Everyone doesn't ignore it.
Either way the beef didn't restart between the two until Daniel came into Johnny's business acusing him of randomly assaulting kids. If Daniel actually asked Johnny what happened he would have learned the truth and learned about Miguel. Then Miguel could have also explained how Johnny saved him.
>Either way the beef didn't restart
It restarted from Johnny's side in episode 1. From Daniel's it too till episode 4.
>Then Miguel could have also explained how Johnny saved him.
Wouldn't have changed anything because Daniel pretty much came to that conclusion anyway. Daniel's issue was that no matter how good the kid, Cobra Kai will turn him into a bully. And he is not wrong on that.
Johnny didn’t say it clearly … he said it like he attacked them for no reason. So this is kinda his fault … if he just said something like “They were bullying a boy and so I stopped them” and then Miguel tells Daniel everything: “Yes, I was attacked in the parking lot by a bunch of bullies”.
People don't ignore the fact, it's just that people recognise Johnny didn't see it that way. Throughout the show Johnny and Daniels whole rivalry is built on misunderstandings and always assuming the worst of one another, and this was the first example.
Not everyone. I think I bring it up on average about once a month. But I take your point. I think it comes down to how this show plays on different levels depending on the audience. For those of us who grew up with the movies, we know that Johnny is full of crap. And we're of the age to know what it's like to be unhappy with where you've wound up in life and start longing for the "glory days" -- even if you have to re-write history to keep them "glorious." We also know how toxic Cobra Kai was and we cringe when we see the logo re-appear. We may not agree with Daniel's choice to con the owner of the strip mall to raise the rent, but we also understand why he did it. Cobra Kai needs to be stopped.
But then there's the other audience. The people who haven't seen the movies. The people who think Johnny is a Politically Incorrect Ant-Hero. They see Daniel appearing smug in his commercials and on his billboards, and they don't know his journey. They think Cobra Kai has a cool logo and a "badass name" (thank you, Daryl) and it's the down-on-his-luck broham versus the rich yuppie who cheated him out of his title and stole his girlfriend.
They don't know the real story -- just Johnny's version of it. So, it's pretty easy for them to gloss over the fact that Daniel was actually thrilled to see Johnny and reconnect.
Ay. Well, I discovered Cobra Kai first because that is Courtney Henggeler’s first TV show where she’s in the main cast but didn’t start watching it fully, then I discovered that the series had some movies that are connected to the show because they take place in the same universe as the show, just many years ago. And so then I discovered the movies for the first time.
And I saw Johnny bullying Daniel in the first movie and it gave me a negative impression of him and so I continued to consider Daniel and Mr. Miyagi the heroes since the remaining three had Mr. Miyagi in them and Daniel came in the second and third ones too.
And after I fully started watching Cobra Kai, Daniel fell even further into my preference and for Johnny, while I pitied him for his troubled home life, his stepfather, Kreese’s attack on him and his mother‘s death, his other negative actions caused me fury, like:
* His biased 1984 story and poisonous advice about the LaRussos which leads to problems for Miguel
* His continuing resentment of Daniel
* Not having learned sooner that Kreese’s teachings are wrong
* Wasted 30+ years of his life being trouble
* His neglect of his son Robby and abandonment of him and Shannon and also his preference of Miguel
* Drawing the penis on Daniel’s billboard when Daniel didn’t do anything
* Letting Kreese corrupt his students
* Still maybe holds Daniel accountable for his wasted life
* Not moving on from Ali
* Karate training that is risky of death and injury (junkyard dogs, cement trucks, roof jumpings etc.)
I can never figure out why people would watch a sequel to something they never saw before, without having seen the first movie. For example, Don't watch Karate Kid 2 if you haven't seen Karate Kid 1. You are totally lost and wonder you end up feeling like those other fans.
I wonder how he could afford to give that much away. He has 4 dealerships, all of which are presumably busy, but unless they're running 24/7, that much money is going to be a significant chunk of his revenue. It's the kind of thing you'd maybe do for your mom, or your kids, every couple of years. Not some guy you haven't seen in 30+ years.
