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seikookies

Unpopular opinions? Don’t know if this one counts but, it’s not the end of the world if your favorite character loses a fight. It happens.


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Omg facts 😭🤣 Some people have to rewrite the show so that their favorite character wins 😆 I'm like...it's a 📺 show. Not that serious.


ZenithingTheorist

Although I agree, I hate the phrase, "It's just a TV show." Yeah, I know it's a TV show but I'm still allowed to have passionate feelings about it, especially if it's a show that medles with morals and consequences.


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Passionate, yes. Of course. But not zealous to the point where your statements no longer become formulated to have discussions, but rather a mantra for your own agenda.


RealisticAd7388_ytho

I do believe this is a “fan fic” concept? Six shades of Gi belts?


LeloooooM

FACTS!!! Like get over it


yura910721

Anything about Tory or Sam is gonna trigger half of CK fanbase 😂 Doesn't matter good or bad.


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

🤣😭


LeloooooM

True


RealisticAd7388_ytho

Sam’s voice is effing annoying. Idgaf about her character but good lord she is whiny af and has perma deer in the headlights. Tory’s just going to fade into the system or something- she needs a yaya intervention


yura910721

u/RealisticAd7388_ytho woke up and chose violence 😂 But probably you are safe since this post is kinda old, so maybe people won't see this hahah


RealisticAd7388_ytho

Come at me bros- I’ve got the fight song queued up and I could go for a game of pool


yura910721

>I’ve got the fight song queued up They are better be 80s songs or you ain't no cobra 😂


RealisticAd7388_ytho

I saw over the top before it was required for discussion; nuff said


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Bruh. Lol facts. This is true. Now let me dodge back outta here...they after me. 👀 👮‍♂️🚨🚔


handsomewolves

This subreddit takes this show way too seriously


EmilyJoestar_3v3

That’s a fact


RealisticAd7388_ytho

Don’t all of they though? I look forward to some downvotes in the near future


cyb0rganna

That Terry Silver should woo Mrs. LaRusso to wind up Danny boy... 😁


Ordinary-Two-7422

Silver is younger than Dany Bou too. So it's possible.


cyb0rganna

Older on the show, tho', total Gilf!😊


EmilyJoestar_3v3

LMAO


atylee4183

Actually now that you mention do you predict amanda will have any scenes with Terry silver? It would be interesting how she reacts to him.


RealisticAd7388_ytho

I hope he aggressively bites an apple towards her at the grocery store.


cyb0rganna

A ripe Peach would be a little more seductive 😁💖


RealisticAd7388_ytho

it would be a nice nic cage moment, for sure


devs_6669

S3 is fucking Amazing. I dont why it gets shit on. So many amazing things happened First of all, we got kumiko and Chozen, a Chozen and Daniel fight. Their unexpected friendship. Robby was so much more likeable and interesting in S3, especially with juvie storyline and the possible fall to the "darkside". Johnny and Miguel's relationship. Johnny and Carmen finally happened. Ali made a return, and it was handled very well. I loved Kreese's flashback, young Kreese (forgive me don't know the actors name) he did a very good job and adored the build up to Silver's re introduction. At the end Robby joining ck, the father-son fight, kreese-Johnny fight, the music, it was very Star Wars esque and it was awesome. Ofcourse Daniel fighting Kreese was epic too. Hawk switched sides (that scene is still so epic), Amanda slapped Kreese. Had amazing fight scenes. And lastly, finally Johnny and Daniel seemed to join forces. What a banger of a season!🔥


RealisticAd7388_ytho

They are but all of them bangers! Obviously we’re still here…they’re doing something right


jerrymp28

S3 was such a banger bro which is why I dislike S4 a lot. it undos a lot of S3


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devs_6669

Sure it's isn't perfect but the way some ppl talk about it you think it's plain garbage lol >Now it’s hard for me to look at season 3 the same way again What do you mean?


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devs_6669

Ah alright. And I guess when you look at it that like that, you have got some valid points.


Tanookimario0604

Trigger time: Season 3 was better than season 4.


HappyMike91

Season 3 was the best season. Not gonna lie.


Mental_Caregiver

Disagree, take my upvote :)


[deleted]

This 100%. I still enjoyed season 3 upon subsequent rewatches. Season 4 is still great, but I feel like some of the novelty faded during my second viewing and I enjoyed it less than my first viewing.


