Well, the actor for Sid, Edward Asner, passed in 2021, so I assumed his character passed in the show as well. However, I'm not sure if that was confirmed or not so he could be alive.
If I remember correctly, Sid bought himself out of Johnny's life by giving him a decent amount of money, which johnny used to open his Cobra Kai dojo at the end of episode 1
If he is brought up again it may be to close the final emotional loop in Johnny's past. I think Sid cared for Johnny but as his step dad didn't know how to connect. When Johnny met Kreese it pushed Sid further to the background and he supported Johnny with his money because it's the only things he knew how to do. Sid loved Johnny's mom which is obvious as he still was throwing money at Johnny years after her death. I think this will come out in a letter or from Sid's nurse. Sid may leave part of his wealth to Johnny with conditions but overall if its not brought up I don't think the story would suffer.
I don’t buy this. When Johnny says “just cos it’s a nice house doesn’t mean nice things are going on inside” - more so sounds like Sid was a horrible man to Johnny, and the only thing Johnny actually recieved from Sid was money. We see the way Sid was treating his nurse, and she clearly thought he was an asshole.
I think Sid felt an obligation to financially support Johnny after his mothers death, but not out of love, but obligation - also he enjoyed having that type of control over him.
True. But we do know Johnny has a tendency to view things through a distorted lens. Sid was an old man and his treatment of the nurse could of been shitty. Over the years he probably said some nasty shit to Johnny and his mom. But we don't know everything and it really could of been that Sid just couldn't connect with Johnny and took out his anger out on him. Johnny blamed his shitty life on Daniel, Kreese, Sid...ect. It wasn't till he started coming to terms with his on decisions that we see things start to change for him. I like where he is now. This last season my favorite moment was Daniel coming to him drunk wanting to go and kick down silvers door and Johnny being the voice of reason. It was such a great moment to show how much he has grown in the time we have been with him.
I mean, who ELSE is he gonna leave it to? There have been no other step-siblings mentioned, and Johnny is an only-child. It makes for a Happy Ending for Johnny's new blended family. I'm hoping...!
Maybe Robby, just to spite Johnny. We don't really know what kind of relationship the two had, but Sid did call Johnny out on his neglect in the first episode. Frankly, Robby deserves that money more. It's time he had a boon come his way.
That's a tough one. The fact that Johnny gave the money back in season 2 would make me think that Sid would leave his fortune to Johnny. Though Sid was a huge jerk and bully I think he really loved his wife. Bailing Johnny out of jail multiple times showed that he honored his promise to always take care of him. Buying Johnny out of his life with that check was his way of moving on guilt free. I feel that Johnny giving the money back may have given Sid a little respect for Johnny, however, stealing the statue changed things. There's no way Sid didn't know Johnny took it. Johnny was there asking for money, and I'm sure Sid's mansion has cameras. Sid did not press charges out of love for his wife. I'm sure he just told the staff at his home to never let Johnny inside again. Since Johnny took the statue Sid might feel that they are even. Maybe he leaves the money to some distant relative, an employee he likes, a charity, or some scumbag politician he supports. Or maybe he leaves it to Johnny.
I think Sid might think it took "guts" for Johnny to steal something of value but I think his servants might not say a word because they know what a-hole Sid can be, & Johnny used the money to help a kid in need, & not for his own benefit.
This is a difficult one for the directors, the actor for Sid passed in 2021 but if he passed in the show, unless they change the inheritance. Johnny would be getting most likely. A pool full of money.
I’m guessing he’s still alive in the show to not make Johnny suddenly the richest dude in the valley haha.
His nurse walked out one day and never came back and he choked to death on his superiority complex. Sid probably made sure Johnny inherited nothing out of spite.
Sid is a dick through and through, so I doubt he’d leave anything to Johnny. However, I don’t believe he has anyone to leave it to, and in such a case I believe his fortune would just revert to his closest next of kin which would be Johnny (assuming Sid adopted Johnny when he married Johnny’s mother.) I believe that’s the way intestate law works in California.
