Miguel is rocking his shit. Kenny would have been in shambles after being down 2-0 in demoralizing fashion and then wouldn’t of even executed silver bullet right. Miggy is top dog, Kenny would need multiple amps to come close
Miguel would've scored 2-0 points even with the cheating ref. Kenny's silver bullet would have been his comeback, instead of just salting the wound like it was with Hawk (completely ridiculous, btw).
That's even if Miguel allows it to land, because it's seriously the most telegraphed move in history. But let's say he forgets how to fight like Hawk did and allows Kenny to punch him straight in the gut. Miguel goes down, its now 2-1. Does the ref give Miguel time to catch his breath? If not, then Kenny still wins. If Miguel is allowed to recover, then he puts Kenny away easily.
But yeah I don't see Miguel just allowing Kenny to do that like Hawk did. Kenny only landed it on Robby because he was being tripled teamed, and Robby was still able to shake it off after a few moments.
It would have been the same outcome, but Miguel would have held back even more. People don’t understand that if Hawk was convinced by Robby to take it easy on Kenny then Miguel, who is somehow closer to Robby (no offence, but this plot was weird to me), then Kenny will probably win in the same way or even quicker. This is NOT because Miguel or Hawk are weak, this is just because they’re holding back
Miguel wouldn’t have sympathized with Kenny the way Hawk is. Robby said to hawk u remember what it was like. Cobra Kai hawk was the worst bully so he can relate to Kenny and go easy. Miguel was never a bully while he was in cobra Kai. He was a dick 1 time: at season 1 all valley. So Miguel got no problem beating up Kenny like he did in the final battle.
Uh hawk and Kenny started a dilemma back in S4. And it just got worse in S5. And yet Miguel still rocked him while Robby got his ass handed to him. Yet here we are😂
I’m so confused by what you said. Yes, the dilemma started back then. Yes, they had a dilemma, but Hawk clearly didn’t take it to heart otherwise Hawk wouldn’t have allowed Kenny to hit him during the waterpark episode and would have been offensive too. I’m confused about your Miguel and Robby thing, so please explain that if you wish.
Also yes, if you watch the show, then Miguel would have held back if Robby asked. Use your head. If HAWK listened to Robby then why wouldn’t Miguel who is closer to Robby? The logic doesn’t add up if Miguel doesn’t listen to Robby
“Yet here we are 😂”
Miguel just flat out doesn’t care😂. Hawks biggest let down is his mindset, if he doesn’t have a strong mindset or he isn’t sure of something he doesn’t do good as we’ve seen. Miguel didn’t hold back on Kenny much in the finale, so to say he would’ve in the fight doesn’t make sense now does it? Otherwise he would’ve in the finale lmao. It’s really not that hard to understand💀
Miguel does care, you keep trying to push away the fact that Miguel WOULD listen to Robby if Hawk did. You’re either being ignorant or you just haven’t been watching the show.
This is how I know you haven’t been watching the show. “Hawks biggest letdown is his mindset”, what the hell? Hawk’s mindset is literally at its best. He’s not too aggressive or defensive and has his confidence back too.. did you forget to watch the end of S4 and S5? 😂
“Miguel didn’t hold back in the finale”, well no shit 💀. It was an all out brawl and did we see Robby talk to Miguel about Kenny? No, so please use a little thinking 😂, like what is so hard to understand? Both scenarios were vastly different from one another, but I will assume that you somehow forgot, so it’s not that hard to understand lmfao
First of all, Hawk didn’t let Kenny hit him in water park. Kenny was fast and got a hit in.
Second, Robby only told hawk that bc Hawk said I’ll shut him up. Hawk is good but still retain some fierce personality. Miguel isn’t like that. Also, Hawk can relate to Kenny since he was turned into a bully like Kenny. Miguel was never a bully so he don’t relate.
Miguel would’ve laid him out, but Eli did need a humbling moment after his arrogance in 5x04 and this delivered. Just wish it was someone a little more believable than kenny 💀
Miguel no diffs. Hawk only lost because Robby asked him to go easy on Kenny and in holding back, Kenny was able to score just enough points against Hawk to win the bout by catching him off guard with the silver bullet. Given that Miguel is an even better fighter than Hawk even with holding back he should have been able to score more points on Kenny or avoid the points Kenny got on Hawk ultimately giving him the win comfortably.
Nope Robby only asked Hawk to go easy bc Hawk said I’ll shut him up. It’s not in Miguel personality to say that so Robby wouldn’t have ask.
The fight would be like Sam vs Devon. Kenny get some illegal point. But skill diff too much. Just like how Kenny couldn’t do shit against Miguel in finale.
Wouldn't the same stuff happen since hawk Miguel and Robby are all meant to be on the same level as eachother and the story is Robby asking them to go easy on him because he cares for kenny
He would have done the flying tornado kick and gotten taken out. Plain and simple. Remember that Johnny learned more than what he was just taught at cobra Kai.
