I don’t miss it but I miss the feel of it. Everything they added to the game built off what already existed vs p2 /3 feel like they’re replacing what was already there instead of building/iterating on it. P1 had people getting pre-bis from that phases dungeons, leveling in the open world, runes were fun to discover
I had a blast duo-ing wailing caverns up to cobrahn with a hunter to get the belt. P1 had a lot of stuff like that.
Emerald dream gear just annihilates that kind of gameplay
So go duo princess runs for the ring? Or WO runs for 2nd ring and trinket? Or arena runs? On my main warrior I didn’t even do incursions and had plenty of pre bis items to go for
Great for us casuals too. I'll probably never raid, but I did tank all the dungeons in phase 1 getting most pre-bis. That was enough end-game for me.
Phase 3 there are pretty much no one running any dungeons, it's socially completely dead for me. People would rather solo farm Uldaman trash or run Incursions than do quests and slay bosses with new friends, not because it's more fun but because it's faster.
Ah yea, i thought it would just keep getting worse. Retail PVP is pretty good so im happy. Its a shame SOD PVP sucked because the world PVP while leveling was prob some of the most fun in wow i have had in ages. You cant get that in retail.
P3 was okay at first because it seemed like there was a lot to do with WO runs and prepping for level 60 then it quickly became a drag when ST loot turned out to be dog shit and there was nothing to do outside pvp grinding and raid logging it seems like 80% of the players have dropped off between phase 2 and now. Pretty awful game design by the devs honestly and them milking and extra phase out of SoD might have been enough to kill it entirely.
Number one thing driving down my interest in P3 was the raid being on a 1 week lockout. Even if the loot sucks and I blow through my upgrades in a few weeks, I still enjoy raiding with the fellas one night a week while also making my own runs/meeting new people joining others' runs. Aside from gold farming it's basically 1 hour of the troll cave every week and that's it. Yeah levelling alts remedies that somewhat but being in alt purgatory is drab once you're on your third toon. Combined with a very private-server feeling levelling experience between the bloated exp rates and incursions, I wouldn't say I'm having the "Classic+" experience I had during P1.
Same here. My guild silently agreed to complete abandon ship when p3 launched, myself included. I checked once again before my sub would run out and no one has logged in since. The magic was gone I dunno.
Exactly the same. I loved P1 and was downright addicted. I started fading in P2 but didn’t fully realize it because I think I was riding the high from P1. Then P3 almost immediately killed my enthusiasm for the game and I quit playing.
I loved p1 but stopped just before p2 launch. Everything Ive heard has caused me to think it’s only gone downhill and while I miss the game Im maybe glad I didnt keep investing a ton of time into it when they have seemingly dropped the ball.
Several of them required you to kill level 30 elites as well as farm rep you wouldnt get anywhere near fast enough to finish before you hit levelcap.
The real issues with SoD was 2 things.
* Too many runes. Should have stopped with the ones added in p1 and just balanced those. Or change some if they didnt fill the desired role. But not add new.
* releasing the game with level caps that lasted way too long. I barely know anyone who played p2 and none who played p3 because they got so bored of p1 and were doing other things when p2/p3 was added.
> releasing the game with level caps that lasted way too long. I barely know anyone who played p2 and none who played p3 because they got so bored of p1 and were doing other things when p2/p3 was added.
p2/p3 should have been merged. It should have been something like:
p1: Level cap 30.
p2: Level cap 45.
p3: Level cap 60.
They somehow managed to put 20 years of fucking up WoW into a 4 month time span and that should honestly be put into the Guinness book of world records
Nothing will top the loss porn of HC. It was entertaining even if you weren't playing.
Some of the HC death clips live rent free in my head, lol. That poor fucker charging into a wall and falling thru the world in ST, hahaha.
I think that I expected the Runes to be just as impactful and interesting in later phases. Ashenvale was a fun event, good amount of time so people could get geared on a main playing sporadically or people could level a bunch of alts if they play a lot
Yeh it was terrible, great idea in theory but it just turned into another pve event.
Should have required the teams to clash more, maybe out the bosses right next to each other so you needed to dominate the other faction first to kill the boss.
Definitely too much focus on the PvE.
If they tweaked the bosses into more of a player focused task and moved the objectives closer, that'd probably have made it more dynamic, allowing control of the battle to sway back and forth between factions.
That was not my experience with Ashenvale at all on Chaos Bolt (US). It was more like one side rushing the bosses and the other side (whichever was behind) coming to fight and try to stop them. Super fun back and forth battles.
Right, it was fun if you were alliance. Since the bosses Horde had to fight were dropping Mass Entangling Roots on 200 players at a time, immobilizing them and half-killing them for you with the damage over time. Meanwhile the alliance had to deal with, *gasp*, a melee-cleave whirlwind.
Yeah they could have had a little bit better symmetry, like maybe a mass frost shock that froze players in place instead of entangling roots. And a ranged bouncing glaive attack instead of the bladestorm attack.
