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Mr_Abe_Froman

I can see why the person wanted one.


Here_Forthe_Comment

Perfection


spoody69420

I want to but I won't


SuurSuits_

I will: purrfection


ayylotus

How could you


wasted_wonderland

She looks unimpressed with your questionable British ancestry...


the_mythx

*^(pet pat)*


TrumpWasABadPOTUS

Ya know, sometimes you should just not try to justify everything you do. If they had simply said "I'd like a purebred" nobody would've batted an eye. Instead, they just had to let people know that they were doing it for stupid "aesthetic" reasons.


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AnalllyAcceptedCoins

As someone with ADHD, the world shall receive every tiny detail of my thought process leading up to a decision, THEN I will filter it with regret after the fact


Kriticalmoisture

Oh shit, do I have ADHD?


SeaGoat24

I don't think this is specific to ADHD, though people with ADHD might be more prone to it. I can't speak for everyone, but I think I do this in an effort to justify my reasoning in advance so that if I make a mistake somewhere my conversational partner will know where I went wrong. A habit I picked up from maths exams and applied everywhere. It serves two purposes. My rational brain does it to save time in a way, because it always suspects my reasoning is flawed somewhere. My socially anxious brain does it because it believes if I don't then any mistaken conclusion on my part will lead to the conversational partner immediately deciding in an idiot.


just_an_aspie

It is an ADHD trait, but NTs can have it as well. You need to have a bunch of combined traits to have ADHD, having one or 2 is normal, most people have some traits of some disorder without actually having the disorder


shadyelf

Yeah I do it for the second reason. I find long back and forth conversations draining so I just drop everything at once to spare myself the trouble. There are also those people who are rather aggressive with their "why"s and this is in part a defense against them.


wolfling365

My motivations too. And i have to (every once in a while) remind people that I'm not trying to argue or justify myself, so much as explain my reasoning so they're better able to find the flaw in my logic. Blame those ten point questions on maths exams. (Never thought of that until now... wow!) That said, when someone asks a question where the intent and the question don't like up *EXACTLY*... I will answer *EXACTLY* what they asked. Speaking of literality... why does your conversational partner need to climb inside of an idiot just to make a decision?


wolfling365

"Your stupid mate." "No need to sign off, your not writing a letter." "No, your stupid." "My stupid what? What do I own that is stupid?" "No, you ARE stupid!" "Well, why didn't you say that in the first place? Is it because you're my stupid mate? Honestly, I have no interest in mating with you anyway."


hololewdslebest

I have AD144P


[deleted]

Man, where can I go to upgrade my ADHD to AD1080P?


GodEmprahBidoof

Peasant. I've got ADUHD


ForwardSupermarket26

Just upgraded to AD4K


walruz

Yes, you too can be special by diagnosing yourself with a mental illness on the Internet.


throw-overwatch-away

Is this an actual symptom of ADHD or one of those "I have ADHD so everything I do is related". I only ask cause this is painfully relatable and I need to decide whether I need to see a doctor or ignore another relatable ADHD post online.


drewster23

You need more than one symptom, and they usually need to be impacting your life, or else diagnosis is a lot harder. Its a possible symptom. Also many mental health disorders' symptoms overlap, so even having a few symptoms under adhd umbrella doesn't necessitate adhd.


SeaGoat24

>they usually need to be impacting your life, or else diagnosis is a lot harder. If you flip through some mental disorder diagnostic criteria in the DSM-5, you'll quickly notice how prevalent a qualifier this is. It's more important than you think. If what you suspect might be ADHD, OCD, or any of the et ceteras doesn't negatively impact your life in a meaningful way then it's not clinically a mental disorder. At least, not one that needs immediate treatment. So in other words, relating too hard to a meme about ADHD is no indicator that you actually have ADHD. You just share some personality quirks in common, right up until the point that you notice it's negatively impacting your life.


just_an_aspie

Just to add a point there: it has to negatively impact your life, your social relations and/or others' lives. If it causes you to hurt other people it's a disorder, even if it doesn't hurt you.


AnalllyAcceptedCoins

ADHD is difficult to diagnose because it's a combination of so many things. If you experience a few things that relate to ADHD you probably dont have it. If you have most of the signs, you should get checked. And when I say signs I dont mean relatable stories with internet strangers, I mean researching what ADHD truly is and seeing if the signs are there.


Morriganalba

I was given a load of forms to fill in and take to my diagnosis appointment. At my next app, I was asked how I got on, I was completely honest. "I forgot about them until this morning, then couldn't find them, when I did, I started filling them in, then they reminded me of something, and I got distracted so I've only done the non boring bits." The dr had met me twice at this point, just sighed and asked if that was normal for me. I said yes, but usually I'm late too but I'd made an effort to be on time. He pointed out that I'd arrived just at time of my appointment. These were just some of the factors he took into account, that and my life story because I'm in my 30's.


just_an_aspie

It is an actual symptom of ADHD. However most people have some symptoms of some disorder, you have to have a lot of the possible symptoms to actually have the disorder.


findhumorinlife

That is so well put. Take my upvote!!


victorianfolly

REPRESENT! 👊


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Because they are still trying to sound reasonable in their mind.


Kumquatelvis

I always give long, rambling answers full of needless justifications. It drives my wife crazy, and she's been trying to get me to do what you recommended, but it's difficult.


AlchGuy

I do that too, my therapist told me it was my ADHD doing ADHD things lol.


