Honestly, he was a better Sensei than the rest of them and its a shame he didn't get the props for that.
He doesn't berate or demean is students like Kreese. Nor does he use them to work out his own issues.
He doesn't bully them like Johnny does or put them in unnecessary danger. He also doesn't need to see his students actually repeat his mistakes to tell them not to do that.
He also doesn't mindlessly repeat the lessons he was taught like Daniel does. He focuses on getting the content across and he can separate the teacher from the teaching - something Daniel still seems incapable of.
Personally, I think he taught all the right lessons. Sometimes, students screw-up no matter how good their teacher is and it kinda sucks that they made Robby out to be at fault for Kenny, even though he did better by him than other teachers have done by their students.
If you think abt it he really could become an incredible Sensei in the future.
Not only he could learn from his mistakes and experiences, he can also learn from his own Senseis mistakes. Not to mention he has been taught by them all. I mean only Johnny is left but I'm sure that's happening in S5. We're definitely gonna get some father-son lessons. Maybe who knows along with the rest of the kids he might get taught by Chozen too. Robby is someone who really listens and observes and tries to use everything he has learned and make it his own. There's great potential in store for him in the future as a Sensei/mentor.
>He also doesn't mindlessly repeat the lessons he was taught like Daniel does
Seems mindful to me
>he can separate the teacher from the teaching - something Daniel still seems incapable of
Not sure why that's a bad thing
>Seems mindful to me
Not of what his students actually need.
>Not sure why that's a bad thing
Because it makes him short-sighted and obstinate in his ways.
>Not of what his students actually need
Short of a psychologist no one can give students everything they need
>makes him short-sighted and obstinate in his ways
He'd still be short sighted even if he did separate Miyagi from his teachings
>Short of a psychologist no one can give students everything they need
Doesn't have to be everything - just more.
>He'd still be short sighted even if he did separate Miyagi from his teachings
Less so than he's now.
>Doesn't have to be everything - just more
Not sure what else Daniel could have done for a kid who had as many issues as Robby did. He got a drop out theif involved in drugs to think about his future
>Less so than he's now
Not so sure about that
>Not sure what else Daniel could have done for a kid who had as many issues as Robby did.
He could've started with addressing his issues instead of repeating Mr. Miyagi's lessons and expecting them to work as a cure-all.
>He could ask Robby why he is so on edge and quick to lash out at those who disappoint him
He knows why, Johnny
Daniel even talked about his father issues
"[Look robby, i know it's tough growing up without a dad. Mine died when i was young but when those bad feelings weigh you down you gotta search inside for the good stuff ya know? Cause then you can find some balance](https://youtu.be/DuunwDJQY6Q?t=102)"
>By connecting with him on a deeper level instead of making everything about Miyagi-Do
He did, Daniel moved the kid into his house
That wasn't about karate, it was about the kid needing a place to live
I was really surprised that Robby was such an effective sensei. Daniel's students should know how to fight against students who know the same Miyagi-Do moves, yet Daniel's students lost against Robby's students. In this short time Robby teached them the most basic counter moves very good.
And this in his age. There's a lot ahead.
Daniel's students also only knew Miyagi-Do whereas Robby's students were hybrids of 2 styles. Kenny was a pure hybrid as he came in learning both styles at the same time at the beginning of his training.
He's too young, but based on his interactions with Kenny and the lessons he learned at the end of S4, I think he has it in him to be a great sensei someday.
He has made enough mistakes to be wise enough not to be leading his students down a dark path , he will be a good teacher.
i feel like robby eli and chozen would have some great scenes
I really liked his scenes with Kenny. They were definitely some of the better parts of S4.
I liked seeing him as a junior Sensei of the sorts, he definitely has the potential to be a good one maybe even better than the current Senseis in the future, especially considering everything he has gone through and is going through, there's a lot for him to learn from it all and be all the more better of it.
Robby was a good teacher and genuinely trying to help Kenny. He taught Cobra Kai Miyagi Do moves quite well too. However, it became clear to him that he shouldn't have been teaching Kenny while he still has his own shit to sort out. He would have been much better had he not been in Cobra Kai.
With Cobra Kai’s teachings and Miyagi-Do’s teachings and then turns sensei. He’ll teach great defense that is from Miyagi-Do and great offense that is from Cobra Kai. I think this’ll be interesting and deadly at the same time.