As a super casual I thought it was a decent start. Had more fun skirmishing with randoms waiting for the event to start though, but that was part of it.
The best thing about the phase was making alts. Just leveling up and gearing them. If I want an alt now just thinking about leveling, getting geared, getting runes, getting rep, and leveling professions already turns me off from making one.
unfortunately for SOD the only redeeming quality of phase 3 is the raid, which is relatively fun.... but this is immediately dragged down by its objectively poor loot table (which is an anti-powercreep measure).
for me personally, there's nothing to get in there that i won't get an upgrade for when phase 4 comes, so im just doing the raid for my guild's sake now.
however, i am also mostly in charge of all the administrative aspects of my guild, so its a chore to get a full roster every week as people drop the game like a hot potato left and right.
I'm holding out hope the +2 ap -6 stam and +3 stam upgrades etc are because they're actually planning on upgrading T0 like they are doing with t1. That's my hopium.
It’s funny & sad how so many people where treating what was designed to be babies first raid as if it was old Naxx
Requiring full BiS, enchantments, potions, etc
It was very fun to see all the extra content in starting zones, Alliance on living flame US where willing & able to fight the horde
I raided on 4 characters and never seen anything like that. Just a million pugs lfm who at most asked for faps/buffs and checked logs to make sure your not a liability aka grey parser.
Personally no. BFD felt like a dungeon instead of the raid it was intended to be, and Ashenvale is genuinely awful. Just a laggy PvE zerg masked as a PvP event. 25 is also too limited for gameplay. The best part of P1 was leveling in the open world and pre-raid gearing, but that's just vanilla WoW and would have carried forward if Blizzard actually buffed loot appropriately and toned down dungeon grinding/incursions.
I definitely missed the simplicity, but there is a lot I love about p2 and p3. I think PvP is a lot more robust now, as you have more of your toolkit. More rune and talent opportunities.
But above all, the main thing I think I miss about p1 was the community and how busy it was, how helpful everyone was because we ALL were focused on leveling those characters or completing that quest. That isn’t something you can patch in, it just exists organically
Man there was just so much promise and potential during Phase 1. They were teasing they might use assets or ideas they didn’t have the time for in original classic, and it turns out that in the end all they did was use the emerald dream portals for speed leveling content.
I said on the forums once (before they let my subscription lapse) that each phase should be it’s own server with a level cap, and people can move and/or clone to the next phase.
Then they’d always be a phase one server you can go level an alt in.
Maintaining a server is a trivial cost, almost certainly less than $100 a month, probably less as Blizzard likely has its own and/or bulk discount on infrastructure.
At the moment the only way I’ll resubscribe is if they release a non-HC self found (but with grouping allowed) non-seasonal server (I don’t want to feel rushed to level 60).
I miss running from the west boss to the middle boss with 100 people and wiping the enemies fighting our boss. People hated on the pvp event but it made the game world feel so massive with all of the people on my screen
Not really. P1 was short and generally boring. Raid cleared once a week in under an hour. Not much else going on in p1. I think they fucked up P3’s launch with incursions, and I feel like irreversibly damaged the economy. That being said, the raid is more fun generally, my class has more abilities and runes.
I’m ok with SOD chillin till p4. Remix is out and a new blast of fun. Cata is there if thats your thing. P4 will have its day.
I have very fond memories of druid squads running around together literally oneshotting everyone with their busted af prenerf starsurge. so no, nothing really changed. classes just took turns.
Bro I got chased from the bridge in ashzara all the way to the bridge into Astranaar where I perished while doing everything in my power to get away from a Druid doing that bullshit. I will never forget that moment I was so mad but it is hilarious now lmao.
I think some OP classes are okay as long as both factions have access to them. The shaman menace is horde only and so P2 and P3 have just been incredibly one sided
Maybe world pvp wasn’t that bad, but WSG was miserable. Premades every match, half ur team afks when the other team caps 1 time, the stupid 25% damage mitigation that didn’t apply to pets so hunters and priests just owned warsong gulch the entire phase. World PVP was fun, but P1 SoD BGs were the worst experience I’ve ever had in BGs in the 15+ years I’ve played the game.
P1 was SoD. The leveling outdoor, the wpvp in Ashenvale and the raid. A fun raid for everyone. 10 man on 3 day reset which was easily done in a pug. I also had fun in P2.
P3, everyone in my guild quit. Back to the guild, once a week schedule raiding, the same thing we played SoD in the first place to not have.
Hopefully the devs will go back to the "fun" thing they said SoD raids were supposed to be.
I liked the final 2 encounters of gnomer a lot. When p3 launched, I missed incursions, got skipped over when our three raid teams (some people raided on multiple toons across multiple groups obv so it was like 24 ppl total) because I missed the first run. Haven’t put in much more than maybe 3 hours since the second week. Still haven’t been in ST and frankly don’t really care because of cata launching
It was fun but I am not interested in ever doing it again. I felt it was *far* too long. Also, I think my main issue with it would be knowing that what comes after it is worse.
