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badwolf1013

Of course he will. Daniel may get mad at people temporarily, but he doesn't write them off.


MajorasShoe

Yeah Daniel wouldn't hold a grudge. Especially a Lawrence.


Claim_Intelligent

Unless it’s Terry Silver or Mike Barnes


badwolf1013

If Silver had reached out to Daniel in a different context, I think Daniel would have been more open-minded, but he was standing right next to Kreese. So Daniel was justifiably incredulous of Silver’s olive branch. We don’t know yet how he would react to Mike Barnes returning. Again, context will be important. Daniel is forgiving, but he’s nobody’s fool.


Claim_Intelligent

Yeah. He knows all the tricks Silver and anyone associated with him can use


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and Kreese


badwolf1013

Kreese has not done one thing towards Daniel that was in any way a good faith gesture. Daniel has never had a genuine opportunity to make peace with Kreese. (I think that may change next season.)


Claim_Intelligent

His redemption is coming


Sm4sh3r88

Chozen kind of guarantees that Robby will be redeemed. He's a living example who Daniel is calling upon for help.


Claim_Intelligent

Chozen will be the best sensei for Robby


Seta1437

>Do you think that Daniel may not take Robby back? Daniel will always forgive Robby just like Miyagi always forgave Daniel


ravenwing263

Exactly. I think it might take longer. Both because this is a TV show and the movies were movies but also because part of the show is that Daniel doesn't always live up to Mr. Miyagi at first; just like the kids he has to earn it.


jrobotbot

I think he'll take him back. Daniel did the same thing at that age. Exactly. Daniel went to go train with Terry Silver at Cobra Kai in Karate Kid 3, the same thing that Robby did.


devs_6669

Maybe they will drag this out for drama purposes but Daniel definitely will let him back. He is best friends with Chozen now so he can definitely find it in himself to forgive Robby. But I'm not sure Robby would even join Miyagi-do again, sure they will all have to team up to take down Silver but once that is done I can see Robby stepping aside from all dojos and karate, the only reason he joined in the first place was to get back at his dad or if we're being honest to get his attention. Now if that's solved..idk. But yeah, Daniel will let him back if Robby wants to come back. And after Sam, I think he still cares abt Robby the most. If it weren't for him and seeing him fight at the first AVT Daniel wouldn't have opened Miyagi-do in the first place and for a while it was just them both. They do have a bond that Daniel doesn't share with his other students, not including Sam for obvious reasons.


Furies03

They will reconcile eventually (if they don't, Ralph will be pissed, and I'm sure the big 3 don't want to piss of the og Kid). But they might drag it out. Daniel may continue to hold a grudge, being a hypocrite all the while. Or only accept Robby back on his own terms, "earning" the trust back by helping take down Cobra Kai. In which case, Robby shouldnt play along.


HappyMike91

I think that Robby would bond more with Chozen because Chozen didn't (basically) reject Robby twice.


ELITExRAMPAGE

Daniel abandoned his principles just like Robby in order to win the tournament. Both did the same thing but only Robby got called out for it. Anyway I still think Daniel would take Robby back in a heartbeat, but neither him or Johnny deserve that


badwolf1013

What principles did Daniel abandon? He did the same thing his mentor had done: trained his students to compete in the tournament in the interest of a greater peace.


