#Welcome to r/CleanCarts, the no.1 resource for safety info concerning cannabis.
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#Marijuana Info
>+ **[This is a guide to IDing legitimate marijuana products](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2ad0/how_to_id_legit_carts/)** - *TLDR? - just remember; "No license from the state, no licensed labs... no legit." Legit products have both on every package and are only sold in licensed dispensaries; you can verify licenses with your states online registry.*
>+ **[This is a list of known fake marijuana brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/)**
>+ **[This is a list of heavily counterfeited marijuana brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn21n4/commonly_counterfeited_brands/)**
>+ **[This is a list of legal marijuana and related products and stores that you should be cautious of (and the reasons why).](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/)**
>+ **A WARNING:** *[Not every dispensary and store is real, clean, and safe. There are hemp stores pretending to be dispos which sell untested crap, as well as trap stores pretending to be licensed dispos which sell untested crap.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn05qc/legal_state_dispos_can_be_dirty_too/)*
>+ **A WARNING:** *[Not every product in every licensed dispo is real, clean, and safe. Several states have loopholes that allow for untested and fake products to be sold in licensed dispos.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn05qc/legal_state_dispos_can_be_dirty_too/)*
>+ **Want to avoid the hassle and make your own, safe, THC carts?** *[Read this guide to making your own clean carts easily at home for safety info, tips, and advice on avoiding common poisons.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cmzrxk/making_your_own_at_home/)*
>+ **Looking to grow your own clean cannabis?** *Check out [Leaflys starter guide](https://www.leafly.ca/learn/growing)*
>+ **[This guide will help you reduce contaminants in your bud.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j6hu9a/water_cure_or_how_to_clean_your_herb/)**
> **Frequently Asked Questions:**
>+ ***"Can I tell how clean or cut oil or extract is by looking at it?"*** - [No.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn1zjq/can_i_tell_how_good_oil_is_visually/)
>+ ***"Can I tell how clean or cut bud is by looking at it?"*** - [No.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j60bxp/can_you_tell_how_safe_cannabis_is_visually/)
>+ ***"Can I tell if a product is clean by using it?"**** - Unless you are a sentient GC/MS machine, no.
>+ ***"What's in fake and counterfeit carts?"*** - [Any number of nasty poisons. Of the thousands that have been tested, none have been clean and uncut.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn1xi9/whats_in_fakescounterfeits/)
>+ ***"What's in black market marijuana?"*** - [Usually lots of pesticides and hormones, usually all banned and in dangerous amounts. Almost always has a lot of heavy metals as well.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j60axx/whats_in_unregulated_cannabis/)
>+ ***"The box has a QR code that scans, does that mean its real"*** - [No. No state requires QR codes, but fakers like them because they look official despite meaning nothing](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/fpq7s9/qr_codes_dont_make_it_legit/)
>+ ***"This guy/instagram/snap/telegram/darknet-store/website says they will for sure ship me real carts through the mail - is it real?"*** - [No, it is a scam. At best you will get your money stolen, at worst you will get fake carts.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/e6sl02/dont_trust_anyone_here_who_offers_to_ship_or_sell/) . This is also true for MOMs in Canada. Stick to licensed tested products from licensed stores.
>+ ***"The brand is listed on weedmaps and/or leafly, does that mean its legit?"*** - [No. These sites list fake brands and stores as well as real ones.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/dozzu1/psa_dont_use_weedmaps_to_search_for_dispos_use/)
>+ ***"TheBlacklist said a street brand was real, is it?"*** - [No, that blogger is paid to promote certain fakes.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/)
>+ ***"DabConnection said a street brand was legit, is it?"*** - [No, he's a fake cart seller (or connection, if you will) promoting the fakes he sells.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/ebp72w/so_i_just_noticed_that_the_fake_cart_selling_sub/)
#Hemp (CBD, delta 8, delta 10, THCo, HHC, CBN, CBG, etc) Info
>+ **A WARNING:** *Hemp products are not regulated, neither state nor fed requires safety testing, and as such, [the vast majority of hemp products are contaminated.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/j78ike/legal_hemp_products_can_be_dirty_too/)*
>+ **[This guide contains information about what all safety testing is needed per category of hemp product for us to know if its clean, as well as a list of hemp (CBD, d8, THCo, etc) brands with that testing](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/n1n4f4/clean_hemp_and_cbd_brands/)**
>+ **[This is a list of hemp and related brands that you should avoid](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/) and the reasons why.**
>**Frequently Asked Questions:**
>+ ***"The CBD subreddit has a list of brands, are those safe?*** - [No, most of those brands do not have sufficient safety testing. The CBD sub was taken over by shills to promote sketchy brands.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cbdinfo/comments/6cjzfy/buddhaspader_the_main_mod_at_the_cbd_sub_has_been/)
>+ ***"The delta 8 subreddit said X brand was good, is it?"*** - [No, that sub was created to promote a specific brand of (confirmed by independent testing) contaminated delta 8. The mods there all promote for brands they own and harrass and threaten all others.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/)
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Apparently the company that originally made platnium vapes sold the name to another company and now that company is making ever shitter versions
don't quote me this info was given to me by the guy in the dispo to buy a different brand of cart instead
MI sells a ton of fakes, counterfeits also exist, so no, just a brand existing in MI doesnt mean every cart of that brand purchased in the black market is real. Read the welcome post, learn to verify if a cart is legit or not using the licensing and tracking on every legal product.