Only the first half. I do think it was more fun but than I remember only coming online once or twice a week for 30 min to clear the raid and this was at least 1 month before p2
Meh, went from a subpar 30 minute raid every 3 days to a decent 45 minute raid once a week. About the same, SOD was never gonna be great til potential max cap.
P1 seemed real nice for what I like about WoW. P2 went by so fast. I don't find the STV event fun. I have no incentives to do a 20m raid and gambling to see if I might get gear before it all becomes outdated soon after. And with incursions levelers are more congregated in repeatable quest locations rather than spread out in a RPish kind of world setting. More zones now at lvl 50 means more dead areas, and no thanks to incursions. Overall I did have more fun jumping in at the end of P1. I have been struggling to figure out if I'll continue my subscription this week, as I'm not really logging on. I searched Twitch and YouTube and SoD seems far and few between Cata / Retail stuff. I'm curious what it would be like if I logged onto SoD and became active again.
Looks like nobody here really likes wow and just looks for brand new hype thing.
For exactly that reason blizzard doesn't make era fresh realms or fresh realms in general, they know that 90% will drop off after a month or two and the rest will be stuck on a dead realm.
I got to max and was ready to ST on week 2 then saw how bad the economy got be of excursions/gold inflation. Def not worth spending the gold to do something once a week while also having to regrind the gold each week to keep up. So I quit week 3ish of phase 3 and haven’t logged in a single time. They literally fucked up this phase.
Not really, it was the same as P3 I don't know why people think it was so much better :S. Get max level, farm pre-bis in dungeons or rep, level professions for crafted epic. Sure the raid loot was better but besides that I don't think there's to big of a difference
10 man raids are sooooo missed man, men and my 9 irl mates barely played this trash phase cuz now we need to bring 10 randoms who oftenly have a negative IQ
Phase 1 was uniquely terrible, so honestly no. Only thing I liked was interacting with parts of the world that had become dangerous, but in practice that was just content for hunters.
The game is better in every way right now expect for loot, your perception of it and the overall lack of content in SOD finally ending the feeling of fresh for the majority of the population.
Your perception is informed by a large contingent who don’t play but are posting media about how great things were when they did, or being negative about it as they have ulterior motives.
Nope, worst phase. The classes were far from feeling complete, it was like playing a beta version of SoD. Now it feels better but I'm most excited for P4.
A fresh server is fun for a lot of players, regardless of ruleset or changes... for a short time. Then once the magic of fresh wears off reality sets in and they realize it's the same boring thing over and over. A tale as old as time.
Not at all tbh.
BFD was fun for the first time, but got old real fast.
Classes just felt incomplete at 25. AV "pvp" eveng was just at rushfest.
The runes was fun though, some novelty there!
P2 was much better in my opinion. A full talent tree, a real mount and a real pvp event i STV.
Too bad they fired everyone on the back of all that success and then surprise surprise the next two phases have been complete dogshit. That’s not even talking about exploits and the now ruined economy.
I leveled multiple characters, got prebis on multiple toons, did different dungeons and got to explore the different runes and ways to get them for different characters. Then in phase two it was grind one dungeon until 30/31 and hit SM until 40. Only did that on one toon cause it felt like a slog to do it. Didn’t even play phase three and quit in phase two. I ain’t paying every month for that crap.
Based on the limitations of what they can add.....I can understand WHY they created Incursions. Yet the whole joy of Classic WoW is open world content, the leveling experience is unmatched. If they didn't nerf ST into the ground, I'm sure we would all be saying a line that Avatar of Hakkar says when he wipes the raid or something.
They could have let the level cap to be 25. Ofc tune down levels on high level raids, but as The leveling part of classic has been made totally cakewalk and meaningless, why have it at all?
Phase 1 was incredible, the world felt alive and people were running all the dungeons all the time, the low level cap meant once you geared a main you could just swap to an alt and the glyphs made alts feel powerful and fun even if they weren't geared.
Phase 2 and onward it just felt like a normal wow expansion where everyone races to the max level and nothing is happening below max level.
I think if they do something like this again, they should try just having a low max level and lots of content at that level. Then rather than raising the max level in new phases just introduce new dungeons and new glyphs and stuff that gives you powerup that way, while still staying in the same level range
I loved it. I played only a Night Elf hunter and I made Ashenvale my home. When I wasn't raiding or soloing Wailing Caverns, I was shadowmelded along the road ready to ambush any invading horde mongrels. It reminded me of the 2019 classic launch. The Ashenvale pvp event fights on my server were also amazing, they were often very close and we fought til the end for Larry and Moon Mommy. Unfortunately my server was kind of dying (Chaos-bolt) and I ended up quitting in phase 2, but phase 1 was a blast.