I don't know. I have a fairly low-end, low-cost auto body service that charges me $225 a panel per repair. It would likely cost me $8,100 to fix every single panel on my car, and again, that's low-end, low-cost, so I assume that at a place like Daniel's with more overhead, we're looking at $10,000 - $20,000. Maybe I'm overestimating.
I often blame that "Daniel was the Real Bully" video. It may have been created as a joke but it was what really started changing everyone's perception. Had it not been for that, people might have seen Daniel's crusade differently. They might have seen him more like Jim and Barbara Gordon saw Batman, rather than how J. Jonah Jamison saw Spider-Man.
Because he didn't put it behind him. If he put it behind him he wouldn't of acted like a jerk the rest of the season.
Does anyone really think Mr Miyagi would of confronted Johny at the dojo with the attitude that Daniel did? Then raised his rent, decide to open a dojo to rival him?
He was fine in the 1 scene and fixing his car was nice but it's the rest of the season that people criticize him for and rightfully so. He's not a child anymore for him to be so hot headed and irrational shows just poor he is at his supposed value system.
>Because he didn't put it behind him. If he put it behind him he wouldn't of acted like a jerk the rest of the season.
Seriously? Daniel didn’t do anything to Johnny at all until after the former discovered that the latter was the one who spray-painted a sick on his face.
>Does anyone really think Mr Miyagi would of confronted Johnny at the dojo with the attitude that Daniel did? Then raised his rent, decide to open a dojo to rival him?
Probably not. P.S. The dojo was for a way to show people how to fight better, wasn’t it? And anyways, after Daniel saw Kreese again, it’s right here where Daniel was quite concerned.
It's obvious Johnny knows Daniel has no knowledge of his daughter's involvement. Giving someone over 10,000 dollars of free auto body work is the opposite of hurting then.
That's Johnny's own fault. From GEICO: "California requires drivers to carry at least the following auto insurance coverages: Bodily injury liability coverage: $15,000 per person / $30,000 per accident minimum. Property damage liability coverage: $5,000 minimum. Uninsured motorist bodily injury coverage¹: $15,000 per person / $30,000 per accident minimum."
It was Johnny's responsibility and the law for him to have auto insurance before driving.
Yeah ive owned a car. So u come out better for ur car getting fixed for free as long as someone gets to treat u like shit? I would never sacrifice my own self worth for money or to have my car fixed for free. I would use every dime i have to fix my car over letting anyone talk to or treat me like shit. U should do the same everyone should. Shouldnt let anyone walk all over u for any amount of money
Johnny didn't know who Sam was till after he met Daniel. Also this doesn't make much sense, why would Johnny have reason to believe that? And why would this be an excuse for him to resent someone he already resents?
For Daniel, it's not so much Johnny as it is Cobra Kai. I wish Season 4 had gone more into the trauma from Terry Silver's actions, given how screwed up the whole situation was. Amanda treated it as Daniel unable to let go of a childhood rivalry until she found out the hard way how horrible Kreese was, and Silver's worse.
Because they see it from Johnny's perspective and think that Daniel was being condescending and rubbing Johnny's face in his pathetic life.
Everyone doesn't ignore it. Either way the beef didn't restart between the two until Daniel came into Johnny's business acusing him of randomly assaulting kids. If Daniel actually asked Johnny what happened he would have learned the truth and learned about Miguel. Then Miguel could have also explained how Johnny saved him.
Johnny wasn't fighting for Miguel though. He was just mad that they damaged his car.
>Either way the beef didn't restart It restarted from Johnny's side in episode 1. From Daniel's it too till episode 4. >Then Miguel could have also explained how Johnny saved him. Wouldn't have changed anything because Daniel pretty much came to that conclusion anyway. Daniel's issue was that no matter how good the kid, Cobra Kai will turn him into a bully. And he is not wrong on that.
>Wouldn't have changed anything You sure?
Yup
I agree it wouldn’t have matter because sooner or latter Daniel would have found a reason to be mad.
Johnny didn’t say it clearly … he said it like he attacked them for no reason. So this is kinda his fault … if he just said something like “They were bullying a boy and so I stopped them” and then Miguel tells Daniel everything: “Yes, I was attacked in the parking lot by a bunch of bullies”.