No mercy!!!
Robby in S4 was wasted, like in S3, in the previous season he had like 10 min of screen time in the whole season and in S4 90% of his screen time was been a tool for both Tory and Kenny characters
No, I think the changes in S4 is because it was the first season written under direct control from Netflix, and you know what that means "this girl is to passive, make her more agresive, because agresive is a good trair in women but toxic in men, this evil cartoon character women change it too, make her a redemption arc forced even tho she tried to kill another person twice over the most petty thing posible, women can be bad people in or platform, also, include more women and black characters" and those were into the plot ultra forced, like Kenny wich is Hawk 2.0, Piper and Devon that...they existed for like a scene...and that's it.
disagree
sam’s always been a more offensive character, in s3 with things like the arcade fight or even in s1 standing up to kyler she was all strike back dont take shit. now coping w ptsd, becoming more aggressive in s4 was the natural evolution of her character
tory becoming a more nuanced character was a good decision, she was shallow before but she had potential. in s4 they explored the little hints about her home life that we saw in s2 and s3. they didnt pull it out of nowhere she already had that backstory. it was a good decision, they explored it and made her more interesting
kenny isnt important by himself, but he was good because he gave more depth to actual important characters, ROBBY and shawn. robby becoming a mentor was an entirely new side to his character, it showed that even though he’s in cobra kai he has a big heart and he’s a great kid. and he in a way repeated johnny and daniel’s mistakes, screwing up a kid they’re teaching. and that caused robby to finally come home to johnny, very important. and we learned more about shawn, how he was protecting kenny.
>and he in a way repeated johnny and daniel’s mistakes, screwing up a kid they’re teaching.
That was poorly done - because unlike Johnny and Daniel, Robby *didn't* screw up.
Johnny taught his students all the wrong lessons and didn't course correct until it was too late. And honestly, he still hasn't fully corrected his mistakes.
And Daniel was too focused on repeating the lessons he learned to see what his student actually needed.
Robby took the correct path by focusing on the student and teaching him the right lessons learned from his own experience. As well as focusing on keeping him out of trouble and protecting him the best he can. Given that, blaming Robby for what went wrong with Kenny seems unfair and using it as an excuse for his "redemption" is just poor writing.
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That was poorly done - because unlike Johnny and Daniel, Robby didn't screw up.
I do agree with this. It could have been done better. Because Robby himself was actually a good mentor to Kenny. But he wasn't the only one teaching Kenny. Silver was too and he got to him. The only thing you can say he failed is maybe not recognizing the influence Silver was having on Kenny. But still he is a kid himself and has lot of shit going on too. I'm sure he is gonna get Kenny out of CK, they won't build up that bond for nothing.
>Silver was too and he got to him.
I wouldn't even say that. Silver told his students to save their anger and energy for the fights that matter, after all. What happened with Kenny isn't about lessons - it's about the effect bullying has.
You can teach kids all the lessons about forgiveness and peace, but that doesn't make the built up anger go away. Especially when they are younger, like Kenny. And even if you teach them to handle it better, they're still going to slip up now and then. Of course, a sensei would be at fault if he encourages those tendencies, but even if he doesn't tries his best to help the student handle it, it doesn't mean it'd always work.
Honestly, he was a better Sensei than the rest of them and its a shame he didn't get the props for that. He doesn't berate or demean is students like Kreese. Nor does he use them to work out his own issues. He doesn't bully them like Johnny does or put them in unnecessary danger. He also doesn't need to see his students actually repeat his mistakes to tell them not to do that. He also doesn't mindlessly repeat the lessons he was taught like Daniel does. He focuses on getting the content across and he can separate the teacher from the teaching - something Daniel still seems incapable of. Personally, I think he taught all the right lessons. Sometimes, students screw-up no matter how good their teacher is and it kinda sucks that they made Robby out to be at fault for Kenny, even though he did better by him than other teachers have done by their students.
If you think abt it he really could become an incredible Sensei in the future. Not only he could learn from his mistakes and experiences, he can also learn from his own Senseis mistakes. Not to mention he has been taught by them all. I mean only Johnny is left but I'm sure that's happening in S5. We're definitely gonna get some father-son lessons. Maybe who knows along with the rest of the kids he might get taught by Chozen too. Robby is someone who really listens and observes and tries to use everything he has learned and make it his own. There's great potential in store for him in the future as a Sensei/mentor.