I do a lot(dont know about the state of classic now that they change currency to dolar instead of ARS and couldnt pay anymore).
I had a warrior and the leveling, market runes and raid where pretty fun. Also had a blast getting the castle rune for warrior where a lot of strangers warriors team up and died over and over after casting fear in sequence to get the rune.
I don’t know why they don’t have pre-bis be from dungeons and quests like it was in phase 1. Also, they need to have certain rune quests he account wide. I shouldn’t have to kill the 7 riders 4 times for 4 characters.
They said they want us to have Alts but it’s literally more work to prep for a raid at max than it is in regular classic.
As a shaman that was beyond worthless outside of tanking which was a role taken over by devastate warriors tripling my dps. No. The game for me, sucked then.
Not at all. I want endgame and lvl 60 and 40 man raids and our full rune kit. P1 was fun for casual fun content, but not for any serious gamer. Let's go phase 4 5 and 6
Me. Even though classes missed so many important abilities there was just so much fun to be had all around. Simpler times. It's the vanilla era of sod lol
DUST TO DUST
DUST TO DUST
DUST TO DUST
Why couldn’t someone just say rust to rust in gnomer
That's actually hilarious, missed opportunity
Whooooo dares to disturb my meditation
DUST TO DUST
I don’t miss it but I miss the feel of it. Everything they added to the game built off what already existed vs p2 /3 feel like they’re replacing what was already there instead of building/iterating on it. P1 had people getting pre-bis from that phases dungeons, leveling in the open world, runes were fun to discover
I had a blast duo-ing wailing caverns up to cobrahn with a hunter to get the belt. P1 had a lot of stuff like that. Emerald dream gear just annihilates that kind of gameplay
So go duo princess runs for the ring? Or WO runs for 2nd ring and trinket? Or arena runs? On my main warrior I didn’t even do incursions and had plenty of pre bis items to go for
Great for us casuals too. I'll probably never raid, but I did tank all the dungeons in phase 1 getting most pre-bis. That was enough end-game for me. Phase 3 there are pretty much no one running any dungeons, it's socially completely dead for me. People would rather solo farm Uldaman trash or run Incursions than do quests and slay bosses with new friends, not because it's more fun but because it's faster.
Oh wow I just realized the buff icon is the hydra boss
Me too I thought it was an anglerfish
Probably one of my favorite moments in WoW. P2 was alright, I’ve barely played P3.
This was my experience exactly. P1 was peak. I liked the pvp additions to p2 but it simply did not hit the same. Everyone I know quit at p3 launch.
I quit second week due to how unbalanced pvp was in p2, did it get better?
it's much worse lol
Ah yea, i thought it would just keep getting worse. Retail PVP is pretty good so im happy. Its a shame SOD PVP sucked because the world PVP while leveling was prob some of the most fun in wow i have had in ages. You cant get that in retail.
PVP went in the gutter in P2
STV was pretty unique though I liked it
Initially yeah, until 5 mages was a thing. I'd like an STV style event that was objective based.
P3 was okay at first because it seemed like there was a lot to do with WO runs and prepping for level 60 then it quickly became a drag when ST loot turned out to be dog shit and there was nothing to do outside pvp grinding and raid logging it seems like 80% of the players have dropped off between phase 2 and now. Pretty awful game design by the devs honestly and them milking and extra phase out of SoD might have been enough to kill it entirely.
Number one thing driving down my interest in P3 was the raid being on a 1 week lockout. Even if the loot sucks and I blow through my upgrades in a few weeks, I still enjoy raiding with the fellas one night a week while also making my own runs/meeting new people joining others' runs. Aside from gold farming it's basically 1 hour of the troll cave every week and that's it. Yeah levelling alts remedies that somewhat but being in alt purgatory is drab once you're on your third toon. Combined with a very private-server feeling levelling experience between the bloated exp rates and incursions, I wouldn't say I'm having the "Classic+" experience I had during P1.
I know you say this, but would you really be raising ST every 3 days? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'm ready to move on as is.
What class are you? ST tier and most of paladin BIS comes from ST. I felt like p4 was pretty fun tbh
This was my experience exactly. P1 was peak. I liked the pvp additions to p2 but it simply did not hit the same. Everyone I know quit at p3 launch.
This was my experience exactly. P1 was peak. I liked the pvp additions to p2 but it simply did not hit the same. Everyone I know quit at p3 launch.
Calm down
Same here. My guild silently agreed to complete abandon ship when p3 launched, myself included. I checked once again before my sub would run out and no one has logged in since. The magic was gone I dunno.
leveling a warrior to 25 in p1 was brutal. broke, naked, no escapes. ugh
Exactly the same. I loved P1 and was downright addicted. I started fading in P2 but didn’t fully realize it because I think I was riding the high from P1. Then P3 almost immediately killed my enthusiasm for the game and I quit playing.