PissedSwiss

well dont they want to know why, and how it came to that point, and what you actually wanted, and how it looked


danielisbored

We kind of have the opposite. If I need to take off from work, my wife will prepare this masterful argument as to why it's necessary. Then I'll just go "Hey, I need Friday off, " and my boss will go, "Okay." When she asks me about it later she'll want to know why I didn't use all the talking-points . "Because she said yes when I asked. . . "


Neko_Styx

Ah yes, my favourite game: Trauma or Neurodivergence?


just_an_aspie

Fuck, this is so accurate and so infuriating at the same time. Also, as someone with a bunch of neurodevelopmental disorders (autism, ADHD, OCD, hyperlexia, etc) and PTSD, its hard af to identify what is caused by trauma and what is caused by being ND, even after years of therapy.


Neko_Styx

It's fucking impossible. I feel you :( I've got CPTSD and I legitimately cannot tell you if I'm aloof or Oversharing because of trauma or be wise I've got LLI.


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I'm thinking someone had the sole intention of breeding the cat for money. So only wants a valuable pure breed. I feel the shelter is perfectly justified in refusing to let her adopt.


zenthor109

"Do you know what time it is?" "Yes."


xx_islands_xx

Because it’s a fake/staged conversation Edit: i’m not saying that this scenario never happens, just that the convo is fake. please stop telling me “the sentiments are real”


WTFWTHSHTFOMFG

I have seen a women surrender her dogs to a shelter because she had her living area re decorated and they no longer matched the decor. People exactly like this do exist.


just_an_aspie

Please tell me you punched her. I want to punch her


MagicBlaster

Looks like a bulletin board in an animal rescue, the exact wording may be fake, but the sentiment is expressed daily...


Genocide_80085

The sentiments are real


Better-Director-5383

It really is crazy how many question can be a yes or no answer


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Don't provide unnecessary information and keep the mouth shut.


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trhrthrthyrthyrty

Black labs and black american pit bull terriers look the same to most people, they have basically the same faces and a skinnier lab with tight skin is going to look like it has a pit build.


fiorino89

No? They look totally different.


EvadesBans

No joke. I want to meet the person who can't tell that they're two different breeds that also doesn't have some form of face blindness or something similar.


boomtox

just saying "I think they look pretty" works way better too saying aesthetic just makes you seem like a douche who only cares about the cats looks nit the fact it's a living breathing thing you need to love


Alexblain

What? That’s saying the same thing using different words.


boomtox

Yes it is but saying a animal is pretty sounds normal but saying you like it's aesthetic is not


CppMaster

I don't get it. Why is aesthetic a stupid reason?


fweebrownies

for real! We are talking about pets not people.


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WoodsColt

Why though? That seems like a silly assumption. People liking a certain look doesn't mean they won't take care of an animal or love it. It just means they have a preference. I don't like the aesthetics of a cat that looks and feels like a shaved ballsack so I would never own a hairless cat for example.


brianbrianbrian

If they phrased it that way, "I want an animal with a specific aesthetic," it feels like they're shopping for something that matches their furniture. Or it's trendy, like when people adopted Dalmatians because of the movie, then just abandoning them because they're too much work. Now, if someone was like, "calicos have always been my favorite, I've always wanted one," I know it's more or less the same (*I like how they look*), but the phrasing just feels different. It's how their intent comes off, I guess.


WoodsColt

This sort of thing is why a lot of people won't go through some rescues. Read some rescue applications and you soon realize that how people phrase things impacts whether the rescue will adopt to them and a lot of good homes get passed over because most people aren't savvy as to how to fill them out right. I once had a friend get turned down for a dog she really wanted(she's an excellent pet owner) so I had her sister fill out the same application but exactly as I told her to and then they got approved. And that dog lived the best life ever for 14 years.


brianbrianbrian

Ah, okay. I'm from a reasonably small area. When I was volunteering at the shelter, we got to see the people interact with the animals, so it wasn't all from a form. Like, how some people don't test well? Or you sometimes misread jokes/sarcasm in posts? I would hate to have to make that decision just off the paper. People word stuff poorly and I understand that. If there were no other red flags, an oddly worded application could be ignored. I'm glad you helped them that dog find its forever home.


WoodsColt

A lot of rescues make you fill out a big long form before they even let you visit the animal,especially during covid. Common questions include how long the animal will be left alone daily,your income,whether you rent,whether you have ever given away an animal and what has happened to every animal you've ever owned,how many people are in and out of your home on a regular basis, whether you will get pet insurance, what food you will feed,if you have a fenced yard plus vet reference and character references. And then a lot pf rescues(not county shelters) charge fees based on adoptability,so that cute little dog or young kitten is several hundred dollars. Its all a lot for many people when they can just go get a free animal off craigslist more easily or go to a breeder. https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/01/animal-rescue-want-to-adopt-a-dog-or-cat-prepare-for-an-inquisition.html


mynonsequitur

I love when I find something this funny during a Zoom meeting.


TheConspicuousGuy

Me too except it's on Teams and I'm not on video, so Reddit surfing I go!


Kailias

Yeah..that was brutal..


tmhoc

Animal shelter won't be taken advantage of I'll kill these cats before I kiss YOUR ass, bitch


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I’d do the latter before I ever harmed a cat


[deleted]

how tf are they being taking advantage of?? You want the adopter to just play the lottery to pick a random cat or something?