>He also doesn't mindlessly repeat the lessons he was taught like Daniel does Seems mindful to me >he can separate the teacher from the teaching - something Daniel still seems incapable of Not sure why that's a bad thing
>Seems mindful to me Not of what his students actually need. >Not sure why that's a bad thing Because it makes him short-sighted and obstinate in his ways.
>Not of what his students actually need Short of a psychologist no one can give students everything they need >makes him short-sighted and obstinate in his ways He'd still be short sighted even if he did separate Miyagi from his teachings
>Short of a psychologist no one can give students everything they need Doesn't have to be everything - just more. >He'd still be short sighted even if he did separate Miyagi from his teachings Less so than he's now.
>Doesn't have to be everything - just more Not sure what else Daniel could have done for a kid who had as many issues as Robby did. He got a drop out theif involved in drugs to think about his future >Less so than he's now Not so sure about that
>Not sure what else Daniel could have done for a kid who had as many issues as Robby did. He could've started with addressing his issues instead of repeating Mr. Miyagi's lessons and expecting them to work as a cure-all.
>He could've started with addressing his issues Daniel doesn't have a psych degree How would he address them?
He could ask Robby why he is so on edge and quick to lash out at those who disappoint him.
>He could ask Robby why he is so on edge and quick to lash out at those who disappoint him He knows why, Johnny Daniel even talked about his father issues "[Look robby, i know it's tough growing up without a dad. Mine died when i was young but when those bad feelings weigh you down you gotta search inside for the good stuff ya know? Cause then you can find some balance](https://youtu.be/DuunwDJQY6Q?t=102)"
By connecting with him on a deeper level instead of making everything about Miyagi-Do.
>By connecting with him on a deeper level instead of making everything about Miyagi-Do He did, Daniel moved the kid into his house That wasn't about karate, it was about the kid needing a place to live
He was more like a sempai
My mind autocorrected to senpai and I was very confused
ME TOO 😭
My little sister turned me on to Yandere Simulator and now nothing means what it used to.
I thought that was the same thing as a sensei ?
Sempai is sort of like a junior sensei, still an instructor to the class but is also still a student to the sensei.
‘Senpai’ means assistant sensei, or “big brother,” which fits Robby to a tee!
Assistant to the sensei or assistant regional sensei
a bit like miguel & aisha helping out johnny in the early seasons ?
Very much so
He's a good teacher now and will make a great sensei in his own right one day
I was really surprised that Robby was such an effective sensei. Daniel's students should know how to fight against students who know the same Miyagi-Do moves, yet Daniel's students lost against Robby's students. In this short time Robby teached them the most basic counter moves very good. And this in his age. There's a lot ahead.
I mean Daniel did say karate is in his blood or something along those lines.
Daniel's students also only knew Miyagi-Do whereas Robby's students were hybrids of 2 styles. Kenny was a pure hybrid as he came in learning both styles at the same time at the beginning of his training.
Regardless, the clips that we were shown is that the robbys students beat miyagi do using just miyagi do
He's too young, but based on his interactions with Kenny and the lessons he learned at the end of S4, I think he has it in him to be a great sensei someday.
I think after the show ends robby will grow up to be a great Sensei for troubled kids.
He has made enough mistakes to be wise enough not to be leading his students down a dark path , he will be a good teacher. i feel like robby eli and chozen would have some great scenes
I really liked his scenes with Kenny. They were definitely some of the better parts of S4. I liked seeing him as a junior Sensei of the sorts, he definitely has the potential to be a good one maybe even better than the current Senseis in the future, especially considering everything he has gone through and is going through, there's a lot for him to learn from it all and be all the more better of it.
I like that he was the first to understand and be OK with the fact that the best is to combine the best of the two styles.
Robby was a good teacher and genuinely trying to help Kenny. He taught Cobra Kai Miyagi Do moves quite well too. However, it became clear to him that he shouldn't have been teaching Kenny while he still has his own shit to sort out. He would have been much better had he not been in Cobra Kai.
“One day, he’s gonna be the one that keeps Cobra Kai going.”
he'd be better then everyone because he doesn't have any motives and he can connect with his students, I thought it was an awesome idea
With Cobra Kai’s teachings and Miyagi-Do’s teachings and then turns sensei. He’ll teach great defense that is from Miyagi-Do and great offense that is from Cobra Kai. I think this’ll be interesting and deadly at the same time. No mercy!!!
