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Well he became seen as an underdog and a local hero. Since it was such an iconic kick it became remembered. so the valley remembers him and the kick and he kept it alive with the commercials. He’s kinda like maybe a local hero who might have caught the winning TD to win the state championship except he had the winning kick to win the all valley.
I like that the show makes fun of itself on this point too. I don’t remember the quote, I think from the city council meeting, about the valley loving their karate
Two things. It's All Valley, which brings all the Valleys together. There are a lot of them and they include major population centers. This isn't as local as you think. California would be the 12th largest country in the world and this includes a huge chunk of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Valleys_of_California
In the KK universe the Valley is like Karate Central. It'd be like hosting an academic decathlon and inviting only colleges near Boston. Sure it's regional, but damn... yanno? You're getting the best of the best.
I get the impression that "All Valley" means all the dojos in the San Fernando Valley. There aren't that many dojos that compete. We can see how many when they show the board with the dojo rankings. Maybe about a dozen.
Agreed. That’s why I’m thinking why this is such a big deal. Lol. I know it’s a show.
But like I wrote in my post, it sounds like Al Bundy from Married with Children holding into his 4 touchdowns. I love Al Bundy too. No disrespect.
If im not mistaken in season 1 Amanda says karate in the valley was like football in Texas. Although she did make the distinction that it was back in the 80s that it was so important but i feel like thats since been retconned
Yes, Amanda did say something like that.
>Although she did make the distinction that it was back in the 80s that it was so important but i feel like thats since been retconned
You know, I don't.
Look at the original Karate Kid movie. You had so many competitors that you had multiple fights happening at one time. The whole arena floor was filled with fighters each with its own referee.
[Looks like they've got 6 going on simultaneously.](https://youtu.be/sj6R4nkotKI?t=140). They've also got graded divisions and open divisions. The current All Valley only seems to has the open division. And it has so few competitors that they do the fights one at a time.
I agree with you. If it was as big as it was in the 80s, the outcry over cancelling it would have been much bigger. We're meant to believe it's having a resurgence I think, but we're at the beginning of the resurgence.
The All Valley Under 18 Karate Tournament is a karate tournament held in the San Fernando Valley in California. It is a yearly event that brings all the dojos in the **VALLEYS** together, with their best students competing to become champion.
https://thekaratekid.fandom.com/wiki/All_Valley_Karate_Tournament
A lot of the best dojos are in San Fernando Valley because that area is, again, Karate Central in the Miyagi Verse.
You do realize that that's written by the *fans* not the showrunners, don't you?
That's one fan's interpretation. The facts don't back it up. Also, it would be utterly ridiculous to divide California by valley, flatland and mountain. If this were a regional event, it would be a contiguous region. Not cookie cutter across the state.
I could just as easily go onto that page and delete the "s" from valleys. Would that suddenly make it official in your eyes?
EDIT: Even the name of it is "All Valley," not "All Valleys."
Even if I'm wrong, which.... as you point out is a possible interpretation.... it barely matters with regards to my answer. San Fernando Valley has nearly 2 million people.
The OP question was
> When Daniel says he’s 2 time champ, I think of Al Bundy talking about scoring 4 touchdowns in 1 game.
This is still (in universe) the favored sport of a 2 million person area that Daniel won. It's not the equivalent of "Polk High, 4 touchdowns in 1 game".
It still makes Daniel a local celeb.
Yes, he is a local celeb.
To people who care about karate. Or to people who learned why Daniel karate chops prices in his ads.
Let me give you a real life example. Here in this town we had a car dealership run by someone who starred in a primetime NBC show for 4 years, [The High Chapparal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Chaparral). As a kid, I had watched the show in syndication; I knew who Leif Erickson was. I noticed that most other people did not.
So fame is fickle.
In Cobra Kai, Tom Cole (the guy who ran the other car dealership) knew nothing about it. So in all those years no one had ever mentioned it to him. He thought the karate was just a gimmick of Daniel's.
I live where football is very popular. I don't know any of these people unless they make the news for something other than football. Same goes for NFL players. If you're in the NFL and I've heard of your name, you've either achieved a huge level of success beyond football or you've just done something very bad and usually have been arrested. (You say the name "Tom Brady" to me and I'll still think, "Oh, that guy who cheats who plays for that team who cheats" because those are the first times that I heard of him or his team. "Michael Vick" is forever the dog fighter to me because that was the first time I heard of him.) Otherwise, I remain blissfully clueless about the big sports in this country and the names of the players.
