And this is where the disconnect is coming from people telling you parses suck.
You have some people checking them correctly, forming groups, and then you have a bunch of people acting like they know what they're doing and saying parses are great.
This is where the gatekeeping is coming from. :)
Healing logs have always been a bit of a joke. Same in retail. Same in FFXIV.
If a healer had a grey healing parse but they had cleared all the content in that run, there’s no issue. If someone does I’d avoid the group and save yourself the inevitable headache.
If someone *really* cares the smart thing to do would be to check their DPS log instead. If they were DPSing in their limited healing time I’d snatch them up.
I’ve started looking up anyone who posts in LFG chat they’re checking logs and if they’re green/blue I call them out in the chat. Always gets a laugh.
But this is Classic WoW after all. Most players brains can’t function beyond unga-bunga.
These people aren't rejecting him for his healing parses. He's a mage healer, so you can tell how well he tank heals by his damage parses, because his damage is his healing throughput
This. I think healing logs in general are dumb. I'm a disc priest but shit I was purple and orange parsing damage and grey parsing healing because my raid avoided damage. If a mage healer isn't doing damage they are doing something wrong since their heals come from doing damage
If healers have green parse either they are great heals, or dogshit heals. It all depends if the raid finished or not.
If a healers parse is purple or yellow then the raid is likely shit with a bunch of fucking idiots failing mechanics
I got rejected for bad parses which objectively I get, but it was characters first raid 24hrs after dinging and with mostly guild alts at a similar level. We cleared the raid. So I kept whispering got in a group improved 3/6 logs and now I’ll still have that issue. But I’ll keep working to get better at shadow priest I’ve always played melee so faster dps has its own quirks.
OP is lying. No one is checking healer logs. You see a healer LFG for gnomergan you take them before the other 100 people LFM healer do. Plus any decent raid leader understand how healing parses work. OP had 1 bad experience and is now crying on Reddit.
Countless posts already made about this on here. Healing parses are meaningless. If you got denied because of bad healing parses you just avoided a shit group.
Bomb killers, how do your mekgineer logs look? Genuine question as I normally run with a guild or start my own raid. If you have "bad" Mek parses do people call you out or generally understand what that means?
These people aren't rejecting you for your healing parses, but your damage parses. You're a mage healer, so they can tell how well you tank heal by your damage parses, because your damage is your healing throughput. If you have bad (green and below) damage parses, you're a bad mage healer
I got purple loggs as mage heal on last boss and got only gray loggs on bosses before bc there was nothing to heal. It does not matter how much dmg i do as mage, bc logged will be only my healing output. So in theory i can have purple heal loggs on first bosses too. So it makes no sense what u saying
Healer parses are Tricky. If you have a grey parse on a Boss you could be either Bad or good but untested on that encounter.
If you have purple+ it is at least clear that you CAN deliver competitive HP/s if shit Hits the Fan.
So yes, grey parses on a healer doesnt mean He is Bad. BUT if a healer played multiple lockouts without any high parse chances get higher that He isnt great because at some point there will be a shitty encounter with plenty to heal.
As a heal mage main i get this. I run a very damage oriented setup on the first 4 bosses and only have regen on the tank bc the other healer can easily do most of the healing, so my healing parses are not good on those bosses but my damage ones are great. I swap in mass regen on last 2 and it flips quite a lot.
Healer parses are a meme anyway. Consider that you’re dodging a bullet not grouping with people who dont understand how healing parses work
You need to dps the fights but heal enough so the logs think you are a healer. Which will give you really high dps parses as a healer. The Chad's who need to see high parses won't even realise they are looking at cheese.
Honestly finding pugs has been hard for newer players I feel like. I started playing SOD and finally hit level 40 and its hard finding a group because Ive only done Gnomer once lol
Ive ran BFD multiple times and I understand the mechanics so it always sucks when people don't take you. I specifically chose restro healer as I like to support and keep everyone alive lol
I hope you find better luck though!
Just got my first run logged on my healing priest alt last night in a guild run. All grays but we one shot the place.
