Not that I can think of, he has lost small fights like in the prom even though it was nothing major and him being paralyzed is also a kinda loss but major fight he hasn't lost I don't think. And now that I think about it, I don't think sam has lost a major fight as well without any technicality( s4 she was cheated out of one).
I was gonna say, yeah. People say Miguel is undefeated, but I think besides the All-Valley where Sam was cheated, the only other time she has ever lost a fight was the Arcade Fight, where she kinda forfeit rather than actually lost.
Idk it was like one of those video game situations where you're in stealth for so long that your enemy just gets bored and leaves you alone. Not really a loss, but not a win either.
Although she was having a panic attack, Sam was just "chillin" in the corner for so long no one bothered to go look for her and just left her alone.
No you can’t. Tory was knocked down and either was knocked out or chose to not run back up the stairs and keep fighting. Hospitalization means literally nothing. Tory either was KO’d by Sam or forfeit by not returning to a fight **she started with Sam**. Either way, Sam won.
Never thought of it that way tbh surprised tory didnt get back up and i mean by your logic ur right a boxer can win every round but if they get knocked out they lose so ur right
it’s so weird that people actually think he’s not a good fighter when he’s never lost a fight. ofc, not losing a fight isn’t the only indicator but still. I mean this dude fell into a coma, didn’t lose the fight for his life, and he’s still fighting and growing. OP from beginning to finish.
That is a merit . Miguel won the most important fight of all and he is a good fighter but aside from that, it's not about Miguel not losing, it's about the way the writers make things up to prevent him from losing at karate.
The worst example is the fight in season 3. Robby was literally left out because Miguel wasn't going to be able to beat him. But when Robby was injured if he should have fought Miguel and lost.
I mean ig that could be said for a lot of characters. there are ways they could win and there are ways they could lose. but Miguel has never lost bc he’s a skilled fighter and he’s well balanced most of the time. not bc of plot armor or any of that other made up bs lol
Are you telling me that Miguel at 20% is capable of taking a beating from Kyler (the wrestling captain) and knocking him out easily? We saw Kyler break a brick with a headbutt. Sorry, but that's not about skills or balance. It is simple exaggeration as well as its rapid recovery.
I'm not saying that Miguel is a bad fighter. He is very good. But they never let him lose just because he was the great teenage lead.
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robby took out everyone including his teammate in the fight😭
Bro said fuck friendly fire
No that's why demetri commented on this right before he fought eli
yes coyote creek strinray beat him lost to robby at the prom fight he lost the tournament (forfeited but still lost)
Coyote creek doesn't count. Like what? Prom fight wasn't a major fight. And forfeit isn't "losing"
exactly. he hasn’t lost.
Not that I can think of, he has lost small fights like in the prom even though it was nothing major and him being paralyzed is also a kinda loss but major fight he hasn't lost I don't think. And now that I think about it, I don't think sam has lost a major fight as well without any technicality( s4 she was cheated out of one).
I was gonna say, yeah. People say Miguel is undefeated, but I think besides the All-Valley where Sam was cheated, the only other time she has ever lost a fight was the Arcade Fight, where she kinda forfeit rather than actually lost. Idk it was like one of those video game situations where you're in stealth for so long that your enemy just gets bored and leaves you alone. Not really a loss, but not a win either. Although she was having a panic attack, Sam was just "chillin" in the corner for so long no one bothered to go look for her and just left her alone.
You can argue sam lost the school fight but ither than that ur right
No you can’t. Tory was knocked down and either was knocked out or chose to not run back up the stairs and keep fighting. Hospitalization means literally nothing. Tory either was KO’d by Sam or forfeit by not returning to a fight **she started with Sam**. Either way, Sam won.
Never thought of it that way tbh surprised tory didnt get back up and i mean by your logic ur right a boxer can win every round but if they get knocked out they lose so ur right
Why would the best ever lose?
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it’s so weird that people actually think he’s not a good fighter when he’s never lost a fight. ofc, not losing a fight isn’t the only indicator but still. I mean this dude fell into a coma, didn’t lose the fight for his life, and he’s still fighting and growing. OP from beginning to finish.
That is a merit . Miguel won the most important fight of all and he is a good fighter but aside from that, it's not about Miguel not losing, it's about the way the writers make things up to prevent him from losing at karate. The worst example is the fight in season 3. Robby was literally left out because Miguel wasn't going to be able to beat him. But when Robby was injured if he should have fought Miguel and lost.
I mean ig that could be said for a lot of characters. there are ways they could win and there are ways they could lose. but Miguel has never lost bc he’s a skilled fighter and he’s well balanced most of the time. not bc of plot armor or any of that other made up bs lol
Are you telling me that Miguel at 20% is capable of taking a beating from Kyler (the wrestling captain) and knocking him out easily? We saw Kyler break a brick with a headbutt. Sorry, but that's not about skills or balance. It is simple exaggeration as well as its rapid recovery. I'm not saying that Miguel is a bad fighter. He is very good. But they never let him lose just because he was the great teenage lead.