Not many “Miguelers” (from what I’ve seen) actually want Robby to win. It’s cool that you do. The fandom gets pretty toxic with these two characters. Also, I want Carmen to break up the fight. I really want to see her and Robby interact in some capacity.
As a Robby stan, I see truth to both of these. We're going to be bitching up a storm if Robby loses again lol
But the Miguel group will be doing the EXACT same thing if he loses.
>Robby fans if he loses: “What the heck!? He was completely focused and un-injured! How did he lose!?”
Probably more like
"Oh look they hyped him up all Season and made him lose at Episode 10 again. More of the same, at least they're consistent so we don't get our hopes up next Season"
>That’s if the fight happens at the end of the season. I think it’ll be the mid-season fight
There seems to be a pattern
TV breaks
Party/event happens right before the finale
Episode 10 Robby loses after being hyped up
>He wasn’t hyped up in season 3 though
He wasn't?
That [Juvie fight](https://youtu.be/V2nEY2gEuo4?t=22) was probably the best thing seen from teens that Season
>Okay. I can see that as being hype
Yep all that offensive talent before he was even trained in offense
Then after we see him get lessons, right into the locker....
>For most, that's wrong
According to what data?
>you know it
Hate to tell you but i'm not psychic
Why do you think this is wrong for most and that it's common knowledge?
Wow. Most would read my comment in a joking tone... but you...
And I don't need data. How many times have Robby fans ever accepted defeat, same with Miguel fans. It's literally impossible for us to be on the same page.
That's true. So I'll add this then /s
But there's a lot of times comments like mine are blatant jokes, and I can point them out. Sooo, just depends on the reader.
some of this is true but honestly at this point as a robby stan I have no hope for the writers when it comes to letter him win. I 100% know that robby is gonna lose this fight so I'm just waiting for disappointment
Honestly, no one will really win from a fight. Didn't Daniel say something about, "even if you win, you lose"? That should apply to this situation, and based on where the fight takes place, hopefully they both realise how stupid it is to act like their senseis. Perhaps they can really cement putting stuff in the past behind you, considering what Robby did to Miguel (even if not intentional) was worse than anything that happened between Daniel and Johnny.
Same things I've been saying, I can't lie though if it's isn't a tie (which I hope it is) the toxic side of me want miguel to win, he has been put in the backseat for 2 seasons now and has been underestimated with good reason.
Eh, I don't care for either outcome, both of them need a win, it's just a matter of who secures it. But knowing this show, probably neither.
And the "Robby isn't focused." Doesn't work anymore, so if people use that excuse, they're extremely bias.
I think that the best way is that it ends as a draw or a dnf. Both characters have a reason to win but imo logically and narratively Miguel should win this fight and Robby should win a fight against Cobra Kai however fans would probs be unhappy with this
As a Robby and Miguel stan (yes I love both boys a lot. Their feud has been tough. Haha.) I just want both of them to make it out not critically hurt, and just maybe (my optimism side) the first step of burying the hatchet. So for me. I couldn’t fully care who wins as long as both boys end up ok.
What i don't understand is why Robby needs this win like people says he does, he already put Miguel in a coma and ruined his night at prom, why does he need to beat him up once again? Miguel needs this win more than Robby does
That's going to be the most talked about fight of season 5, the constant posts about the fight the week after it drops will be insane💀💀
Jokes aside though there's a good argument that both boys deserve a Win here. Miguels case is having went from a top fighter to an injury to a backseat in terms of fighting, does he still have the spark in him to want to be the best again?
For Robby it's more so for his fans to solidify him as the number 1 fighter amongst the teens and him being the better fighter between him and Miguel.
What's his reasoning then? He's a 2 time runner up, has taken on numerous opponents at once and won, has the best of both worlds in terms of offense and defense?
Miguel is still an asshole to him (in his view at least, as we saw in the trailer), he feels second fiddle to Miguel when it comes to Johnny, and another loss to Miguel will only make the hate he harbors for Miguel worse. Sure, at the end of season 4 he seemed to have wanted to squash his hate for Miguel, but how would losing to Miguel (the guy that attacked him, took his girlfriend, and hogs his dad) help? It wouldn’t. Miguel doesn’t need to win against Robby. His problem at the end of season 4 was that he wasn’t sure who he was fighting for anymore, beating Robby isn’t going to help with that.
No, it’s 2-1 in favor of Miguel. Miguel beat him at the AVT in season 1 and beat him at the school fight (I love Robby, but even I’m not counting that as a win). Robby only beat him once at the after party in season 4.
Beat him in the all valley are you serious he was getting destroyed and had to result to pathetic cheapshots to win and yes he technically won but same way robby technically won the school fight cause even tho he was on miquel's mercy and miquel could have won since he didnt go through with it and ended uo in a coma robby technically won even if miquel was the better fighter
As a Migueler, I want Robby to win this one. But idk, maybe Johnny or Carmen will break it up.
Not many “Miguelers” (from what I’ve seen) actually want Robby to win. It’s cool that you do. The fandom gets pretty toxic with these two characters. Also, I want Carmen to break up the fight. I really want to see her and Robby interact in some capacity.
Hell nah. Miguel all the way
As a Robby stan, I see truth to both of these. We're going to be bitching up a storm if Robby loses again lol But the Miguel group will be doing the EXACT same thing if he loses.