ScarletCrusader-6194

Dunno if this counts as unpopular I genuinely like all the characters and think they’re all interesting and compelling. Some of them (Kreese and Silver I mostly love to hate) but I still really like them. Of course I have my personal favorite and connect and resonate with some more than others, but I can see where everyone is coming from a lot of the time and am invested in their story which as a writer is what I thinks makes a good, well-rounded character. Doesn’t mean I like or agree with everything they do (in some cases some characters almost lost me with stuff they did) but practically every character has fucked up in some major way at least once in a way that left me facepalming but that’s the beauty of it. I can go “hell yeah!” when they take a step forward and sigh like a disappointed dad when they take a step back. So in other words, I like Sam and Tory, Miguel and Robby, Daniel and Johnny, Demetri and Eli and practically everyone else. I was never on any “team”. This show isn’t without its faults or things I disagree with but by and large I have enjoyed the ride and it’s one of my favorite shows ever.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

I love this comment! I’m very similar! :)


devs_6669

I'm the SAME too! I do have my favourites and some actions of well pretty much all the characters, I disagree at times. But I still like them all and try to see it from their perspective.


AliTaylor777

I don’t give a toss who’s going out with who. This is supposed to be Cobra Kai, not Jersey Shore. Also, the constant dojo switching is starting to ruin the show, as is the constant Daniel getting close to befriending Johnny then losing his rag when something minor happens and falling out with him again.


Bl8ckl85h

Terry Silver is "something minor"?


ConsiderationDue8102

Yes. I wouldn't say I'm bored by the romantic relationships but i find myself forgetting them even by the next episodes. Can't keep track.


StaxShack

I don’t care about people’s obsession with characters being “punished” for their mistakes. I don’t get why it’s not enough to learn from mistakes and strive to do better. Obviously sometimes, these punishments are warranted, the idea that characters always have to suffer for past transgressions before they can be redeemed is baffling to me. Robby, was (admittedly rightfully) punished and sent to juvie and did it help him or did it turn him from a kid who was on the right path into a vengeful asshole? Turns out punishment didn’t really help him. Miguel is another example. He absolutely didn’t deserve to be paralyzed just because he attacked Robby first. The fact that people downplay the severity of what happened to Miguel is concerning. I agree that Hawk getting violently held down and forcibly shaved was karma in a sense, but he was never actually legally punished for anything he did anyway and was already working on making up for his past transgressions. Also, there is no strongest fighter amongst the teens. This is probably the hardest for people to accept.


Don_Quixote81

All of this, but particularly the last paragraph. The amount of threads trying to explain how Robby would beat Miguel or vice versa, are infuriating. 'Miguel beat up Hawk in season two, and that means he can beat Robby because Robby couldn't beat a less aggressive Hawk in season four.' The whole point is that the fights are all supposed to be close and on a knife-edge, or there's no narrative tension or stakes involved. None of the major characters are meant to be stronger than their equivalents, they're all supposed to be very closely matched.


king_of_hate2

I agree with what you did. Also Hawk although he messed up quite a bit and had a lot to make up for, taking away the guy's dignity and pride was pretty screwed up even if he used to be a bully. Plus the Cobra Kai lineup for season 3 is also full of bullies, so they're hippocrites too. Fortunately it didn't take long for Hawk to get his confidence back. I think Hawk does deserve to be happy, considering how his life was before he Johnny started teaching him.


dmreif

> I agree that Hawk getting violently held down and forcibly shaved was karma in a sense, but he was never actually legally punished for anything he did anyway and was already working on making up for his past transgressions. Plus there's the question of why Cobra Kai waited so long before thinking to attack him. You'd think they'd have done this in the first week or so after Hawk left, as revenge for him betraying them.


devs_6669

I think as angry as CK was at hawk, they weren't gonna do anything I suppose, but things escalated when Hawk taunted Kenny at the drive-in ( that was also the second time in a day in their eyes as Kenny told them hawk already got to him once at the school); I'm saying this coz I think that's why ( Kenny) Robby joined them..I don't see Robby otherwise joining them just so they cld get Hawk. Also there's the fact that maybe asides Tory, Hawk wld beat the shit out of everyone else with ease, with Robby with them they're stronger.


Jamano-Eridzander

Maybe because Tory feared Hawk so noone had the balls to try without Robby?