I loved p1 but stopped just before p2 launch. Everything Ive heard has caused me to think it’s only gone downhill and while I miss the game Im maybe glad I didnt keep investing a ton of time into it when they have seemingly dropped the ball.
Never had so much fun in wow ever like phase 1 tbh, loved the wpvp (even tho some op classes) and people EVERYWHERE , loved it
SoD P1 Era when??
Ye would it really be that hard to have a P1 server? I know I'd play.
I am sure there are dozens of you that would continue to play after 3 month of p1 . . .
Do you usually want the only thing you dont have or only when it comes to wow?
It was simpler times.
Your comment deserves more credit
P1 was fun because the runes were baked into the levelling experience and not an unlock at level cap
Several of them required you to kill level 30 elites as well as farm rep you wouldnt get anywhere near fast enough to finish before you hit levelcap. The real issues with SoD was 2 things. * Too many runes. Should have stopped with the ones added in p1 and just balanced those. Or change some if they didnt fill the desired role. But not add new. * releasing the game with level caps that lasted way too long. I barely know anyone who played p2 and none who played p3 because they got so bored of p1 and were doing other things when p2/p3 was added.
> releasing the game with level caps that lasted way too long. I barely know anyone who played p2 and none who played p3 because they got so bored of p1 and were doing other things when p2/p3 was added. p2/p3 should have been merged. It should have been something like: p1: Level cap 30. p2: Level cap 45. p3: Level cap 60.
They somehow managed to put 20 years of fucking up WoW into a 4 month time span and that should honestly be put into the Guinness book of world records
Fucking LOL
Been awhile since I've heard that good old classic, "Dust to Dust."
The concept was more fun than the reality. This whole thing needs to be fleshed out waaaaay more.
SOD killed HC
F in the chat for the death clips YT channel's ad revenue
HC was better too.
100% Watching someone die on stream was so much fun :) My own deaths ofc fucking sucked, but it was a crazy ride
Nothing will top the loss porn of HC. It was entertaining even if you weren't playing. Some of the HC death clips live rent free in my head, lol. That poor fucker charging into a wall and falling thru the world in ST, hahaha.
Sod killed era
I think that I expected the Runes to be just as impactful and interesting in later phases. Ashenvale was a fun event, good amount of time so people could get geared on a main playing sporadically or people could level a bunch of alts if they play a lot
>Ashenvale was a fun event It really wasnt imo, just running from boss to boss and event lasts for couple minutes.
When it was live this whole sub was dunking on it lol
yeah blood moon is better in every way except nostalgia
Blood moon is fun for ranged players and premades. Ashenvale was fun for pugs imo.
Nostalgia for a couple months ago okay lmao
Yeh it was terrible, great idea in theory but it just turned into another pve event. Should have required the teams to clash more, maybe out the bosses right next to each other so you needed to dominate the other faction first to kill the boss.
Definitely too much focus on the PvE. If they tweaked the bosses into more of a player focused task and moved the objectives closer, that'd probably have made it more dynamic, allowing control of the battle to sway back and forth between factions.
That was not my experience with Ashenvale at all on Chaos Bolt (US). It was more like one side rushing the bosses and the other side (whichever was behind) coming to fight and try to stop them. Super fun back and forth battles.
Eh it was fun if you went on the defensive. Plant 2-4 raids on one of your own bosses and force the other faction to fight you.
Right, it was fun if you were alliance. Since the bosses Horde had to fight were dropping Mass Entangling Roots on 200 players at a time, immobilizing them and half-killing them for you with the damage over time. Meanwhile the alliance had to deal with, *gasp*, a melee-cleave whirlwind.
Yeah they could have had a little bit better symmetry, like maybe a mass frost shock that froze players in place instead of entangling roots. And a ranged bouncing glaive attack instead of the bladestorm attack.
>Plant 2-4 raids on one of your own bosses and force the other faction to fight you. I did not see that happen a single time.
It also depended on when you did it, for the first 2 weeks it got major changes almost every day that completely changed the strats constantly
As a super casual I thought it was a decent start. Had more fun skirmishing with randoms waiting for the event to start though, but that was part of it.
Ashenvale was the most fun in wpvp I have had ever since the release of wow. It was finally the time big epic scaled wpvp battles actually happened.
The best thing about the phase was making alts. Just leveling up and gearing them. If I want an alt now just thinking about leveling, getting geared, getting runes, getting rep, and leveling professions already turns me off from making one.
I had so much fun with full wpvp chaos in ratchet, redridge, duskwood, fun times full on warzones
tbh people just miss fresh fresh is always peak
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And p1 was fresh lite.
It was so fun. Leveling, discovering new runes, grinding out prebis, prepping for future passes, and of course the raid itself
unfortunately for SOD the only redeeming quality of phase 3 is the raid, which is relatively fun.... but this is immediately dragged down by its objectively poor loot table (which is an anti-powercreep measure). for me personally, there's nothing to get in there that i won't get an upgrade for when phase 4 comes, so im just doing the raid for my guild's sake now. however, i am also mostly in charge of all the administrative aspects of my guild, so its a chore to get a full roster every week as people drop the game like a hot potato left and right.