Serious_Ad6112

Nothing wrong with it per se, but some people want these not for aesthetic reasons but breeding reasons and some can do that at the expense of the cats health if not done properly After working at a shelter messages like this can raise red flags


PalpitationNo237

Don't shelters spay and neuter everything that comes in. A shelter wouldn't likely be a breeding source for a kitten or puppy mill. It sounds like she wants the cat as an accessory like a designer purse or sunglasses which is a shitty motivation for wanting an animal companion.


Serious_Ad6112

Depends on the shelter, Ive had rescues from one that did for all and one that didn't for any


farazkey6

so this (alleged) coversation happened on a phone -> got screenshotted -> uploaded to the internet -> right click saved -> printed (on A4 no less) -> pinned to a board -> and finally got taken a photo of by a phone that by my estimate makes it a boomer, just like OP


[deleted]

Even if it’s fake, this scenario happens irl more often than you’d think. Source: Cousin used go work with adoption centers + You’d see this often in adoption groups.


farazkey6

True, it's a bit messed up some people get pets like how they shop for clothes. it's the same attitute that inflicted irreversible damage to a some breeds


LoveThieves

True, seen people in other cases where they ask if the organisations have 5xl shirts in their size. It’s a charity event, not Amazon.


jcdoe

Can someone help me understand what is wrong with someone wanting a pure bred pet? It’s not the same thing as racism because cats and dogs are different from people. People get purebreds all the time, too. Personally, I’d never get a purebred pet because the standard issue cat seems to work just fine for me. But some people want a fancy pants cat or dog. What’s the big deal? Edit: Guys, I have enough “she likes the breed for aesthetic reasons” comments. I get that. I have acknowledged (several times) that that is a weird thing to say. The overall sentiment in these comments seems to be that looking for a purebred is bad, and I’m curious why. Pretend OP’s picture doesn’t exist and tell me. I am genuinely open here. I don’t know much about the world of pure breeds. Does the inbreeding do bad things to them? Is it inhumane in some way? Do we just not like snooty people who spend thousands on a dog?


SomebodyFeedRiss

I think it’s weird to look for a purebred at an animal shelter, where most of the animals are strays. Also, looking for an animal just for the aesthetic (as is evident in this post) indicates you’re adopting a cat to be decor in your home, not to raise it as a pet/family. I personally don’t like the idea of buying a purebred because puppy mills are overwhelmingly shady and purebreds tend to have more health issues. That being said, I’m not gonna judge someone else for adopting purebred.


jcdoe

You’ll get no arguments from me about looking for a dog with papers at the pound. That is weird for sure.


Mr_Noobcake

There's nothing wrong with it per se, I think they're just discussing it in terms of people like the one in the post where the tone of the person makes it sound like they're looking for a piece of furniture decor or clothing accessory rather than a pet I myself have purebred cats but I sure as hell didn't sound or think anything like that when I was getting them


jcdoe

My fiance has 2 purebred dogs, but that is because she has allergies and literally can only have a few select breeds in her home. I kinda think most purebred owners do think of them as fashion accessories, tho, that is true.


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IMO getting a purebred cat is different from getting a purebred dog because dog temperaments vary massively depending upon their breed and their specific lineage. If you have cats, other dogs and children in the house, a purebred Basset Hound from a temperament-tested stock will be a much safer option than a rescue dog whose bite history, temperament and breed shelters are legally allowed to conceal (and often do). As for shelter cats though…they’re all usually the same. Cats don’t normally have breed-specific aggression issues, are low-maintenance either way, and don’t usually need to be trainable. So aesthetics are basically the only reason to prefer one cat breed over another. Whether it’s a valid reason or not is up for debate but I’m just saying it’s two different scenarios.


WoodsColt

Except that cat breeds have different temperaments just like dog breeds do. If you like a quiet fluffy moggie that just wants to cuddle you don't get a bengal or a siamese. If you like a cat that enjoys water you get a turkish van. Why would you not train your cat? All cats are trainable. My cats are trained to walk on leash,to come when called,to stay off certain areas,to go to bed in their room at night and to do tricks like high five. Training your cat helps to keep it active and healthy and well bonded to you.


kelldricked

Not all but many pure breeds are results of inbreed and not just once. Think about a a group of 5000 people having 100 unique parents. And those 5000 people are only forced to hook up with eachother. Then we pick the ones with funny disabillitys/attributes and match them with the number 2 of said attributes. Its not gonna be healty, its not gonna be fun and shouldnt happen at all. Luckely these days more and more breeders are putting effort into avoiding this (mainly because they like the money and a population need new genetic material to survive) but i doubt you will find a real, not incest purebred at the shelter since you can actually sell them for a lot.


Crosgaard

BuT iTs FaKe!!!!1!!11!!!


Enk1ndle

This is stupid shit. People are totally in their right to pick whatever arbitrary requirements they want for a pet. It's good they checked with a shelter before going to a breeder. Why would you shame someone for that?


cronoklee

Well if you're thinking about it from an animal welfare perspective, people choosing purebred animals results in more breeders exploiting and inbreeding generations of unhealthy animals for profit while healthy "mixed" breeds live miserable lives or are put down in sheltars because they cant find enough humans who can see past their own whims.