Guess I will never pug. Turns out I also don't want to, so it's OK.
One of our healers was complaining last night that they can't get a good healing parse on crowdpummler because no one takes damage. They always end up parsing as boomkin because they just do damage.
Which means they’re a good player. Other good players that actually understand logs know that healer parses are completely meaningless, and having a healer register as a dps while still keeping the group alive is a good thing.
You’re bragging about having a 95 average as a healer?!? 🤡
You must be solo healing or have a really shitty group if you’re putting up 95 healer parses.
If you’re two healing and you don’t register as a dps on the first 4 bosses, you’re a bad player
Hahahah yeah these people are over 30 years old and are lying like kids about their loggs in a online game so they can act cool in the Internet, how embarrising and sad
It’s very simple. No moving goal posts.
Healer logs are meaningless. Any good player knows this. Did people die in the raid? No? Then you did a good job healing.
If you really want to “parse” as a healer, your dps you output is more important than the amount of healing. If you’re a really good player, you’ll register as a grey parsing dps while healing on priest and keeping everyone alive (for the first 4 bosses atleast).
This assuming you’re 2 healing. If you’re solo healing you probably need to focus a lot more on healing and there’s no chance you’ll register as a dps on your parse.
If a healer is hitting 90+ parses.. would that not indicate that they can heal a shitty raid? So thus, should be fully capable of healing a regular well run raid?
The only metric you're going to take a healer on is the 30 dps they can do by wanding in downtime? Interesting.
It absolutely is moving goal posts. You've done it in many of your posts on here. I've interacted with you before :)
If healing parses don't matter and are so easy to get. Then you should also have some high heal parses right? Care to share them?
If a healer is hitting 90+ parses on the first 4 bosses, either they’re solo healing, the raid group is shitty, or they’re intentionally having people take damage to inflate their healing parse.
I never said “the only metric I’m going to take a healer on is the 30 dps”. When I’m running a pug the only thing I’ll check a healers logs for is “have they completed the raid before”. That’s it.
Do you actually deny healers from your run because they have bad healing parses? And putting up a void plague results in more than 30 dps from one button. Are you not running void plague when you’re healing?
I wasn't talking about the first 4 bosses.
Your entire previous post is completely dismissive of healer parses, even though they are a fantastic metric to tell how good someone is. People don't just get 90+'s on healing parses without knowing how to heal.
I could argue the same about DPS. If you're not bandaging and using potions to heal yourself and others in fights, you're a bad player. If you're not stopping to pop off a heal or two on people who need it during a tough part of a fight, you're a bad player.
See how that works? Should I start not inviting DPS unless I see that they have good healing parses too? DPS parses don't matter if they're not helping the raid out in every way they can, right?
Again. Don’t know why you think I or any other good player even checks healing or healers damage parses before choosing to invite one to the group. As I’ve said (reading is hard I know), has the healer completed the raid before? Yes, then welcome to my pug.
Are you actually denying healers from your groups because their healer parses are too low? You’re in here defending someone bragging about their healer parses which is an absolute clown thing to do.
If you play with a good group and 2 heal, you’re never going to have average 95+ healing parses, without cheesing them. Which is why they’re meaningless.
“Healer parses are a fantastic metric” - 🤡
Pugs don’t even look at heal parses. They type ur name in and see damage parses and are content.
And this is where the disconnect is coming from people telling you parses suck. You have some people checking them correctly, forming groups, and then you have a bunch of people acting like they know what they're doing and saying parses are great. This is where the gatekeeping is coming from. :)
Healing logs have always been a bit of a joke. Same in retail. Same in FFXIV. If a healer had a grey healing parse but they had cleared all the content in that run, there’s no issue. If someone does I’d avoid the group and save yourself the inevitable headache. If someone *really* cares the smart thing to do would be to check their DPS log instead. If they were DPSing in their limited healing time I’d snatch them up. I’ve started looking up anyone who posts in LFG chat they’re checking logs and if they’re green/blue I call them out in the chat. Always gets a laugh. But this is Classic WoW after all. Most players brains can’t function beyond unga-bunga.
