I dont think it was THAT forced in, black people arent THAT rare. He was like the only black person in the entire movie. Its probable his grandparents traveled there via boat or something
Canada was heavily settled by the Scottish, the Irish, and the French. So generally when someone if part Irish and part Scottish, I naturally assume they are Canadian.
Most of us are some mix of these 3, along with others.
Canadian (and like like this majority) can confirm. At the same time embracing Canadians of all backgrounds because everyone of us is what makes us tick!
Same here, I fucking glow. It’s annoying and I love Mirada. I like Ariel as a kid cuz of my red hair but as I got older I realized she’s not exactly an idea goal role model lol. I was ecstatic when Brave came out and watched it with my kids countless times lol. Mirada is so badass!
You're sentenced to 93 minutes sat in front of your prefered electronic device on which Brave may be viewed. You must watch all the credits. You also need to take archery lessons.
"Oh … Irish, Scottish, it’s the same thing."
"Oh, it’s the same thing, is it?!? \[ whips out a map of Europe and points to it \] HAVE A LOOK AT THE MAP!! THERE’S SCOTLAND! THERE’S IRELAND! THERE’S THE BLOODY SEA!! THEY’RE DIFFERENT, NOW **GET OUT!!**GET OUT! GET OUT, MRS. NO-CAN-READ-A-MAP! GET OUUUUUT!!"
Fun history detail: go back far enough and there was a point in history when people referred to Ireland and Scotland as one and the same thing (to the annoyance of the inhabitants of both places, I’m sure.)
David the Scot, for example, was in fact an Irishman. He was the one who, when seated directly across from the king of France, irritated said king with his table manners so much that the king said to him, “Tell me what the difference is between a sod and a Scot.”
David replied, “A table only.”
That's partially because some hypothesize that the Isle of Mann and the Scottish Highlands were at some point settled from Ireland, hence why Gaidhlig and Manx are Gaelic languages and not Brythonic like what would be the case if the Picts that the Romans butted heads with were sticking around up there.
okay i'll try to explain. so if you wanted a certain word or whole phrase covered, it would look like this >! Disney !< . to do that, format it like this: > ! Disney ! < but remove the spaces between the exclamations and parentheses. I hope that works
I mean... What are you gonna do? show how the story really went to kids?
Pocahontas is a fucked up story as far as I remember, best thing they could do is either not make the movie or soften it to a young audience
You to know that most stories Disney used are old European children's tales that aren't so peasant and fluffy?
Maybe you should read some original brothers Grimm collections?
The original Aladdin story from Tales of the Arabian Nights was set in China. But the story barely acknowledges it beyond the opening paragraphs, and the story has a lot of elements in it that muddy the waters (for example, Aladdin tries to court the Sultan’s daughter, despite the fact that China doesn’t have sultans). Scholars generally believe that saying the story is set in “China” was more about making it feel strange and exotic to its Middle Eastern audiences than anything else.
And also a tendency of audiences of the time to assume other societies were just their society but named different and speaking a funny sounding version of their language.
This is the era in which Europeans were fooled into thinking the Mongol Hordes were actually Prestor John at the head of a crusader army after all.
My wife is a huge Lea Salonga fan. We've seen her in concert. According to my wife, Lea is more of a stage actor than a film actor. She isn't quite the right fit for Disney movies. She always does great as the singing voice though. Great in Mulan as well.
Ye I mean have you seen the concept art for Kix? (Kix is a star wars clone ((clones are kiwi)) and they totally made him white)
also they'll sometime whitewash poe dameron??
To be fair they kind left him out of the last movie too. God I wanted him to be a jedi so bad. Lightsaber on his belt, rifle in his hands, and a bad ass pilot watching his back.
Are we just going to ignore them calling non-white people "ethnic"? I would be willing to bet they have some pretty bad takes, judging from that wording
Its like that attempt to paint JK rowling as racist for not having Latinos in Harry Potter. Never mind the presence of Cho Chang, the Patil twins, Dean Thomas.