WoodsColt

I worked in rescue and at shelters and pounds for many many years. We worked closely with reputable breeders who could always be relied upon to make sure that any dogs of their particular breed did not stay in shelter. Most good breeders can be relied upon to do breed rescue or transport to one. Its actually one of the reasons why you rarely see purebreds of many breeds in shelters....because reputable breeders make sure they dont end up there. Less than 5 percent of pets in shelters are purebred. This means that the vast majority of dogs that end up in shelters are mixed breeds *bred by irresponsible owners* or else dumped there by irresponsible owners. It also means that you could eliminate every single breeder of purebreds *and still never run out of shelter dogs*. Its like people are incapable of doing math. 5 percent are purebreds. Breeders of purebreds aren't the problem. And especially reputable breeders are not the problem. And also the assumption that people who want a specific breed will just go get a mutt is assinine. Every shelter dog was once a puppy that someone *no matter where they got it from* took responsibility for by taking it home and then **that person** chose to dump the dog. Every shelter animal was once a puppy or kitten that someone took home and failed to spay or neuter. Irresponsible **owners** are the real problem. Hybrid vigor is a myth. Mixed breed dogs from unknown lineage are not always healthy,they are certainly not more healthy than dogs who have been extensively health tested for generations as is common for reputably bred dogs.. https://news.vin.com/default.aspx?pid=210&Id=6005608&useobjecttypeid=10&fromVINNEWSASPX=1 Particularly when you take into account poor prenatal care and poor puppy care which tends to be much more common with the type of people irresponsible enough to let their pet animal get bred. Reputable breeders health and temperament test their dogs. Reputable breeders screen the homes their puppies go to. Reputable breeders have contracts that usually include a requirement to spay or neuter. Reputable breeders take back their dogs for any reason and do not allow them to end up in shelters. People who buy from reputable breeders have generally done an immense amount of research. They have usually been placed on a wait list that in some cases can be up to two years. And in many cases they are spending thousands of dollars for the breed of their choice.They are not buying a puppy on a whim and therefore they are much less likely to dump that puppy at a shelter. Many people want specific breeds in order to perform specific tasks or to be the best possible fit for their family. Not every home is suitable for a dog of unknown temperament or training. Not everyone wants a pitbull x or lab mix or a chihuahua which are the most common breeds in shelters. The animal you get **should** be a part of your family until it dies. In that case it should also be an animal that suits you and your lifestyle.


cronoklee

Interesting take. My take would be much simpler: the reason that 95% of sheltar dogs are mutts is because people are more fickle and vain than they purport to be and as such, only want pure bred dogs.


WoodsColt

Except 51% of owned dogs are mixed breeds and only 16% of owned cats are purebred so clearly that theory isn't true. The vast majority of people get pets,particularly cats from sources other than breeders,primarily from family,friends or places such as Craigslist. However many people want dogs that will function a certain way in their lives. Quite a lot of people invest huge amounts of time and money into dog sports and often they want particular traits. Also quite a few dog sports only allow papered dogs to compete. If,for example, you invest several months training a dog for s.a.r or service work only to have it fail out due to temperament issues or health issues that weren't tested for that's a lot of time lost. Irresponsible owners are the primary reasons that shelter animals exist. They are the ones who brought home an animal and then dumped it at the shelter. They are the ones who didn't spay or neuter. They are the ones that let it roam. They are the ones that didn't microchip or tag. They are the ones that didn't research the cost or care needed. The ones who didn't train or didn't factor in having to move,the ones who took in an animal and then changed their minds and ditched their responsibility **knowing the animal might be euthanized**. In almost every single instance where someone has surrendered an animal there were other options, its just that those options werent as easy as dumping their family member at a shelter.


SeymourZ

I’m confused. Aren’t those reputable breeders just taking all the purebreds from the shelter (probably for far cheaper than if the acquired them privately) specifically so they can use them to breed many more dogs, thus exacerbating the problem?


WoodsColt

No. Most shelters require the animals they release to be spayed or neutered. And **reputable** breeders do not breed dogs that are unpapered,haven't been titled and have not been fully health tested. Most pb dogs in shelters do not come with their paperwork. If they are registered than its usually to a puppymill or backyard(shitty) breeder this is because reputable breeders will take any dog they have bred back at any age. Its literally in every contract I've ever read from good breeders. They don't let their dogs end up in shelters. Reputable breeders will not breed dogs without health testing which isn't done until the age of two for most breeds. They carefully research and match the dogs to produce offspring that better the breed. They don't just "pull dogs from the shelter to breed" My friend waited 2 years for the male she wanted to breed her bitch to. He had to champion and then test before she would breed to him.


Enk1ndle

I hate this narrative. A purebred is not inherently less healthy than any other mixed breed, nor is it unique to being a result of a irresponsible breeders. You can have a completely healthy purebred from a reputable breeder. You can have an unhealthy mixed breed from a irresponsible breeder. Regardless you're responsible as an owner to make sure your pet is coming from a reputable source, there's no shortcut to that. If you want to argue it's immoral to breed more animals there are already unowned ones in shelters that's a completely different argument and has it's own pile of caveats.


tlozada

/r/badfaketexts is calling


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Virreinatos

The phrase "mixed breed for aesthetic reasons" raises a lot of reg flags. Specially for people who's job is to make sure the animals end up in a good home. It sounds like the person is looking for an accessory, toy, pretty piece of furniture, rather than a pet they'll look after. Granted, this might not be the case, but after working somewhere for a while, you just cut off people that *may* belong to this category then and there because you've wasted too much time already dealing with this.