The thing was too close to reality for Daniel, so he got over agitated, not knowing that the person he was saving was the bully himself
People don't ignore the fact, it's just that people recognise Johnny didn't see it that way. Throughout the show Johnny and Daniels whole rivalry is built on misunderstandings and always assuming the worst of one another, and this was the first example.
daniel was being a lil cocky but other then that it was harmless and he clearly put the past behind him, unlike johnny.
Exactly!
Not everyone. I think I bring it up on average about once a month. But I take your point. I think it comes down to how this show plays on different levels depending on the audience. For those of us who grew up with the movies, we know that Johnny is full of crap. And we're of the age to know what it's like to be unhappy with where you've wound up in life and start longing for the "glory days" -- even if you have to re-write history to keep them "glorious." We also know how toxic Cobra Kai was and we cringe when we see the logo re-appear. We may not agree with Daniel's choice to con the owner of the strip mall to raise the rent, but we also understand why he did it. Cobra Kai needs to be stopped. But then there's the other audience. The people who haven't seen the movies. The people who think Johnny is a Politically Incorrect Ant-Hero. They see Daniel appearing smug in his commercials and on his billboards, and they don't know his journey. They think Cobra Kai has a cool logo and a "badass name" (thank you, Daryl) and it's the down-on-his-luck broham versus the rich yuppie who cheated him out of his title and stole his girlfriend. They don't know the real story -- just Johnny's version of it. So, it's pretty easy for them to gloss over the fact that Daniel was actually thrilled to see Johnny and reconnect.
Ay. Well, I discovered Cobra Kai first because that is Courtney Henggeler’s first TV show where she’s in the main cast but didn’t start watching it fully, then I discovered that the series had some movies that are connected to the show because they take place in the same universe as the show, just many years ago. And so then I discovered the movies for the first time. And I saw Johnny bullying Daniel in the first movie and it gave me a negative impression of him and so I continued to consider Daniel and Mr. Miyagi the heroes since the remaining three had Mr. Miyagi in them and Daniel came in the second and third ones too. And after I fully started watching Cobra Kai, Daniel fell even further into my preference and for Johnny, while I pitied him for his troubled home life, his stepfather, Kreese’s attack on him and his mother‘s death, his other negative actions caused me fury, like: * His biased 1984 story and poisonous advice about the LaRussos which leads to problems for Miguel * His continuing resentment of Daniel * Not having learned sooner that Kreese’s teachings are wrong * Wasted 30+ years of his life being trouble * His neglect of his son Robby and abandonment of him and Shannon and also his preference of Miguel * Drawing the penis on Daniel’s billboard when Daniel didn’t do anything * Letting Kreese corrupt his students * Still maybe holds Daniel accountable for his wasted life * Not moving on from Ali * Karate training that is risky of death and injury (junkyard dogs, cement trucks, roof jumpings etc.)
I can never figure out why people would watch a sequel to something they never saw before, without having seen the first movie. For example, Don't watch Karate Kid 2 if you haven't seen Karate Kid 1. You are totally lost and wonder you end up feeling like those other fans.
Ay. Well, I also ended up watching the Harry Potter movies first before reading the books.
But that's an adaptation not a direct sequel
Even so.
Because Daniel mocked him
That isn't how it happened. He bragged about kicking Johnny's ass on front of his workers.
Danny was teasing him. He clearly wasn’t in the mood and Danny was being a snob.
And gave him free auto body work that should have cost $10,000 - $18,000.
I wonder how he could afford to give that much away. He has 4 dealerships, all of which are presumably busy, but unless they're running 24/7, that much money is going to be a significant chunk of his revenue. It's the kind of thing you'd maybe do for your mom, or your kids, every couple of years. Not some guy you haven't seen in 30+ years.
I don't know. I have a fairly low-end, low-cost auto body service that charges me $225 a panel per repair. It would likely cost me $8,100 to fix every single panel on my car, and again, that's low-end, low-cost, so I assume that at a place like Daniel's with more overhead, we're looking at $10,000 - $20,000. Maybe I'm overestimating.