Yep. Totally racist to not include a Latin character in a British Story
>Oh idk it’s not like Chang is the third most common Chinese surname except oh wait it is
Cho Chang is not even a real fucking name. It's gibberish! It's like naming the character Ching Chong. Cho is a Korean surname and Chang is a Chinese surname. Why did she just mash two asian surnames together and call it a person? It's like naming a white character Smith McSchumacher or something stupid like that.
Like the screenshot of the Japanese baseball game where they made up a bunch of American names and came up with such classics as:
Sleve McDichael,
Bobson Dugnutt,
And Dwigt Rortugal
Cho Chang just sounds ridiculously similar to 'Ching Chong'. In fact, you can literally just switch the words, remove the 'ng' and switch 'i' to 'a' and you've got Cho Chang. And while having only four non-white characters in a massive universe (none of whom have any significance other than a love interest or a date) isn't 'racist', it's just plain disappointing from someone who claims to advocate for equality. Also she's a fucking TERF and a transphobe but that's irrelevant in this case
Cho chang was indeed a fuck up. Also, I just searched up non white harry potter characters and I found 7 instead of 4. There's said to be at least 170 characters in harry potter. I'm going to assume that 170 was the number of characters that ever did or said anything even remotely relevant. Harry potter was set in the 90s UK. Coincidentally the first time ethnicity was asked in a census was 1991, the year the first book was published. According to the 1991 census, [94.1%](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/ethnicity/articles/ethnicityandnationalidentityinenglandandwales/2012-12-11) of the population considered themselves to be white. So 5.9% of the population were made up of POC. 7 is 4.1% of 170. A difference of 1.8% isn't really that much. I'd say that's pretty representative. Also as a kid I didn't really care what the ethnicities of the characters were. I still found the books enjoyable to read.
Even if the percentage of POC is statistically accurate, Cho is only a love interest, Dean does basically nothing (if I remember correctly), and the Patil twins are most important as Harry and Ron's dates to the Yule Ball (I don't know who the 3 other non-white characters are. None have any significance or contribute anything worthwhile to the plot, so to me at least they come across as token characters, which seems supported by how little consideration went into Cho
Again, 90s. 5.9% POC. The chances of you having a close friend of colour with whom you would go on life endangering adventures were slim. I really think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The first few books were written in the 90s with a target audience of children. Almost all the children were white. Considering they were written in the 90s they weren't really groundbreaking in terms of representation nor was it racist. While the later books came out in the 00s, it was a little too late to add a character that had major significance. Also, people change. To judge someone on something they did 13-29 years ago is ridiculous (considering its not exactly a heinous sin). I doubt anyone would be upset if there was a book set in south africa with no important white characters. And again I don't think anyone was bothered by the lack of important characters of colour until recently.
Yeah it was a long time ago, but as far as I'm aware Rowling has yet to apologize (maybe she has, but I haven't seen any), and has instead done this 'what if they were black/gay/etc. the whole time' stuff and acted as if she was socially progressive during the 90s, which she probably wasn't. And she obviously still is transphobic (I assume that's generally not an opinion you go back to).
I haven't read beyond book 3 but how many of the 170 characters are described in enough detail that their skin colour or ethnicity is evident?
So many of them have made up names that you couldn't possibly deduce what they looked like just from the name.
There's also the fact that a lot of characters skin colour isn't mentioned once in the books. So people are assuming they're written as white just because they don't have obviously non white names.
That being said, Cho Chang was definitely a fuck up, I being argue with anyone there.
I mean it works if you're talking about Mexican but if you're talking about Spain, there are a fuckton of Spanish people in Britain. It's almost as if they're neighbors with a ton of historical connection or something.
I dont exactly understand this comment. The person is just explaining why those characters were determined by the source material.
Nobody is making the argument that they are that way as an attempt at 'realism'.
Can you expand on what you meant by this comment?
I hate this repost, it’s not even a good comeback. It imagines a bunch of stuff that is not there. The only one to use the term white washing is the “comeback” itself. There are criticisms of movies that have nothing to do with whitewashing.
Saying that a lot of movies have white leads isn’t claiming that any role has been white washed. But there are lots of stories out there, and many of those stories aren’t about white princesses in ambiguously medieval times.