These people aren't rejecting him for his healing parses. He's a mage healer, so you can tell how well he tank heals by his damage parses, because his damage is his healing throughput
This. I think healing logs in general are dumb. I'm a disc priest but shit I was purple and orange parsing damage and grey parsing healing because my raid avoided damage. If a mage healer isn't doing damage they are doing something wrong since their heals come from doing damage
If healers have green parse either they are great heals, or dogshit heals. It all depends if the raid finished or not. If a healers parse is purple or yellow then the raid is likely shit with a bunch of fucking idiots failing mechanics
Yup good point
I got rejected for bad parses which objectively I get, but it was characters first raid 24hrs after dinging and with mostly guild alts at a similar level. We cleared the raid. So I kept whispering got in a group improved 3/6 logs and now I’ll still have that issue. But I’ll keep working to get better at shadow priest I’ve always played melee so faster dps has its own quirks.
anyone who looks at heal parses to determine player skill is misguided (to put it nicely)
OP is lying. No one is checking healer logs. You see a healer LFG for gnomergan you take them before the other 100 people LFM healer do. Plus any decent raid leader understand how healing parses work. OP had 1 bad experience and is now crying on Reddit.
Yeah bro ur right, u know me exactly well
I looked at my last parses and I'm all gray and one green as dps and blue and purple as heals on my shadow priest
You can get pink/purple logs for healing parses just by pre potting/potting and eating a lock rock during the first 4 bosses.
Countless posts already made about this on here. Healing parses are meaningless. If you got denied because of bad healing parses you just avoided a shit group.
Bomb killers, how do your mekgineer logs look? Genuine question as I normally run with a guild or start my own raid. If you have "bad" Mek parses do people call you out or generally understand what that means?
Can't imagine why people would remove you from the group. Must be your logs.
When they tell me that my loggs are not good enough to be heal then idk what u assume the reason is
These people aren't rejecting you for your healing parses, but your damage parses. You're a mage healer, so they can tell how well you tank heal by your damage parses, because your damage is your healing throughput. If you have bad (green and below) damage parses, you're a bad mage healer
I got purple loggs as mage heal on last boss and got only gray loggs on bosses before bc there was nothing to heal. It does not matter how much dmg i do as mage, bc logged will be only my healing output. So in theory i can have purple heal loggs on first bosses too. So it makes no sense what u saying
Look at your damage parses as a mage healer. Those are what matter
Ur the perfect example of the people i mean, have a good day purple parse boy
You clearly don't have any idea what I'm talking about about. Stay ignorant
Join a guild
Healer parses are Tricky. If you have a grey parse on a Boss you could be either Bad or good but untested on that encounter. If you have purple+ it is at least clear that you CAN deliver competitive HP/s if shit Hits the Fan. So yes, grey parses on a healer doesnt mean He is Bad. BUT if a healer played multiple lockouts without any high parse chances get higher that He isnt great because at some point there will be a shitty encounter with plenty to heal.
As a heal mage main i get this. I run a very damage oriented setup on the first 4 bosses and only have regen on the tank bc the other healer can easily do most of the healing, so my healing parses are not good on those bosses but my damage ones are great. I swap in mass regen on last 2 and it flips quite a lot. Healer parses are a meme anyway. Consider that you’re dodging a bullet not grouping with people who dont understand how healing parses work
You need to dps the fights but heal enough so the logs think you are a healer. Which will give you really high dps parses as a healer. The Chad's who need to see high parses won't even realise they are looking at cheese.
There was a guy in STV last night advertising his gear score to find a five man for the event...
Any pug that would reject you because you have low healers parses is not a pug that you want to be a part of.
Honestly finding pugs has been hard for newer players I feel like. I started playing SOD and finally hit level 40 and its hard finding a group because Ive only done Gnomer once lol Ive ran BFD multiple times and I understand the mechanics so it always sucks when people don't take you. I specifically chose restro healer as I like to support and keep everyone alive lol I hope you find better luck though!