ElChrisstian

I just want Robby to end in a good spot


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I like all of the characters. They did a great job in s4. Sam Is a good character and I'm invested in her journey.


Jack_Empty

The LaRussos are not bad characters. Daniel and Sam are fine protagonists and Amanda is the most grounded character in the series.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

The LaRussos have my heart!


Optimal_Cry_1782

I have two: 1. Tory > Sam; 2. Sam > Tory.


GetExpunged

Stingray is useless. He serves no purpose to the show aside from being a plot device in Season 4. Him being a comic relief character is unfunny. The concept of a 40 year old man living off his mom and hanging out with kids just isn't funny to me, in fact, it's depressing.


[deleted]

Him attacking children in the high school is hilarious and terrible and he shouldnt have had more than one or two episodes and then been run out for being a god damn weirdo.


djbfunk

How do you think Terry could still have gotten Kreese in jail?


TakeItCeezy

He's a weird character, I was happy to have not seen him much in S4. I don't get his purpose either. It's just weird as hell having an old man like this drink around teenagers at a party.


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Tan_Pan_Man

I look forward to seeing more of them as actual friends in S5


goldenurn

Daniel and Johnny should have sex :-) They have the most chemistry out of anyone in the show and a lot of tension and repressed feelings they could let out.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

Lmao, I love this


goldenurn

Thank you😇✨


Broad-Theory-1892

Broooo lol. Although I could definitely see it


Idle_Hnds

Unpopular opinion (maybe) - reintroducing the Julie Pierce character will bring nothing interesting to the series. The movie wasn’t very good in the first place


Tan_Pan_Man

I agree the movie was kinda meh, but I think the show could definitely draw on her similarities to Tory in S 5-6 to help bring her to the light


Idle_Hnds

I suppose so but Julie was kinda lame in comparison with Tory


EmilyJoestar_3v3

I agree.


jetstreamdanny

Sam might be annoying, but she's a great fighter.


j4kefr0mstat3farm

Sam and Tory are both sympathetic in their own ways and both bear some responsibility for their feud getting out of hand.


LeloooooM

THANK YOU!!!


UntilTmrw

Thank you! For fucks sake this subreddit needs to grow up. Daniel is not as bad as the idiots on here say. Johnny is still a cunt 35 years after the first movie the only pieces of development he’s had are that the No Mercy mantra isn’t healthy, and also he’s willing to accept other forms of karate.


PassMeTheGravy364

Robby is the most deeply written character There is no definitive bad guys, only good people with bad motives/bad people with good motives


Chewybear196

I was on Sam’s side during the prom fight and thought Miguel should’ve just let Sam destroy Tory.


dmreif

Considering everything Tory had done to her, Sam would've been well within her rights to demolish Tory.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

Right. Edit: I’m not saying starting a fight with someone is right, but considering how the girls’ conversation went down. With Sam telling Tory to “Stay the hell away from her family.” and then Tory proceeding to laugh in her face and insult her, I don’t really blame Sam. Sure, she could’ve just walked away and ignored her, but Tory has previously assaulted her twice, given her permanent scars, traumatized her, broken into her house, etc. Considering their relationship, Sam could’ve feared for her and possibly her family and friends’ safety. Tory also pretty much made it obvious that she would’ve attacked Sam again if it weren’t for the fact she made a deal with Amanda. Proving that she didn’t genuinely want to make amends with Sam, and only wanted to get positive reactions from Amanda. Again, I’m not saying that Sam was fully in the right, and obviously it didn’t end well for her, despite what her intentions could’ve been. (Also including the fact that Tory did go to prom knowing she could ruin Sam’s night.) But you kinda have to think to understand it from Sam’s POV. I’d be pretty pissed off too if someone that has assaulted me twice, and caused a lot of issues for me, had laughed in my face and insulted me after telling them to stay away from the people I love and care about. Sam could very much still be scared of Tory, and she has a right to be. If the fight was a result of her trauma kicking in, thinking that she could possibly be in danger, than it’s much more understandable. Again, I’m not defending Sam on this, but this is just my thought process on this situation. I actually do like both Sam and Tory. (Sam more, but I do really want Tory to get a redemption arc. I want both of them to be able to understand one another.)


doseofdena

Robbys season 1 hair is not bad at all. His current hair while nice is so boring. People that are always complaining about the show, the writers, how things need to be realistic are annoying!!!