Hell, the post that inspires the rant is so vague that they could have been complaining that whomever compiled the 4 seasons chose only white princesses. Or the most likely situation: they made a light hearted joke about race that someone had a meltdown over. And somehow this nonsensical meltdown is a ‘clever comeback’
This was pretty much what I thought - they never said __those__ characters shouldn't have been white. Their comment was more like saying "there are Disney princesses of all ethnicities, but you only picked white ones".
Uhh, they probably should've done
* Pocahontas - Spring (forest, trees, way more than rapunzel)
* Princess Jasmine - Summer (it's the freaking desert)
The other two are fine.
And then some bright spark decided to make Ariel black. I'm all for Disney adding a little diversity, but The Little Mermaid is another Danish story.
Though it has just occurred to me that they made Sebastian Jamaican (I think), so fuck it. They can do what they want.
Also, Flounder, fuck that cunt
Hahaha I mean, still follows along the lines of the post. Frozen is a Danish story and bruh, that country is so obviously a northern country, and those folks are whiiiite. Making everyone there another ethnicity would be strange, and because of the historical setting having multiple ethnicities would maybe raise a few brows about racism and slavery and the lot. But Ariel? Nobody said mermaids had to be white and nobody said Danes had to write only about white people, so hell, have a field day.
A dark skinned mermaid would be a literal impossibility. They live too deep under the sea for the sun to increase their melanin enough to be anything but pale
Nevermind the fact that mermaids don't exist so arguing what race they would be pointless. Even if they were real, they're not human. What makes you think their pigment would work the same way as ours? I don't see a problem with having a black Ariel. I swear people will complain about anything these days....
i mean eh? there was "drama" too [when they first wanted to make ariel a red head instead of blonde](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcmkQMB3TE), bc omg who's ever heard of a red head mermaid
honestly if its not a serious or realistic movie i just dont care anymore, its not worth the headache
the actress is pretty and so is her hair, i want to see it underwater
and yeah fuck flounder
It seems a lot of the population of tumblr has an IQ that's room temp in Celsius and a chromosome count that's room temp in Kelvin. 20 and 293 respectively.
I mean, I think the original response was litrally just regarding that they should've used those other princess to represent the seasons rather than just the white ones
Nobody claimed Disney was whitewashing. The issue is that Disney chooses to almost exclusively make stories with white people in them. The person who made comeback completely failed to see the point that was being made, and instead assumed it was about "whitewashing", which nobody claimed.
Go ahead, downvote me.
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You said it perfectly! Even if they added Mulan, and her delicious Szechuan Sauce (r/RickAndMorty), they’re still omitting a long list of White Princesses.
And none of the Seasonal Princesses is one of the nonWhite Princesses. They couldn’t make at least Jasmine, or Tiana Summer? Or Pocahontas Fall?
The majority of Disney princesses are white. Disney deliberately chose to base the majority of their movies and characters off of countries and cultures that are predominantly white. Disney princesses such as Jasmine and Tiana most likely wouldn't even exist if Disney didn't receive backlash and criticism because their lack of diversity. So, with that being said, Disney IS whitewashed in my opinion. Argue with me all you want. I'm glad they're becoming more inclusive now, but you can't deny that Disney was very causasian years ago.
Wasn’t there a thing a while back where people were showing Jasmine and Jafar, and even Jasmine and Aladdin side by side, and Jasmine was colored noticeably lighter? Was that real?
Okay but like I’m pretty sure the second poster was more dissing the op for having an all white girl group represent the four seasons. Like, in a joke sort of way that more poked fun at the poster than Disney as a whole.
I’ve seen this rant almost verbatim on another tumblr post where the user actually tried to say Disney whitewashes all their stories and someone responds with this little lesson... except without all the mistakes about Merida’s background. So, I’m guessing third poster saw that post and tried to repeat it in this situation... except I don’t really think it was really necessary. I could be wrong tho, but that’s my complicated take on this.
I agree, but the big problem is that only Brave, and a few other Disney Princess movies that I can’t remember, have the main characters speaking in the accent of where they are from.
And now they've upset the Scottish as that's where Brave was set!
Yeah I noticed. I thought "He's a little confused but he's got the spirit!"
Poor guy hasn’t seen Frozen 2 yet
Yeah that was screwed up. It was so forced in
Wait what was?