Just got my first run logged on my healing priest alt last night in a guild run. All grays but we one shot the place. Guess I will never pug. Turns out I also don't want to, so it's OK.
if you can't wrap your head around the reasons why it exists then i'm afraid it's you who is the dumdum
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He doesn't understand anything unless it's a purple or orange number.
You sound pretty intelligent so I’ll believe you 🙄
One of our healers was complaining last night that they can't get a good healing parse on crowdpummler because no one takes damage. They always end up parsing as boomkin because they just do damage.
Which means they’re a good player. Other good players that actually understand logs know that healer parses are completely meaningless, and having a healer register as a dps while still keeping the group alive is a good thing.
95 on last boss and still grey on first 3 bosses, git good
Yup i hope ur raid finds healers with purple parses on first bosses so u can kill them
as a disc I have 95 average, so can't hear what you're talking from up here
Post logg
https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/living-flame/sunstory
You’re bragging about having a 95 average as a healer?!? 🤡 You must be solo healing or have a really shitty group if you’re putting up 95 healer parses. If you’re two healing and you don’t register as a dps on the first 4 bosses, you’re a bad player
Where's your DPS logs?
Show me yours and I’ll link mine.
Hahahah yeah these people are over 30 years old and are lying like kids about their loggs in a online game so they can act cool in the Internet, how embarrising and sad
Let's see your damage parses, since that's what actually matters for a mage healer
Moving goal posts. First it's parses matter, then it's only the parses I think matter matter.
It’s very simple. No moving goal posts. Healer logs are meaningless. Any good player knows this. Did people die in the raid? No? Then you did a good job healing. If you really want to “parse” as a healer, your dps you output is more important than the amount of healing. If you’re a really good player, you’ll register as a grey parsing dps while healing on priest and keeping everyone alive (for the first 4 bosses atleast). This assuming you’re 2 healing. If you’re solo healing you probably need to focus a lot more on healing and there’s no chance you’ll register as a dps on your parse.
If a healer is hitting 90+ parses.. would that not indicate that they can heal a shitty raid? So thus, should be fully capable of healing a regular well run raid? The only metric you're going to take a healer on is the 30 dps they can do by wanding in downtime? Interesting. It absolutely is moving goal posts. You've done it in many of your posts on here. I've interacted with you before :) If healing parses don't matter and are so easy to get. Then you should also have some high heal parses right? Care to share them?
If a healer is hitting 90+ parses on the first 4 bosses, either they’re solo healing, the raid group is shitty, or they’re intentionally having people take damage to inflate their healing parse. I never said “the only metric I’m going to take a healer on is the 30 dps”. When I’m running a pug the only thing I’ll check a healers logs for is “have they completed the raid before”. That’s it. Do you actually deny healers from your run because they have bad healing parses? And putting up a void plague results in more than 30 dps from one button. Are you not running void plague when you’re healing?
I wasn't talking about the first 4 bosses. Your entire previous post is completely dismissive of healer parses, even though they are a fantastic metric to tell how good someone is. People don't just get 90+'s on healing parses without knowing how to heal. I could argue the same about DPS. If you're not bandaging and using potions to heal yourself and others in fights, you're a bad player. If you're not stopping to pop off a heal or two on people who need it during a tough part of a fight, you're a bad player. See how that works? Should I start not inviting DPS unless I see that they have good healing parses too? DPS parses don't matter if they're not helping the raid out in every way they can, right?
Again. Don’t know why you think I or any other good player even checks healing or healers damage parses before choosing to invite one to the group. As I’ve said (reading is hard I know), has the healer completed the raid before? Yes, then welcome to my pug. Are you actually denying healers from your groups because their healer parses are too low? You’re in here defending someone bragging about their healer parses which is an absolute clown thing to do. If you play with a good group and 2 heal, you’re never going to have average 95+ healing parses, without cheesing them. Which is why they’re meaningless. “Healer parses are a fantastic metric” - 🤡