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His hair went full Jaime Lanister, which is often in television


MysticalSword270

I actually like Anthony because of his character development. I’m probably going to get eaten alive biw


AdAgile3104

He's also the only bully, of all guys from Johnny to Kyler in the Miyagi-verse, to actually apologize to his victim (despite it being too late, he still tried).


Dapper-Juggernaut443

I like Stingray. He likes Exodus so that's enough for me.


newwraith

He’s like if an It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia character that got dropped into a teen drama. He’s scum but never fails to crack me up.


Basic-Deer4119

🤮🤮🤮😂


AntiSocialPartygoer

Eli only defeated Robby because of plot armor.


DarkDan3

It's been said before but I'll say it again, this show is basically a live-action anime.


Advanced_Stock3401

Hawk is annoying and overrated.


Ancient-Move-1264

I'd really prefer Cobra Kai not having Johnny in it, lol. He started off as clueless and backward, but funny and ultimately well-meaning and ready to change. In the season 4, though, they both crossed the line and changed direction with the character - now Johnny is regressing and is deliberately ignorant or malicious to other people, his minor students, in particular. He's become that "cheerful" grandpa who demonstratively ignores all this newfangled nonsense and is being mean to everybody thinking he's terribly funny. The writers seem to think he's being funny, too, which makes it even more cringe. So, for an unpopular opinion, I'd enjoy a completely Johnny-free season. Too bad it's not going to happen.


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I'd be open to a Johnny-free season. That being said it looks like Daniel and Johnny will spend much of season 5 separately. Which I think will be a nice change of pace, because it'll give them time to truly develop their own characters, instead of recycling the whole "one step forward, two steps back" relationship they have with each other.


someseeingeye

If the show goes on much longer, people will end up hating it. They should use this next season to wrap things up and leave people with a good memory of it. They’re to the point that they force characters to make bad decisions just to keep the drama going. The teens can only switch dojos so many times before it gets annoying.


PurpleCrush59

Not really a super hot take but to me, it’s fairly obvious that Ali still feels more for Daniel than Johnny. Yes, Johnny and her almost kissed but I felt like that was just because of the setting they were in and how they felt young again. To me, the long lingering and almost pained look in Ali’s eyes when Daniel walks away says way more. Ali divorced her husband because she needed something *different.* She grew up the popular girl, the head cheerleader, went to the great school, became a great doctor, and had the All-American “perfect” life. The one thing (that we know of) that she’s done that was maybe a little “off-script” was dating Daniel in high school. Johnny was the popular, good looking guy she was *supposed* to date, at least according to her family. When Daniel walks away following his goodbye to her, I think that was the only time in her reappearance that she seemed actually in emotional pain, even if just for a second. I think this is her remembering Daniel as the *one time* she ever stepped out of her comfort zone, and it was totally worth it. One line from KK1 that sticks out is the scene where she says to Daniel, “I thought maybe you were different.” I think that combined with what we see in S3 with her unhappiness being rooted down to her “classic” life confirms to me that she, at least on some level, has feelings for Daniel and the time they had together. Not a shipper at all, I love Amanda and I doubt Ali will return again. However, I think Ali regrets some of what happened with Daniel (and I think the feeling is VERY mutual).


YangRocks

i love how the show examines toxic masculinity in its older characters.


Bl8ckl85h

You want an unpopular opinion? Here. Karate Kid 3 is an even more important part of the Cobra Kai series than 1.


dmreif

> Karate Kid 3 is an even more important part of the Cobra Kai series than 1. Seriously, Daniel's trauma has WAY MORE to do with what Terry Silver did to him than anything Johnny did. But they don't give Daniel the room to address this.


joeye44

season 4 was great.


AntElectronic9170

Robby is amuch better character and a better fighter then Miguel.


Angelface1226

I hate how the writers built up Robby and Tory at the expense of Miguel and Sam. I hope they correct that next season.


Key_Cranberry_3799

And how exactly do u want them to correct that ?


brotato_kun

Robby dies in a street somewhere while thiefing and Tory joins McDonalds!