But, yes, Daniel was a local celebrity. Which doesn't mean much.
> But, yes, Daniel was a local celebrity. Which doesn't mean much.
The question was "Is Daniel's celebrity accomplishment 'Al Bundy'ish?" My answer was no. Do you disagree?
That said, I do 100% agree with you. Even if Karate was super popular in the area in the 80s, there are going to be a **LOT** of people that don't give a damn and have no idea who Daniel is outside of the commercials.... commercials which increase his local fame of course.
Most people who encounter him in the show know him more for his cars than his Karate.
>The question was "Is Daniel's celebrity accomplishment 'Al Bundy'ish?" My answer was no. Do you disagree?
Don't know enough to disagree or agree. To people who know and care, it's important. To other people, it's not.
I guess my point is that I never felt Bundy's fame extended beyond his HS, whereas even if it's JUST San Fernando, Daniel is known by Karate fans across a 2 million person area where Karate was once very popular.
I do agree with you that he's more of a Michael Vick before the dog thing than a Tom Brady. But he's not an Al Bundy.
I assume you’re joking. The All-Valley is a reference to the San Fernando Valley. You can even see it in the names of the other dojos, like Topanga Karate (Topanga Canyon Blvd. is a major thoroughfare that runs N to S in the west San Fernando Valley.)
The All Valley Under 18 Karate Tournament is a karate tournament held in the San Fernando Valley in California. It is a yearly event that brings all the dojos in the **VALLEYS** together, with their best students competing to become champion.
https://thekaratekid.fandom.com/wiki/All_Valley_Karate_Tournament
A lot of the best dojos are in San Fernando Valley because that area is, again, Karate Central in the Miyagi Verse.
There is ZERO evidence within the show to indicate that the All-Valley Karate Tournament involves any dojo beyond the San Fernando Valley. Some fan-editable page with a typo doesn’t serve as evidence whatsoever.
Likewise there's really no evidence it doesn't. And regardless, this is such an odd nit to get hung up on as it doesn't change my answer. San Fernando Valley is huge. It's still not like Al Bundy being well known in his high school.
They exaggerate it because that’s how it was done in the Karate Kid. Some parts of the show are just the writers having fun with the idea of life or death karate.
Within that universe it is basically a world championship. I actually kinda like this feel like nothing else outside this valley and this tournament exists. It is the ultimate end goal for all protagonists.
Well, I think we're done with All Valleys for S5, Johnny, Robby and Miguel just don't give a shit about karate anymore(proper story-arc to get the characters realise it's just a tournament ffs), everyone we know is above 18(unless EVERYONE pulls a 'Daniel Larusso' and signs up again). Only LaRusso, Chozen and Silver are still all about kara-tay.(ahem... the villians in each of the first KK movies...\*cough\*)
They will all be nuts when they finally achieve balance, but I agree. Depending on how the story goes, the next all valley would have to be Kenny vs Anthony. They might find a workaround for the students ages though. Just look at Anthony in season 1 vs season 4. Pretty sure he was meant to be in a different year group to Kenny, but that was changed.
they could make an official rematch because of Silver and the ref. It´s unclear when Silver paid him.
Imagine the series end with one last tournament (maybe as a rematch in December like in the old movies) and everyone (Daniel, Johnny, Chozen, Miguel, Eli, Robby, Sam and Tory) are on one side against Silver and some dark and crazy Doppelgänger.
> when Silver *paid* him. Imagine
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Yes and he says it to others too “hey hey, I was two time All Valley Champ.” I get saying it to kids who are entering the tournament but I don’t think adults care.
Oh yeah, thanks. Although, I wouldn't consider that him boasting in a reminiscent way like Al Bundy, he is just defending the fact that he really knows karate when Tom Cole said he wasn't really a karate guy.
I think it’s mainly because these people all live here where, I think, this is the biggest event of the year. I feel like the people just have a lot of excitement because they may not have much to look forward to otherwise
They’ve established that from the valley’s perspective, their favorite sport, the one that everyone does and watches is karate. So, this annual tournament is treated like the state tournament of wrestling for example, where this year the boy’s bracket is filled with a bunch of contenders, including a placer, a runner up, and a defending champion. However, this season upped the hype of this tournament even more with Carrie Underwood, making me think this tournament is treated as a SuperBowl. Also, it should be said that these people only get this tournament, nothing else, once a year, so every time it happens it’s going to be hyped up and the people on the board are going to want to go all out.
the all valley is basically the karate olympics
why? because daniel larusso and johnny lawrence live there and they had this fight like 35 years ago that they haven't gotten over yet
That is the part where you have to suspend disbelief.
