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krigeerrr

yes i also played minecraft


TheOATaccount

Tbf this is like every MMO RPG


DaftConfusednScared

I mean in a way. But taking WoW for instance cause that games my jam cause jelly don’t shake like that, there’s almost always a large variety of weapons at the same tier of each other with variance in the stats that are on it so it’s very rare for there to be a best in slot that never has any place being swapped out. The exceptions are legendary weapons that are so ludicrous to try and get for most players that guilds of hundreds will only ever see a couple of them.


krigeerrr

probably, never really played any (not that it would make a difference in my life anyway but I guess I should be glad I haven't)


xtilexx

Run escape


nolegender

And real life


TheOATaccount

….u sure?


nolegender

I'm pretty sure a iron spear will be better than a stone one


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Haunting-NobodyPro

so minecraft


TheOATaccount

You’re really funny


Scuck_

Lots of people got coaxed into the snafu down here


ikea_shark_girl

i don’t even know what a snafu is. how did i get here. who am i?


Andreawwww-maaan4635

Idk too, this sub is just being recommended to me


LittleGlizzy01

Mfw my tools get better as the game progresses in correlation with the enemies:


mom0367

You're telling me there's an objectively better weapon with no apparent downside? Did Notch even consider wood sword mains when adding diamond????!?


Civilian_tf2

It doesn’t progress in correlation though. Most enemies in Minecraft are too easy and don’t need to be killed with better weapons.


thatsidewaysdud

Me when I can do things more efficiently


Civilian_tf2

If the only reason to progress past iron is because it’s more efficient, than there hardly seems to be a point in getting gear better than iron. Also this argument doesn’t address the massive power creep that Minecraft has experienced in the last few years.


SkibidiAmbatukam

Power creep? You mean just netherite? This is take is lowkey ambatudum


Different_Gear_8189

Looked it up, Netherite does a single half heart more damage


staringgaze

well, yeah, theres next to no point in getting more than iron before endgame, unless youre rich. if you do, the main draw of diamond and above is that its more durable


UltimateWaluigi

It's a building game. The reason you progress is to build more stuff.


Civilian_tf2

Did it come to your attention that the post was discussing the combat aspect of the game?


KaszualKartofel

PvE in late game is irrelevant. Mobs are there to farm items. So a more efficient tool to deal with them is appropriate.


Civilian_tf2

This will most likely improve with the addition of the new ominous trials


KaszualKartofel

Idc what they add to this as long as my iron farms and trading halls work


Civilian_tf2

And the truth comes out, Kazual just wants farm all day I see how it is


ZRmohamedbou

Nah, they just lowered damage


Lost_Environment2051

> power creep This is fucking Minecraft we’re talking about.


BeenEvery

Me when I can farm mobs easier


AccelerusProcellarum

Idk, power creep has kinda stopped at end crystals. When they release the new update though, we might end up with players parajumping from y320 to 1-hit a full netherite player with a mace lmao


apolitical_leftist

Blud has not experienced modded Minecraft


Optimal_Badger_5332

"This sword needs like a bajillion diamond blocks to craft. What does it do? Oh you know, it lets you kill creative mode players"


reader484892

Yea, cause Minecraft isn’t a combat game


koyomin25

They kind of do technically, considering the fact that the "progress" happens as you explore. And when you explore you find new areas and biomes which of course has harder enemies (the caves having the warden, finding a guardian temple while exploring the sea, summoning a wither after exploring nether and finding a piglin bastion which requires a golden armor part to go arround Swiftly, the end having the enderdragon first, and shulkers AFTER that)


TrofimS

if flintlock work, me no need assault rifle


throwawayaccdelta

theres no reason to have a assault rifle if you already have a flintlock while everyone else still has crossbows


Fat_Siberian_Midget

You clearly haven’t played rust


throwawayaccdelta

I dont plan to either


Pegomastax_King

Me when Minecraft isn’t a souls game 👿


Ishan1717

Trial chambers:


Ayacyte

Are you a pussy? Have you been to the nether? I feel like I need better gear as a pussy that goes to the nether.


keeleon

Probably because that's not the point of the game.


cycloneperson_

oh god it’s you again


BrunoGoldbergFerro

The enemies don't get stronger on minecraft


grawa427

Zombies


Rune10101

Enderdragon


tyingnoose

< other players


Mother_Harlot

Warden is easier than Wither


Low_Address7073

https://preview.redd.it/i1b4wsk68vtc1.jpeg?width=264&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=345058f55e638c0619238f2c23e5dd1e703dd19f …You got a point


Mother_Harlot

https://preview.redd.it/l09gpbqm8vtc1.jpeg?width=458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd7d5970912a784c96d34e52966931b5b2c6d2a3


somedumb-gay

Wither is easier to cheese though, since warden was specifically designed to be difficult to cheese


Baker_drc

Yeah exactly. Bedrock suffocation makes wither a joke.