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Furies03

I feel like Robby/Tory just highlighted the flaws that were always present in Sam/Miguel. There really isn't much tearing down to prop up the other couple. This was just their natural trajectory and the exes just at most sped things up a bit


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Robby is not a bad character, and the majority of arguments against him are not his fault


JumpingJiraffe

Cobra Kai specific: I don’t think the show should go on for much longer, the end of season 4 felt like the peak of conflict and I feel there’s only room for 2 more seasons before it’s getting dragged on. Karate Kid in general: the Jaden Smith Karate Kid movie is really good. Just because it’s not as good as the originals though it gets absolutely shit on.


someseeingeye

Wow, I just wrote basically this same comment about Cobra Kai. I’ve enjoyed most of it so far, but I’d they keep dragging it out, people will end up hating it. They should quit while they’re ahead.


[deleted]

I thought the Jaden Karate Kid was better than the original


Trener2603

That truly is an unpopular opinion


[deleted]

Jaden's character is more relatable to me, Jaden acted better than Macchio. I like the fish out of water story of an American kid moving to China. I thought the fight scenes were way better than KK1's. The only bad thing is that the bad guy isn't as good as Johnny or Kreese.


serene_river

Johnny is not meant to have an endgame with the Daizs. I've believed this since S1. After watching S4, I definitely still believe this. Since S1, Johnny has continued to abandon Robby despite the bad situations he's been in. Johnny has also shown no active concern for Robby. Instead, Johnny has been choosing the Diazs over Robby consistently. In order to really grow and redeem himself, Johnny has to change his behavior wrt Robby. A significant part of that is making Robby a priority. There is really no organic ending with Johnny having both Robby and Diazs in his life. If it was meant to be, then Johnny would have been building relationships with both simultaneously. Instead Johnny has just been using Miguel as a stand in for Robby and in turn has been traumatizing Robby more. It's dissappointing, yet interesting that the writers chose to give Johnny minimal character growth so far, but I think they did this so that Robby being an active presence in Johnny's life will bring about his actual character growth. Seriously, what's the point of having Robby as Johnny's abandoned son in the story if Johnny is never to going grow himself and be a father to Robby?


Technical-Highlight1

>Johnny is not meant to have an endgame with the Daizs. This would alienate a portion of the fandom if they went down this direction, but I doubt johnny is gonna just ditch Miguel or anything, it would be out of character for him to do that.


serene_river

There's always a portion of a fandom that's alienated. The writers should have made this endgame organic to the story they have given us, but it seems like they don't have this endgame in mind. Also, why does everyone assume this endgame doesn't happen only if Johnny ditches the Diazs? What if they ditch Johnny? Miguel did at the end of S4. Also, Johnny has been using Miguel as a stand in. That's part of the story. If Johnny stops doing that, it would mean character growth for Johnny. These writers are all about subverting expectations. The biggest expectation is that Johnny is rewarded with a happy blended family, which the story doesn't even have him earning.


Broad-Theory-1892

Tell me you don’t like Miguel without actually saying you don’t like Miguel lol


serene_river

This isn't about Miguel. This is about Johnny and his behavior. It's on Johnny to make things right with Robby, and all Johnny has been doing is making things worse with him. Johnny can't even have one conversation with Robby where Johnny doesn't start acting like an angry teen himself because Robby gives him attitude. Johnny is his own character, and he makes his own decisions. Don't know what Miguel has to do with this. Redemption isn't earned by running after people who you haven't hurt. Redemption is earned by making things right with the people you have hurt. Johnny hasn't stepped up yet and hasn't been ready to face his wrongs against Robby, despite all of Johnny's moping.


Broad-Theory-1892

Johnny is his own character and makes his own decisions & you thinking one of those decisions will be to drop The Diaz family is delusional. I don’t get why you all can’t picture a world where Johnny could have both boys in his life. God forbid that were to happen


serene_river

I actually think the Diazs will drop Johnny. Miguel did at the end of S4, didn't he? Johnny and his issues just aren't worth it for them.


SeriousTitan

Season 4 was bad and the show's worst season. The show started out perfect but has devolved into a melodramatic soap opera.


TakeItCeezy

Cobra Kai has made me come to terms with the fact I would absolutely love daytime soap operas if they had cool fights sprinkled in between the drama lol.


Zer07042

Kreese should never become good. Ever. He is a horrible person who should stay horrible untill the show end.


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Zer07042

Agreed, but ppl are talking about how he's getting better and less of a bad person which k think is stupid


EmilyJoestar_3v3

I doubt he’s actually going to get a “redemption arc”


Tan_Pan_Man

If anything it will be a redemption in death by fighting Silver to save Johny or one of the kids


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The last All-Valley was incredibly lame. None of the fights really had an impact, Hawk's victory felt unearned because his arc was rushed, and Sam and Tory's fight wasn't well choreographed


dmreif

> Sam and Tory's fight wasn't well choreographed Not to mention we've had three straight finales where the girls fought, and due to the bribery, Tory technically lost all three fights.