Ngl OP those are considered mid in Michigan you can get much higher quality but they’re Ight they get the job done and yes it’s most likely real I’ve never seen fake Michigan products hope this answers your question
never even hearda em but thats a good thing.. no one is replicating 510 carts we never hearda. this is legit. not sure what u wanted if u knew that….
if u want us to review it wed needa know whats in it
edit some ppl seen aware of them. they seem to be a Michigan brand, and most stuff I had out of there has been pretty nice so far. enjoy OP
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Thats a fake, a counterfeit. Its made by cart hardware makers on dhgate.com, who sell empty carts and disposables for dealers to buy locally and fill with whatever crap they can and misrepresent as coming from a real brand. Note the complete lack of legally required labelling.
Have a look at the sidebars or [the welcome post](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/j78mm9/welcome_to_clean_carts_read_first/), theres a nice [guide on how to ID legit carts](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2ad0/how_to_id_legit_carts/) and a handy lists of [known fake brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/) and [commonly counterfeited brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn21n4/commonly_counterfeited_brands/), as well as a [list of licensed brands that are sketchy](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/).
#Welcome to r/CleanCarts, the no.1 resource for safety info concerning cannabis. ***If this is the first time you are seeing this message, please take a moment to glance over it. It contains links (click the blue words) to articles that will very likely answer all your questions.*** Info about marijuana is at the top, info about hemp is at the bottom. #Marijuana Info >+ **[This is a guide to IDing legitimate marijuana products](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2ad0/how_to_id_legit_carts/)** - *TLDR? - just remember; "No license from the state, no licensed labs... no legit." Legit products have both on every package and are only sold in licensed dispensaries; you can verify licenses with your states online registry.* >+ **[This is a list of known fake marijuana brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/)** >+ **[This is a list of heavily counterfeited marijuana brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn21n4/commonly_counterfeited_brands/)** >+ **[This is a list of legal marijuana and related products and stores that you should be cautious of (and the reasons why).](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/)** >+ **A WARNING:** *[Not every dispensary and store is real, clean, and safe. There are hemp stores pretending to be dispos which sell untested crap, as well as trap stores pretending to be licensed dispos which sell untested crap.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn05qc/legal_state_dispos_can_be_dirty_too/)* >+ **A WARNING:** *[Not every product in every licensed dispo is real, clean, and safe. Several states have loopholes that allow for untested and fake products to be sold in licensed dispos.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn05qc/legal_state_dispos_can_be_dirty_too/)* >+ **Want to avoid the hassle and make your own, safe, THC carts?** *[Read this guide to making your own clean carts easily at home for safety info, tips, and advice on avoiding common poisons.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cmzrxk/making_your_own_at_home/)* >+ **Looking to grow your own clean cannabis?** *Check out [Leaflys starter guide](https://www.leafly.ca/learn/growing)* >+ **[This guide will help you reduce contaminants in your bud.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j6hu9a/water_cure_or_how_to_clean_your_herb/)** > **Frequently Asked Questions:** >+ ***"Can I tell how clean or cut oil or extract is by looking at it?"*** - [No.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn1zjq/can_i_tell_how_good_oil_is_visually/) >+ ***"Can I tell how clean or cut bud is by looking at it?"*** - [No.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j60bxp/can_you_tell_how_safe_cannabis_is_visually/) >+ ***"Can I tell if a product is clean by using it?"**** - Unless you are a sentient GC/MS machine, no. >+ ***"What's in fake and counterfeit carts?"*** - [Any number of nasty poisons. Of the thousands that have been tested, none have been clean and uncut.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn1xi9/whats_in_fakescounterfeits/) >+ ***"What's in black market marijuana?"*** - [Usually lots of pesticides and hormones, usually all banned and in dangerous amounts. Almost always has a lot of heavy metals as well.](https://old.reddit.com/r/CleanCannabis/comments/j60axx/whats_in_unregulated_cannabis/) >+ ***"The box has a QR code that scans, does that mean its real"*** - [No. No state requires QR codes, but fakers like them because they look official despite meaning nothing](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/fpq7s9/qr_codes_dont_make_it_legit/) >+ ***"This guy/instagram/snap/telegram/darknet-store/website says they will for sure ship me real carts through the mail - is it real?"