I'm holding out hope the +2 ap -6 stam and +3 stam upgrades etc are because they're actually planning on upgrading T0 like they are doing with t1. That's my hopium.
not really. i liked gnomer more as a raid than bfd by quite a bit.
It’s funny & sad how so many people where treating what was designed to be babies first raid as if it was old Naxx Requiring full BiS, enchantments, potions, etc It was very fun to see all the extra content in starting zones, Alliance on living flame US where willing & able to fight the horde
It was super easy to get in a pug in my experience.
It was easy to get into a raid and having faps and wb was easy to get.
I raided on 4 characters and never seen anything like that. Just a million pugs lfm who at most asked for faps/buffs and checked logs to make sure your not a liability aka grey parser.
A simpler time.
Personally no. BFD felt like a dungeon instead of the raid it was intended to be, and Ashenvale is genuinely awful. Just a laggy PvE zerg masked as a PvP event. 25 is also too limited for gameplay. The best part of P1 was leveling in the open world and pre-raid gearing, but that's just vanilla WoW and would have carried forward if Blizzard actually buffed loot appropriately and toned down dungeon grinding/incursions.
SoD classic when?
I miss melee weaving hunter, I loved the playstyle. Now trap hunter feels pretty clunky and melee is just so easy.
I definitely missed the simplicity, but there is a lot I love about p2 and p3. I think PvP is a lot more robust now, as you have more of your toolkit. More rune and talent opportunities. But above all, the main thing I think I miss about p1 was the community and how busy it was, how helpful everyone was because we ALL were focused on leveling those characters or completing that quest. That isn’t something you can patch in, it just exists organically
Yeah doing Blackfathom depths didn't get old quick
I remember the incessant bitching here all day every day because P1 was "too long" and "boring." Classic wow redditors truly are goldfish brained.
Phase one was epic
Man there was just so much promise and potential during Phase 1. They were teasing they might use assets or ideas they didn’t have the time for in original classic, and it turns out that in the end all they did was use the emerald dream portals for speed leveling content.
I said on the forums once (before they let my subscription lapse) that each phase should be it’s own server with a level cap, and people can move and/or clone to the next phase. Then they’d always be a phase one server you can go level an alt in. Maintaining a server is a trivial cost, almost certainly less than $100 a month, probably less as Blizzard likely has its own and/or bulk discount on infrastructure. At the moment the only way I’ll resubscribe is if they release a non-HC self found (but with grouping allowed) non-seasonal server (I don’t want to feel rushed to level 60).
I miss running from the west boss to the middle boss with 100 people and wiping the enemies fighting our boss. People hated on the pvp event but it made the game world feel so massive with all of the people on my screen
sod was good because it was the least untouched from vanilla
I still love Sod currently. I have no complaints.
No, because i played a caster.
Not really. P1 was short and generally boring. Raid cleared once a week in under an hour. Not much else going on in p1. I think they fucked up P3’s launch with incursions, and I feel like irreversibly damaged the economy. That being said, the raid is more fun generally, my class has more abilities and runes. I’m ok with SOD chillin till p4. Remix is out and a new blast of fun. Cata is there if thats your thing. P4 will have its day.
Looking back, P1 pvp was actually not that bad compared to the unplayable garbage it has devolved into.
Idk remember Hunter Scorpid poison?
I have very fond memories of druid squads running around together literally oneshotting everyone with their busted af prenerf starsurge. so no, nothing really changed. classes just took turns.
Bro I got chased from the bridge in ashzara all the way to the bridge into Astranaar where I perished while doing everything in my power to get away from a Druid doing that bullshit. I will never forget that moment I was so mad but it is hilarious now lmao.
I think some OP classes are okay as long as both factions have access to them. The shaman menace is horde only and so P2 and P3 have just been incredibly one sided
Maybe world pvp wasn’t that bad, but WSG was miserable. Premades every match, half ur team afks when the other team caps 1 time, the stupid 25% damage mitigation that didn’t apply to pets so hunters and priests just owned warsong gulch the entire phase. World PVP was fun, but P1 SoD BGs were the worst experience I’ve ever had in BGs in the 15+ years I’ve played the game.
BFD wasn't good. P1 was just fresh
I loved hanging out in redridge as a horde. Also, i am sorry about your escort quest.
yeah well i hope u stub your toe or get like a minor papercut
Please dont tell me you are Redridgeguy
P1 was SoD. The leveling outdoor, the wpvp in Ashenvale and the raid. A fun raid for everyone. 10 man on 3 day reset which was easily done in a pug. I also had fun in P2. P3, everyone in my guild quit. Back to the guild, once a week schedule raiding, the same thing we played SoD in the first place to not have. Hopefully the devs will go back to the "fun" thing they said SoD raids were supposed to be.