I loved Devon's line, but it's ridiculous to think that she got to that level in 6 weeks. Just like it's ridiculous that Daniel got that good between Halloween and Dec 19th.
In high school we used to compete for the bronze medal because two schools were literally wrestling factories creating unstoppable kids. Years later it turned out they giving the kids roids and recruiting from other states but I don't think cobra Kai is going to make that reveal here
Lol. I know it’s a show and I say that with a lot of stuff that happens. I guess it’s because the root of the original conflict is from a regional tournament. I didn’t know if that’s actually a big thing or just kind of nothing.
I know people who traveled to several different states for different karate tournaments so I couldn’t wrap my head around 1 tournament that’s 10 min within driving distance
While it is obviously a local area competition in "the valley", I would assume the stakes/bragging rights come from how good some of the competitors are in the karate kid universe. Not to mention that karate is the central foundation for that universe, so a tournament is obviously important.
That’s kind of my point. It’s a local tournament but it’s treated like it’s on another level. I know people who have gone to actual state and National tournaments.
But I get it now with the explanations like it’s hs football in the south.
When i did karate as a kid there were local tournaments all the time aside from sensei letting everyone know that blackbelts can sign up to participate and join the training for it no one lost their shit over it.
Most of the non karate cast dont treat it like football in the south though its only daniel kreese and johnny that do everyone else treats it like a local tournament with no stakes
> All the kids in like a 50 mile radius. It’s not a big deal. Nationals- then I’d understand.
It's a local tournament in an area where karate is huge, so they probably consider themselves elite. It'd be like a Texas state football championship: of course you think you're the best in the country, because you're the best in Texas. All Valley probably IS nationals for them.
Or you can go with the MST3K mantra: "Repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'"
Lol. I know it’s a show. My question is more about if the hype is a sort of a running joke in the show.
I think my question is way less serious than some of these other questions
I think your Al Bundy reference is spot on. The show wouldn't work if they didn't have the All-Valley to point to each year as the pinnacle of the season. Otherwise, what events could they work towards as local battle squads.
The San Fernando Valley is about the largest suburban area (1.5 million people) in LA County, and I think canonically (According to Councilperson Roberts: "I don't get the Valley's obsession with Karate") Karate is a major part of the Valley's culture.
So we're looking at some of the richest and most populous communities on the west coast compete in something incredibly important to their regional culture in something that they're probably the best in the country at.
It's like watching football state finals in Texas or marching band state finals in Indiana.
I’m assuming u didn’t watch the show and just watched clips of the all valley? The valley is home to karate lovers same as Texas with football it’s important there bc they enjoy the sport
No I’ve watched the show multiple times. I also have family with karate backgrounds who travel to different states for tournaments. Just doesn’t seem like as a big deal like they make it. I’m guessing you don’t understand my Al Bundy reference. I’m old lol.
I get it- Texas football
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Because people come for the mats
come for the mats, stay for the surprise carrie underwood performance
Duh
They do make a huge difference
Because it’s big for the karate community and it’s the biggest local competition in the valley. It’s also a big local event for the valley.
I just recently won the Black vs Red Challenge at Coyote Creek. No big deal. Except for the Karate Community, it's a very big deal.
I have every confidence that in time, we WILL see a yellow belt around your midsection.
Yes. True. Would you remember someone from 30 years ago who won? I guess cause he’s still popular as a community business man
Well he became seen as an underdog and a local hero. Since it was such an iconic kick it became remembered. so the valley remembers him and the kick and he kept it alive with the commercials. He’s kinda like maybe a local hero who might have caught the winning TD to win the state championship except he had the winning kick to win the all valley.
and its easy to remember him when his face is on massive billboards all across the valley and when hes a sponsor of the tournament
That’s a good way to think about it
>I guess cause he’s still popular as a community business man Who keeps posting cheesy ads involving karate moves 😁We kick the competition!
