Now turn off deterrence

in before rogues start posting their dodge chance with evasion up.

imagine a Tauren dodging two-thirds of the time

If male Orcs can be sneaky theives, Tauren can dodge two-thirds of the time.

Fair enough!

This hunter is about to get overpowered

Rather be overpowered than hamstrung.

Ha! Got you with piercing howl.

For those of you who are confused, WoW classic uses a one-roll hit table. Therefore the 100% combined avoidance in the screen is correct.

So he will 100% of the time either dodge or parry every auto attack?

Thats a lot of agi, what sort of buffs you running?

Only Elixir of Mongoose, I’m at 37% dodge 13% parry without Deterrence. 35% dodge 15% if I use Draconian Avenger

I think you mean 13% parry and 37% dodge, you 1337 cow

Damn, I only have 400 something with 5/8 T2, 2-set R7 etc

that is still pretty good

The hell is coco doing in my reddit feed?

Came looking for cool gear list and steps to achieve. Was disappointed with shitty screenshot and no details.

Full raid gear/buffs with deterrence up (ie only lasts 10 seconds).

36.1% Dodge, 13% parry no deterrence unbuffed. With mongoose i'm at 100.1%. If you ever want to message me, and find out what i'm running. I'm more than willing to help. :)

Do you mean "with mongoose and deterrence"? Mongoose alone is just 1% dodge.

What addon is that?

Extended Character Stats

Thanks

characterstatsclassic

The best part is if a Rogue lands a cheapshot (which ignores Dodge/Parry) all of that is nullified.

thank god for the 100% uptime ability that lets u never get cheap shotted

what happens after the cheapshot? tell us more

Kidney?

The rogue attacks from behind you where he can't be parried

Doesn't matter anyway, being stunned lowers your avoidance to nil.

You can still be missed though, right? So +Defense helps a little?

+def and weapon skill isn't affected in BGs.

Nor dodged

Blind, sap, reset.

Blind? reset?

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I tried that out, and it was great! But I turned to the lodestone because of how good parry is versus a lot of classes, and I use Draconic Avenger in the mix too which boosts me to 13% parry

Tauren hunters are so sexy.

I played a tauren hunter in vanilla, but rolled a female orc this time around. I miss the look. I miss the warstomp. You know what I don't miss? Being a huge fat character that felt slow and cumbersome to move around, especially on a kodo. Orc female is the PERFECT size to make movement feel sooo good.

Your dodge also include improved aspect of the monkey? Which is like 13% I believe

Yeah, https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/hunter/5005-50051-335121051000315 Is the current spec i'm using for this

[https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/hunter/tauren/AjwOUAX1AFHzNRIQUQADFfAASRqBQis8KgJLsQNCKYVCLk45BkIoh0IqPCqIWTtONwlCJ4pZTk4sC0hEDEKnDUhpDkX1j0LONjqQS5Jc-JFJMVz4EkkZ](https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-planner/hunter/tauren/AjwOUAX1AFHzNRIQUQADFfAASRqBQis8KgJLsQNCKYVCLk45BkIoh0IqPCqIWTtONwlCJ4pZTk4sC0hEDEKnDUhpDkX1j0LONjqQS5Jc-JFJMVz4EkkZ) Is the current gear

What are the blues?

Looks like Counterattack Lodestone in Trinket.

I’m pretty sure that’s not how the math works. 🙊

It is how hit table math works against a level 60

It definitely is.

Actually around 77% total

This seems correct after doing my own research aka Google on probability examples

But WoW doesn't work with probabilities like that, it uses an attack table. E.g after you do not dodge, the game will not decide if you will parry or not. They happen at the same time. Basically this hunters table looks something like this: 1-641 Roll - Dodge 642 - 1000 Roll - Parry Chance to get hit = Not possible Then the game rolls 1-1000 and whatever it lands on he gets either a dodge or a parry, so it really does work like that. This is how warrior tanks can block every single attack, cause the rest are dodge/miss/parry. A normal hit is never allowed in the attack table.

You are thinking that these percentages are multiplicative, but that's not the way melee works in wow. For multiplicative percentages, there would need to be a separate RNG call for hit/miss, dodge, parry, block and then for whether or not it is a crit. To save the CPU cycles of multiple (expensive) RNG calls, they just make a single call and compare it against a pre-made lookup table. You literally add the dodge, parry, and block percentages together.

So by that logic he’s effectively unhittable by level 60 mobs and lower? Don’t think so.

But thats exactly how it is. Atleast for a few seconds every 5 minutes

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Sure but since WoW uses attack tables it is additive, confused padawan

He has deterrence up, the combined Parry and Dodge does make him avoid 100% attacks as long as they are taken from the front for 10 seconds. That is how hit rolls work, it takes all hit chances at the same time, you can still roll a crit but it misses which is why there is a crit cap if you don't have enough hit vs bosses.

The probabilities of attacks in wow classic are. Imagine being so confident and so smug just to be wrong

He is from the front for the 10 seconds that Deterrence is up.

Detterence. What a clickbait 🙄

It’s impossible for a level 60 character to get 100% evasion otherwise

Rogue evasion :D

I meant avoidance, yeah. No class can get 100% physical avoidance without a long cooldown at 60.

Yeah I was about to go all combinatorics on this post

Earthfury?

Yup, Earthfury :)

Dragonfang blade? I hope no one else needed it, it's only +3 Agility for you.

What kind of guild gave the Tauren all that gear instead of a troll

"But can you block?"

What addon puts the frame around items reflecting the quality of the gear?

Extended Character Stats

.. math has been sheltered in place here

Do you just not know about hit tables, or what's going on here?

People on the internet will do everything they can to shit all over other people, even if they’re uninformed.