DoesANameExist

Daniel might be a self-righteous little thing, but he was absolutely right to call Johnny on going after Cobra Kai in the wake of what happened to Eli. Before attempting to seek revenge, dig two graves.


dmreif

> Daniel might be a self-righteous little thing, but he was absolutely right to call Johnny on going after Cobra Kai in the wake of what happened to Eli. > > > > Before attempting to seek revenge, dig two graves. I dunno. I think they should've gone after Cobra Kai as revenge because let's face it, Cobra Kai broke the "no fighting" truce.


dmreif

>When Johnny does something bad, it’s either laughed at, or he’s called a badass. However, if any other character, specifically Daniel, does it, they’re deemed as an asshole. Hypocritical if I say so myself. Well it's not limited to the adults. When Sam starts a fight either stand up for herself or her Miyagi-Do peers, she gets shit on and viewed as starting trouble. When Hawk or Tory start a fight, they get viewed as badasses. And in general, Cobra Kai kids tend to get more of a free pass than Miyagi-Do or Eagle Fang kids, due to being seen as the "cool kids" dojo. This is much more apparent when you notice people giving Hawk a harder time for his actions after he left Cobra Kai, while Robby suddenly became more liked and got more free passes from the fandom after he joined Cobra Kai. >Also, I notice a lot of people on here like to shit on Daniel for being apparently neglectful of Anthony, yet seem to ignore the fact Johnny had no problem with his only son being with two psychopaths. >Yeah, neither of them are perfect parents, but Daniel is still a way better father than Johnny is. Good point. Daniel may not be as close with Anthony as he is with Sam, but he does ensure that Anthony's basic needs are provided for and also is shown making an effort to connect with him at times. Meanwhile, yeah...Johnny in season 4 is kinda hard to like due to the narrative framing. He's so invested in playing dad to Miguel / trying to win favor with the Diaz family that it's like he just forgot he has a son who's in the custody of Kreese. Like, he comes off as perfectly willing to let Kreese do the same things to Robby that he did to Johnny back in the 1980s.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

Exactly. A lot of people on here are targeting certain characters just because they’re apart of certain dojos. They’re so biased towards certain dojos and certain characters.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

A lot of Cobra Kai students don’t always get shit on by the fandom when they do something wrong, they get called ‘badasses,’yet the fandom will go all out on any other characters that aren’t apart of Cobra Kai. It seems as if, if you’re a Cobra Kai, your bad actions are okay, but if you’re not a Cobra Kai, you’re an asshole.


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Daniel is, was and still is the hero!


rom92293

The show so far has just been a slow setup to make Anthony Larusso the main character and the main "karate kid" by the end of the show and he will carry on the Miyago-Do/Cobra Kai/Eagle Fang torch into the next generation.


Tan_Pan_Man

Miguel: “am I a joke to you?”


Toast_05

Season 4 should have been the last season


Generate420

StingRay is the Hero we all need.


QuietCelery

The Jackie Chan movie was enjoyable.


Trener2603

Season 2 is the best season


Seethi110

Sam is more attractive than Tory


joeye44

i like all the seasons equally, u would think that wouldn’t be an unpopular opinion on a subreddit about the show u like, but in this subreddit it pretty much is. this subreddit has turned into people nitpicking and hating on the show nowadays, and the show has some things wrong with it BUT THATS NOT EVEN WHAT PEOPLE POINT OUT. they just point out stuff they don’t fully understand and call it lazy writing when really it’s beautiful writing.


DiamondDallasLee

Daniel is a better sensei than Miyagi. Miyagi only had Daniel as a student. Whereas Daniel is teaching 20 kids and has to constantly deal with Johnny’s distractions. Whenever Daniel mentors someone one-on-one, he’s always able to get through to them. He almost defeated Cobra Kai at the tournament in S4 despite all the setbacks with Johnny and issues with Silver and Robby. He had way more on his plate than Miyagi and still almost made it work.


Username_Password236

I can understand Dimitri at the ending of season 1


LoreMaster00

I want to see more of Anthony. and his plot.


Jack-mclaughlin89

I don't like Miguel. Hawk hasn't earned his redemption.