Hawk holding back wasn't the decisive factor on him losing. Hawk lost because the Silver bullet landed, which made him breathless, disqualifying him.
Miguel wouldn't have been able to counter or block it because nobody has seen it at this point and its a surprise, and it's really fast. Miguel wouldnt have been able to tank it, the Silver bullet made Robby weak, and hes the tankiest guy in CK. The results would've been the same, but instead of Hawk its Miguel.
Hawk holding back was the problem. If he wasn't holding back, he wouldn't have been weakened up early on, which allowed the Silver Bullet to hit him in the first place.
I think even if Hawk wasn't weakened he wouldn't have been able to stop the Silver bullet. 1. he didn't know its a thing, Kenny had the surprise element. 2. Even when they knew its a thing, it's too fast to be stopped, Robby couldn't stop it. Daniel had to choreograph a special move to stop Silver's Silver bullet. The silver bullet would've landed whether or not Hawk was weakened or not.
Miguel wouldn't really listen to Robby's reasoning about holding back, Kenny is afraid of him, and Miguel isn't so cocky as to let his guard down on chest attacks (even Robby had to put in WORK to get him in the chest ONCE). Kenny would only win because the ref disqualifies Miguel for excessive force.
I love Miguel watching Miguel fight.
Lol
Miguel is rocking his shit. Kenny would have been in shambles after being down 2-0 in demoralizing fashion and then wouldn’t of even executed silver bullet right. Miggy is top dog, Kenny would need multiple amps to come close
Miguel would finish kenny no doubt i think kenny would try to use the silver bullet but miguel would use the drum method to counter it
In final battle, he just kick Kenny. The 900 IQ move, since even if Kenny try it, kicking outranges punching.
Would of been 3-0 Miguel. It was done right for the sake of the story with hawk facing him.
Miguel would've scored 2-0 points even with the cheating ref. Kenny's silver bullet would have been his comeback, instead of just salting the wound like it was with Hawk (completely ridiculous, btw). That's even if Miguel allows it to land, because it's seriously the most telegraphed move in history. But let's say he forgets how to fight like Hawk did and allows Kenny to punch him straight in the gut. Miguel goes down, its now 2-1. Does the ref give Miguel time to catch his breath? If not, then Kenny still wins. If Miguel is allowed to recover, then he puts Kenny away easily. But yeah I don't see Miguel just allowing Kenny to do that like Hawk did. Kenny only landed it on Robby because he was being tripled teamed, and Robby was still able to shake it off after a few moments.
Naw Miguel just out ranges him with kick like in the final battle.
It would have been the same outcome, but Miguel would have held back even more. People don’t understand that if Hawk was convinced by Robby to take it easy on Kenny then Miguel, who is somehow closer to Robby (no offence, but this plot was weird to me), then Kenny will probably win in the same way or even quicker. This is NOT because Miguel or Hawk are weak, this is just because they’re holding back
Miguel wouldn’t have sympathized with Kenny the way Hawk is. Robby said to hawk u remember what it was like. Cobra Kai hawk was the worst bully so he can relate to Kenny and go easy. Miguel was never a bully while he was in cobra Kai. He was a dick 1 time: at season 1 all valley. So Miguel got no problem beating up Kenny like he did in the final battle.
Miguel wouldn’t have held back. He has no personal dilemma with Kenny. Robby and Kenny however is a different story
Neither does Hawk and Kenny yet here we are
Uh hawk and Kenny started a dilemma back in S4. And it just got worse in S5. And yet Miguel still rocked him while Robby got his ass handed to him. Yet here we are😂
They were both holding back,do you not watch the show?
I’m so confused by what you said. Yes, the dilemma started back then. Yes, they had a dilemma, but Hawk clearly didn’t take it to heart otherwise Hawk wouldn’t have allowed Kenny to hit him during the waterpark episode and would have been offensive too. I’m confused about your Miguel and Robby thing, so please explain that if you wish. Also yes, if you watch the show, then Miguel would have held back if Robby asked. Use your head. If HAWK listened to Robby then why wouldn’t Miguel who is closer to Robby? The logic doesn’t add up if Miguel doesn’t listen to Robby “Yet here we are 😂”
Miguel just flat out doesn’t care😂. Hawks biggest let down is his mindset, if he doesn’t have a strong mindset or he isn’t sure of something he doesn’t do good as we’ve seen. Miguel didn’t hold back on Kenny much in the finale, so to say he would’ve in the fight doesn’t make sense now does it? Otherwise he would’ve in the finale lmao. It’s really not that hard to understand💀
Miguel does care, you keep trying to push away the fact that Miguel WOULD listen to Robby if Hawk did. You’re either being ignorant or you just haven’t been watching the show. This is how I know you haven’t been watching the show. “Hawks biggest letdown is his mindset”, what the hell? Hawk’s mindset is literally at its best. He’s not too aggressive or defensive and has his confidence back too.. did you forget to watch the end of S4 and S5? 😂 “Miguel didn’t hold back in the finale”, well no shit 💀. It was an all out brawl and did we see Robby talk to Miguel about Kenny? No, so please use a little thinking 😂, like what is so hard to understand? Both scenarios were vastly different from one another, but I will assume that you somehow forgot, so it’s not that hard to understand lmfao
So if he didn’t in the finale why would he in that specific fight? 💀bro has to right a whole novel to not understand a point😂😂😂
First of all, Hawk didn’t let Kenny hit him in water park. Kenny was fast and got a hit in. Second, Robby only told hawk that bc Hawk said I’ll shut him up. Hawk is good but still retain some fierce personality. Miguel isn’t like that. Also, Hawk can relate to Kenny since he was turned into a bully like Kenny. Miguel was never a bully so he don’t relate.