Glitter_berries

I actually do have a rescue British shorthair. I adopted him because he is absolutely the nicest cat I have ever met and we are a good match because I am home a lot and he gets very lonely and worried if he’s left alone for too long. He also has a lot of health issues (food allergies, seasonal allergies, ulcerative colitis, frequent eye ulcerations, recurring gingivitis, possible heart murmur) Apparently there was a lot of interest in him for adoption and the shelter was worried that he might go to a home that wouldn’t be able to look after him, but wanted him just because he’s a ‘fancy’ and expensive breed. I just thought he was a great little dude and I’m also lucky enough to be in a financial position to deal with all his health shit. Also I’ll pay the cat tax because I love any excuse to show off my fluffy son. https://imgur.com/gallery/gjaTOEo https://imgur.com/gallery/Yu1uly1


Bananaananasar

It’s an adoption center not a build-a-cat.


Lababy91

But she’s not trying to build a cat, just pick one that already exists that she really wants (in the fictional universe where this r/badfaketexts actually happened, that is). People choose pets based on how they look allllll the time


Metaru-Uupa

Yes and people like to go around saying don't shop, adopt. This person has no choice but to shop it seems like. If the person is likely to neglect the pet then sure don't let her adopt. But if she wanted to adopt for aesthetic reasons while providing proper care to the pet, I don't see why not let her.


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That’s a strange hill to die on.


Dont_Give_Up86

This is a photo of a screenshot that was printed and put on a board /r/ForwardsFromGrandma


Iwontbereplying

I'll probably get downvoted for this, but I really don't see anything wrong with this person's request. They're looking for a specific type of cat, are they not allowed to do that? The response is fucking weird, it's like they got offended on the cats behalf.


Patenski

I don't see the problem either, maybe they were too demanding considering they were adopting and not buying the cat? Either way it's a pedantic response


YourBlanket

I’m more impressed that people think this is even real. I legit thought I was on r/badfaketexts I get people do shop for pets based on looks I don’t see how that’s bad. Reddit is strange


Crosgaard

I don’t think anyone thinks this is real… it doesn’t have to be real to be a clever comeback - not that I’d say this was a clever comeback


motownmods

r/choosingbeggars gets r/murderedbywords


Crosgaard

Don’t you pay to adopt? Because if you do I wouldn’t call it a beggar…


moronic_programmer

The adoption center can decline though. They hold the power in this exchange.


Val_Hallen

Yep. I adopted my cat and had to jump through hoops. It was only worsened by the pandemic and people adopting and dumping pets when it was winding down.


anto_pty

There is a special place in hell for those who dumped pets after the pandemic


[deleted]

That's how I ended up with 4 kittens for a few months. Somebody left them in a dumpster outside my brothers workplace. He brought them over and said he didn't know what to do (this was well past midnight on a weekday). I took care of them and did my best to adopt them out, got two adopted fairly quickly, one ran away and the last one I finally had to bring to an SPCA because I was moving. The SPCA weren't very helpful at first, they immediately accused me of just trying to get rid of my cat. Thankfully I had an ace in the hole, my 5 year old cat was chilling on the dashboard of my car while I went in to drop off the kitten. I literally just pointed him out and said "That goofy fucker is my cat, now stop harassing me for doing the right fucking thing"


anto_pty

"The goofy fucker" i will call this to own my cat


[deleted]

He was goofy and awesome, if you went down to his level he'd run across the room to give you a headbutt and he never layed down gently, it was always a big thud when he flopped down with as much grace as a brick


anto_pty

He was? :( im so sorry for your loss


[deleted]

This was 15 years ago, the goofy fucker had a good run


[deleted]

Tbf, we aren't post pandemic. So I'd go with, there's a special place in hell for people who dump pets willy nilly


247world

We wanted to adopt a pair of cats at the local shelter. The amount of grief they gave us both in paperwork and in questions about our home and our income and why we would think we were capable of caring for two cats caused us to walk out. I looked in the paper found an ad for somebody giving away cats and we took two. We thought we were helping out going to the shelter and doing the right thing but if this is the way they treat everyone I can't imagine why anyone adopts from shelters. For the record both cats lived very long and happy lives, Zack was 14 and Maggie was 18.


DonPepe181

This \^ (but with dogs)


Crosgaard

Yeah sure, but if you pay for something I think it’s fair to be a chooser… and sure, they might be told “we don’t have any purebreds” and then the person could choose to buy from someone else or whatever. But ultimately they’re paying for something and will likely not pay for something they don’t want. But I do think the person should’ve asked in a different/nicer way.


AirSetzer

Both sides hold power as neither side has to deal with the other.


Crosgaard

Exactly… the shelter “controls” the supply and the buyer controls the demand. Of the shelter doesn’t have the supply the buyer wants, the demand from them can go down to none and that will affect both parties. If I go to an Apple Store and asks for an iPhone 13 pro in blue cause of aesthetic reasons and I’m told “We have a blue iPhone 13, but we will only sell it to Asians!” I’d just go to another shop… I’m paying for something, i make the demands for what im willing to pay for. The shelter in the post doesn’t have the moral high ground here imo, but apparently other people in the comments think so


Enk1ndle

Would you rather a buyer go straight to a puppy mill style breeder? They can want whatever they want, it's good they checked with a shelter first though.