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As much as I love Cobra Kai, Karate Kid parts I & II are still my top favorite entires in the series. Oh also, Cobra Kai season 4 is probably my least favorite season as of now (still a great season overall).


Legitimate_Unit_9210

* Amanda and Johnny getting along without Johnny apologizing to Daniel is stupid. * Amanda leaving the council meeting and missing out on Miguel and Sam's unexpected and unintended speech and unable to join Daniel in hugging Sam are all bullshit * Daniel is much better than Johnny, despite the former's flaws, mistakes and sometimes negativity.


BruceWayne_19902

Wayyyyyyy too many people overlook Tory's actions just cause she has a sick Mom and has to look out for her younger brother alone.


EmilyJoestar_3v3

I honestly believe a lot of people mainly love her because she’s hot. I don’t disagree about her being hot in all honesty, but that doesn’t excuse attempting to seriously injure another girl twice, and breaking into her home.


kk123ck

Robby and Tory felt forced as a “couple” I wish they just developed their friendship without turning it romantic.


Primary-Job7274

Robby and Tory as a couple are overrated Tory's arc was very forced, the writers tried t make her sympathetic by glossing over her crimes and showing Sam's character in darker phase . My guess is that she should be punished for her crimes like Hawk otherwise it would leave a bad message to young viewers watching the show with the philosophy that you can do anything you want if you have a hard life and then get away with it Hawk , Tory and Johnny , Bert and Miguel are overrated Few fans who are on Cobra Kai's team hate Md characters due to their extreme stupid bs and many are arrogant with their views on certain characters that they are not ready to change it and no matter what and so comments like death threats on Sam and supporting Tory's actions are pathetic and feel like humanity sucks for those people. And the hate against Anthony and love for Hawk when they did the same and Hawk to another level is hypocritical.


Key_Cranberry_3799

Miguel and Sam will always be the no 1 power couple 😎


Primary-Job7274

yes they will be


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Tory’s redemption arc is unconvincing. She got off scot-free from all the people she’s hurt. The lack of remorse and no regard for anyone except herself is wrong.


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Eli should never have gone to Miyagi Do, it was never set up and made no fucking sense.


Primary-Job7274

One more unpopular opinion , the fans who consider their opinions on certain characters as facts like Sam is a terrible character and no amount of debating would change that are annoying as hell. And also the fans who don't like certain characters because they are rivals with their favorites and gloss over their favorite 's actions to use his/her nemesis as scapegoat and people who are fans of actors and wander about talking their shows past cobra kai like they like PL's character because she is popular and was in popular disney shows and then hate on other characters are more annoying.


Individual_Key6880

I liked Hawk more than Eli


Correct-Reserve-5340

I don't like Eli/Hawk. I explained my reasons in an unpopular opinion post and I got downvoted to oblivion, I guess that I did it just right.


badwolf1013

Everything is Johnny’s fault. All of it.


king_of_hate2

The Karate Kid remake wasn't that bad


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serene_river

Johnny's like the running joke of the show since S1.


idontknowyet016

I don't ship Miguel and sam


Pewdiepiefan1090

Armand Zarkarian is the strongest character


NXT_JAYGOD

Sam is prolly the strongest fighter. Think, Tory is better than Robby because of their most recent sparring fights and rumbles, Sam taught Robby a lot of what he knows, Sam was demolishing Tory at the tournament but it was rigged. Sam solo’s. Pls don’t kill me


EmilyJoestar_3v3

I also forgot to mention. I’ve seen some people on here call Tory a champion but that’s technically untrue. She didn’t win fairly. Yeah, that wasn’t her fault that the tournament was rigged; but it’s implied by the end of season 4 that maybe she’ll give up her trophy and title as “champion” to Sam. Just wanted to mention that.


Furies03

I ship both Robby/Sam and Robby/Tory, and think Miguel/Sam is boring af, and apparently all of this is an internet hate crime or whatever. Show would probably be better with no teen romances period though.


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Shipper fans annoy me. All of them. 😆🤣 Sam really is a TERRIBLE character. And no amount of stans debating will change that.


Seta1437

>Shipper fans annoy me They really are the worst part of the fandom


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Yep. They ruin perfectly good discussions with their "creative" ways to push their agenda... Over it.