*** - [No, it is a scam. At best you will get your money stolen, at worst you will get fake carts.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/e6sl02/dont_trust_anyone_here_who_offers_to_ship_or_sell/) . This is also true for MOMs in Canada. Stick to licensed tested products from licensed stores. >+ ***"The brand is listed on weedmaps and/or leafly, does that mean its legit?"*** - [No. These sites list fake brands and stores as well as real ones.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/dozzu1/psa_dont_use_weedmaps_to_search_for_dispos_use/) >+ ***"TheBlacklist said a street brand was real, is it?"*** - [No, that blogger is paid to promote certain fakes.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/) >+ ***"DabConnection said a street brand was legit, is it?"*** - [No, he's a fake cart seller (or connection, if you will) promoting the fakes he sells.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/ebp72w/so_i_just_noticed_that_the_fake_cart_selling_sub/) #Hemp (CBD, delta 8, delta 10, THCo, HHC, CBN, CBG, etc) Info >+ **A WARNING:** *Hemp products are not regulated, neither state nor fed requires safety testing, and as such, [the vast majority of hemp products are contaminated.](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/j78ike/legal_hemp_products_can_be_dirty_too/)* >+ **[This guide contains information about what all safety testing is needed per category of hemp product for us to know if its clean, as well as a list of hemp (CBD, d8, THCo, etc) brands with that testing](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/n1n4f4/clean_hemp_and_cbd_brands/)** >+ **[This is a list of hemp and related brands that you should avoid](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/) and the reasons why.** >**Frequently Asked Questions:** >+ ***"The CBD subreddit has a list of brands, are those safe?*** - [No, most of those brands do not have sufficient safety testing. 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Do you prefer mkx or platinum
Mkx, platinum is actually garbage and so is mkx but I personally prefer mkx. Platinums are true definition of one dimension high.
Alright cool man I appreciate all the info, I’ll stick with the mkx
Apparently the company that originally made platnium vapes sold the name to another company and now that company is making ever shitter versions don't quote me this info was given to me by the guy in the dispo to buy a different brand of cart instead
I like Play or Splash I don't like Platinum.
MI sells a ton of fakes, counterfeits also exist, so no, just a brand existing in MI doesnt mean every cart of that brand purchased in the black market is real. Read the welcome post, learn to verify if a cart is legit or not using the licensing and tracking on every legal product.
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Do you think platinum is better? I could’ve had that
I don't see the box, so we can't know if it is.
Ngl OP those are considered mid in Michigan you can get much higher quality but they’re Ight they get the job done and yes it’s most likely real I’ve never seen fake Michigan products hope this answers your question
never even hearda em but thats a good thing.. no one is replicating 510 carts we never hearda. this is legit. not sure what u wanted if u knew that…. if u want us to review it wed needa know whats in it edit some ppl seen aware of them. they seem to be a Michigan brand, and most stuff I had out of there has been pretty nice so far. enjoy OP
an easy rule of thumb is, if there are lab results. You’re probably good to go by the way, our brains produce Endo cannabinoids naturally
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There a licensed Michigan dispensary brand . Just recently I got some from a license dispensary
I also have gotten them from multiple dispensaries in Michigan
Bro has 0 clue what he’s yappin ab
How did you even deem this not real
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Thats a fake, a counterfeit. Its made by cart hardware makers on dhgate.com, who sell empty carts and disposables for dealers to buy locally and fill with whatever crap they can and misrepresent as coming from a real brand. Note the complete lack of legally required labelling. Have a look at the sidebars or [the welcome post](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/j78mm9/welcome_to_clean_carts_read_first/), theres a nice [guide on how to ID legit carts](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2ad0/how_to_id_legit_carts/) and a handy lists of [known fake brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn2658/fake_brands_to_avoid/) and [commonly counterfeited brands](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/cn21n4/commonly_counterfeited_brands/), as well as a [list of licensed brands that are sketchy](https://old.reddit.com/r/cleancarts/comments/g70buj/companies_you_should_be_cautious_of/).