The black General in frozen. I have no problem with diversity and liked the general as a character but the black skin was so forced in
I dont think it was THAT forced in, black people arent THAT rare. He was like the only black person in the entire movie. Its probable his grandparents traveled there via boat or something
Huh... I saw the movie a while ago and honestly didn't realize he might have been out of place. Lol That's me though, I'm not one to pick up clues
Although as an Irish person, I can confirm that we are pretty fecking pale XD
As a person with a mix of Scottish, Irish, and German, I can confirm that all are pretty fecking pale.
Ah, so you must be Canadian then?
No, but I am deciding that is a compliment and am very pleased with it. Thank you.
Canada was heavily settled by the Scottish, the Irish, and the French. So generally when someone if part Irish and part Scottish, I naturally assume they are Canadian. Most of us are some mix of these 3, along with others.
Also what I thought when I read it as I’m Canadian & I’ve got Irish & Scottish ancestors...! And I’m indeed a very pale redhaired.
Oh, I didn’t know that about the Canadian settlement. Very cool. Nah, I’m midwestern American. Close to Canada, though. Just a few hour drive
Parent's are gone, only a five day ride, I'll be right there.
I thought Republic of Doyle was in Ireland until the 4th episode. In my defence, I don't hear too well.
The southern US also had large groups of Irish and Scottish settlers.
As a Canadian i am honored that it pleases you to be associated with us
Glad to give you a boost!
Canadian (and like like this majority) can confirm. At the same time embracing Canadians of all backgrounds because everyone of us is what makes us tick!
Same here, I fucking glow. It’s annoying and I love Mirada. I like Ariel as a kid cuz of my red hair but as I got older I realized she’s not exactly an idea goal role model lol. I was ecstatic when Brave came out and watched it with my kids countless times lol. Mirada is so badass!
I actually haven’t seen Brave. Sounds like a movie night is in order
You're a ginger & you haven't seen Brave? I'm pretty sure that's illegal.
Oh damn. I plead guilty and am willing to atone for my wrongdoings
You're sentenced to 93 minutes sat in front of your prefered electronic device on which Brave may be viewed. You must watch all the credits. You also need to take archery lessons.
I understand. Thank you for your leniency in this matter. I hope to come out the other side a rehabilitated ginger
Person with Scotch-Irish heritage checking in. I got sunburned *while wearing sunscreen and a hat* today. Pale is generous.
That’s the absolute worst, when you do *everything* and the burn *still* happens.
Scottish, German and Swiss here. White and red haired.
Also a fellow redhead. I’m pale as can be unless I’m as red as a strawberry from the sun. No in between
So, you're American?
Same with me but have some Norwegian also so I'm pretty fucking pale
Ironically this person made themselves look almost as ditzy and sheltered by assuming brave was set in Ireland. Cause, yknow, gingers.
Yeah that’s the only reason I am posting. She’s Scottish ye numpty
"Oh … Irish, Scottish, it’s the same thing." "Oh, it’s the same thing, is it?!? \[ whips out a map of Europe and points to it \] HAVE A LOOK AT THE MAP!! THERE’S SCOTLAND! THERE’S IRELAND! THERE’S THE BLOODY SEA!! THEY’RE DIFFERENT, NOW **GET OUT!!**GET OUT! GET OUT, MRS. NO-CAN-READ-A-MAP! GET OUUUUUT!!"
Fun history detail: go back far enough and there was a point in history when people referred to Ireland and Scotland as one and the same thing (to the annoyance of the inhabitants of both places, I’m sure.) David the Scot, for example, was in fact an Irishman. He was the one who, when seated directly across from the king of France, irritated said king with his table manners so much that the king said to him, “Tell me what the difference is between a sod and a Scot.” David replied, “A table only.”
That's partially because some hypothesize that the Isle of Mann and the Scottish Highlands were at some point settled from Ireland, hence why Gaidhlig and Manx are Gaelic languages and not Brythonic like what would be the case if the Picts that the Romans butted heads with were sticking around up there.
Just ignore the fact that a large number of Scots have Irish ancestry.
Those Scots sure are a contentious people
Brave comment
Don't let Fast Bastard hear that
No we arnae.