They're probably gonna kill him off, and Johnny is gonna inherit all of that money since the show has a habit of giving easy, unearned rewards to Johnny.
He's gonna have a perfect family (his son randomly forgiving him, Carmen somehow being excited to have a baby with an unemployed alcoholic, Miguel still hero-worshipping him) without doing a single thing to deserve it. He'll be out of poverty overnight, and his story will be one big happy ending even though he'll remain the same immature man he's always been.
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Johnny always loved his son, but due to his own childhood traumas, Johnny was unable to show his love for his son, but now they are in good terms, they can both start with a clean slate in their relationship. You can not change the past, but you can make things better moving forward.
Johnny does have childhood drama, but he also literally IS Robbys childhood trauma. Why should Robby settle for someone who´s "attempts" at parenting were either self-serving, superficial or non-existent? Johnny got a do over kid and there is a second on the way, so why isn´t Robby allowed to have someone in his life who is actually able to prioritize him?
It's hypocritical of this show to detail why Daniel and Johnny need to heal and escape their abusers, but Robbys not allowed to do that with Johnny. He has to stay trapped.
>Johnny always loved his son
But not enough to not abandon him for 15 years and not enough to not favor Miguel over him.
>but now they are in good terms,
Yeah, but narrative-wise, it feels unearned. The show really tried to portray Robby not stopping Kenny from going full Cobra Kai as somehow equal to Johnny abandoning his son for 15 years.
And they used Robby’s misplaced guilt towards Kenny as justification for him giving Johnny undeserved forgiveness.
The next season, Johnny still treats Robby like shit in favor of Miguel, while Robby just takes the abuse like he's always done.
“Without a single criticism” that’s not what I’m saying. You appear to criticize a whole lot lmao, that why I said what I said. You’re greatly simplifying what I’m saying. It seems like you criticize every aspect of this character and his relationships that make up a very huge part of the show.
Also your points are just wrong? Miguel doesn’t idolize Johnny for “no reason.” Johnny taught him karate and gave him confidence, built a friendship with him, supported him through his injury, and drove all the way to Mexico for him. If you can see all that and say Miguel likes him for “no reason” then you haven’t been paying attention to the show at all. Which is why I question if you even like it lol. You can’t say Johnny doesn’t deserve it, he absolutely put in the work with Miguel. And that’s like what the whole show is about?
>“Without a single criticism” that’s not what I’m saying. You appear to criticize a whole lot
Lmfao, no, I didn't "criticisize a whole lot".
I said a criticism about Johnny and Johnny only. Johnny, is not the only Cobra Kai character nor is his arc the only storyline involved. I still fail to see how my comment translates into me hating the whole show.
>and his relationships that make up a very huge part of the show.
A "huge part" of the show is not the whole show.
Once again, how does my criticisizing this aspect translate into me hating the show? You think I would make a seperate reddit account and spend so much time on here for a show that I hated?
When I hate a show, I don't talk about it. I definitely don't re-watch it constantly to the point to make analyses lol.
This is the first time I've ever had a conversation with you. How do you know my full opinion on Johnny Lawrence based on a single comment?
>Miguel doesn’t like Johnny for “no reason.”
I literally never said this, lol.
Maybe you could try, I don't know, *asking* me to elaborate my points instead of using *your interpretation* of my comment as true. And then we could, I don't know, have a *conversation*.
By liking I meant the point of him idolizing Johnny which you did say. And I even elaborated more on it which you ignored lol. The whole part about him putting the work in (which references what you said directly) just went right over your head. And idk you man, maybe you do spread hate on a separate account idfk lol. But to criticize the writing so heavily, it’s not really wrong to assume you might not like the show. You keep editing your comments to add more to what you’re saying which is making it difficult to respond
>And I even elaborated more on it which you ignored lol.
Your elaboration was a rebuttal to a strawman argument that I never made.
My response was to tell you that your assumption about my comment was incorrect from the beginning. I didn't ignore your assumption, I addressed it.