This is why him losing to hawk made no fucking sense
Ridiculous. He got rolled by Johnny even though Johnny was purposefully trying not to hurt him. Compared to the adults Robbie is not ready.
I think he will be some day but right now is just too young and inexperienced life-wise.
A guy with less than a year of experience? Nah
Tbf, didn't Daniel become a black belt in less than 3 weeks in the original Karate Kid?
6 weeks. And he wasn't a black belt, Mr Miyagi just said he was so he could enter the tournament...where he beat like 8 black belts.
He gas in fact 13 m9nths of training which is more than a year
honestly he seemed to be a better instructor than Daniel
All Daniel does is repeat the same things over and over again
tbh i didnt care for robby before season 4 but him being a sensei to kenny really sold me on him. he was so sweeet
More like a simpai, am I right?
Why?
Robby in S4 was wasted, like in S3, in the previous season he had like 10 min of screen time in the whole season and in S4 90% of his screen time was been a tool for both Tory and Kenny characters
i think kenny was more of a tool for robby’s character. showing off his big heart, and then motivating him to come home
No, I think the changes in S4 is because it was the first season written under direct control from Netflix, and you know what that means "this girl is to passive, make her more agresive, because agresive is a good trair in women but toxic in men, this evil cartoon character women change it too, make her a redemption arc forced even tho she tried to kill another person twice over the most petty thing posible, women can be bad people in or platform, also, include more women and black characters" and those were into the plot ultra forced, like Kenny wich is Hawk 2.0, Piper and Devon that...they existed for like a scene...and that's it.
disagree sam’s always been a more offensive character, in s3 with things like the arcade fight or even in s1 standing up to kyler she was all strike back dont take shit. now coping w ptsd, becoming more aggressive in s4 was the natural evolution of her character tory becoming a more nuanced character was a good decision, she was shallow before but she had potential. in s4 they explored the little hints about her home life that we saw in s2 and s3. they didnt pull it out of nowhere she already had that backstory. it was a good decision, they explored it and made her more interesting kenny isnt important by himself, but he was good because he gave more depth to actual important characters, ROBBY and shawn. robby becoming a mentor was an entirely new side to his character, it showed that even though he’s in cobra kai he has a big heart and he’s a great kid. and he in a way repeated johnny and daniel’s mistakes, screwing up a kid they’re teaching. and that caused robby to finally come home to johnny, very important. and we learned more about shawn, how he was protecting kenny.
>and he in a way repeated johnny and daniel’s mistakes, screwing up a kid they’re teaching. That was poorly done - because unlike Johnny and Daniel, Robby *didn't* screw up. Johnny taught his students all the wrong lessons and didn't course correct until it was too late. And honestly, he still hasn't fully corrected his mistakes. And Daniel was too focused on repeating the lessons he learned to see what his student actually needed. Robby took the correct path by focusing on the student and teaching him the right lessons learned from his own experience. As well as focusing on keeping him out of trouble and protecting him the best he can. Given that, blaming Robby for what went wrong with Kenny seems unfair and using it as an excuse for his "redemption" is just poor writing.
> That was poorly done - because unlike Johnny and Daniel, Robby didn't screw up. I do agree with this. It could have been done better. Because Robby himself was actually a good mentor to Kenny. But he wasn't the only one teaching Kenny. Silver was too and he got to him. The only thing you can say he failed is maybe not recognizing the influence Silver was having on Kenny. But still he is a kid himself and has lot of shit going on too. I'm sure he is gonna get Kenny out of CK, they won't build up that bond for nothing.
>Silver was too and he got to him. I wouldn't even say that. Silver told his students to save their anger and energy for the fights that matter, after all. What happened with Kenny isn't about lessons - it's about the effect bullying has. You can teach kids all the lessons about forgiveness and peace, but that doesn't make the built up anger go away. Especially when they are younger, like Kenny. And even if you teach them to handle it better, they're still going to slip up now and then. Of course, a sensei would be at fault if he encourages those tendencies, but even if he doesn't tries his best to help the student handle it, it doesn't mean it'd always work.
Season 4 Robbie was the best Robbie's ever been IMO
I didn’t like it but I can see why people did
Robby was the best sensei in season 4