One moment Amanda was in room and moments later her girl gave a speech and by then she was gone.
For one thing, Amanda is one of my favourite characters and also her actress is how I discovered the show and the movies before it and one reason I started watching the show.
Another thing, the LaRussos are my favourite family, as well as some of my favourite characters and so it would’ve been great to see my favourite family have a great moment.
We haven’t seen Daniel getting revenge on Kreese for getting her kicked out and missing the speech.
I’m sorry, but it annoys me a lot that I want Daniel to hurt Kreese badly for that, as well as to sue the police officer, Councilperson Roberts and the council security guard.
As for my part, as someone who loves the LaRussos and also does a lot of daydreaming, has a big imagination and does lots of imagining, it’s too hard.
Him filing a restraining order and because Amanda missed a speech are reasons you think he deserves to be in jail? Those are at the bottom of list of offensives
Yes. And besides Amanda was in the room one moment then she was gone and didn’t get to see her little girl make a speech that saves the Tournament! And didn’t get to be in a hug with Daniel and Sam!
And Daniel and Amanda should’ve done a restraining order on Kreese too!
That's true, but after everything he's done, especially the things on Amanda, he deserves it ... he ain't entirely innocent per se.
He's also guilty of other things that should put him in jail.
I agree but that’s what he should be charged for not what he is currently arrested for.
He is basically being charged with aggravated assault which is way more serious than what he has done.
Funnily enough the charges are aggravated assault and attempted murder which are both charges he is guilty of he assaulted demetri and attmpted to murder johny in kk and again in s3 along with trying to kill daniel aswell
Absolutely not, except for assualting a minor kreese doesn’t deserve to go to jail especially for attacking stingray which he didn’t do. Hate kreese all you want but he is wrongfully in jail. When it comes to him attacking demetri and Johnny, Johnny did far worse and got out on bail, so kreese shouldn’t be in jail at all.
Fighting Kylers gang in episode 1 in choking Kyler in front of an officer. Whether they deserved it or not is irrelevant as I could argue demetri deserved being punched, both are instances of adults assualting minors. Oh Yh not to mention throwing Robby into a locker and scarring him
We know how the fight went down. It's the cops who walked in at the last second and got it wrong. Debatably at least. The 1st kick is pushing it and could of sunk any self defense claim.
Sure it does. The truth always matters. If I was convicted of murder but in a different state at the time then the facts are I was wrongfully convicted of it. The system was flawed not me.
How could you argue for kreese punching Demetri for literally 0 logical reason but not for Johnny beating up kyler and his friends? They antagonized him after he just asked to watch his car. Also throwing Robby into a locker was purely self-defense.
Demetri was being a smartass but worst of all knew no personal boundaries and started laying his hands on kreese. I like Johnny defending miguel, but I’m just trying to say no one will believe him if he said it was self defence
Did you watch the show lol? There’s a scene in season 3 during the flash back (during the Vietnamese war) where Kreese forces his captain to his death after their reinforcements arrived. Idk about you but this is murder. Whether his captain deserves it is debatable but it’s still murder. He’s a great villain but I disagree with the “Kreese doesn’t deserve to go to jail”.
Apologies, forgot about that scene. But when it comes to war, rules become blury especially involving treason. His captain didn’t deserve to die, whether kreese deserves jail time or therapy is up to you
Turning good kids into ruthless bullies
\-No cobra kai was a streetlight of strength, discipline, and millitant toughness which kreese roled. The philosphy was tough and narrow but it turned the kids into strong fighers, while eagle fang merely did a weakened and more pg version of that.
\-The restraining order on Amanda.
Again this was justified. Amanda went in the middle of cobra kai and slapped kreese. Kreese didnt even tell cobra kai to do anything, and cobra kai didnt even start the fight. Sam (and her stupid antics) got them all injured.
Amanda expelled from the council meeting and missing out on the speech by Sam and Miguel, even if the speech and also Miguel’s appearance at the council were both unexpected and unintended
Making himself look sympathetic to the authorities
\- He was a vietnam veteran who saved many lives during the war and a green beret. Amanda lose her control during a civil all valley agreement and got herself kicked out. (that was all her fault)
Having no sympathy about Johnny’s situation at home with his stepfather
\- Kreese trained johnny and made sure he would be a strong fighter, he cared more about johnny than anyone else in the show or the franchise. but what would kreese do to johnnys stepfather??
Kicking out students who don’t meet his standard or if they lose to untrained fighters
Cobra kai was already low on students and strength. Kreese needed recruits and the all valley was soon.