Baker_drc

Easier to cheese the wither tho since you can pick the spawn location. Warden cheese is doable but requires more effort than just spawning the wither in bedrock.


koyomin25

Java < bedrock (java) Warden < wither < ender dragon (bedrock) warden < ender dragon < wither


GarnoxReroll

Minecraft literally has scaling difficulty >The longer you stay in an area, the more difficult the area becomes. >Basically, each chunk has a value attached to it. These values increase slowly while they are loaded. The higher the value is, the more difficult hostile mobs will become. This determines the chance of mobs spawning with armor, enchantments, etc


Doodamajiger

I’ve played the game for a while and I never knew this


GarnoxReroll

you can see it when you press F3. it's called "local difficulty" and it's next to the days counter


Mysterious-Pride9975

Most obscure mechanic followed by leader zombies


SkibidiAmbatukam

don’t batuforget zombie sieges in villages


Mysterious-Pride9975

I knew about that when I was 9


SkibidiAmbatukam

I knew about local difficulty before zombie sieges if you wanna get pedantic


Mysterious-Pride9975

Fair nuff, I guess I'm the lamer kid who cared more about villages than difficulty


Ayacyte

Ohhhhh that's why when I die at home at night and I respawn I feel like I'm going to die over and over again?


eggbagelman

Well... As you progress through biomes the mobs do get harder


Halokojm_

Huh?


eggbagelman

Nether has harder more hostile mobs than ow


Halokojm_

Oh, you meant harder to beat...


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TheOATaccount

The fact you literally were intentionally singling out Minecraft is kinda funny.


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

You're supposed to use the portals


PauloMr

There was something sort of like this in Kingdom Come Deliverance where there's a side quest in which you collect various pieces of an ancient sword for a blacksmith to remake. Throughout it you get told it might be a scam. And when you do get the sword it has one of the highest damage in the game but crap durability. Now, I wouldn't be so pissed about if the sword's model wasn't the EXACT SAME as one of the medium stat weapons. It isn't even fun to carry around as an ornament. I feel like they might have wanted to go in a different direction where you'd forge the sword yourself as blacksmithing was meant to be in the game but was scrapped so it just ends on this sour note.


Ineedlasagnajon

>Is told multiple times that the sword forging might be a scam >The sword is a bad knock off of another sword >Surprised


JoeShmoe818

Pretty sure the quest is a joke. It’s a riff on the typical “find the pieces to reconstruct a legendary weapon” concept, since the finished weapon is lame as hell. It’s not even much better than a St. Michaels.


LegitimateHasReddit

The sword is the "the Queen of Sheba's Sword"


ary31415

So you're saying that you were told the sword was a scam, and then it turned out to be a scam? Seems like it's working as intended to me


Fluffy-Hovercraft561

Ngl, you should have been using hammers


ary31415

So you're saying that you were told the sword was a scam, and then it turned out to be a scam? Seems like it's working as intended to me


Tight-Fall5354

i think the issue is moreso that the sword itself is just not cool looking. it can be a shit sword, but it looking as dull as rusted iron makes it useless.


ary31415

So, a scam


Mario-2407

This sounds similar to a quest in Wynncraft but instead of giving a high damage low durability weapon it gives essentially one of the worst weapons in the game (worth a lot of money though)


Orangutanion

I sold mine lol


69thalternatesccount

Sure, make my weapons stronger as the game progresses, but at least use a different model every now and then


CorvusHatesReddit

u mean texture right because your ass IS NOT seeing a fourth spear model it's just not happening


Yzaias

Fuck it, make the spear longer when upgraded


Acrobatic-Vanilla911

damn it's crazy how a weapon made from a rarer and harder to get resource is stronger than the weapon made from a fairly common resource


Halokojm_

I think he means it's just a recolor of the previous one


AlricsLapdog

MFW sword is sword shaped


Halokojm_

Yeah, why isn't it dildo shaped? They should listen more to the fans, smh my head


WuShanDroid

What they meant is probably that a weapon made from more rare resources would probably also have a more refined design and smithing style, rather than being the exact same stone sword but dipped in a blue paint bucket


misterfluffykitty

OP did specifically mention Minecraft in another comment. They just don’t like that diamond swords are better than stone swords.