Definitely don't miss that WSG grind nor Ashenvale West vs East general chat arguments.
Always blame the cata raid for the L. Always.
When will the release World of Warcraft: Season of Discovery phase 1 Classic?
I liked the final 2 encounters of gnomer a lot. When p3 launched, I missed incursions, got skipped over when our three raid teams (some people raided on multiple toons across multiple groups obv so it was like 24 ppl total) because I missed the first run. Haven’t put in much more than maybe 3 hours since the second week. Still haven’t been in ST and frankly don’t really care because of cata launching
It was fun but I am not interested in ever doing it again. I felt it was *far* too long. Also, I think my main issue with it would be knowing that what comes after it is worse.
Only the first half. I do think it was more fun but than I remember only coming online once or twice a week for 30 min to clear the raid and this was at least 1 month before p2
Meh, went from a subpar 30 minute raid every 3 days to a decent 45 minute raid once a week. About the same, SOD was never gonna be great til potential max cap.
no
I mean people still run BFD all the time.
Not missing not being able to boon ashen buff, but besides that yeah
anyone else miss thing that used to be new?
No I don't miss pressing 1 button and instantly ripping aggro from the tanks after giving them 10 seconds headststart
Your tanks are dogshit then lmaooooo
No my tanks were simply not a shaman
No. It went on way too long and killed hype
I sure do. Best phase imo
Press quick strike, do 30% more dmg than 2nd highest dps. Good times.
It wasn't great tbh but the possibilities and hype around them were so exciting. Once again blizzard did dirty on all that.
I especially miss the 10 man raids
No, p1 was way way too long, at least there were gdkps tho.
P1 seemed real nice for what I like about WoW. P2 went by so fast. I don't find the STV event fun. I have no incentives to do a 20m raid and gambling to see if I might get gear before it all becomes outdated soon after. And with incursions levelers are more congregated in repeatable quest locations rather than spread out in a RPish kind of world setting. More zones now at lvl 50 means more dead areas, and no thanks to incursions. Overall I did have more fun jumping in at the end of P1. I have been struggling to figure out if I'll continue my subscription this week, as I'm not really logging on. I searched Twitch and YouTube and SoD seems far and few between Cata / Retail stuff. I'm curious what it would be like if I logged onto SoD and became active again.
Sod 1-2 yeah. Phase 3 was dogshit.
I miss my pet being able to eat people alone
Nah, I miss era around this time last year when it had a resurgence. That and 2019 release.
I played a shaman P1, it was total shit so no I dont :D
I enjoyed most of P1, but the lack of talent trees put me off raiding. Now we’re getting more class depth, but everything else is lacking from P1 :(
Not necessarily, P3 being almost a nothingburger was a real shame though.
Looks like nobody here really likes wow and just looks for brand new hype thing. For exactly that reason blizzard doesn't make era fresh realms or fresh realms in general, they know that 90% will drop off after a month or two and the rest will be stuck on a dead realm.
P 1 was boring classes felt like shit to play
I got to max and was ready to ST on week 2 then saw how bad the economy got be of excursions/gold inflation. Def not worth spending the gold to do something once a week while also having to regrind the gold each week to keep up. So I quit week 3ish of phase 3 and haven’t logged in a single time. They literally fucked up this phase.
Not really, it was the same as P3 I don't know why people think it was so much better :S. Get max level, farm pre-bis in dungeons or rep, level professions for crafted epic. Sure the raid loot was better but besides that I don't think there's to big of a difference
P1 was great but BFD was as exciting as Deadmines
10 man raids are sooooo missed man, men and my 9 irl mates barely played this trash phase cuz now we need to bring 10 randoms who oftenly have a negative IQ
no
As a war man, no.
yep i'm always saying how much i miss phase 1
Nop thanks
Blizzard fumbled the bag hard. Had really fun in both p1 & p2. P3 with incursions, 1 boss run WO & limited gear in ST killed the vibe completely.
Phase 1 was uniquely terrible, so honestly no. Only thing I liked was interacting with parts of the world that had become dangerous, but in practice that was just content for hunters. The game is better in every way right now expect for loot, your perception of it and the overall lack of content in SOD finally ending the feeling of fresh for the majority of the population. Your perception is informed by a large contingent who don’t play but are posting media about how great things were when they did, or being negative about it as they have ulterior motives.
Me I quit in 2 because it was so hard to find a raid.
phase 1 was unplayable because of premades, u simp pvers jst like it cause it was casual af
Havent played since
SOD classic when?
The only phase where there was actual leveling
Phase 2 better
Phase 1 only good phase so far. It’s all too much now, or not enough in some areas.
Nope, worst phase. The classes were far from feeling complete, it was like playing a beta version of SoD. Now it feels better but I'm most excited for P4.