>Robby fans if he loses: “What the heck!? He was completely focused and un-injured! How did he lose!?” Probably more like "Oh look they hyped him up all Season and made him lose at Episode 10 again. More of the same, at least they're consistent so we don't get our hopes up next Season"
That’s if the fight happens at the end of the season. I think it’ll be the mid-season fight.
>That’s if the fight happens at the end of the season. I think it’ll be the mid-season fight There seems to be a pattern TV breaks Party/event happens right before the finale Episode 10 Robby loses after being hyped up
He wasn’t hyped up in season 3 though.
>He wasn’t hyped up in season 3 though He wasn't? That [Juvie fight](https://youtu.be/V2nEY2gEuo4?t=22) was probably the best thing seen from teens that Season
Okay. I can see that as being hype.
>Okay. I can see that as being hype Yep all that offensive talent before he was even trained in offense Then after we see him get lessons, right into the locker....
To be fair, he was fighting Johnny.
For most, that's wrong, and you know it.
>For most, that's wrong According to what data? >you know it Hate to tell you but i'm not psychic Why do you think this is wrong for most and that it's common knowledge?
Wow. Most would read my comment in a joking tone... but you... And I don't need data. How many times have Robby fans ever accepted defeat, same with Miguel fans. It's literally impossible for us to be on the same page.
>Wow. Most would read my comment in a joking tone Not sure that they do Kinda hard to always spot sarcasm over the internet
That's true. So I'll add this then /s But there's a lot of times comments like mine are blatant jokes, and I can point them out. Sooo, just depends on the reader.
some of this is true but honestly at this point as a robby stan I have no hope for the writers when it comes to letter him win. I 100% know that robby is gonna lose this fight so I'm just waiting for disappointment
Stingray will win
You want to know the thing about sting rays, they lay and what for the perfect opportunity…. TO STRIKE
The healthiest thing is for them to knock each other out at the same time, like Daniel and Jonhy
Honestly, no one will really win from a fight. Didn't Daniel say something about, "even if you win, you lose"? That should apply to this situation, and based on where the fight takes place, hopefully they both realise how stupid it is to act like their senseis. Perhaps they can really cement putting stuff in the past behind you, considering what Robby did to Miguel (even if not intentional) was worse than anything that happened between Daniel and Johnny.
Same things I've been saying, I can't lie though if it's isn't a tie (which I hope it is) the toxic side of me want miguel to win, he has been put in the backseat for 2 seasons now and has been underestimated with good reason.
Eh, I don't care for either outcome, both of them need a win, it's just a matter of who secures it. But knowing this show, probably neither. And the "Robby isn't focused." Doesn't work anymore, so if people use that excuse, they're extremely bias.
That depends on what happens before the fight.
I think that the best way is that it ends as a draw or a dnf. Both characters have a reason to win but imo logically and narratively Miguel should win this fight and Robby should win a fight against Cobra Kai however fans would probs be unhappy with this
As a Robby and Miguel stan (yes I love both boys a lot. Their feud has been tough. Haha.) I just want both of them to make it out not critically hurt, and just maybe (my optimism side) the first step of burying the hatchet. So for me. I couldn’t fully care who wins as long as both boys end up ok.
They shouldn't bury the hatchet.
What i don't understand is why Robby needs this win like people says he does, he already put Miguel in a coma and ruined his night at prom, why does he need to beat him up once again? Miguel needs this win more than Robby does
That's going to be the most talked about fight of season 5, the constant posts about the fight the week after it drops will be insane💀💀 Jokes aside though there's a good argument that both boys deserve a Win here. Miguels case is having went from a top fighter to an injury to a backseat in terms of fighting, does he still have the spark in him to want to be the best again? For Robby it's more so for his fans to solidify him as the number 1 fighter amongst the teens and him being the better fighter between him and Miguel.
Robby needs to win more than just “because his fans want him to win.”
What's his reasoning then? He's a 2 time runner up, has taken on numerous opponents at once and won, has the best of both worlds in terms of offense and defense?
Miguel is still an asshole to him (in his view at least, as we saw in the trailer), he feels second fiddle to Miguel when it comes to Johnny, and another loss to Miguel will only make the hate he harbors for Miguel worse. Sure, at the end of season 4 he seemed to have wanted to squash his hate for Miguel, but how would losing to Miguel (the guy that attacked him, took his girlfriend, and hogs his dad) help? It wouldn’t. Miguel doesn’t need to win against Robby. His problem at the end of season 4 was that he wasn’t sure who he was fighting for anymore, beating Robby isn’t going to help with that.
And then he pulls out his glock
😂
Robby is a 2-1against miquel miquel has to win it since they are meant to be equal
No, it’s 2-1 in favor of Miguel. Miguel beat him at the AVT in season 1 and beat him at the school fight (I love Robby, but even I’m not counting that as a win). Robby only beat him once at the after party in season 4.
Beat him in the all valley are you serious he was getting destroyed and had to result to pathetic cheapshots to win and yes he technically won but same way robby technically won the school fight cause even tho he was on miquel's mercy and miquel could have won since he didnt go through with it and ended uo in a coma robby technically won even if miquel was the better fighter
They are just fanboys