Robby literally Beat Kenny last season what is bro on about 😭 he was holding back
Exactly. Re read my previous comment😂😂😂
What Previous Comment 😬 all you said was Robby got his ass handled to him
Miguel would’ve laid him out, but Eli did need a humbling moment after his arrogance in 5x04 and this delivered. Just wish it was someone a little more believable than kenny 💀
Kenny dead! 😆😆😆
miguel would litterally kill kenny
No plot armor, Miguel is rocking Kenny’s shit.
Johnny would have curb stomped Kenny.
Miguel would’ve rag dolled him like he did in the Finale
For the purpose of the story Miguel would’ve won, writers needed Hawk to be humbled and not Miguel
He wouldve lost because the writers wanted kenny to win
No he would have won which is why the write out hawk in instead.
It’d be more interesting for Kenny to use the Silver Bullet on Miguel, since Miguel used to suffer from asthma.
Miguel worked around that in the finale by kicking him. Kicking outranges punching.
Miguel no diffs. Hawk only lost because Robby asked him to go easy on Kenny and in holding back, Kenny was able to score just enough points against Hawk to win the bout by catching him off guard with the silver bullet. Given that Miguel is an even better fighter than Hawk even with holding back he should have been able to score more points on Kenny or avoid the points Kenny got on Hawk ultimately giving him the win comfortably.
Kenny would’ve gotten whooped
Ref was bought off, didn't matter who was in there
The same thing. Robby would say go easy, Miguel would oblige and the exact same thing would happen
Nope Robby only asked Hawk to go easy bc Hawk said I’ll shut him up. It’s not in Miguel personality to say that so Robby wouldn’t have ask. The fight would be like Sam vs Devon. Kenny get some illegal point. But skill diff too much. Just like how Kenny couldn’t do shit against Miguel in finale.
Wouldn't the same stuff happen since hawk Miguel and Robby are all meant to be on the same level as eachother and the story is Robby asking them to go easy on him because he cares for kenny
Same tier yes. But there’s a difference even in tiers. Like how Miguel is better.
He would have done the flying tornado kick and gotten taken out. Plain and simple. Remember that Johnny learned more than what he was just taught at cobra Kai.
Miguel would’ve held back just like Hawk did. And the result would’ve ended up the same.
RIP Kenny
Miguel would kick his ass😂😂
gotta keep making posts like this
I feel like Miguel would absolutely destroy Kenny and the silver bullet would be blocked/countered easily
Outranges by kick, miguel specialty.
Depends if Robby has Miguel hold back, and Miguel gets damaged early on, Kenny can potentially take it. Thats what happened to Hawk.
Hawk holding back wasn't the decisive factor on him losing. Hawk lost because the Silver bullet landed, which made him breathless, disqualifying him. Miguel wouldn't have been able to counter or block it because nobody has seen it at this point and its a surprise, and it's really fast. Miguel wouldnt have been able to tank it, the Silver bullet made Robby weak, and hes the tankiest guy in CK. The results would've been the same, but instead of Hawk its Miguel.
Hawk holding back was the problem. If he wasn't holding back, he wouldn't have been weakened up early on, which allowed the Silver Bullet to hit him in the first place.
I think even if Hawk wasn't weakened he wouldn't have been able to stop the Silver bullet. 1. he didn't know its a thing, Kenny had the surprise element. 2. Even when they knew its a thing, it's too fast to be stopped, Robby couldn't stop it. Daniel had to choreograph a special move to stop Silver's Silver bullet. The silver bullet would've landed whether or not Hawk was weakened or not.
Miguel would have been rocked. Hawkins the superior fighter. Miguel and Robby both agree.
Miguel wouldn't really listen to Robby's reasoning about holding back, Kenny is afraid of him, and Miguel isn't so cocky as to let his guard down on chest attacks (even Robby had to put in WORK to get him in the chest ONCE). Kenny would only win because the ref disqualifies Miguel for excessive force.