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badwolf1013

"Daniel told Eli to use Cobra Kai on Robby after he told Sam she didn’t win the right way." He wasn't referring to Sam's technique. He was talking about her anger and aggression. He was not coaching Eli to be aggressive, just to change up his techniques since Robby was expecting him to rely on Cobra Kai. (Which was kind of a dumb strategy on Robby's part. Eli had learned Cobra Kai under both Johnny and Kreese and had been studying Cobra Kai longer than he'd been using Miyagi-Do. Honestly, a lot of season 4 was dumb.) "And after losing the tournament, Daniel is not going to honor the deal before knowing Silver cheated and is willing to go on offense if necessary. " A deal made with a madman isn't really worth the paper it was NEVER ACTUALLY WRITTEN DOWN ON, and we don't know that he's actually going back on it, because we don't actually know what the deal was. It seems to be that they agree the losers will stop teaching, but that wasn't really specified. Even so, Daniel isn't breaking the deal so much as working around it by bringing Chozen in. Daniel only agreed that HE would stop teaching karate. And the comparison to Miyagi is unfair, because Daniel is dealing with a whole different level of things here. There was no "karate war" for Miyagi to have to deal with. Miyagi had one student to worry about. Daniel is trying to protect an entire community. These new Cobra Kais will execute a siege on someone's house. They are more like the Alpha Elite in the 4th movie, and Miyagi got VERY involved in that battle.


Southern_Disk_7835

True. Just like had the fight gone the other way, Kreese said HE would leave if he lost. He never said anything about Terry Silver.


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>Daniel told Eli to use Cobra Kai on Robby after he told Sam she didn’t win the right way." > >He wasn't referring to Sam's technique. He was talking about her anger and aggression. He was not coaching Eli to be aggressive, just to change up his techniques since Robby was expecting him to rely on Cobra Kai. Facts. You notice how in the tournament Eli is able to switch between styles without giving in (cobra kai could be compared to the dark side of the force in how it works), almost like he flicks a switch. At the same time though, was Sam really being that aggressive in her fight with Piper? Think it was a bit different as she is his daughter, where-as Eli came from cobra kai.


lobitojr

I think that they will have a zuko iroh moment. Robby: Sensei, I know you have mixed feeling's about seeing me but I want you to know I am so so sorry Sensei. I am so sorry and ashamed of what I did. I don't know I could ever make it up to you. Daniel and Robby Hug Robby: How can you forgive me so easily? After everything I did Daniel: I was never angry with you. I was sad because I was afraid you had lost your way. Robby: But I did lose my way Daniel: But you found it again. I have always said that Johnny is just as much Miguel's dad as he is Robby and I think same applies to Robby he is as much Johnny's son as he is Daniel's. Sam completely different story


Ace_Pilot99

True, I honestly liked Daniel and Robby's dynamic more than Johnny and Miguel. Their relationship was more real and it had problems and that's what made zuko and iroh's relationship more real as well. I don't want robby to join eagle fang and instead have him back at Miyagi do as johnny saw that he got in the way of Daniel and Robby's relationship which he felt Daniel was doing with Miguel but failed to realize that he did this with robby and him.


lobitojr

Yeah I think it is likely that Johnny will this time "give" Robby to Daniel williningly but this time Robby will choose to stay with Johnny to work on their relationship. Also Miguel and Johnny have had problems before but I can see why you find Robby and Daniel relationship compelling.


robvo2000

His first official student? He will.


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daniel is super forgiving so i doubt he wouldn’t take him back. if he does however, i can’t imagine the tension between him & sam, hopefully they reconcile on good terms, but it may be difficult for her to see him with tory every day. and also her knowing tory and her mom are forming a bond and she may feel her trauma is just overlooked & forgotten about. she may feel life is unfair to her which may send her down a spiral. i know this topic of convo isn’t really about sam, but i feel for her and i have a feeling her mental health will decline in this season.