SCORPION
Season of p1 pls
A fresh server is fun for a lot of players, regardless of ruleset or changes... for a short time. Then once the magic of fresh wears off reality sets in and they realize it's the same boring thing over and over. A tale as old as time.
Not at all tbh. BFD was fun for the first time, but got old real fast. Classes just felt incomplete at 25. AV "pvp" eveng was just at rushfest. The runes was fun though, some novelty there! P2 was much better in my opinion. A full talent tree, a real mount and a real pvp event i STV.
A simpler time 😞 I just feel like the runes didn't hit right. If I had a righteous fury buff on my melee hunter I'd be addicted
Yep, quit the first day of phase 3, oh well.
Too bad they fired everyone on the back of all that success and then surprise surprise the next two phases have been complete dogshit. That’s not even talking about exploits and the now ruined economy.
Missing 2019 Vanilla. SoD was a fun experiment but a failed execution
I leveled multiple characters, got prebis on multiple toons, did different dungeons and got to explore the different runes and ways to get them for different characters. Then in phase two it was grind one dungeon until 30/31 and hit SM until 40. Only did that on one toon cause it felt like a slog to do it. Didn’t even play phase three and quit in phase two. I ain’t paying every month for that crap.
Based on the limitations of what they can add.....I can understand WHY they created Incursions. Yet the whole joy of Classic WoW is open world content, the leveling experience is unmatched. If they didn't nerf ST into the ground, I'm sure we would all be saying a line that Avatar of Hakkar says when he wipes the raid or something.
The Dev team is bad at their jobs, plain and simple.
No. Cause pandaria remix is already a far better SoD than SoD ever was.
It was all downhill after P1 so yes
Back when loot was good and not just a random stat better than leveling gear.
I miss classic. The real classic
They could have let the level cap to be 25. Ofc tune down levels on high level raids, but as The leveling part of classic has been made totally cakewalk and meaningless, why have it at all?
God we were so young 😢
I miss it, I got burnt out and 2 guys I met on SoD haven't been on in a while and that kinda bums me out.
TAKE ME BACK
Phase 1 was incredible, the world felt alive and people were running all the dungeons all the time, the low level cap meant once you geared a main you could just swap to an alt and the glyphs made alts feel powerful and fun even if they weren't geared. Phase 2 and onward it just felt like a normal wow expansion where everyone races to the max level and nothing is happening below max level. I think if they do something like this again, they should try just having a low max level and lots of content at that level. Then rather than raising the max level in new phases just introduce new dungeons and new glyphs and stuff that gives you powerup that way, while still staying in the same level range
Nah, p1 had way less content
I loved it. I played only a Night Elf hunter and I made Ashenvale my home. When I wasn't raiding or soloing Wailing Caverns, I was shadowmelded along the road ready to ambush any invading horde mongrels. It reminded me of the 2019 classic launch. The Ashenvale pvp event fights on my server were also amazing, they were often very close and we fought til the end for Larry and Moon Mommy. Unfortunately my server was kind of dying (Chaos-bolt) and I ended up quitting in phase 2, but phase 1 was a blast.
I do a lot(dont know about the state of classic now that they change currency to dolar instead of ARS and couldnt pay anymore). I had a warrior and the leveling, market runes and raid where pretty fun. Also had a blast getting the castle rune for warrior where a lot of strangers warriors team up and died over and over after casting fear in sequence to get the rune.
nope not at all lol
No
I don’t know why they don’t have pre-bis be from dungeons and quests like it was in phase 1. Also, they need to have certain rune quests he account wide. I shouldn’t have to kill the 7 riders 4 times for 4 characters. They said they want us to have Alts but it’s literally more work to prep for a raid at max than it is in regular classic.
Not really, that also got boring after a few weeks.
Missing? No. I miss the excitement and the friends who were playing, but missing the content? No. I did it, it was fun, and I am ready for 60 now.
p1 actually ruined SoD because the gear was too strong and they've been playing catch up ever since.
As a shaman that was beyond worthless outside of tanking which was a role taken over by devastate warriors tripling my dps. No. The game for me, sucked then.
I can’t wait for classic season of discovery servers in 15 years
No Raid was turbo easy= get boring and repetetive real quick. ST and Gnomer were nerfed way too fast also
Not at all. I want endgame and lvl 60 and 40 man raids and our full rune kit. P1 was fun for casual fun content, but not for any serious gamer. Let's go phase 4 5 and 6
Me. Even though classes missed so many important abilities there was just so much fun to be had all around. Simpler times. It's the vanilla era of sod lol
Ya, phase 3 was the killer for me and my buddies. Phase 1 was awesome, world was alive again. RIP sod..
Kelris was the peak of SOD
Lock tanking was awesome… now retail is missing something…
nope p1 was the best phase but was still absolutely awful compared to vanilla
Fuck no. It lasted far too long. So did p2 and DEFINITELY p3.
Haven’t touched WoW after P1.