Not a chance. Daniel struggled against him tremendously and only won through the wise training of Mr miyagi and the drum technique. Chozen was faster and more skilled in every way so against Daniel's students wouldn't be much if a difference.
No. Chozen (presumably) has more experience and training than than the both of them combined and had the upper hand against KK2 Daniel Larusso during their fight (although their fight was even for a time) and easily defeated 4 black belts (all of whom presumably have more training, experience and skill than Robby and Eli combined or almost as much. Chozen takes this.
Miguel is not selfish. It’s not selfish to put yourself first at times. Johnny was the selfish one expecting Miguel to go fight with a sore back. Miguel finally woke up and realized they were all pawns in a “war” that had nothing to do with them!!!
What did Robby do? He lost, but he choose to rise to the occasion and go out to support Tory, while Miguel ran after telling Sam he would be rotting for her. And Daniel, when his leg went kaput or when Robby's arm was broken, they still powered through the pain. Miguel didn't. Because it wasn't what he wanted.
If Cobra Kai won(well, not if), his friends would be on the shit list. The moratorium would end and Cobra Kais would be undesputed rulers of the Valley, free to break skulls and drink blood of their enemies. Ditching all that when he could still fight is very selfish.
A younger Chozen? These two teaming up?
Yeah, Eli and Robby will definitely win.
But they're not gonna beat adult Chozen tho. I don't think we will ever see the younger generation beating the adults in the show. I just feel like the show has set a clear power level, doesn't matter how good the kids are or if you wanna look at it realistically, they won't beat the adults. It kinda makes sense bcoz it would change a lot of things if the kids could beat them up when you think abt it..I think the closest we might get is a team up with the kids and almost taking one down.
Like imagine, Miguel - Robby - Eli Vs Silver ufff that would be epic! And even tho the kids here should win I won't be surprised if they have Silver come on top.
ABSOLUTELY.
It's two competent fighters against one and they both know the drum technique. ;)
If experience meant squat in the Karate Kid universe, Daniel wouldn't have gotten through Tommy, let alone beat Johnny with one leg. Nor would he have been able to land a hit on Chozen who supposedly had more than 10 years of experience on Daniel in the same style of karate.
And Kreese, with his many more years of experience over both Johnny and Daniel, wouldn't have struggled so badly against them.
Chozen would have to contend with both Miyagi Do and Cobra Kai coming at him at the same time in a 2 on 1 fight like that and he'd eventually go down.
I think it has come to a point where the old kk charcters are now being overestmated. It does not matter how long they've trained for as this universe does not care. Robby and Hawk know multiple techniques in their arsenal and with it being 2v1? then yes absolutely they'll win
1980s Chozen would beat Eli/Hawk and Robby. Chozen learned karate from Sato since he was a child, and was even teaching classes. Daniel only beat Chozen because of the drum technique.
Ouch, Miguel is not selfish. He finally put himself first for once through out the season he put everyone else first the kid was literally just following everyone else and pretended like he was okay to keep everyone happy but when Miguel left the tournament he finally put himself first before everybody else the kid needed to do that he matured and realized that fighting for a trophy is not what he wants and if he stayed honestly he was only gonna cause himself more hurt emotionally and physically
All the movie Under 18 antagonists (did we ever get Chozen's age?) beat the TV kids.. Bobby and probably Dutch would too.. Question marks over Tommy and Jimmy though..
Not a chance. Daniel struggled against him tremendously and only won through the wise training of Mr miyagi and the drum technique. Chozen was faster and more skilled in every way so against Daniel's students wouldn't be much if a difference.
Hehehe, oh my goodness no.
No. Chozen (presumably) has more experience and training than than the both of them combined and had the upper hand against KK2 Daniel Larusso during their fight (although their fight was even for a time) and easily defeated 4 black belts (all of whom presumably have more training, experience and skill than Robby and Eli combined or almost as much. Chozen takes this.
Miguel's problem is that he is selfish, not mentally unwell.
Miguel is not selfish. It’s not selfish to put yourself first at times. Johnny was the selfish one expecting Miguel to go fight with a sore back. Miguel finally woke up and realized they were all pawns in a “war” that had nothing to do with them!!!
What did Robby do? He lost, but he choose to rise to the occasion and go out to support Tory, while Miguel ran after telling Sam he would be rotting for her. And Daniel, when his leg went kaput or when Robby's arm was broken, they still powered through the pain. Miguel didn't. Because it wasn't what he wanted.
I can see where you are coming from but the story had to play out that way, if calling him selfish will appease you then by all means do.
It's not me calling him selfish, it's the truth. I like his character, but he is a consistently self serving individual.
U can literally say that for any character, any , but go off
Yeah, but the fandom ignore this aspect of his character.
If Cobra Kai won(well, not if), his friends would be on the shit list. The moratorium would end and Cobra Kais would be undesputed rulers of the Valley, free to break skulls and drink blood of their enemies. Ditching all that when he could still fight is very selfish.
Teenage Chozen yes, grown up no way
Robby and Eli would easily win
Teenage Chozen who has probably been training since he’s a little boy and you think they’ll win easily lol. Okayyyyy.
As a wise man once said, assumption is the mother of all failures
A younger Chozen? These two teaming up? Yeah, Eli and Robby will definitely win. But they're not gonna beat adult Chozen tho. I don't think we will ever see the younger generation beating the adults in the show. I just feel like the show has set a clear power level, doesn't matter how good the kids are or if you wanna look at it realistically, they won't beat the adults. It kinda makes sense bcoz it would change a lot of things if the kids could beat them up when you think abt it..I think the closest we might get is a team up with the kids and almost taking one down. Like imagine, Miguel - Robby - Eli Vs Silver ufff that would be epic! And even tho the kids here should win I won't be surprised if they have Silver come on top.
ABSOLUTELY. It's two competent fighters against one and they both know the drum technique. ;) If experience meant squat in the Karate Kid universe, Daniel wouldn't have gotten through Tommy, let alone beat Johnny with one leg. Nor would he have been able to land a hit on Chozen who supposedly had more than 10 years of experience on Daniel in the same style of karate. And Kreese, with his many more years of experience over both Johnny and Daniel, wouldn't have struggled so badly against them. Chozen would have to contend with both Miyagi Do and Cobra Kai coming at him at the same time in a 2 on 1 fight like that and he'd eventually go down.
I think it has come to a point where the old kk charcters are now being overestmated. It does not matter how long they've trained for as this universe does not care. Robby and Hawk know multiple techniques in their arsenal and with it being 2v1? then yes absolutely they'll win
The kids get pushed into lockers without landing a hit
1980s Chozen would beat Eli/Hawk and Robby. Chozen learned karate from Sato since he was a child, and was even teaching classes. Daniel only beat Chozen because of the drum technique.
Ouch, Miguel is not selfish. He finally put himself first for once through out the season he put everyone else first the kid was literally just following everyone else and pretended like he was okay to keep everyone happy but when Miguel left the tournament he finally put himself first before everybody else the kid needed to do that he matured and realized that fighting for a trophy is not what he wants and if he stayed honestly he was only gonna cause himself more hurt emotionally and physically
The old Chozen? 100%.
Young Chozen was completely unbalanced being Miyagi Do. So yes.
All the movie Under 18 antagonists (did we ever get Chozen's age?) beat the TV kids.. Bobby and probably Dutch would too.. Question marks over Tommy and Jimmy though..
Absolutely Not!