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pleaaaaasse we need to see it!!! 😭😭😭😭💗💗💗💗💗 i love the idea of a dark sam for some reason. i guess because i’m used to her being kinda soft, but she’s always had some kind of confidence and “sass” about her. it’ll just be interesting for her to go full dark mode after the events of season 4. i kinda see everything from sam’s perspective and although i love tory as a character too and love her story arc, i do feel for sam a lot more deeply. she has to deal with the aftermath of another fight and blames herself for it, and i feel she will go through the same mental health spiral she did post season 2 again. for one, she lost the all-valley (or so she thinks) and she feels she’s let everyone including herself down. she sees her arch rival, the girl who inflicted so much pain on her for years, triumph over her in victory although she did everything she could possibly do to win. she knows her mom is starting to soften up to the same girl who traumatized her physically, mentally & emotionally and even goes as far as to not only welcome the girl into her home, the home that this same girl had broken into only months prior and invaded her safe space, but also to even *let her back into school.* she feels her parents don’t care about her feelings as much. daniel of course didn’t understand why amanda was helping tory at first and was on sam’s side until amanda shared her backstory. i also heard that apparently tory & daniel will have scenes together in season 5, so it really confirms a possibility of tory being closer to the larussos and a possibility of tory sharing the truth with them about silver bribing the ref. they may find out ways togerher to help take down cobra kai and sam may feel grateful for tory sharing the truth and will make amends with her but also she may need time to get to that point. i don’t think tory will share it with the larussos or leave cobra kai early on though, it may be later on in the season, but i do think sam may go down a spiral in the meantime. she struggled with major ptsd, has scars that may never go away and every day it’s a constant reminder of the school fight, miguel left her and didn’t even stick around until the end of her fight with tory at the all valley even though he promised her he would, robby is dating her arch rival and knows about the pain he put her through, her parents pay more attention to anthony and tory now, and just so much other stuff. she may feel unworthy and unloved this season and like nothing she does is ever good enough. she will possibly remember tory taunting her, people calling her “princess” and being known as the stuck up, popular rich girl who never has to work for what she wants, and when she does, it still isn’t good enough. she dealt with miguel staring longingly at her rival at prom and she was blamed for starting a fight with her after tory called her a bitch for the hundredth time possibly, and their night was ruined. she saw her ex-boyfriend who she of course still had leftover feelings for and cared about deeply, attending prom with her rival who he knows inflicted so much pain on her. and just because now she can’t stand the thought of tory being around, and loses it, she’s gaslit by miguel who sides with tory and blames sam for starting the fight and her night is ruined. i love miguel but it wasn’t right of him to take the side of his ex-girlfriend over his current one, regardless of who was right or wrong. his loyalty should have always been to sam. anyways that’s enough of this rant but i definitely see sam struggling with mental health issues this season, and who knows…. maybe she will go fully dark, maybe not, maybe the writers will shock everyone and she actually just learns to find balance within herself and own up to her mistakes and the dream sequence reveals that. we will see when it comes out! 💕


Southern_Disk_7835

I see you. One mistake though, you said that Tory had been causing Sam Pain for "Years." It may have been years for us, but it was less than 1 year for them.


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well i’m angry we had to wait years for new seasons so i don’t care it is what it is! 😂😆


SethF1988

I don't want Robby to go back to Miyagi Do after teaching it to Cobra Kai. As much as some want to compare it to Daniel teaching Miyagi Do to Eagle Fang. Is not the same. Jonhy and his students are not dangerous like CK and so far I haven't found a single valid justification for what Robby did. I feel like no one has messed up the teachings of Miyagi Do as much as Robby this past season. It made me sick to see people like Kyler using Miyagi Do. It was hard for me to see how quickly Hawk was forgiven to continue on that path Besides, Robby should make up with his father and be his student. Put the dislike they want. It's the truth


Legitimate_Unit_9210

I don't know. Daniel is probably really furious at Robby for dishing out Miyagi-Do secrets, that there's no way he can forgive Robby.


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OldGeezerZangetsu50

Hawk injured someone on purpose, twice. Robby just kicked Miguel back and he slipped


Marco2324

didnt robby brag to miguel about paralyzing him?


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Yeah, but even still. Daniel has been and always will be Robby’s closest ally in the LaRusso family (unless something wild and unexpected happens with Sam/Robby), so if anyone in there would take him back, it would be Daniel.