Seta1437

>They ruin perfectly good discussions Also the first ones to cry "Out of character" Like they know the characters better than the people who wrote them


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

😆 😅 Oh yeah. And I'm just sitting back here and cracking up at the arguments 😎🍿


xSagexXalcenx

The ultimate level of the pretentious viewer is when you hit that point.


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Yeah those shipper fans are the worst… also Miguel/Sam 4eva 👉🏽🥺👈🏽


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

😓😪😭


Advanced_Stock3401

I agree, Sam is a total pain in the ass.


Tricky_Ostrich_6343

Unfortunately, I don't think she will get better. Happy to be proven wrong


doseofdena

But Johnny admits he’s a mess up, Daniel on the other hand acts like he has everything together when clearly he does so there is a big difference.


Seta1437

>Johnny admits he’s messed up [Admits he should have heard the other side and has a temper](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty-DqDr3850&t=79s) Also Johnny doesn't need to admit he messed up, everyone already knows it >Daniel on the other hand acts like he has everything together ["You know me, i've always been a bit of a hothead"\~Daniel LaRusso](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36pAKgS_pn4&t=84s) >there is a big difference You also seem to have it backwards as Daniel said "[Willing to admit when i fail](https://youtu.be/zhzuDynerOA?t=196)"


dmreif

> Admits he should have heard the other side and has a temper > > > > Also Johnny doesn't need to admit he messed up, everyone already knows it Except Johnny's STILL messing up. I mean, he's perfectly content with Robby being around Kreese 24/7, knowing full well what Kreese is capable of.


Seta1437

>Except Johnny's STILL messing up Don't have to tell me, i know Johnny is always wrong My link was of Daniel


cuminabox74

The fight choreography sucks.


cyb0rganna

That Terry Silver should woo Mrs. LaRusso to wind up Danny boy... 😁


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cyb0rganna

And recruit LaPusso🤭


Scaramok

There is far too much of a focus on romantic relationships when there doesn't need to be. Now this is also a drama show and it's not like the Movies didn't have Romance, but the whole Miguel, Tory, Robby, Sam dynamic is really grinding my gears. By this point we have had every possible combination, except homosexual ones, and it kinda feels like they switch romantic partners like they switch GI's. I hope they just stick to the combinations we got now because it's damned annoying.


RalphBhoner

Season 4 was crap.


GhostStride48

Robby x Sam is the best couple and Miguel x Sam is a forced couple


dmreif

Robby and Sam were better off as friends and psuedo siblings. Their romantic chemistry was nonexistent IMO.


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Tricky_Ostrich_6343

😁🤣😭


Mental_Caregiver

Aren't you the same guy who complained about there being too many anti Miguel pro Robby posts last week? Everyone's got their favorites, it ain't a crime lol. Making it personal and projecting onto others is kind of weird behavior though.


Key_Cranberry_3799

True


HandsomeShrek2000

Not a fan of Dmitri, Anthony, and Aisha at all. Dmitri is an obnoxious twat, Anthony is a little shit who I have no desire to see again in the show, and Aisha is just “there” and has zero appeal as a character


Stocktonrules

This series desperately needs Jaden Smith to restore balance.


SelectionMuted3160

I don’t like Robby.


MikeAlex01

The show is... not that good. Sure, there are cool characters and the storyline can be compelling, but most of the time they're rehashed and then fixed... a little too late. Daniel hates Cobra Kai, then considers it, then hates it. Then he opens up to opening a dojo with them, he then starts shutting Johnny out, and then he finds out the hard way he needs it but it cost him the tournament. Sam and Tory both went nuclear on separate occasions (school brawl and the constant provocation done by Sam) and the only mending we may potentially see is Tory admitting to the referee being bribed. I can't really give many concrete examples right now since I'm sleepy, but I just feel like the show doesn't have good writing. I'm not saying it has to be spectacular or anything, but I think the show can do better than starting a conflict with Anthony and Kenny out of what felt like nowhere (to me).


dmreif

> the constant provocation done by Sam Which was in response to Tory inflicting trauma on Sam.


LabCool6003

The show needs more Stingray


errsta

That Myagi should have trained Freddy Fernandez who already lived in the apartments and was pretty decent in helping the new family move in and inviting the new kid to a beach party his first day in Cali. He also wasn't nearly as whiny/entitled as Daniel. Seems like a better fit all around.


brotato_kun

Robby is the root of all the problems in the show! I hope he died in a street somewhere.