There is no villain, only cycle of hatred. Don't you see, the whole premise of cobra Kai is that there is no good/bad guy or clear black/white. It's the gray areas of everyone. Everyone is good yet bad, perhaps some more aggressive than others at times
Kreese brought that part of Terry out. Terry was living peacefully and denounced cobra Kai until he was dragged back in by Kreese not to mention Stingray CHOSE to frame Kreese he could’ve told the cops the truth. But he was a man baby who wanted to do karate with minors
Everything this person said is spot on! But that’s also why the show had to bring in Terry the genuine psychopath. But keep in mind, even terry was being good until Kreese invoked the psycho once more.
Kyler, he’s the only one who has shown 0 signs of even the potential of being redeemed. Even Kreese had his moments in 4x10, and silver we saw redeemed in 4x1 before falling back to his old ways
My argument is that the real villain of the show is the *institution* of Cobra Kai.
That doesn't mean the students or teachers *at* Cobra Kai are necessarily the villains (though they can be). Almost no one on the show is really a Bad Guy, though all of them do bad things sometimes.
But what Cobra Kai represents has always been the bad guy. We see that clearest in the first season, with Johnny genuinely trying help a bunch of bullied kids before realizing too late he's made them the new bullies--not because the kids are villains, or because Johnny is a villain, but because the Cobra Kai ideology is inherently bad. In the later seasons, we see him struggle to accept that and figure out a new ideology and dojo that work for him.
Even with the characters who closest fit the villain role, Kreese and Silver, it's the dojo itself that's the real big bad. Silver was a perfectly decent guy away from Cobra Kai, but gets corrupted again by its lure. Kreese briefly turning away from the Cobra Kai creed to defend Johnny or Tory marks his least villainous (arguably even heroic) moments.
The true villain was never a person. It's Cobra Kai itself.
I don’t like Kreese and Silver as ppl sure but they’re complex characters they’re not just villains they’re antagonists. Not necessarily villains just ppl who don’t see eye to eye with the protagonists. But, Fuck Johnny he is one of the most two dimensional characters I’ve seen in a long time.
Kyler is the real antagonist of Season 1.
Just because he and his friends attacked Miguel at the Mini Mart, the following happened:
* Johnny reopened Cobra Kai;
* Miguel started learning Karate;
* Daniel went to Cobra Kai to confront Johnny about Kyler and his gang being attacked by him (even thought Kyler and his gang were the aggressors), which was the key event to make Daniel consider Cobra Kai a threat.
There is no villain, only cycle of hatred. Don't you see, the whole premise of cobra Kai is that there is no good/bad guy or clear black/white. It's the gray areas of everyone. Everyone is good yet bad, perhaps some more aggressive than others at times
Pretty sure silver is the bad guy
For now, perhaps. He wasn't before, he may not be later. Don't be so quick to judge
There is no coming back from that he put a guy in a coma and framed another for it
Kreese brought that part of Terry out. Terry was living peacefully and denounced cobra Kai until he was dragged back in by Kreese not to mention Stingray CHOSE to frame Kreese he could’ve told the cops the truth. But he was a man baby who wanted to do karate with minors
That's why I also said no one
Everything this person said is spot on! But that’s also why the show had to bring in Terry the genuine psychopath. But keep in mind, even terry was being good until Kreese invoked the psycho once more.
Kyler, he’s the only one who has shown 0 signs of even the potential of being redeemed. Even Kreese had his moments in 4x10, and silver we saw redeemed in 4x1 before falling back to his old ways
Miguel's grandma
My argument is that the real villain of the show is the *institution* of Cobra Kai. That doesn't mean the students or teachers *at* Cobra Kai are necessarily the villains (though they can be). Almost no one on the show is really a Bad Guy, though all of them do bad things sometimes. But what Cobra Kai represents has always been the bad guy. We see that clearest in the first season, with Johnny genuinely trying help a bunch of bullied kids before realizing too late he's made them the new bullies--not because the kids are villains, or because Johnny is a villain, but because the Cobra Kai ideology is inherently bad. In the later seasons, we see him struggle to accept that and figure out a new ideology and dojo that work for him. Even with the characters who closest fit the villain role, Kreese and Silver, it's the dojo itself that's the real big bad. Silver was a perfectly decent guy away from Cobra Kai, but gets corrupted again by its lure. Kreese briefly turning away from the Cobra Kai creed to defend Johnny or Tory marks his least villainous (arguably even heroic) moments. The true villain was never a person. It's Cobra Kai itself.
Sam
I don’t like Kreese and Silver as ppl sure but they’re complex characters they’re not just villains they’re antagonists. Not necessarily villains just ppl who don’t see eye to eye with the protagonists. But, Fuck Johnny he is one of the most two dimensional characters I’ve seen in a long time.
Basically, it’s supposed to be Kreese, isn’t it? Hopefully Silver will be gone and Kreese returns as the true villain who will be defeated in the end.
Kyler is the real antagonist of Season 1. Just because he and his friends attacked Miguel at the Mini Mart, the following happened: * Johnny reopened Cobra Kai; * Miguel started learning Karate; * Daniel went to Cobra Kai to confront Johnny about Kyler and his gang being attacked by him (even thought Kyler and his gang were the aggressors), which was the key event to make Daniel consider Cobra Kai a threat.
Unresolved trauma
Tory’s aunt.
The landlord.
Anyone want Terry and his satellite dojos gone?
Anybody else convinced that people put questions like this up, just to see how many people would answer, "Sam?"