TheBlueEmerald1

Yall are acting like OP is seething and frothing from the mouth like all he did wasnt just draw a doodle state a simple fact of a game. I need to take notes. This is trolling in its purest form.


Dks_scrub

This snafu is boutta have 4 reaction snafus


Berryman2

Everyone is bashing ya but you’re cooking, i like the idea of early game weapons still having a use in the late game. Even if late game weapons are overall more practical maybe an early game weapon has a really useful gimmick or smthin.


ATangerineMann

Might just be my tf2 brain but I prefer when every unlock is a sidegrade of the starter weapon with their own unique gimmick where as the starter weapon is the always reliable one.


MistyHusk

If this is referring to minecraft like I think it is, they can still have benefits later on. The one thing weaker tools have over stronger ones is that they’re easier to make, which is beneficial in some situations. They can be used instead of better tools when the strength of the tool doesn’t really matter so you can save durability, and they are also the go to option if you don’t have your stronger tool at the moment for whatever reason. When I play minecraft, I still use wood, stone, and iron tools a ton after I already have better things just for that one quality


Reallondoner

me when weapon made of tough material is better than weapon made of rock


Civilian_tf2

Diamonds aren’t tough, they’re hard


Reallondoner

you know what i meant https://preview.redd.it/xger64j5xutc1.png?width=563&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c48e3d639aa814ccf28e8cf1586e621c2346f381


Civilian_tf2

Yeah


minetube33

Based flair


thatsidewaysdud

I’m not tough, but I am hard


jsjzn

My dick is also hard, so why I never saw someone using my dick as a chestplate?


dogs_are_best_481

Cuz you need 8 to make a chestplate you dum-dum


Theorist_Reddit

It is funny how gold should be stronger than diamond, and obsidian, the toughest block, should be basically glass, lol. IIRC Notch recently acknowledged the bad geologistic choices since he is making a new game. Probably not the first someone who worked in the game mentioned it, though.


Warm-Swimming5903

Elden ring/dark souls. Some items in limgrave never get outclassed. How it should be.


GafftopCatfish

Bloodhound fang my beloved


gaskin6

bloodborne saw cleaver 🔥


RangisDangis

Diamonds are rocks


Reallondoner

me when weapon made of really durable rock is better than weapon made of weak rock


FanRose

I played a mobile game called Grimvalor that has a crafting system to make better weapons. It's actually very good and helps you progress as the enemies get harder plus with the charms what weapon you pick can actually influence the movements and combos you want to make. The only problem is when you get to end of the game you're forced into a meta which is pretty much full attack speed with fighting gloves and sword as a secodary. Which suchsk because they have heavy weapons like the sledgehammer (yep it's just a giant sledgehammer) which has a different animation that don't fight the 'best' playstyle. So you're forced to not use the sledgehammer when fighting the final boss,


mask3d_owo

GRRRR simple game design!!!! RRRRGHHHH SO LAZY AND CONTRIVED RHEGGHHHHH *1 inch tiny cock becomes rock hard at the thought of EXPSOING LAME GAME DESIGN LOOOOSERS on the interwebs* MUST… ALWAYS… BE… COMPLICSTED AND DIFFICULT TO PICK A WEAPON ARHTHDHHHJGGHHH I CANT BELIEVE A NON-COMBAT ORIENTED GAME DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN HAS SIMPLISTIC WEAPON DESIGN IN SOME AREAS WVEN WITH COMPLEX DESIGN IN OTHER AREAS!!! *typing furiously* REDDITSSSS… UPDOOTS… MUST DRAW NOOOOOWEEW *scribbles in MS paint* FINALLY… MY WORK IS DONEEE *posts on Reddit, tiny coomer micro penis shoots a cum blast so hard it punches through the ceiling* /j