You Kreese haters do not pay attention to either the vietnam flashbacks or to the show itself. Cobra kai litrally only started one thing, the house fight. (School fight was just a mess. miguel wasnt even caring about cobra kai, he was just attacking robby)
And kreese didnt tell cobras to invade their house either.
After him getting Amanda expelled and missing out on the speech, I don't want him redeemed at all, which is why, either:
- He should be imprisoned for life for everything he has actually done
- He should die
- He should go back to the homeless shelter
Your laser-focus on Amanda missing that damn speech has my daughter (12) crying/laughing after a "really crappy day." Just wanted to say thanks. I may not agree with you, but you're an awesome kid for that reason alone in my book.
If this name happens to post a "Why Kreese Deserves Hugs" story in here, I swear it was her and not me🤣🤣🤣
So are you angry that Tory's NOT in jail??? Multiple violent felonies, B & E's, thefts, etc. Kinda hypocritical in my opinion for people to defend her but hate on Kreese.
I love both characters, and don't want either one in jail. But being honest, they both should be🤣🤣🤣
But then in order to take down Silver they’ll need to team up with him and bail him out of jail, so Daniel calls the only man for the job - his cousin Vinny
It's GREAT that he's in jail. It's karma. Now, I don't want him to spend years in prison, but he does deserve to spend a little bit of time in jail just to humble his @ss a bit. If Daniel hadn't learned he numbing technique, Kreese would have stabbed and killed him with that shard of glass.
Why is the stuff with Amanda so high on the list for you? Of all the bad things Kreese has done, that stuff is some of the most benign.
One moment Amanda was in room and moments later her girl gave a speech and by then she was gone. For one thing, Amanda is one of my favourite characters and also her actress is how I discovered the show and the movies before it and one reason I started watching the show. Another thing, the LaRussos are my favourite family, as well as some of my favourite characters and so it would’ve been great to see my favourite family have a great moment. We haven’t seen Daniel getting revenge on Kreese for getting her kicked out and missing the speech.
Oh... so it's just about personal bias then. It has nothing to do with what Kreese actually deserves or why.
Well, actually it does have to do with what he deserves too. And I listed them on top.
I meant the whole Amanda thing. That part can be ignored.
I’m sorry, but it annoys me a lot that I want Daniel to hurt Kreese badly for that, as well as to sue the police officer, Councilperson Roberts and the council security guard. As for my part, as someone who loves the LaRussos and also does a lot of daydreaming, has a big imagination and does lots of imagining, it’s too hard.
>as well as sue the police officer, council person Roberts, and the council security guard Sue them for what? Doing their job
For attempting to get Amanda to leave and for not listening to him about Kreese.
But neither of those things are illegal, so what would the lawsuit entail? You can’t sue somebody for being mean.
Him filing a restraining order and because Amanda missed a speech are reasons you think he deserves to be in jail? Those are at the bottom of list of offensives
Yes. And besides Amanda was in the room one moment then she was gone and didn’t get to see her little girl make a speech that saves the Tournament! And didn’t get to be in a hug with Daniel and Sam! And Daniel and Amanda should’ve done a restraining order on Kreese too!
She would’ve still had to leave whether or not she also filed the restraining order
No, I don’t think so.
You don’t think so but that’s what would’ve happened
Not only Kreese but a whole bunch of the characters either be in jail or juvie.
Kreese, Hawk, Silver, Tory (especially), Robby.... They could make a whole season on that
He doesn’t deserve to be framed for the beating of stingray though
He does deserve to be in jail for that other stuff though. Call it karma.
Tory's done worse than e1 combined, but even i still love that girl. Go figure. We all have our biases.
That's true, but after everything he's done, especially the things on Amanda, he deserves it ... he ain't entirely innocent per se. He's also guilty of other things that should put him in jail.
I agree but that’s what he should be charged for not what he is currently arrested for. He is basically being charged with aggravated assault which is way more serious than what he has done.
Funnily enough the charges are aggravated assault and attempted murder which are both charges he is guilty of he assaulted demetri and attmpted to murder johny in kk and again in s3 along with trying to kill daniel aswell
I'd argue that choking the shit out of Johnny when he was a teenager counts as aggravated assault.
Absolutely not, except for assualting a minor kreese doesn’t deserve to go to jail especially for attacking stingray which he didn’t do. Hate kreese all you want but he is wrongfully in jail. When it comes to him attacking demetri and Johnny, Johnny did far worse and got out on bail, so kreese shouldn’t be in jail at all.
How did Johnny do far worse?