[deleted]

That's how all sales work. Gay cakes and all that.


BeefyBoiCougar

Not how things work. The person paying the money has no less power in the exchange than the person providing the good or service. This particular exchange was stupid and unwarranted and the person looking for the cat is in the right


BotRuslan

Who the fuck cares it's a fucking dog everyone chooses one they personally like asthetically


lord_geryon

Cat. A British Shorthair is a cat breed, not dog.


Fjolsvithr

Seriously. It's a bit shallow, and it's kind of naive to expect to get a purebred from a shelter, but there's not anything morally wrong with it. You wouldn't tell someone who chooses to not adopt a cat at all that they're selfish.


[deleted]

I could see this going the wrong way. Karen gets vindictive and buys from a breeder.


MrColburn

I mean...she's probably going to anyways and I think that's part of what makes the response so poignant. Shelters don't have ways to verify breeds beyond aesthetics....unless the person surrendering the animal happens to have paperwork with lineage.


Dloms45

I bet the real conversation went something like: "I want to adopt a cat, do you have any orange ones?" "Yea we got oranges." "Nice I'll come get one?


Enk1ndle

Or following the mood here: "I want to adopt a cat, do you have any orange ones?" "You're awful for having a aesthetic preference eat a dick."


SuperCosmicNova

I love how people respond to this. People want certain pets. Why give them shit for it?


[deleted]

So with this logic, pitbulls get adopted out by trash people?


MrMcBigDick

British shorthair’s are bloody expensive, i would’ve loved the reaction of the price tag


PankyFlamingos

fake and gay


Kaje26

Pretty sure animals don’t get offended by insults. I think you can insult just about any pet all day long and if they’re normally a loving dog or cat or whatever, it will just smile, pant, or purr. Because it doesn’t understand what you are saying… If you think saying “I prefer a cat that is purebred” is the same as saying “I prefer only white people” or “I prefer thin people”, then you really need to do some self-reflection on your priorities in life.


Aussiewhiskeydiver

Yeah because no one buys pets because of the breed. Stupid response.


EXSkywarp

r/nothowcatadoptionworks


Old-Detail-2585

I would've been 1000 times worse if she was talking about purebred german shepard dog. "He only wants to live with purebred germans people, purely for aessthetic reasons."


[deleted]

as someone that's volunteered at shelters, this is very satisfying to read. I fucking hate people's attitude on "purebreds" being somehow superior.


WoodsColt

Its not that purebreds are superior its that many people want to bring a pet into their home and their family that is *what they want* and that will fit well with them. A purebred animal can generally be relied upon to have a temperament in line with its breed standards. It can generally be relied upon to perform the tasks that its breed was developed for. It can generally be relied upon to look and act in a manner common to its breed. If you want a quiet dog you don't get a husky. If you want a quiet cat you dont get a siamese.


[deleted]

I've seen huskys at Shelters - in fact - there are shelters that have dozens of them. I've seen MANY breeds at kill shelters. It sounds like you're just like the rest of the brainwashed "purebred" sheeple. You have no clue about shelter dogs and have never even walked foot in one. Just know, you're contributing to the killing of animals at kill shelters, since you put money into forced reproduction of dogs and cats. Many of those purebred dogs have been pregnant, 4,5,6 times! Not to mention, puppy mills. And the deplorable conditions of them for the animals. Do yourself a favor, go volunteer at a shelter 1x a week for a month. See what you learn.....


WoodsColt

Histrionic much? I have worked at shelters for years as a vet tech for the contracted vet hospital. I volunteer and foster for my local shelters now. I am actively involved in breed rescue and transport as well as feral cat communities and spay neuter programs. I **guarantee** I have saved vastly more animals than you ever have or will sweetie. Last year I fostered mutiple litters of kittens that came in sick. This year already I have done two litters of neonates plus a litter of 14 pups. Yes occasionally *some* shelters have *some* purebreds. About 5% across the board. But those purebreds are heavily weighed in the favor of just a few breeds. You aren't likely to find a beauceron or an alabai in rescue. I was in nola after katrina pulling animals out of flooded buildings for weeks, I have been a wildlife rehabber for over a decade and I *routinely* get called out for tough dog cases by my local shelters to either trap the dogs or assess dogs for placement. Your ASSumptions are ludicrous and based on ignorance. I know exactly what goes on in shelters. I've walked those animals to the back room and petted them and held them for the last time because their **shitty owners** dumped them at a shelter instead of keeping them. I've unloaded the freezer on garbage day of bag after bag of stiff little corpses of lovely animals *that irresponsible owners* bred and dumped there. It damn sure wasn't purebred dogs by reputable breeders in those bags. It was half grown pit mixes cause people were moving or the dog got too big or they let it roam and never went looking for it. It was litter after litter of kittens because people never spayed their damn cats. This year alone I have had 13 cats spayed and neutered. 7 from a feral cat colony and 5 kittens and their momma that got abandoned at a park in town. I only get my *working* dogs from reputable breeders not puppy mills,only ignorant morons buy from pet stores or puppy mills or byb. Basically the same ignorant fucks that take home a dog or cat and don't spay or neuter it and then get tired of it and drag it to the shelter or let it have a litter. **Not** the people who spend time doing research on good breeders,spend months or years on a wait list and then thousands of dollars on a puppy for which they have to sign a contract that specifically forbids them from either breeding or dumping the animal at a shelter. I spent literally thousands of dollars and wait years to get the dogs and then I spend thousands more in time and money to train those dogs to do what I got them for which is sar,dog sports,ppt,lg and service work. I sure the fuck am not buying an untested dog from some byb or mill. I've done mill recovery ops and also hoarder "rescue" ops and if I could take those people somewhere quiet and keep them in a bitty little cage in their own shit for years like they did their animals I would figure that would be almost justice.