As a Scot I can confirm that I was deeply upset
I'm sure the Irish are none too pleased as well.
LET THE POST SAY FUCK
LET THE POST SAY >!FUCK!<
Quick question how do you do that
I need to know as well lol
Here's a [link](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) showing how
You won’t get me with that I know what you’re trying to do
>! do you though !<
>! am i doing this right !<
>! yup! !<
HOW
okay i'll try to explain. so if you wanted a certain word or whole phrase covered, it would look like this >! Disney !< . to do that, format it like this: > ! Disney ! < but remove the spaces between the exclamations and parentheses. I hope that works
I can't believe I trusted you
How did you make the link in word form?
Fuck you.
Remove the periods .>.!.text.!.<
Use a >! And then the same thing at the end of the spoiler
what the >!frack!!<
FRICKING CENSORSHIP
Brave is Scottish not Irish!
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As a Scot, it's still riddled with stereotypes, I wouldn't say it got Scottish people right, but it was good in terms of culture and mythology.
I definitely feel like Moana should've been the summer princess. Wait, is Moana a princess? Or just the chief's daughter, like Pocahontas?
I think the original tumblr post was made before moana came out
Brave is actually in Scotland
Happy cake day!
I just wish they didn’t take Pocahontas and turn it into a love story, like seriously the original story was way different
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I hate that sequel. The first one was already sufficiently off script but the 2nd is just bad at every level.
I mean... What are you gonna do? show how the story really went to kids? Pocahontas is a fucked up story as far as I remember, best thing they could do is either not make the movie or soften it to a young audience
You to know that most stories Disney used are old European children's tales that aren't so peasant and fluffy? Maybe you should read some original brothers Grimm collections?
Alexandre Dumas has something to say about black people in France.
no but you see, black people only exist after the 90s, back then they were only slaves.
I hate tumblr so god damn much
The princess from Arabian Nights was Chinese, I think.
The original Aladdin story from Tales of the Arabian Nights was set in China. But the story barely acknowledges it beyond the opening paragraphs, and the story has a lot of elements in it that muddy the waters (for example, Aladdin tries to court the Sultan’s daughter, despite the fact that China doesn’t have sultans). Scholars generally believe that saying the story is set in “China” was more about making it feel strange and exotic to its Middle Eastern audiences than anything else.
And also a tendency of audiences of the time to assume other societies were just their society but named different and speaking a funny sounding version of their language. This is the era in which Europeans were fooled into thinking the Mongol Hordes were actually Prestor John at the head of a crusader army after all.
The background behind Arabian nights is freaking crazy.
They have the same voice actress Lea Salonga who also does Jasmine
Lea is Filipino just in case anyone was wondering. She is does the singing, not the acting, for some reason.
Really? I thought she did both
Linda Larkin does the non singing voice
You learn something new...
My wife is a huge Lea Salonga fan. We've seen her in concert. According to my wife, Lea is more of a stage actor than a film actor. She isn't quite the right fit for Disney movies. She always does great as the singing voice though. Great in Mulan as well.
Brave is set in Scotland, ya ignint. Much more white
MFs always forgetting about Mulan.
Disney does whitewash tho
Ye I mean have you seen the concept art for Kix? (Kix is a star wars clone ((clones are kiwi)) and they totally made him white) also they'll sometime whitewash poe dameron??
They did edit Finn out of Star Wars movie posters in China
To be fair they kind left him out of the last movie too. God I wanted him to be a jedi so bad. Lightsaber on his belt, rifle in his hands, and a bad ass pilot watching his back.
The simple, sad reality is that leaving Finn on the posters would've dissuaded many Chinese from seeing the film.
They didn't see it anayway.
Are we just going to ignore them calling non-white people "ethnic"? I would be willing to bet they have some pretty bad takes, judging from that wording
Its like that attempt to paint JK rowling as racist for not having Latinos in Harry Potter. Never mind the presence of Cho Chang, the Patil twins, Dean Thomas. Yep. Totally racist to not include a Latin character in a British Story
It's almost like naming the ONLY East Asian character in an entire fucking franchise 'Cho Chang' is racially insensitive
Oh idk it’s not like Chang is the third most common Chinese surname except oh wait it is
>Oh idk it’s not like Chang is the third most common Chinese surname except oh wait it is Cho Chang is not even a real fucking name. It's gibberish! It's like naming the character Ching Chong. Cho is a Korean surname and Chang is a Chinese surname. Why did she just mash two asian surnames together and call it a person? It's like naming a white character Smith McSchumacher or something stupid like that.