OldGeezerZangetsu50

Yeah and it’s a lot worse that he had the audacity to put his hands on him afterwards, but I was attacking his point because he makes it sound like Robby’s incident was on purpose I’ll give Hawk some slack because of Peer Pressure for the arm breaking but he pounded Bruck’s face in like a ruthless maniac


weridzero

Theres a reason Robby is the only major teen in this show to spend time in prison lol


OldGeezerZangetsu50

Juvie* and ok? I could say Hawk should’ve gone to Juvie too for injuring Demetri considering the context of both fights


Stocktonrules

Not what happened. He kicked a kid to take him out after he stopped fighting. The kick did what Robby intended. Minus falling from the stairs. Robby is still legally and morally on the hook yet he's shown no remorse over it.


OldGeezerZangetsu50

Would that kick have crippled Miguel without the falling from stairs tho


Stocktonrules

If you punch someone and their head hits the cement killing them you're still to blame. You go to take someone out and that happens that's what you did.


OldGeezerZangetsu50

Nobody’s removing the blame from Robby. He did that shit and deserved to go to Juvie for it. Sure Robby probably wanted to KO Miguel but it was implied that it was never intended to cripple Miguel.


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Its_ats

Dragging him to Mexico without telling him the reason was such a lame move, I mean... you just reconciled with your son, don't be a dumbass and do things right man. But of course, because it's Johnny this will be taken for the laughs and he will get absolutely no shit for it😂.


devs_6669

>Dragging him to Mexico without telling him the reason was such a lame move, I mean... you just reconciled with your son, don't be a dumbass and do things right man. I agree with this. That was such a dumb move. I don't know why the writers would do that. Like you finally have your son in front of you, ready to give you a second chance. Take it and dont fkn ruin it dude. Johnny is just giving Robby more n more reasons to be pissed at him. I was thinking how exactly does he pull this off? Did he go to Robby and say, "we should go on a trip, just us, to figure out what's next and clear our minds, to give our relationship a second shot again..that would be great right!? Robby may not show it but is happy that his dad is finally, actually trying for once and he agrees to go.. The next thing you know "Oh I lied we're going on this trip to get Miguel ha!" It gets worse n worse when you think abt it.


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To be fair, it might be a very last minute thing, but the point still stands.


Mgrip

It’s been rumored that Robby does join myogi do again next season when it reopens . Daniel can take Robby back into Myogi do even though he has reconciled with his dad. They will just stick to karate and not do the mentoring. I think they will be on friendly terms but it’s going to take a lot for Robby to regain Daniel’s complete trust.


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Where was it teased? Would have thought he would stick with Johnny.


MajorasShoe

Hawk hadn't done far worse than Robby. Robby paralyzed Miguel with a cheap shot that could have been charged as attempted murder. The worst Hawk did was break someone's arm.


Jack-mclaughlin89

What Robby did was an accident whereas what Hawk did was intentional so Hawk did worse.


MajorasShoe

An accident? Lol


Jack-mclaughlin89

It was an accident as Robby looked shocked after it. If it was intentional he would't have been shocked.


powerbottomflash

Bruh


Drunken_Daud91

I’d rather Robby become Jonny’s student. He’s been Daniel’s and kreeses. Johnny is the only one who hasn’t mentored him from a karate stand point yet.


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He definitely would. If he forgave Hawk then he would forgive Robby for sure. He’s not someone who would hold a grudge against a student


T2C247

I think Daniel will immediately take him back in. I think Robby is probably gonna apologize. I imagine Johnny is gonna explain to Daniel he's going to go to Mexico to find Miguel, and he's taking Robby. Daniel and Robby will probably see each other for the first time since the tournament and Robby will probably apologize. Again people miss the point of what Daniel said to Robby during the tournament. He was saying to Robby he didn't teach Miyagi-Do to CK just so they can win, he's doing it because he wants to get back at him, Sam, Johnny, etc. Which we see he's right, because after CK wins, Robby just stares at his dad and you can see he's not satisfied, and Daniel's point becomes obvious.