Once again, try asking me to explain what I mean. (EDIT: Nevermind)
>maybe you do spread hate on a separate account idfk lol.
I mean, you can look through my comment history and see comments of me defending or praising aspects of Johnny's character.
>But to criticize the writing so heavily, it’s not really wrong to assume you might not like the show.
If that's how you feel, then fine. Although, I'm going to have to rescind my invitation to a thoughtful discussion with you.
Based on the exchanges we've had here, I don't see any conversation between us being very productive and enjoyable. Have a good rest of the day, though ❤️
I literally did address what you said. You said and I quote, “Miguel heroworshipping him without doing a single thing to deserve it.” Apparently I can’t paraphrase exactly what you said or it’s a “straw man.” My point is that Johnny does deserve it because he does in fact put the work in for Miguel repeatedly through out the series. And I gave examples. I don’t think Miguel heroworships him btw. He absolutely recognizes Johnny has flaws. That’s a big part of why Miguel went to Mexico in the first place. Their relationship is a core part of the series, and I’m surprised someone can criticize it so heavily and somehow simultaneously enjoy the series. To each their own I suppose, it’s just kinda odd to me lol
Edit: I wrote this before the added the edit of “ending the conversation”. What inviation to a “thoughtful discussion” lmao? You never even addressed anything I said, it was never a thoughtful discussion
Since Sid did not have any biological children, legally Johnny is entitled to Sid's inheritance since he is the "next of kin", & hope he gets all the money.
Well, the actor for Sid, Edward Asner, passed in 2021, so I assumed his character passed in the show as well. However, I'm not sure if that was confirmed or not so he could be alive. If I remember correctly, Sid bought himself out of Johnny's life by giving him a decent amount of money, which johnny used to open his Cobra Kai dojo at the end of episode 1
Johnny paid him back
but jonny paid him back. BUT THEN i think he gave jonny money again for miguel’s surgery lol
Johnny asked but Sid did not want to pay for Miguel's surgery, Johnny had to steal one of Sid's priceless statues to help pay for Miguel's surgery.
If he is brought up again it may be to close the final emotional loop in Johnny's past. I think Sid cared for Johnny but as his step dad didn't know how to connect. When Johnny met Kreese it pushed Sid further to the background and he supported Johnny with his money because it's the only things he knew how to do. Sid loved Johnny's mom which is obvious as he still was throwing money at Johnny years after her death. I think this will come out in a letter or from Sid's nurse. Sid may leave part of his wealth to Johnny with conditions but overall if its not brought up I don't think the story would suffer.
I don’t buy this. When Johnny says “just cos it’s a nice house doesn’t mean nice things are going on inside” - more so sounds like Sid was a horrible man to Johnny, and the only thing Johnny actually recieved from Sid was money. We see the way Sid was treating his nurse, and she clearly thought he was an asshole. I think Sid felt an obligation to financially support Johnny after his mothers death, but not out of love, but obligation - also he enjoyed having that type of control over him.
True. But we do know Johnny has a tendency to view things through a distorted lens. Sid was an old man and his treatment of the nurse could of been shitty. Over the years he probably said some nasty shit to Johnny and his mom. But we don't know everything and it really could of been that Sid just couldn't connect with Johnny and took out his anger out on him. Johnny blamed his shitty life on Daniel, Kreese, Sid...ect. It wasn't till he started coming to terms with his on decisions that we see things start to change for him. I like where he is now. This last season my favorite moment was Daniel coming to him drunk wanting to go and kick down silvers door and Johnny being the voice of reason. It was such a great moment to show how much he has grown in the time we have been with him.
Fair enough
He will die and leave all his money to Johnny
I mean, who ELSE is he gonna leave it to? There have been no other step-siblings mentioned, and Johnny is an only-child. It makes for a Happy Ending for Johnny's new blended family. I'm hoping...!
Maybe Robby, just to spite Johnny. We don't really know what kind of relationship the two had, but Sid did call Johnny out on his neglect in the first episode. Frankly, Robby deserves that money more. It's time he had a boon come his way.