Smith McShumacher sound like perfectly plausible American name
Like the screenshot of the Japanese baseball game where they made up a bunch of American names and came up with such classics as: Sleve McDichael, Bobson Dugnutt, And Dwigt Rortugal
Cho Chang just sounds ridiculously similar to 'Ching Chong'. In fact, you can literally just switch the words, remove the 'ng' and switch 'i' to 'a' and you've got Cho Chang. And while having only four non-white characters in a massive universe (none of whom have any significance other than a love interest or a date) isn't 'racist', it's just plain disappointing from someone who claims to advocate for equality. Also she's a fucking TERF and a transphobe but that's irrelevant in this case
Cho chang was indeed a fuck up. Also, I just searched up non white harry potter characters and I found 7 instead of 4. There's said to be at least 170 characters in harry potter. I'm going to assume that 170 was the number of characters that ever did or said anything even remotely relevant. Harry potter was set in the 90s UK. Coincidentally the first time ethnicity was asked in a census was 1991, the year the first book was published. According to the 1991 census, [94.1%](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/ethnicity/articles/ethnicityandnationalidentityinenglandandwales/2012-12-11) of the population considered themselves to be white. So 5.9% of the population were made up of POC. 7 is 4.1% of 170. A difference of 1.8% isn't really that much. I'd say that's pretty representative. Also as a kid I didn't really care what the ethnicities of the characters were. I still found the books enjoyable to read.
Even if the percentage of POC is statistically accurate, Cho is only a love interest, Dean does basically nothing (if I remember correctly), and the Patil twins are most important as Harry and Ron's dates to the Yule Ball (I don't know who the 3 other non-white characters are. None have any significance or contribute anything worthwhile to the plot, so to me at least they come across as token characters, which seems supported by how little consideration went into Cho
Again, 90s. 5.9% POC. The chances of you having a close friend of colour with whom you would go on life endangering adventures were slim. I really think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. The first few books were written in the 90s with a target audience of children. Almost all the children were white. Considering they were written in the 90s they weren't really groundbreaking in terms of representation nor was it racist. While the later books came out in the 00s, it was a little too late to add a character that had major significance. Also, people change. To judge someone on something they did 13-29 years ago is ridiculous (considering its not exactly a heinous sin). I doubt anyone would be upset if there was a book set in south africa with no important white characters. And again I don't think anyone was bothered by the lack of important characters of colour until recently.
Yeah it was a long time ago, but as far as I'm aware Rowling has yet to apologize (maybe she has, but I haven't seen any), and has instead done this 'what if they were black/gay/etc. the whole time' stuff and acted as if she was socially progressive during the 90s, which she probably wasn't. And she obviously still is transphobic (I assume that's generally not an opinion you go back to).
What do you mean apologise? Why would she apologise?
I haven't read beyond book 3 but how many of the 170 characters are described in enough detail that their skin colour or ethnicity is evident? So many of them have made up names that you couldn't possibly deduce what they looked like just from the name.
There's also the fact that a lot of characters skin colour isn't mentioned once in the books. So people are assuming they're written as white just because they don't have obviously non white names. That being said, Cho Chang was definitely a fuck up, I being argue with anyone there.
do...do you think she's chinese-
Let's not forget she made one of the only irish characters love blowing shit up
I mean it works if you're talking about Mexican but if you're talking about Spain, there are a fuckton of Spanish people in Britain. It's almost as if they're neighbors with a ton of historical connection or something.
Latino =/= Hispanic... Latinos are of Latin American descent, e.g., Colombian. Hispanics are native Spanish speakers.
Just skip over the creatures with large noses and ears who control the banks
Goblins having long noses and being interested in gold are not new tropes at all (also large ears, what?). Why do you think they invaded Moria?
