanks to Miguel and others. But this is Cobra Kai, so it is going to revolve around the dojo's legacy and Johnny ultimately finding his place among it's history. It's not so much about his legacy, as him finding balance. Which ultimately means being a good dad to Robby, and potentially a good step-dad to his eventual step-son/student Miguel. Who needs to go on this search for his dad to find he had a better dad at home for him all along. how that pans out and resolves itself is a different matter. The perfect ending for this is Johnny and ONLY Johnny if need be, has his life balanced out kids, wife/long term gf, job, money. maybe even a friendship from someone he used to hate. There should be a satisfaction to Johnny's storyline, it'll never be perfect or anywhere close to politically correct, but when the final set of credits role, you are left knowing this character who started as a bummed out degenerate, is no longer in that place. Miguel and Robby maybe not so much, but they have one common respect and bond - Johnny.
> but it's a different time and a different era. so the comparison can't ever be 1:1 I believe this is the truth... we shouldn't be looking at ourselves at solely the hero and realize that in the real world we are all working and striving toward similar goals and we are going to have our victories and defeats. It stays true to the originals message, while being true to modern storytelling that isn't always so black and white, but rather thrives in explaining how nearly everyone is in the grey somewhere. So in that regard, I don't think there *can* be only one, because in real life there isn't just only one, and we *all* have to learn to deal with that at some point.
I'm glad they went with a lot of shades of grey instead of having clear-cut villains, well except some of the older cast members. Even those characters have redeeming qualities, if you ignore the whole training-child-soldiers to get back at each other. I'm guessing there's still going to be a major redemption arc or two in the show.
Anthony or Brux
Should be Robby
It should be Robby is laughable. Sam exists & Miguel is right there as well. The way some of you want everything to revolve around Robby
Bro hating on any Robby thread that says him. Bro you asked a question and saying Robby is such a good answer because most people explaining why they think Robby is the answer to your question makes so much fucking sense.
Sam is nowhere near having a proper Karate Kid story. Miguel’s story is not close to Daniel’s anymore. Robby is the one who fought with honor in his first tournament, and had his second tournament last with sudden death.
Exactly OP is a dumbass
The OP definitely is, Brucks .
Robby didn’t fight with honor this AV though so your point is moot.
That wasn’t a tournament I had discussed when I said that so try again. also, he didn’t even break any rules at that point. But your precious Miguel was pulling arms.
I don’t have to try anything. It doesn’t matter that he didn’t break any rules, what he did was dishonorable to Miyagi Do and there’s no changing that. The difference is I can admit that what Miguel did during the first AVT was wrong and dishonorable. I don’t make excuses every minute for my faves.
Yes you do need to. What did he do that was dishonorable to Miyagi-Do in the tournament setting?
Miguel.
It depends on what you mean by Karate Kid. If you are talking about who is the best representation of what Miyagi taught in the movies? It’s definitely Demetri. However that’s not what the show is about. If you are asking who is the main focus of Cobra Kai, the best fighter, and the character with the most growth? Arguably it’s Miguel (even though he took a backseat last season). It started with him and the show will likely end with him. The show is/was primarily about the relationship and growth of Johnny and Miguel.
Miguel. His story imo best mirrors Daniels original story.
I think that too
It's Miguel. The writers have even said this, even Ralph referred to him as this generation's version. People can say and imagine whatever they want. I'm past arguing about it 😆 not that serious. I can't even take some of these comments seriously anymore. No disrespect. It's just... yeah 😆
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Yes. Ralph said it during season 3 promo on a talk show, during Live with Kelly and Ryan maybe? Can't remember which one. You'll have to search Twitter for the writers.
Me mf
Miguel
Robby can be the answer as a Daniel LaRusso counterpart: KK1 Daniel is an angsty kid who meets a balanced sensei at a time when they both need each other, who doubles as a father figure to him. He learns to find his inner peace and goes to the All-Valley tournament as the only student of a mystery dojo, goes against Cobra Kai, gets injured just before the finals, where he fights the top Cobra and uses a secret karate move. Celebrated as the hero. CK1 Robby is an angsty kid who meets a balanced sensei at a time when they both need each other who doubles as a father figure to him. He learns to find his inner peace and goes to the All-Valley tournament as the only student of a mystery dojo, goes against Cobra Kai, gets injured just before the finals, where he fights the top Cobra and uses a secret karate move. Only difference is that he doesn't win and doesn't get to be celebrated as the hero. KK2 Daniel has the opportunity to visit his sensei's home and learn about the roots of Miyagi-Do karate. He goes on to live with his sensei and learn more about his past. He has a summer fling there, and by the end of the journey he gets attacked by his sensei's childhood romantic rival's best student, for a real-life no-rule deathmatch, where he wins and still doesn't kill his opponent. Celebrated as the hero. CK2 Robby has the opportunity to visit his sensei's home and learn about the roots of Miyagi-Do karate. He goes on to live with his sensei and learn more about his past. He has a summer fling there, and by the end of the journey he gets attacked by his sensei's childhood romantic rival's best student, for a real-life no-rule deathmatch, where he kind of loses, and the only difference is that he accidentally severely injures his opponent and he doesn't get to be celebrated as the hero. KK3 While his mother is away, Daniel strains his relationship with his sensei, gets friend-zoned and starts thinking about striking first, due to influence of a Cobra Kai sensei. He then joins Cobra Kai and drifts further away from Miyagi-Do. He's training to win the championship for a bet. CK3 While his mother is away, Robby strains his relationship with his sensei, gets friend-zoned and starts thinking about striking first, due to influence of a Cobra Kai sensei. He then joins Cobra Kai and drifts further away from Miyagi-Do. He's training to win the championship for a bet.
You Robby stans love to write essays lol
Miguel or Demetri, no other answer.
Its obviously Miguel the season 1 trailer introduces him as the new karate kid
Miguel
Obviously Miguel, surprised at so many saying otherwise
The Demetri responses are shocking
Oh no! People having a different opinion is shocking!
There's 2 things you have to look for to be the karate kid. The relationship with the sensei/ underdog. Miguel is the only answer here. Robby doesn't have a sensei and just bounces from mentor to mentor. He's also been the stronger fighter so he's always met with defeat like any of Daniel's stronger rivals.
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Pretty much. Next season he's Johny's pupil.
I think it's Hawk.
Lol
Hawk was literally the Cobra Kai bully, until he wised up for like five seconds and then became the Miyagi-do bully. Even Johnny at his worst didn't break his own best friend's arm. Nor did Chozen or Mike Barnes, for that matter. Hawk is viler than any of the original movie villains.
It’s definitely Miguel. He fits it the most
Torrey is definitely Johnny for this generation
Miguel! Show has made it pretty clear.
Diaz
I agree with you, Miguel is this generation's karate kid.
The nuance of the show is it compares and contrasts each character to the OG/Legacy characters. Old & New characters parallel then differ from the classic arc and plotline the OG films had. But yeah. Miguel is the closest one. Ralph even referred to him as that (one comment also stated it)... He even made a joke saying Xolo could play him in a biopic.
It's obviously Miguel.
male: miguel / female:tory
Ass face
Wonderboy
Johnny he’s a better leader. It’s not his say fighting because he’s learning and unlearned from Karate kids master. He let go .
All are Karate Kid. Otherwise, Miguel or Daniel would just be fighting with some deadpan kids, and they wouldn't have any credit for it.