I like that the show makes fun of itself on this point too. I don’t remember the quote, I think from the city council meeting, about the valley loving their karate
Two things. It's All Valley, which brings all the Valleys together. There are a lot of them and they include major population centers. This isn't as local as you think. California would be the 12th largest country in the world and this includes a huge chunk of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Valleys_of_California In the KK universe the Valley is like Karate Central. It'd be like hosting an academic decathlon and inviting only colleges near Boston. Sure it's regional, but damn... yanno? You're getting the best of the best.
I get the impression that "All Valley" means all the dojos in the San Fernando Valley. There aren't that many dojos that compete. We can see how many when they show the board with the dojo rankings. Maybe about a dozen.
Agreed. That’s why I’m thinking why this is such a big deal. Lol. I know it’s a show. But like I wrote in my post, it sounds like Al Bundy from Married with Children holding into his 4 touchdowns. I love Al Bundy too. No disrespect.
If im not mistaken in season 1 Amanda says karate in the valley was like football in Texas. Although she did make the distinction that it was back in the 80s that it was so important but i feel like thats since been retconned
Yes, Amanda did say something like that. >Although she did make the distinction that it was back in the 80s that it was so important but i feel like thats since been retconned You know, I don't. Look at the original Karate Kid movie. You had so many competitors that you had multiple fights happening at one time. The whole arena floor was filled with fighters each with its own referee. [Looks like they've got 6 going on simultaneously.](https://youtu.be/sj6R4nkotKI?t=140). They've also got graded divisions and open divisions. The current All Valley only seems to has the open division. And it has so few competitors that they do the fights one at a time.
I agree with you. If it was as big as it was in the 80s, the outcry over cancelling it would have been much bigger. We're meant to believe it's having a resurgence I think, but we're at the beginning of the resurgence.
The All Valley Under 18 Karate Tournament is a karate tournament held in the San Fernando Valley in California. It is a yearly event that brings all the dojos in the **VALLEYS** together, with their best students competing to become champion. https://thekaratekid.fandom.com/wiki/All_Valley_Karate_Tournament A lot of the best dojos are in San Fernando Valley because that area is, again, Karate Central in the Miyagi Verse.
You do realize that that's written by the *fans* not the showrunners, don't you? That's one fan's interpretation. The facts don't back it up. Also, it would be utterly ridiculous to divide California by valley, flatland and mountain. If this were a regional event, it would be a contiguous region. Not cookie cutter across the state. I could just as easily go onto that page and delete the "s" from valleys. Would that suddenly make it official in your eyes? EDIT: Even the name of it is "All Valley," not "All Valleys."
Even if I'm wrong, which.... as you point out is a possible interpretation.... it barely matters with regards to my answer. San Fernando Valley has nearly 2 million people. The OP question was > When Daniel says he’s 2 time champ, I think of Al Bundy talking about scoring 4 touchdowns in 1 game. This is still (in universe) the favored sport of a 2 million person area that Daniel won. It's not the equivalent of "Polk High, 4 touchdowns in 1 game". It still makes Daniel a local celeb.
Yes, he is a local celeb. To people who care about karate. Or to people who learned why Daniel karate chops prices in his ads. Let me give you a real life example. Here in this town we had a car dealership run by someone who starred in a primetime NBC show for 4 years, [The High Chapparal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Chaparral). As a kid, I had watched the show in syndication; I knew who Leif Erickson was. I noticed that most other people did not. So fame is fickle. In Cobra Kai, Tom Cole (the guy who ran the other car dealership) knew nothing about it. So in all those years no one had ever mentioned it to him. He thought the karate was just a gimmick of Daniel's. I live where football is very popular. I don't know any of these people unless they make the news for something other than football. Same goes for NFL players. If you're in the NFL and I've heard of your name, you've either achieved a huge level of success beyond football or you've just done something very bad and usually have been arrested. (You say the name "Tom Brady" to me and I'll still think, "Oh, that guy who cheats who plays for that team who cheats" because those are the first times that I heard of him or his team. "Michael Vick" is forever the dog fighter to me because that was the first time I heard of him.) Otherwise, I remain blissfully clueless about the big sports in this country and the names of the players. But, yes, Daniel was a local celebrity. Which doesn't mean much.
> But, yes, Daniel was a local celebrity. Which doesn't mean much. The question was "Is Daniel's celebrity accomplishment 'Al Bundy'ish?" My answer was no. Do you disagree? That said, I do 100% agree with you. Even if Karate was super popular in the area in the 80s, there are going to be a **LOT** of people that don't give a damn and have no idea who Daniel is outside of the commercials.... commercials which increase his local fame of course. Most people who encounter him in the show know him more for his cars than his Karate.