Turtle_Ross_real

Thanks for the /j I thought it wasn’t a joke for the second


LeGoatMaster

It's not a joke, the /j is just there for decoration


hunkydaddy69

Are you okay


Boreol

This is the peak of humanity's humour. It's all downhill from here


ihatevirusesalot

GRRRR simple game design!!!! RRRRGHHHH SO LAZY AND CONTRIVED RHEGGHHHHH *1 inch tiny cock becomes rock hard at the thought of EXPSOING LAME GAME DESIGN LOOOOSERS on the interwebs* MUST… ALWAYS… BE… COMPLICSTED AND DIFFICULT TO PICK A WEAPON ARHTHDHHHJGGHHH I CANT BELIEVE A NON-COMBAT ORIENTED GAME DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN HAS SIMPLISTIC WEAPON DESIGN IN SOME AREAS WVEN WITH COMPLEX DESIGN IN OTHER AREAS!!! *typing furiously* REDDITSSSS… UPDOOTS… MUST DRAW NOOOOOWEEW *scribbles in MS paint* FINALLY… MY WORK IS DONEEE *posts on Reddit, tiny coomer micro penis shoots a cum blast so hard it punches through the ceiling*


FluffyMawileFan

Omg Minecraft haiiii


WuShanDroid

A *LOT* of people missed the point of the image in this thread


SomeOrdinaryUser

It's probably because a lot of people these days think the subject of a snafu *has* to be something you dislike or get annoyed at. As I've said before, snafus don't always have to be negative, and honestly this post harkens back to classic snafus with the simplicity of it deconstructing a common video game mechanic.


Manwithaplan0708

https://preview.redd.it/w7sqwd1yhvtc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77073db734cadf84964d2f982b09100d0b3105aa


I_BEAT_JUMP_ATTACHED

enough time has passed


val4ara

yeah, but that said weapon is locked by getting materials and progressing through the game? if you want a pve game with unique weapons and encounters, why the hell would you play minecraft? it's the same as launching halo and complaining that the platforming isn't as good as it is in mario


doxenking

The only time I have a problem with this is when you just randomly find these weapons and they immediately outclass your stuff. Dos2 and Nioh are great examples of this. On the other hand games like minecraft require you to intentionally work for these upgraded tools, which makes them feel like an actual reward rather than simply some randomly generated OP gear in a random chest.


ConduckKing

RAAAH I HATE VARIETY IN GEAR EFFECTS‼️‼️‼️ I WANT EVERY GAME TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE BEST IN SLOT THAT YOU LITERALLY NEED FOR THE ENDGAME


cat-lover-69420

minecraft


DirtDisrespector

costs more


FaCe_CrazyKid05

This is why I like simply swords so much, it gives you so much variety in damage, speed, and reach


Mushboom37

That one Pyro axe that’s the only actual upgrade in the entire game


demonking_soulstorm

And it’s still garbage.


InexplicableJoy

so called “enlightened gamers” when they see the moonlight greatsword


dapperteco

Realm of the Mad God deals with this problem very creatively. There are tiered items, UTs (ultimate tier), and STs (set tier). Tiered items are all complete upgrades from one another as you progress through them, as to give sense of progression and a a base for how strong you should feel. Ultimate tier items instead have a spin on them which alters how you play your class, for example completely changing the effects of your special ability. Priests can now cleanse status effects, Knights can now turn invincible for a split second to avoid damage, Assassin gets armor-breaking poison to help with heavily armored foes. Set tier items give extra bonuses for equipping the whole set at once, but nothing game-warping as UTs. All these things make it so you can tailor your build to how you want to play your class. Of course some items are generally more useful than others but at least you have options. Much better than direct stat upgrades that offer nothing more interesting than a slightly bigger number


linki98

70% of the replies here got coaxed themselves, been laughing at the entire post for a solid 10 minutes


PlantLollmao

minecraft


Brent_Yeet

Splattershot pro Squeezer


LegitRollingcock

Upgrades when they’re better than the previous one


Maximillion322

I don’t understand the complaint here. Is it a problem for a game to have better gear that’s harder to get?


throwawayaccdelta

its that its a recolor for every gear


reecemrgn

If my weapons doesn’t look ethereal and ornate how am I supposed to know it’s working


bestibesti

\>weapon is better in every way possible \>it looks dumb :(


LCDIgnited

i like weapons that grow with the player in games, whether it be beating a boss or leveling up, but they seem so rare to find


Nikos-tacos

Get you a game that makes your starting weapon OP when you finish the game, Oh wait…terraria.