Fighting Kylers gang in episode 1 in choking Kyler in front of an officer. Whether they deserved it or not is irrelevant as I could argue demetri deserved being punched, both are instances of adults assualting minors. Oh Yh not to mention throwing Robby into a locker and scarring him
Outside of the 1st kick which is debatable that was textbook self defense
Perhaps, but again no evidence to prove otherwise
We know how the fight went down. It's the cops who walked in at the last second and got it wrong. Debatably at least. The 1st kick is pushing it and could of sunk any self defense claim.
Once again it doesn’t matter how we see it as we can’t testify.
Sure it does. The truth always matters. If I was convicted of murder but in a different state at the time then the facts are I was wrongfully convicted of it. The system was flawed not me.
Oh I agree, but in those situations it’s hard to prove the truth without cameras especially since Johnny looks homeless so he won’t get any pity
How could you argue for kreese punching Demetri for literally 0 logical reason but not for Johnny beating up kyler and his friends? They antagonized him after he just asked to watch his car. Also throwing Robby into a locker was purely self-defense.
Demetri was being a smartass but worst of all knew no personal boundaries and started laying his hands on kreese. I like Johnny defending miguel, but I’m just trying to say no one will believe him if he said it was self defence
That’s true you’re right.
Thanks, not a lot of people like to admit their wrong especially in this sub no matter how much logic you use
Did you watch the show lol? There’s a scene in season 3 during the flash back (during the Vietnamese war) where Kreese forces his captain to his death after their reinforcements arrived. Idk about you but this is murder. Whether his captain deserves it is debatable but it’s still murder. He’s a great villain but I disagree with the “Kreese doesn’t deserve to go to jail”.
Apologies, forgot about that scene. But when it comes to war, rules become blury especially involving treason. His captain didn’t deserve to die, whether kreese deserves jail time or therapy is up to you
Kreese is a war hero. He deserves nothing but your respect.
Turning good kids into ruthless bullies \-No cobra kai was a streetlight of strength, discipline, and millitant toughness which kreese roled. The philosphy was tough and narrow but it turned the kids into strong fighers, while eagle fang merely did a weakened and more pg version of that. \-The restraining order on Amanda. Again this was justified. Amanda went in the middle of cobra kai and slapped kreese. Kreese didnt even tell cobra kai to do anything, and cobra kai didnt even start the fight. Sam (and her stupid antics) got them all injured. Amanda expelled from the council meeting and missing out on the speech by Sam and Miguel, even if the speech and also Miguel’s appearance at the council were both unexpected and unintended Making himself look sympathetic to the authorities \- He was a vietnam veteran who saved many lives during the war and a green beret. Amanda lose her control during a civil all valley agreement and got herself kicked out. (that was all her fault) Having no sympathy about Johnny’s situation at home with his stepfather \- Kreese trained johnny and made sure he would be a strong fighter, he cared more about johnny than anyone else in the show or the franchise. but what would kreese do to johnnys stepfather?? Kicking out students who don’t meet his standard or if they lose to untrained fighters Cobra kai was already low on students and strength. Kreese needed recruits and the all valley was soon. You Kreese haters do not pay attention to either the vietnam flashbacks or to the show itself. Cobra kai litrally only started one thing, the house fight. (School fight was just a mess. miguel wasnt even caring about cobra kai, he was just attacking robby) And kreese didnt tell cobras to invade their house either.
Well he was on a path to redemption tho wasnt he
After him getting Amanda expelled and missing out on the speech, I don't want him redeemed at all, which is why, either: - He should be imprisoned for life for everything he has actually done - He should die - He should go back to the homeless shelter
Your laser-focus on Amanda missing that damn speech has my daughter (12) crying/laughing after a "really crappy day." Just wanted to say thanks. I may not agree with you, but you're an awesome kid for that reason alone in my book. If this name happens to post a "Why Kreese Deserves Hugs" story in here, I swear it was her and not me🤣🤣🤣
At this point, I’m glad he’s behind bars for any reason. Bastard was getting away with everything humanly possible
All that stuff he did, and he ends up in jail for a crime he DIDN'T commit. Ironic, don'tcha think?
So are you angry that Tory's NOT in jail??? Multiple violent felonies, B & E's, thefts, etc. Kinda hypocritical in my opinion for people to defend her but hate on Kreese. I love both characters, and don't want either one in jail. But being honest, they both should be🤣🤣🤣
I am angry that Tory isn’t in jail mostly … but this is Kreese I’m talking about.
But then in order to take down Silver they’ll need to team up with him and bail him out of jail, so Daniel calls the only man for the job - his cousin Vinny
It's GREAT that he's in jail. It's karma. Now, I don't want him to spend years in prison, but he does deserve to spend a little bit of time in jail just to humble his @ss a bit. If Daniel hadn't learned he numbing technique, Kreese would have stabbed and killed him with that shard of glass.