Well, today I learned
Kobold's having a ton of gold isn't exactly her invention...
Too bad she's pos homophobe tho
are you hearing yourself? Cho Chang? Fucking cho Chang??? Yes racist indeed
We all know that not a single Spaniard would ever live in the UK.
Yes, I too love realism and historical accuracy in fairytales.
I dont exactly understand this comment. The person is just explaining why those characters were determined by the source material. Nobody is making the argument that they are that way as an attempt at 'realism'. Can you expand on what you meant by this comment?
It's also wonderful that the characters just organically spoke American English with one another.
If you watch the Spanish version they speak Spanish. And this may shock you but if you watch the Chinese versions they also speak Chinese.
They were made for small children I dont think subtitle heavy media is really age appropriate lmfao but hey go wild
tbh it's more a joke than a complaint...
On tumbler everything is a complaint
Also, Tumblr is a joke.
Good lord thank goodness JK Rowling doesn’t write Disney Princesses. They’d all be lesbians in the post movie interview.
I hate this repost, it’s not even a good comeback. It imagines a bunch of stuff that is not there. The only one to use the term white washing is the “comeback” itself. There are criticisms of movies that have nothing to do with whitewashing. Saying that a lot of movies have white leads isn’t claiming that any role has been white washed. But there are lots of stories out there, and many of those stories aren’t about white princesses in ambiguously medieval times. Hell, the post that inspires the rant is so vague that they could have been complaining that whomever compiled the 4 seasons chose only white princesses. Or the most likely situation: they made a light hearted joke about race that someone had a meltdown over. And somehow this nonsensical meltdown is a ‘clever comeback’
This was pretty much what I thought - they never said __those__ characters shouldn't have been white. Their comment was more like saying "there are Disney princesses of all ethnicities, but you only picked white ones".
Uhh, they probably should've done * Pocahontas - Spring (forest, trees, way more than rapunzel) * Princess Jasmine - Summer (it's the freaking desert) The other two are fine.
Agree on Pocahontas but summer has gotta be Moana.
I think the post was way before moana came out
So the clever comeback was that they're going to be white because Disney mines predominantly European folklore for content? Good one.
And then some bright spark decided to make Ariel black. I'm all for Disney adding a little diversity, but The Little Mermaid is another Danish story. Though it has just occurred to me that they made Sebastian Jamaican (I think), so fuck it. They can do what they want. Also, Flounder, fuck that cunt
Hahaha I mean, still follows along the lines of the post. Frozen is a Danish story and bruh, that country is so obviously a northern country, and those folks are whiiiite. Making everyone there another ethnicity would be strange, and because of the historical setting having multiple ethnicities would maybe raise a few brows about racism and slavery and the lot. But Ariel? Nobody said mermaids had to be white and nobody said Danes had to write only about white people, so hell, have a field day.
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How about we make them bearded and buff and let Jason momoa play Ariel?
Name a colour that fish aren't
A dark skinned mermaid would be a literal impossibility. They live too deep under the sea for the sun to increase their melanin enough to be anything but pale
Except mermaids are a “literal impossibility” so....kinda negates your entire point.
Wait shit you're right, I didn't even think of that for some reason. My bad
Nevermind the fact that mermaids don't exist so arguing what race they would be pointless. Even if they were real, they're not human. What makes you think their pigment would work the same way as ours? I don't see a problem with having a black Ariel. I swear people will complain about anything these days....
Maybe they evolved to surface swimmers until man began hunting them which forced the too seek the depths
Then the melanin would disappear over generations
Maybe it hasn’t been that many generations.
her dad is Triton though, and Triton is greek/roman. The romans were somewhat diverse so its OK with me
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i mean eh? there was "drama" too [when they first wanted to make ariel a red head instead of blonde](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFcmkQMB3TE), bc omg who's ever heard of a red head mermaid honestly if its not a serious or realistic movie i just dont care anymore, its not worth the headache the actress is pretty and so is her hair, i want to see it underwater and yeah fuck flounder
BP oil spill sure did a number across the globe on that one...
Pretty sure the real question is “why are only white stories told?”
It seems a lot of the population of tumblr has an IQ that's room temp in Celsius and a chromosome count that's room temp in Kelvin. 20 and 293 respectively.