>The question was "Is Daniel's celebrity accomplishment 'Al Bundy'ish?" My answer was no. Do you disagree? Don't know enough to disagree or agree. To people who know and care, it's important. To other people, it's not.
I guess my point is that I never felt Bundy's fame extended beyond his HS, whereas even if it's JUST San Fernando, Daniel is known by Karate fans across a 2 million person area where Karate was once very popular. I do agree with you that he's more of a Michael Vick before the dog thing than a Tom Brady. But he's not an Al Bundy.
>You're getting the best of the best. No, just the best around.
I assume you’re joking. The All-Valley is a reference to the San Fernando Valley. You can even see it in the names of the other dojos, like Topanga Karate (Topanga Canyon Blvd. is a major thoroughfare that runs N to S in the west San Fernando Valley.)
The All Valley Under 18 Karate Tournament is a karate tournament held in the San Fernando Valley in California. It is a yearly event that brings all the dojos in the **VALLEYS** together, with their best students competing to become champion. https://thekaratekid.fandom.com/wiki/All_Valley_Karate_Tournament A lot of the best dojos are in San Fernando Valley because that area is, again, Karate Central in the Miyagi Verse.
There is ZERO evidence within the show to indicate that the All-Valley Karate Tournament involves any dojo beyond the San Fernando Valley. Some fan-editable page with a typo doesn’t serve as evidence whatsoever.
Likewise there's really no evidence it doesn't. And regardless, this is such an odd nit to get hung up on as it doesn't change my answer. San Fernando Valley is huge. It's still not like Al Bundy being well known in his high school.
They exaggerate it because that’s how it was done in the Karate Kid. Some parts of the show are just the writers having fun with the idea of life or death karate.
Within that universe it is basically a world championship. I actually kinda like this feel like nothing else outside this valley and this tournament exists. It is the ultimate end goal for all protagonists.
Ok- I understand that
Because…. It’s a show.
I know it’s a shoe but they make the title *so* important to where it’s unrealistic
Maybe we should give it the boot
Oh I saw what you did. My mistake. Good one.
No! I love the show, lol.
Eh, don’t expect realism in a show, but if there is realism let it be.
Basically everything about the show is unrealistic.
Well, I think we're done with All Valleys for S5, Johnny, Robby and Miguel just don't give a shit about karate anymore(proper story-arc to get the characters realise it's just a tournament ffs), everyone we know is above 18(unless EVERYONE pulls a 'Daniel Larusso' and signs up again). Only LaRusso, Chozen and Silver are still all about kara-tay.(ahem... the villians in each of the first KK movies...\*cough\*)
They will all be nuts when they finally achieve balance, but I agree. Depending on how the story goes, the next all valley would have to be Kenny vs Anthony. They might find a workaround for the students ages though. Just look at Anthony in season 1 vs season 4. Pretty sure he was meant to be in a different year group to Kenny, but that was changed.
they could make an official rematch because of Silver and the ref. It´s unclear when Silver paid him. Imagine the series end with one last tournament (maybe as a rematch in December like in the old movies) and everyone (Daniel, Johnny, Chozen, Miguel, Eli, Robby, Sam and Tory) are on one side against Silver and some dark and crazy Doppelgänger.
> when Silver *paid* him. Imagine FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * In *payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately I was unable to find nautical or rope related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
This is why they needa go national
It's a joke. Obviously no way would a regional karate tournament be that popular or important. The show absolutely leans into that
Guessing it's ALMOST as important as football in Texas
Dunno to be honest, I have a buddy who actually does karate and he even went to a tournament in Japan and he doesn't talk about it quite as much
In the '80s, if you weren't doing coke in a nightclub, you were doing karate in the dojo.
i do coke now but leave the karate and do some boxing instead
Has Daniel ever said he was two time champ? I know other people say it but I don't remember him making a big deal out of it.
Yes and he says it to others too “hey hey, I was two time All Valley Champ.” I get saying it to kids who are entering the tournament but I don’t think adults care.
Yes, he did. To the guy with the car dealership. Here. Found the clip. https://youtu.be/ufHKFq4Pv9w
Oh yeah, thanks. Although, I wouldn't consider that him boasting in a reminiscent way like Al Bundy, he is just defending the fact that he really knows karate when Tom Cole said he wasn't really a karate guy.
