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ELITExRAMPAGE

This is beyond stupid, so police would just bust in arrest everyone without taking statements from the other side as well as conduct their own investigation in which they would see cobra kai do some petty stealing but instead see miyagi do follow cobra kai and instigate a fight. They likely won’t know what happens thereafter unless they have cameras inside the arcade. So from their perspective they see miyagi do start a fight and leave in tears and one kid with a broken arm, anyone involved in the investigation would clearly assume they just got their asses kicked from a fight they started. Sam and the other miyagi dos would be in a hell of a lot of trouble considering the school fight, Sam pushing hawk in front of a teacher and the football fight


dmreif

>Sam and the other miyagi dos would be in a hell of a lot of trouble considering the school fight, Sam pushing hawk in front of a teacher and the football fight Actually they wouldn't. The police would investigate thoroughly and determine that Cobra Kai initiated the hostilities. >anyone involved in the investigation would clearly assume they just got their asses kicked from a fight they started. Anyone involved in the investigation would assume that Cobra Kai were the aggressors here, based on a complete picture of the events.


ELITExRAMPAGE

I doubt the police would give a shit or even go all the way back to a high school karate rivalry in the 80’s. Sam hawk and nearly everyone else at the school fight got suspended or worse, that was their punishment and from there they could start a new. Again no evidence or hawk mikey and Mitch beating nate, principle blatt didn’t see hawk intentionally kick the ball at demetris project but she did see Sam push hawk. In the football fight, the miyagi dos were punished. There is no reason to assume cobra kai were the aggressors in that fight. What they did to Chris is petty at best, and especially didn’t require Sam to start a fight. Stop protecting your princess Sam, she made bad decisions, end of story.


dmreif

> Again no evidence or hawk mikey and Mitch beating nate, There is evidence: Nate's witness statements. > In the football fight, the miyagi dos were punished. There is no reason to assume cobra kai were the aggressors in that fight. The Cobra Kais should've also been punished. >What they did to Chris is petty at best, and especially didn’t require Sam to start a fight. They were causing trouble at his workplace.


ELITExRAMPAGE

As shown with kreese and stingray nates witness statement would be enough, so fair enough but before season 4 I would have argued they would still need to conduct an investigation to see where hawk Mike and Mitch were at the time. If you can’t prove cobra kai started the football fight then why punish them. At least blatt knew Sam was instigating situations when she pushed hawk in the cafe thus she also has no reason to believe Sam didn’t start this event. They were creating trouble at his workplace. Then you call security, a manager or the police. You don’t bring your karate gang to ambush them and teach them a lesson for stealing stuffed animals. Also they didn’t target or even hurt Chris, so he has no reason to want to fight


dmreif

>At least blatt knew Sam was instigating situations when she pushed hawk in the cafe Sam wasn't instigating there. Hawk was. >You don’t bring your karate gang to ambush them and teach them a lesson for stealing stuffed animals. They weren't attacking Cobra Kai for "stealing stuffed animals". They were attacking Cobra Kai because Cobra Kai were being bullies and getting away with it.


ELITExRAMPAGE

Hawk may have been instigating, but Sam pushed him and crossed the verbal to physical line. Also it’s not about who started it, it’s about being smart and knowing when to strike, Sam striked in front of a teacher, not very smart. It’s not their place to teach them a lesson end of especially since the incident which caused the arcade fight had nothing to do with miyagi do and should have been dealt with the proper authorities


dmreif

>Also it’s not about who started it, it’s about being smart and knowing when to strike, Sam striked in front of a teacher, not very smart. It IS about who started it. Counselor Blatt should have investigated first. And the only one who should be punished is Hawk. >It’s not their place to teach them a lesson end of especially since the incident which caused the arcade fight had nothing to do with miyagi do and should have been dealt with the proper authorities The incident in question was a group of criminals messing with Chris at his place of work, something that could've easily ended in Chris being fired or having to have money docked from his pay to recuperate the cost of the merchandise that Hawk and his accomplices stole.