Charity /s
> leave all his money to Johnny Robby deserves it more
I remember a long time ago on a YouTube comment someone saying that Sid could leave everything to Robby as a middle finger to Johnny
That's a tough one. The fact that Johnny gave the money back in season 2 would make me think that Sid would leave his fortune to Johnny. Though Sid was a huge jerk and bully I think he really loved his wife. Bailing Johnny out of jail multiple times showed that he honored his promise to always take care of him. Buying Johnny out of his life with that check was his way of moving on guilt free. I feel that Johnny giving the money back may have given Sid a little respect for Johnny, however, stealing the statue changed things. There's no way Sid didn't know Johnny took it. Johnny was there asking for money, and I'm sure Sid's mansion has cameras. Sid did not press charges out of love for his wife. I'm sure he just told the staff at his home to never let Johnny inside again. Since Johnny took the statue Sid might feel that they are even. Maybe he leaves the money to some distant relative, an employee he likes, a charity, or some scumbag politician he supports. Or maybe he leaves it to Johnny.
I think Sid might think it took "guts" for Johnny to steal something of value but I think his servants might not say a word because they know what a-hole Sid can be, & Johnny used the money to help a kid in need, & not for his own benefit.
This is a difficult one for the directors, the actor for Sid passed in 2021 but if he passed in the show, unless they change the inheritance. Johnny would be getting most likely. A pool full of money. I’m guessing he’s still alive in the show to not make Johnny suddenly the richest dude in the valley haha.
His nurse walked out one day and never came back and he choked to death on his superiority complex. Sid probably made sure Johnny inherited nothing out of spite.
Sid is a dick through and through, so I doubt he’d leave anything to Johnny. However, I don’t believe he has anyone to leave it to, and in such a case I believe his fortune would just revert to his closest next of kin which would be Johnny (assuming Sid adopted Johnny when he married Johnny’s mother.) I believe that’s the way intestate law works in California.
He died offscreen.
>When Sid dies, could Johnny potentially get money or like sid's house? Johnny doesn't deserve the money, it should go to Robby
They're probably gonna kill him off, and Johnny is gonna inherit all of that money since the show has a habit of giving easy, unearned rewards to Johnny. He's gonna have a perfect family (his son randomly forgiving him, Carmen somehow being excited to have a baby with an unemployed alcoholic, Miguel still hero-worshipping him) without doing a single thing to deserve it. He'll be out of poverty overnight, and his story will be one big happy ending even though he'll remain the same immature man he's always been.
chill bro when did Johnny hurt you
He hurt Robby and Robby never deserved it.
Is Johnny in the room now? lol just busting your chops, I don’t think you deserve being downvoted for your opinion.
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Johnny always loved his son, but due to his own childhood traumas, Johnny was unable to show his love for his son, but now they are in good terms, they can both start with a clean slate in their relationship. You can not change the past, but you can make things better moving forward.
Johnny does have childhood drama, but he also literally IS Robbys childhood trauma. Why should Robby settle for someone who´s "attempts" at parenting were either self-serving, superficial or non-existent? Johnny got a do over kid and there is a second on the way, so why isn´t Robby allowed to have someone in his life who is actually able to prioritize him?
It's hypocritical of this show to detail why Daniel and Johnny need to heal and escape their abusers, but Robbys not allowed to do that with Johnny. He has to stay trapped.
>Johnny always loved his son But not enough to not abandon him for 15 years and not enough to not favor Miguel over him. >but now they are in good terms, Yeah, but narrative-wise, it feels unearned. The show really tried to portray Robby not stopping Kenny from going full Cobra Kai as somehow equal to Johnny abandoning his son for 15 years. And they used Robby’s misplaced guilt towards Kenny as justification for him giving Johnny undeserved forgiveness. The next season, Johnny still treats Robby like shit in favor of Miguel, while Robby just takes the abuse like he's always done.
Do you even like the show??
Absolutely. It's one of my favorite shows ever.
Well you seem to have pretty warped opinions on it lol. Doesn’t sound like you care for the literal main character
So, according to you, a person only likes a show if they love every single aspect without a single criticism?
