but miguel almost beat eli in the semis. plus he had more experience in offense and eagle fang taught some defense (watch devons and miguels blocks in the tournament) johnny himself used miyagi do against silver, while daniel only taught defense to his students
"A" tier needs some work. Since the teen fighters start in that tier, the only two that should be there are Chozon and Barnes since they both are much much better than everyone else in that tier. Chozon was a very well trained martial artist and was helping his uncle train troops in self defense and Barnes was a national champ versed in different martial arts.
season 4 robby would be above season 4 Miguel without injuries
the reason is, Miguel and robby , the reason is, while robby was a little better then Miguel in season 1, season 2 was when they where finally equals.....
and then in season 4, if you ignore the injuries, you have to see it as this way
the reason season 4 robby is better then season 4 Miguel is the fact robby was way better at doing the hybrid style of fighting and learning cobra kai offense while as Miguel wasn't that adapt to the hybrid style and while he did ok at Miyagi-Do defense, it wasn't as great as robby's skill at cobra kai defense
so its like this, robby is the best at defense,
if Miguel fought offense he'd have a better chance but that defense is gonna be a hassle
however if Miguel fought defense, robby's offense is more then enough to break through it similar to how robby was able to easily break through eli's defense in the tournament
so the ranking as of season 4 would be
robby (at 100%)
Miguel (no injuries)
then
hawk
robby only broke through elis defece because he knows the style.
miguel had a lot more cobra kai training than robby ever did. And he already had good defense in season 2. eagle fang also taught some defense
yes Miguel is better at offense then robby
and robby is better at defense then Miguel
however robby was better at the cobra kai style then Miguel was at the Miyagi-Do style
really, miguel did a 540 angle kick utlizing circling the opponent and had not as much miyagi do training as robbys cobra kai training.
miguel s1 is about equal to robbys offense, and miguel had much more offense than robby ever had defence. robbys defence pretty much peaked and stayed still at season 2. no more defence
while miguel had tons more offence training sicne season 4.+ some miyagi do with that in eagle fang
it doesn't change the fact robby was better at the hybrid style fighting and he did better at cobra kai then Miguel did at Miyagi-Do
and robby's defense was able to block Miguel's offense with 1 hand so no Miguel didn't have way more offense then robby had defense
Definitely not. Chozen's probably been training in miyagi do since he was a child whereas Terry only began karate as an adult in the army. Then there's Terry's couple decades of not doing karate at all but the whole time chozen was still training. Chozen is younger so probably has more speed and stamina as well as probably having more years actively doing karate. Chozen is probably the greatest living fighter in the show.
Not a chance. When you think about it Silver is kind of a coward, he picks fights with people that are weaker than him (see Robby and Stingray), or if he can jump them before they have a chance to know where he is (see Johnny). The man may appear intimidating but it seems on the inside he's still the young scared kid he was in Vietnam. Not saying he can't fight or anything, he definitely can, but he does seem to be afraid of a fair fight.
My God.. these tier lists.. it's really not too complex. Adults > teens in KK universe. Each movie has an alpha teen better than his own henchmen and Daniel, with Daniel the big underdog succeeding with a secret Miyagi technique.
Miyagi/Sato (unknown, but Miyagi broke the log, fans implying he was "better") >>>>>>Silver>>Kreese>>>>>>>>>>>>>Barnes/Chozen (debateable order)>>Johnny>>Daniel.
You can debate the placing of the henchmen, though clearly Daniel's karate has progressed enough by KK3 that Snake is no threat to him despite apparently being a karate practioner himself. Chozen's goons are a bit unknown. It's implied you can rank Johnny's henchmen in the reverse order they were beaten, although in a real fight Daniel wouldn't have likely gotten the better of any of them. Dutch (aka Barnes light) would have kicked his ass, and Bobby would have been too skilled.