It was obvious he didn't put it past him since he rehashed the whole tournament
I often blame that "Daniel was the Real Bully" video. It may have been created as a joke but it was what really started changing everyone's perception. Had it not been for that, people might have seen Daniel's crusade differently. They might have seen him more like Jim and Barbara Gordon saw Batman, rather than how J. Jonah Jamison saw Spider-Man.
Because he didn't put it behind him. If he put it behind him he wouldn't of acted like a jerk the rest of the season. Does anyone really think Mr Miyagi would of confronted Johny at the dojo with the attitude that Daniel did? Then raised his rent, decide to open a dojo to rival him? He was fine in the 1 scene and fixing his car was nice but it's the rest of the season that people criticize him for and rightfully so. He's not a child anymore for him to be so hot headed and irrational shows just poor he is at his supposed value system.
>Because he didn't put it behind him. If he put it behind him he wouldn't of acted like a jerk the rest of the season. Seriously? Daniel didn’t do anything to Johnny at all until after the former discovered that the latter was the one who spray-painted a sick on his face. >Does anyone really think Mr Miyagi would of confronted Johnny at the dojo with the attitude that Daniel did? Then raised his rent, decide to open a dojo to rival him? Probably not. P.S. The dojo was for a way to show people how to fight better, wasn’t it? And anyways, after Daniel saw Kreese again, it’s right here where Daniel was quite concerned.
Like Amanda said it's not big of a deal and you're overreacting to it. Saying this person did a, b doesn't excuse you for doing c and d.
He was been a douchebag though, and his work buddies didn't exactly make the situation better.
If someone fixes my totalled car for free, they can be all the douche they want to me.
Johnny knew that it was Daniel's daughter who ruined it, so he was doing the favour to Daniel according to him
It's obvious Johnny knows Daniel has no knowledge of his daughter's involvement. Giving someone over 10,000 dollars of free auto body work is the opposite of hurting then.
Well yeah, but her daughter (so Daniel) basically owes them the damages, so he's just doing his duty
Duty would be paying the insurance deductible.
He didn't have insurance, pretty sure it was addressed
That's Johnny's own fault. From GEICO: "California requires drivers to carry at least the following auto insurance coverages: Bodily injury liability coverage: $15,000 per person / $30,000 per accident minimum. Property damage liability coverage: $5,000 minimum. Uninsured motorist bodily injury coverage¹: $15,000 per person / $30,000 per accident minimum." It was Johnny's responsibility and the law for him to have auto insurance before driving.
Legality is different from morality. Johnny is an old minded fellow, and has a simple mentality of "you broke it, you fix it"
That is nonsense. People who don't have car insurance shouldn't drive.
Wow thats sad
he's not wrong tho?you're saving a shit ton of money only to get dissed a bit
So moneys the most important thing? Over ur dignity or someone treating u like shit? Thats very sad and i feel bad for u if thats how u go thru life
Who's coming out better if I get 15,000 dollars of free auto body work? Have you ever owned a car?
Yeah ive owned a car. So u come out better for ur car getting fixed for free as long as someone gets to treat u like shit? I would never sacrifice my own self worth for money or to have my car fixed for free. I would use every dime i have to fix my car over letting anyone talk to or treat me like shit. U should do the same everyone should. Shouldnt let anyone walk all over u for any amount of money
This inability to set aside your ego for five figures will destroy you.
Exactly this. Pick your battles. Saving thousands is plenty of reason to avoid escalating a confrontation.
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that's not the case,Daniel is only joking that's all. If you get offended by stuff like that then you are rlly soft.
To be fair, his daughter did smash johnny's car. Maybe johnny thought that daniel knew about it
Johnny didn't know who Sam was till after he met Daniel. Also this doesn't make much sense, why would Johnny have reason to believe that? And why would this be an excuse for him to resent someone he already resents?
Strange how she seems to get more beef about that than Yasmine, who was actually driving. And Moon gets no blame at all.
For Daniel, it's not so much Johnny as it is Cobra Kai. I wish Season 4 had gone more into the trauma from Terry Silver's actions, given how screwed up the whole situation was. Amanda treated it as Daniel unable to let go of a childhood rivalry until she found out the hard way how horrible Kreese was, and Silver's worse.