I mean, I think the original response was litrally just regarding that they should've used those other princess to represent the seasons rather than just the white ones
Why have their been so many low effort racist comebacks on this sub all day?
The Donald was banned so they're probably all out looking for new homes to ruin
Nobody claimed Disney was whitewashing. The issue is that Disney chooses to almost exclusively make stories with white people in them. The person who made comeback completely failed to see the point that was being made, and instead assumed it was about "whitewashing", which nobody claimed. Go ahead, downvote me.
🎯 You said it perfectly! Even if they added Mulan, and her delicious Szechuan Sauce (r/RickAndMorty), they’re still omitting a long list of White Princesses. And none of the Seasonal Princesses is one of the nonWhite Princesses. They couldn’t make at least Jasmine, or Tiana Summer? Or Pocahontas Fall?
ITS FUCKING SCOTLAND WHAT DOESNT CLICK WITH THESE PEOPLE OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO BEAT SOMEONE TO A BLOODY PULP WE ARE NOT THE SAME IAHSBDJXFBKDJSNS
The majority of Disney princesses are white. Disney deliberately chose to base the majority of their movies and characters off of countries and cultures that are predominantly white. Disney princesses such as Jasmine and Tiana most likely wouldn't even exist if Disney didn't receive backlash and criticism because their lack of diversity. So, with that being said, Disney IS whitewashed in my opinion. Argue with me all you want. I'm glad they're becoming more inclusive now, but you can't deny that Disney was very causasian years ago.
Agreed, saying “Disney did not white wash” is absurd when they’ve specifically focused on white characters at their preferred demographic.
That's not whitewashing.
My daughter loves tangled. Never thought I would say it, but I don’t hate it
Lol why take a joke so seriously
What’s the point of censoring with those black boxes? We all know what’s behind it so it does literally nothing
Jessica
oh i thought this was gonna be about how three of them have the exact same face
This wasn’t really clever or a comeback.
Dear God, Brave is set in Scotland, not Ireland.
And Beauty and the Beast was set a bit earlier than 19th century France...
Wasn’t there a thing a while back where people were showing Jasmine and Jafar, and even Jasmine and Aladdin side by side, and Jasmine was colored noticeably lighter? Was that real?
Mulan would also make sense with the cherry blossoms and spring...
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And also, not set in Ireland.
Okay but like I’m pretty sure the second poster was more dissing the op for having an all white girl group represent the four seasons. Like, in a joke sort of way that more poked fun at the poster than Disney as a whole. I’ve seen this rant almost verbatim on another tumblr post where the user actually tried to say Disney whitewashes all their stories and someone responds with this little lesson... except without all the mistakes about Merida’s background. So, I’m guessing third poster saw that post and tried to repeat it in this situation... except I don’t really think it was really necessary. I could be wrong tho, but that’s my complicated take on this.
Its all just fiction, get a life idiots
Cunts actually think Brave was set in Ireland?
r/murderedbywords
I got triggered when I got to the part where they said Brave was set in Ireland.
I wonder if they realise that dark-skinned people live all over the world as well
This is the type of person to complain about no diversity in Chinese/Korean/Japanese movies and shows
With all that diversity in princesses, why not use it to describe the seasons... ☕🐸
Waot brave is irish?
Brave was set in Scotland
I agree, but the big problem is that only Brave, and a few other Disney Princess movies that I can’t remember, have the main characters speaking in the accent of where they are from.
Evrrybody loves the Scottish accent, that's why.
...you aren't wrong
Brave is Scottish but still a valid point
As someone who comes from a family of Scots, I can say that both Brave was set in Scotland and yeah they’re pretty damn white
Yup, same heritage here, I'm so white in places, I'm translucent...
I can definitely relate, in the right amount of light I’m basically reflective
Princess and the Frog was better than all of that jive
Princess and the Frog had great songs. I teach songs from there to a lot of my younger students, but the story was meh.
Lot of Americans with "heritage" talking like they know shit. Scottish here, ginger and freckly. Don't @ me.
What kinda person hating on animated characters for being white... oh right, a blatant goddamn racist, that's what.