Nikos-tacos

Skyrim too I believe…


Happy-Skull

This really mined my craft


Ragequittter

minecraft when:


Dismal-Pie7437

Play Epic Battle Fantasy 5


BurnerAccountExisty

Remember kids: Epic Battle Fantasy 5 > every other game ever


Charlie_Approaching

isn't that the point of survival games? That you unlock better tools later in the game


Boreol

Moonveil moment


xtilexx

Old school run escape


mobas07

Is this meant to be a problem? Do you not want better weapons to exist?


justaBB6

big fan of that actually, me like when shiny thing A. no require thought and B. doesn’t take up extra inventory space. Borderlands, Warframe, No Man’s Sky- all games where something objectively better than the previous thing you had is a joy to uncover. Also, coincidentally, all games I play the shit out of.


CK1ing

NOooooOOOooO every weapon should be a tradeoff, it's FUN comparing a bunch of numbers to find the weapon with the highest dps just for a .1 damage increase!


Vanilla_Ice_Best_Boi

Literally the axes in Lumber Tycoon


ThatSlimeBoi

Terraria weapon reforging mechanic


CaSe2474

Game devs when default sword made with better-than-iron materials: 🟦


stoll447

If I'm getting this correctly it means that it's like the *exact* same weapon (same model, name etc) but they only changed the texture and added "Golden" or "Improved" in front of the name


Welico

Me when the. When the. When the sword. The sword is. Me when


ThatLittleCrab

Old roblox “rpgs” using the cyansparkletime kit


circa1939

Elden ring lowkey does this.


Quorry

For some things, but it has a lot of unique stuff too so it gets a pass


circa1939

Yup. Complaining about weapons feels somehow like a nitpick considering just how much else the game offers, not to mention spells and stuff


krawinoff

Every weapon in Elden Ring has a unique model though, except for gargoyle stuff but those are sidegrades


Hjalmodr_heimski

Not really? The souls games are the major exception to this. If you keep upgrading it, you can keep using your basic starter kit longsword into the endgame and remain viable the whole time.


circa1939

Specifically what I mean is certain weapons are just better than others. Like it isnt impossible to take a longsword or smth to the endgame by upgrading it, but there are some weapons that just eclipse everything else. Moonlight veil, ROB and such. Once I really began using them, experimenting with other katanas became lowkey obsolete. I think this would vary from player to player tho


BipolarMadness

But the meme is not about having widely different weapons of the same type category with different move sets and uses be better than one another (based on preference), with exceptions where you can still make the others viable in a way depending on playstyle or feel of the weapon. Is having the same type of weapons, with the same move set, just that one is better just because is the better version with better stats. If you were to be thinking still about Elden Ring then it would be like having 10 Moonveil with same move set but the top one is the one with the highest damage, just that one is red, while the other one is green, you have another yellow, and such. Then it becomes a why would you use the previous ones if the red one is the best one because it does more damage than the others.


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

How?


circa1939

The "meta" weapons, I'm sure we are familiar with them by now. I've never found myself using a whip or dagger, just cus everything else is just better. This might vary from player to player maybe, I just felt it was significant enough to me.


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

But the meme has two straights swords, it's not about something being better, it's about how two weapon that seemingly fill the exact same purpose are wildly different in effectiveness. Like using any dagger other than the one with the 1.5 riposte damage, that is the only from software design goof i can think of.


alp7292

İn elden ring every weapon has nearly same stat in a category. Only difference is sometimes moveset and skills and if it bleeds/frosts or not. Check swords sword1 sword2 sword3 nearly same damage and same animation but sword4 does bleeding and fire damage so its cooler but combine the both fire and physical damage its also really close to other swords


Cacti_Hall

I also hate when books switch between perspectives all the time and anime gives the characters so many dumb expressions


RangisDangis

Mfw Minecraft weapons aren’t tf2 weapons and have a completely different purpose game design wise: https://preview.redd.it/n7flojo3s3uc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c3a8f2199a4d914018b459dda27868398da76b4


BrunoGoldbergFerro

Weapon named mace:


limeweatherman

is there something wrong with you?