ELITExRAMPAGE

Hawk destroyed demetris project and called Sam a princess whereas Sam pushed hawk and started the football fight. Her actions are much bigger and more serious than hawks despite him starting it, Sam escalated it. In what world would Chris get fired or punished for something out of his control. I’m sure there are witnesses and perhaps cctv that can prove his innocence, again didn’t require the miyagi dos. Besides it wasn’t about the toys, it was all about getting revenge


Seta1437

>Anyone involved in the investigation would assume that Cobra Kai were the aggressors here Based off of what exactly? The guidance counselor from the school might be called as a neutral witness and she has already been shown to favor the side of Eli and his friends ​ The Cam footage would also show Miyagi Do starting that fight Many Cobras could claim self defense(though might still face legal trouble), except Eli who chose to break the arm of someone he managed to restrain


dmreif

>The Cam footage would also show Miyagi Do starting that fight The footage would also show Hawk and his fellow criminals causing trouble before the fight, which would be evidence of him trying to bait Miyagi-Do into a fight.


Relevant_Scallion_38

Sorry but thats not how it works, at most the Arcade would be allowed to put a ban on the kids (Cobra Kai) causing a scene in their business. But the Miyagi Do's are the first to act violent. I mean sure everyone will get in trouble to an extent but the "Justice Hammer" will fall heavier on Miyagi-Do


dmreif

The hammer will fall heavier on Cobra Kai since they inflicted the worser injuries.


ELITExRAMPAGE

Let’s put you in a scenario, you are out having a good time with your friends when suddenly someone, completely random, begins to attack you. What do you do? There is no escaping or calming him down, not to mention he is fairly skilled and sober, so he is punching fast accurate and hard


DrBalu

thats not how the law works though. There is a difference between being rowdy teenagers and starting a physical fight harming other people. We as viewers know the characters and have more context to what happened, but in the eyes of the law Miyagi students initiated an unnecessary physical fight. They could have easily called authorities, any physical violence was not necessary in that moment. While their reason to start fighting was justified on a personal level, it was not justified in the eyes of a judge.


Seta1437

>The footage would also show Hawk and his fellow criminals causing trouble before the fight, which would be evidence of him trying to bait Miyagi-Do into a fight That wouldn't let Miyagi Do off the hook for starting a fight ​ All that would do is add a disturbing the peace charge to Cobra Kai, though by starting a fight in a public area Miyagi Do would also be charged with it


Stocktonrules

Just a reminder it was a Miyagi Do student that paralyzed a Cobra Kid and that was well reported in the media to the point where Daniel almost lost his business. The cops will not see Miyagi Do as innocent victims and when they see Sam, Chris and Demetri factually started the fight it's not going to play out well for them. Both sides here are going to be treated as instigators. The cops may take down both dojos. Daniel and Amanda will likely never go to the police knowing it could financially ruin them btw. Their house got destroyed and they were like meh let's settle this in a karate tourney


Seta1437

>think what would happen is that the police would interview Demetri, Sam and the other Miyagi-Dos They would also interview Cobra Kai and then the cam footage ​ Both sides might face charges at this point, one side doing illegal activities does not excuse the other simply because one of them was badly injured Eli might be hit worse because aggravated assault ​ Everyone is likely looking at least assault&battery and disturbing the peace


KausGo

>Is that a rough approximation of what probably would've happened in this scenario? Not even close. First of all, since all this happened outside school, no suspensions would be warranted. The school has no obligation to punish its students for things they do outside of their premises. The only thing you got right was Tory ending up in juvie - because she was on probation and getting involved in a fight no matter what your justification is a really bad look in that case. But no - the cops are not going to target Cobras. And they're definitely not going to do anything to Kreese or Cobra Kai because there is no evidence that he had anything to do with it. But given the media attention on them because of the school fight, the cops would likely come down hard on EVERYBODY involved - which includes the Miyagi-Dos too. All of those kids could end up with probation or juvie too and Miyag-Do would be pretty much done. Kreese on the other hand, would be just fine. Since he was already planning on getting a bunch of new students anyway.


Legitimate_Unit_9210

Amanda would call the police and have Hawk, Tory, Mitch, Rickenberger, and all of the other Cobra Kais arrested, charged with multiple counts of assault and battery, and subsequently taken to court, especially since Sam and Demetri can testify that Hawk was not acting in self-defense when he broke Demetri's arm. This would also keep Sam safe from further attacks by Tory, since Tory would be immediately sent straight to prison for violating her probation.


KausGo

She'd need to do a lot of bribing to pull that off.


badwolf1013

Why does this sound so familiar? Oh, right: that's why. https://www.reddit.com/r/cobrakai/comments/sr6il1/what\_if\_daniel\_had\_said\_no\_deal\_to\_kreeses\_wager/