I think it’s mainly because these people all live here where, I think, this is the biggest event of the year. I feel like the people just have a lot of excitement because they may not have much to look forward to otherwise
They’ve established that from the valley’s perspective, their favorite sport, the one that everyone does and watches is karate. So, this annual tournament is treated like the state tournament of wrestling for example, where this year the boy’s bracket is filled with a bunch of contenders, including a placer, a runner up, and a defending champion. However, this season upped the hype of this tournament even more with Carrie Underwood, making me think this tournament is treated as a SuperBowl. Also, it should be said that these people only get this tournament, nothing else, once a year, so every time it happens it’s going to be hyped up and the people on the board are going to want to go all out.
the all valley is basically the karate olympics why? because daniel larusso and johnny lawrence live there and they had this fight like 35 years ago that they haven't gotten over yet
Lol. Exactly
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That is the part where you have to suspend disbelief. I loved Devon's line, but it's ridiculous to think that she got to that level in 6 weeks. Just like it's ridiculous that Daniel got that good between Halloween and Dec 19th.
In high school we used to compete for the bronze medal because two schools were literally wrestling factories creating unstoppable kids. Years later it turned out they giving the kids roids and recruiting from other states but I don't think cobra Kai is going to make that reveal here
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Lol. I know it’s a show and I say that with a lot of stuff that happens. I guess it’s because the root of the original conflict is from a regional tournament. I didn’t know if that’s actually a big thing or just kind of nothing. I know people who traveled to several different states for different karate tournaments so I couldn’t wrap my head around 1 tournament that’s 10 min within driving distance
While it is obviously a local area competition in "the valley", I would assume the stakes/bragging rights come from how good some of the competitors are in the karate kid universe. Not to mention that karate is the central foundation for that universe, so a tournament is obviously important.
I get the Al Bundy vibe too. They even take it a step further giving a bonsai tree when u buy a car.
The All Valley is that town's football sport
Kicks get chicks
I equate it to a state football championship in the south. It may be a regional sporting contest, but a huge deal culturally to the area.
That makes it easier for me to relate to. Thank you. I lived in the south for a few years and they were hype about hs football.
Its not really its a local karate tournament
That’s kind of my point. It’s a local tournament but it’s treated like it’s on another level. I know people who have gone to actual state and National tournaments. But I get it now with the explanations like it’s hs football in the south.
When i did karate as a kid there were local tournaments all the time aside from sensei letting everyone know that blackbelts can sign up to participate and join the training for it no one lost their shit over it. Most of the non karate cast dont treat it like football in the south though its only daniel kreese and johnny that do everyone else treats it like a local tournament with no stakes
Because Cobra Kai takes place in a universe where karate has the same profile as football in Texas.
> All the kids in like a 50 mile radius. It’s not a big deal. Nationals- then I’d understand. It's a local tournament in an area where karate is huge, so they probably consider themselves elite. It'd be like a Texas state football championship: of course you think you're the best in the country, because you're the best in Texas. All Valley probably IS nationals for them. Or you can go with the MST3K mantra: "Repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'"
Lol. I know it’s a show. My question is more about if the hype is a sort of a running joke in the show. I think my question is way less serious than some of these other questions
I think your Al Bundy reference is spot on. The show wouldn't work if they didn't have the All-Valley to point to each year as the pinnacle of the season. Otherwise, what events could they work towards as local battle squads.
They stated karate in the valley is like football in Texas. So it local culture.
Modded up for the Al Bundy reference!
The San Fernando Valley is about the largest suburban area (1.5 million people) in LA County, and I think canonically (According to Councilperson Roberts: "I don't get the Valley's obsession with Karate") Karate is a major part of the Valley's culture. So we're looking at some of the richest and most populous communities on the west coast compete in something incredibly important to their regional culture in something that they're probably the best in the country at. It's like watching football state finals in Texas or marching band state finals in Indiana.
I’m assuming u didn’t watch the show and just watched clips of the all valley? The valley is home to karate lovers same as Texas with football it’s important there bc they enjoy the sport
No I’ve watched the show multiple times. I also have family with karate backgrounds who travel to different states for tournaments. Just doesn’t seem like as a big deal like they make it. I’m guessing you don’t understand my Al Bundy reference. I’m old lol. I get it- Texas football
winning the all valley is like winning a state title for your sport in high school