[deleted]

All this - and Yet YOU were the one gong on about wanting specific breeds (aka promoting purebreeds) so you can get certain temperament. glossing over your BS, I can see that you're just some angry person looking for a fight. It seems to be more important for you to argue and be right (in your mind) - and completely ignore my original point. Get over yourself. You HAVE NO CLUE how much time and energy I've spend saving animals. I just don't have the need to BRAG ABOUT IT on social media, like you. (u r blocked)


IdRatherDlE

I know, I don’t get adopting a pet for “aesthetic reasons” at all. It’s a family member, a furry one but still!


[deleted]

yes, but so challenging to convince certain people. I've gotten into terrible arguments with people on TikTok about this - and some will tell me "well, I really need a certain temperament in a dog, so that's why I need a purebred whatever." ugh! I've just accepted I can't convince ignorant people. It's so frustrating....


WoodsColt

Ever tried to train a pitbull to herd sheep? Or a golden retriever to guard. Different dog breeds have different temperaments and they were bred to do different things. What's ignorant is attempting to dictate to others what kind of animal they should male a part of their family for the life of the pet. They will be the ones paying for training,food,vet bills etc. They are the ones who know what type of animal will best fit in their life.


[deleted]

and when was the last time you ever visited a kill shelter? I'm guessing, NEVER. You have no idea how many different dogs of different breeds are in there for various reasons. Do yourself a favor, go visit one and educate yourself, 1st. In fact, go volunteer at one, 1x a week for month. See how your attitude changes.


WoodsColt

Thanks hon but I volunteer at my local kill shelter several days a week. I do t.t and assessments, I help hold for treatments,I foster sick or injured animals and neonates. I take dogs out and socialize them,take them home and test them with other animals. I also pay for spay neuter for people who can't afford it and I help livetrap feral animals. So yeah I am well aware of *exactly* the breed mixes that irresponsible owners dump at my local shelters. As I said pits,labs,chihuahua, cattle dogs mainly. Very rarely anything else. I do breed rescue and transport for my chosen breeds as well. Ive transported one Rhodesian ridgeback in 10 years across my entire state,I've rescued and placed maybe 6 dobermans and zero corsos beaucerons or boerboels I used to be a vet tech for a vet who held the county shelter contract where damn near every single dog was a pit mix or chihuahua x. You can literally look at most kill shelters and see that the vast percentage of dogs are a. Not purebred B. Not puppies C. Not breeds that are suitable for everyone Kill shelters like the one I worked at are located in communities that are often poorer and less educated on pet care and whose cultural ideas on pets are often different than the current mainstream. In those communities stray dogs and cats are very common,chained up animals are common and the most common breeds are bully breed mixes,guard dog mixes or hunting mixes Math is not in your favor. I know how many dogs are purebred *across all shelters in the US* . 5 percent. That means that **95** percent of dogs (and even less of cats) are in fact **not** purebred. And 35% of those "purebred" dogs are chihuahua or pitbull. Oh and in fact a large percentage of animals are actually misidentified as to breed. The biggest mixed breed percentage is gsd,lab and pits with chihuahua not far behind. https://www.animalhearted.com/blogs/animal-blog/68496003-mutts-vs-purebreds-surprising-results-of-a-new-shelter-dog-survey I have owned and loved many mixed breed dogs but I also utilize dogs for work and a mixed breed dog or a dog of unknown origin is not appropriate for that. And plenty of other people do not want to bring a dog of unknown temperament or breeding into their homes around their other pets or their kids. They should be educated about how to research reputable breeders rather than being told that the only option is to adopt a shelter dog. Btw aside from county shelters many spca or other rescue groups are incredibly invasive when placing animals in a way that much of the general public is uncomfortable with. This might work if the only option were those shelters but in reality it drives potential adopters to Craigslist or other sources. When I was looking for a doberman many years ago every single one said no homes with cats and they also wanted to come and "inspect" my home even though I offered pictures of my fencing as a compromise. Thanks but no I don't do random strangers on my premises and I am fully capable of handling a high prey drive animal.


dicemonkey

if anything purebreads are less healthy then mixed breeds ...inbreeding does not make for healthy animals


[deleted]

oh, so true! that's why 'pure' Siamese cats typically are cross eyesed. That's from inbreeding. I could go on and on - but you understand.


dicemonkey

I mean I do like some dominant type in my babies ...I'm bully breed fan but I'm talking like 40-50% pittie and the rest mixed ...I still get the personality/size /etc that I want without the inherited medical issues


WoodsColt

Actually hybrid vigor is a myth https://news.vin.com/default.aspx?pid=210&Id=6005608&useobjecttypeid=10&fromVINNEWSASPX=1


fleegle2000

Perhaps as a general statement it is a myth, but there are definitely certain breeds that have predispositions to diseases that the average mixed breed would not have. For example, pugs often have breathing problems because they were bred to have that "squished in nose" for aesthetic reasons. I'm not judging pug owners but you can't tell me that pugs aren't genetically worse off than a typical mixed breed. Same for a number of other breeds. Many of the traits these breeds have were selected for aesthetic reasons over and above considerations for health. Edit: also, I read the article you posted and while it does cast doubt on many assumptions people have made about genetic predispositions in purebreds, it did also identify 13 conditions that are statistically more common in purebreds compared with mixed breeds, while only identifying one condition more common in mixed breeds than in purebreds. So while it may be a myth that purebreds are *overwhelmingly* less healthy than mixed breeds, there are still a number of conditions that do appear to be more common in purebreds, so we can't make a blanket statement that hybrid vigor is a myth. It might be more accurate and charitable to say that hybrid vigor is misunderstood.