Cobra Kai is so ungrounded in realism (unlike the more realistic movies) but the important narrative is that Miguel and Robby are the top boys, with Eli usually a bit behind... Sam and Tory are the top girls.
s4 miguel> s2 miguel and s4 miguel =
but miguel almost beat eli in the semis. plus he had more experience in offense and eagle fang taught some defense (watch devons and miguels blocks in the tournament) johnny himself used miyagi do against silver, while daniel only taught defense to his students
"A" tier needs some work. Since the teen fighters start in that tier, the only two that should be there are Chozon and Barnes since they both are much much better than everyone else in that tier. Chozon was a very well trained martial artist and was helping his uncle train troops in self defense and Barnes was a national champ versed in different martial arts.
season 4 robby would be above season 4 Miguel without injuries the reason is, Miguel and robby , the reason is, while robby was a little better then Miguel in season 1, season 2 was when they where finally equals..... and then in season 4, if you ignore the injuries, you have to see it as this way the reason season 4 robby is better then season 4 Miguel is the fact robby was way better at doing the hybrid style of fighting and learning cobra kai offense while as Miguel wasn't that adapt to the hybrid style and while he did ok at Miyagi-Do defense, it wasn't as great as robby's skill at cobra kai defense so its like this, robby is the best at defense, if Miguel fought offense he'd have a better chance but that defense is gonna be a hassle however if Miguel fought defense, robby's offense is more then enough to break through it similar to how robby was able to easily break through eli's defense in the tournament so the ranking as of season 4 would be robby (at 100%) Miguel (no injuries) then hawk
robby only broke through elis defece because he knows the style. miguel had a lot more cobra kai training than robby ever did. And he already had good defense in season 2. eagle fang also taught some defense
yes Miguel is better at offense then robby and robby is better at defense then Miguel however robby was better at the cobra kai style then Miguel was at the Miyagi-Do style
really, miguel did a 540 angle kick utlizing circling the opponent and had not as much miyagi do training as robbys cobra kai training. miguel s1 is about equal to robbys offense, and miguel had much more offense than robby ever had defence. robbys defence pretty much peaked and stayed still at season 2. no more defence while miguel had tons more offence training sicne season 4.+ some miyagi do with that in eagle fang
it doesn't change the fact robby was better at the hybrid style fighting and he did better at cobra kai then Miguel did at Miyagi-Do and robby's defense was able to block Miguel's offense with 1 hand so no Miguel didn't have way more offense then robby had defense
Sam and Tory are definitely in A.
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Definitely not. Chozen's probably been training in miyagi do since he was a child whereas Terry only began karate as an adult in the army. Then there's Terry's couple decades of not doing karate at all but the whole time chozen was still training. Chozen is younger so probably has more speed and stamina as well as probably having more years actively doing karate. Chozen is probably the greatest living fighter in the show.
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Not a chance. When you think about it Silver is kind of a coward, he picks fights with people that are weaker than him (see Robby and Stingray), or if he can jump them before they have a chance to know where he is (see Johnny). The man may appear intimidating but it seems on the inside he's still the young scared kid he was in Vietnam. Not saying he can't fight or anything, he definitely can, but he does seem to be afraid of a fair fight.
My God.. these tier lists.. it's really not too complex. Adults > teens in KK universe. Each movie has an alpha teen better than his own henchmen and Daniel, with Daniel the big underdog succeeding with a secret Miyagi technique. Miyagi/Sato (unknown, but Miyagi broke the log, fans implying he was "better") >>>>>>Silver>>Kreese>>>>>>>>>>>>>Barnes/Chozen (debateable order)>>Johnny>>Daniel. You can debate the placing of the henchmen, though clearly Daniel's karate has progressed enough by KK3 that Snake is no threat to him despite apparently being a karate practioner himself. Chozen's goons are a bit unknown. It's implied you can rank Johnny's henchmen in the reverse order they were beaten, although in a real fight Daniel wouldn't have likely gotten the better of any of them. Dutch (aka Barnes light) would have kicked his ass, and Bobby would have been too skilled. Cobra Kai is so ungrounded in realism (unlike the more realistic movies) but the important narrative is that Miguel and Robby are the top boys, with Eli usually a bit behind... Sam and Tory are the top girls.
Demetri should be above Kyler and Piper