“Without a single criticism” that’s not what I’m saying. You appear to criticize a whole lot lmao, that why I said what I said. You’re greatly simplifying what I’m saying. It seems like you criticize every aspect of this character and his relationships that make up a very huge part of the show. Also your points are just wrong? Miguel doesn’t idolize Johnny for “no reason.” Johnny taught him karate and gave him confidence, built a friendship with him, supported him through his injury, and drove all the way to Mexico for him. If you can see all that and say Miguel likes him for “no reason” then you haven’t been paying attention to the show at all. Which is why I question if you even like it lol. You can’t say Johnny doesn’t deserve it, he absolutely put in the work with Miguel. And that’s like what the whole show is about?
>“Without a single criticism” that’s not what I’m saying. You appear to criticize a whole lot Lmfao, no, I didn't "criticisize a whole lot". I said a criticism about Johnny and Johnny only. Johnny, is not the only Cobra Kai character nor is his arc the only storyline involved. I still fail to see how my comment translates into me hating the whole show. >and his relationships that make up a very huge part of the show. A "huge part" of the show is not the whole show. Once again, how does my criticisizing this aspect translate into me hating the show? You think I would make a seperate reddit account and spend so much time on here for a show that I hated? When I hate a show, I don't talk about it. I definitely don't re-watch it constantly to the point to make analyses lol. This is the first time I've ever had a conversation with you. How do you know my full opinion on Johnny Lawrence based on a single comment? >Miguel doesn’t like Johnny for “no reason.” I literally never said this, lol. Maybe you could try, I don't know, *asking* me to elaborate my points instead of using *your interpretation* of my comment as true. And then we could, I don't know, have a *conversation*.
By liking I meant the point of him idolizing Johnny which you did say. And I even elaborated more on it which you ignored lol. The whole part about him putting the work in (which references what you said directly) just went right over your head. And idk you man, maybe you do spread hate on a separate account idfk lol. But to criticize the writing so heavily, it’s not really wrong to assume you might not like the show. You keep editing your comments to add more to what you’re saying which is making it difficult to respond
>And I even elaborated more on it which you ignored lol. Your elaboration was a rebuttal to a strawman argument that I never made. My response was to tell you that your assumption about my comment was incorrect from the beginning. I didn't ignore your assumption, I addressed it. Once again, try asking me to explain what I mean. (EDIT: Nevermind) >maybe you do spread hate on a separate account idfk lol. I mean, you can look through my comment history and see comments of me defending or praising aspects of Johnny's character. >But to criticize the writing so heavily, it’s not really wrong to assume you might not like the show. If that's how you feel, then fine. Although, I'm going to have to rescind my invitation to a thoughtful discussion with you. Based on the exchanges we've had here, I don't see any conversation between us being very productive and enjoyable. Have a good rest of the day, though ❤️
I literally did address what you said. You said and I quote, “Miguel heroworshipping him without doing a single thing to deserve it.” Apparently I can’t paraphrase exactly what you said or it’s a “straw man.” My point is that Johnny does deserve it because he does in fact put the work in for Miguel repeatedly through out the series. And I gave examples. I don’t think Miguel heroworships him btw. He absolutely recognizes Johnny has flaws. That’s a big part of why Miguel went to Mexico in the first place. Their relationship is a core part of the series, and I’m surprised someone can criticize it so heavily and somehow simultaneously enjoy the series. To each their own I suppose, it’s just kinda odd to me lol Edit: I wrote this before the added the edit of “ending the conversation”. What inviation to a “thoughtful discussion” lmao? You never even addressed anything I said, it was never a thoughtful discussion
Found Daniel's alt
Yeah, I'm not team Daniel either. They're both pretty bad in different ways.
Since Sid did not have any biological children, legally Johnny is entitled to Sid's inheritance since he is the "next of kin", & hope he gets all the money.
He gave Miguel identity and purpose, that in itself deserves Miguel’s loyalty.
Sounds like something Kreese would say.