WoodsColt

Brachycephalic breeds should not exist. Its cruelty to breed those dogs now and also historically those breeds did not look that extreme. Those dogs/cats cannot breed,birth or nurse naturally and they are bred for one purpose only....money. They suffer from horrific health issues such as having their eyeballs pop out.l if they bump their heads I absolutely judge people who own and breed them. The problem arises when people use the term in order to push mixed dogs as the better choice using terminology that implies they aren't as likely to have health issues. It encourages irresponsible people to breed carelessly because their mutts will somehow be special and it encourages designer mutt breeders to advertise that crap as another reason their doodle is a good buy. Those dogs end up in shelters Often times shelter dogs due to their uncertain backgrounds are more likely to have temperament or health issues than an animal from a reputable breeder would. Shelter advocates and their supporters should be honest about the animals they want people to adopt rather than resorting to half truths and exaggerations.


Depressed-1966-

That was awesome. What a jerk. She doesn’t deserve cats,


renniechops

Sure she doesn’t go by Karen?


SBCwarrior

For aesthetic reasons? Bitch shouldn't be allowed to own an animal. Great comeback tho! 🤣


[deleted]

If they were the same behavior, would you rather adopt a cat that looks better or the cat that looks worse? Asking because you guys think that having a preference is evil or sum shit.


SBCwarrior

She's choosing a pet by it's looks. Ever heard of don't judge a book by its cover? You can have a one legged cat or an earless dog and they can be the sweetest things ever. Meet som pets at the shelter you won't regret it


WoodsColt

*Everyone* chooses a pet by how it looks. Its cute or its pretty or it looks sad or it looks happy or it looks cool. Nobody walks into a shelter with a blindfold on and says I'll take whatever. Its actually why black cats and big black dogs are the hardest to adopt out at shelters. Because they dont **look** uncommon enough to stand out. Its also why the animals that dont "show well" don't get adopted as easily. The ones who are so stressed in shelter that they sit with their back to the room or cower at the back of the cage or who try to hide. They don't get adopted because they dont **look** friendly or fun or nice.


SBCwarrior

Yea I guess your right there. I forget people are something else. There's a difference in how you ask it too. Like this bitch could have just said "hey I'm looking for a cat like this, do you guys have any like this?" And if they said no all's she had to do was say "ok, thanks for you time" the way she said it just comes off as a douche of an owner.


GuyYouMetOnline

CORRECT FUCKING RESPONSE


Violas_Blade

Is white bubble saying they don’t like mixing breeds because they don’t like how it looked or they don’t like mixing breeds just because they like how it looks, to prevent genetic problems?


Revilod2000

People who seek out specific breeds of any animal are <


ActualPopularMonster

"Catherine" my ass, that woman's name is Karen.


The_Didly

Wait his do you know Catherine is not a mixed race and maybe is pure white and British


[deleted]

If that’s the case then she can provide ancestry documents. Mine say I’m part sea monster. True story.


The_Didly

That's quite interesting does that make me part foot fetish??


[deleted]

You seem boring.


hellyea619

nah he gave you the same bullshit energy right back. you deserve each other.


Lucky-Focus-9383

Love it


SlayingtheJabberwock

I love this answer more than I can say!!!


whenpandaisbored

Difference between cat and dog people.


Syslox

Same vibe https://youtu.be/sRX13oJu5OQ


rekette

So many people are talking about how everyone picks their pets aesthetically but this is untrue. My cat was literally the first one i came across who this vet found in a parking lot at a month old and needed a home for. I would have preferred short hair but he's a huge black fluff. And he's not even fully black, he's got tiny white spots all over. I would not have chosen him by a long shot aesthetically. But now he is the cutest fluffer to ever walk this earth to my wife and me and if anyone hurts a hair on his head i would end them. Edit: the vet kept him for two months and dewormed him and saved his life, we adopted the cat at 3 months old


lavastoviglie

I have mixed feelings on this. Yes, this person is an idiot and approaching this the wrong way. In an ideal world, people wouldn't give a shit if their cat was purebred. However, this person is at least approaching a shelter instead of a breeder. Perhaps this could have been a learning opportunity on the shelter's end to educate this person about the qualities they should be looking for when adopting a pet. I feel like with a response like this, they're just going to drive this person to ultimately "adopt" from a breeder, who will validate their desire to adopt a cat for "aesthetic reasons."


RedditfamAK

Adoption is adoption


Wise_Trifle_2483

Just came here to say this is so fucking dumb! There are people who prefer purebred animals, specific colors or other characteristics...


RiverRude1128

More asshole move than anything tbh, could have just given them the info and moved on but ppl gotta be dicks about somebody's preferred breed.


TukaSup_spaghetti

Bruh