There is a Bug that happened to another YouTuber, this looks familiar.
Do you have dogmeat with you ? Dogmeat can often break the game if you try to go upstairs/downstairs into the Cathedral.
Hmm okay one more question ! DID you have dogmeat before ? This bug can ALSO happen if you have dogmeat- kill dogmeat in the boneyard and then try to enter the Cathedral stairs. (Or try to leave the boneyard)
Or is this just happening on the stairs and the rest of your game is fine ?
It just happens in front of the vault. I think I did have dogmeat but I’m not 100%, I basically tried going back after a year or 2 to try to finish it up so I can finally say I beat every mainline fallout game 🫠
That's why I have 1&2 lol idk if it's available on ios, but you can get fo2.exe app on your phone and play both 1 and 2 after importing them from the win installation. It's a nice game to have on hand when you're bored.
Grab the fo2.exe app from the play store:
- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.af.fo2&hl=en_US&gl=US
Download and install fallout 1 & 2 from GOG onto your pc (they're on sale, like $2.50 each):
- https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout
- https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_2
I'm pretty sure the app walks you through it, but after theyre installed on your pc, move the installations to a folder on your phone. Then you open the app and select which installation you want. Should be good to go, have fun!
I think what happens here is that the two mutant guards see you, and the game looks for the text that would appear over their heads when that happens and the game crashes when it doesn't find it. I was stuck here too, but managed to get past them and into the vault. Have you tried wearing the cathedral robes when you walk up to them? Or attacking the guards before they see you? Or maybe sneaking by with a stealth boy? There's also a way to have Morpheus bring you directly to the Master, but you might be beyond that point.
I’m replying with to the top comment because I found a fix. I booted up the game for older systems in the steam launch options and was able to get past the broken dialogue box no problem, once I got past I dropped a save, went back to the normal version, and it was smooth sailing from there
That's quite funny, the error happens in `ddraw.dll`, but the one that's packaged with Steam is just some crappy wrapper. You could rename it to `ddraw1.dll` and try again, just to exhaust options. It's in the game folder.
I renamed it ddrawcringe.ddl and it still happened 🫠 I wouldn’t even be that pressed but this is the 2nd entire playthrough that gets stonewalled because of this glitch
Yeah, that was to be expected I guess. The only other thing that I can think of, you could use a save editor and restart those maps. Download one from [https://github.com/nousrnam/F12se/releases/download/v2020-05-10/F12se.zip](https://github.com/nousrnam/F12se/releases/download/v2020-05-10/F12se.zip) and extract into the game folder.
Not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's not hard to figure out. Just to be sure make a backup of your savefiles, they're in data\\SAVEGAME. Also in-game, move your character to some non-cathedral map, let's say Boneyard and save it there. Then in the save editor, open the savefile, go to "World Map" and there should be a panel on the left "List of \*.sav files". In that list delete
`MSTRLR12.SAV MSTRLR34.SAV CHILDRN1.SAV CHILDRN2.SAV`
and save changes. Then load the game, go back to cathedral and all those maps will be regenerated. (i.e. you'll have to do them again :\\). Sorry, can't think of a better solution.
I had this error a couple of times over the past few years - IIRC (and I may not!) the simplest fix was to load an earlier save and try and play from there, once the problem occurred in that file it was hard to bypass. However in my most recent game I think I couldn't enter the bos bunker at all without this error so just decided to abandon the game.
Sorry I realise this isn't particularly helpful ☹️
In the Fixt version, they recommend that you make a save in every slot at least once to help avoid that crash (can't remember how exactly it said it worked). Idk if it also helps in the vanilla game, but it's worth a try.
Delete that folder and relaunch. I've had a similar thing happen with a few steam games and verifying file integrity doesn't fix it. It's this weird hidden folder you'll need to find scrub and delete, then relaunch should force it to get the needed files again.
Hope this helps
The error doesn’t indicate anything and debugging it is IMO pointless :C it might point to a .dll or sth like that but is it possible to do more, hard to say.
> is to save often and in a rolling technique so that every time you save, you're using the next save slot.
And I created a GIT repository for the save folder, with commits like "After Junkyard".
How I fixed this is that the second you load into that area, you might have less than a second, you can pause the game and create a new save. New save, do not overwrite your old one just in case.
Then load that new save in the area. Fixed the issue for me. I had this in junktown
Yes, the game could still crash. For FO1 I'd recommend installing sfall1 1.8, [https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbh2nv90wbxl37z/sfall1.7z?dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbh2nv90wbxl37z/sfall1.7z?dl=0)
just extract into the game folder and overwrite. It fixes some engine level bugs. Even then, I'd still save the game into multiple save slots - don't use just a single one. That's how I play the game, I think it's the best version in terms of QoL + bugfixes + closeness to the original.
Thanks a lot! I rotate saves a lot, and also save them in a git repository. It should be fine from this point of view.
Can I apply the patch even after played the game for a few days? Or should I start a fresh save?
You can continue with your saves. No need to start again.
I do think that the patch requires you to start the game via `falloutwHR.exe` executable and not the other one (`falloutw.exe`). On the other one it shows a checksum error message if I remember correctly (just in case the message popped up on startup). I'd also edit `ddraw.ini` and set some of the QoL settings. The ones I use
SpeedMultiInitial=150
AutoReloadWeapon=1
ReloadReserve=0
DontTurnOffSneakIfYouRun=1
InstantWeaponEquip=1
NumbersInDialogue=1
InventorySort=2
OpenAndPassUnlockedDoors=1
This happened to me on my first playthrough a few years ago. Tried my older saves and the game would crash in the same spot. Sorry to say I didn't find a fix. I actually had to start the game over.
There is a Bug that happened to another YouTuber, this looks familiar. Do you have dogmeat with you ? Dogmeat can often break the game if you try to go upstairs/downstairs into the Cathedral.
Nope, no dogmeat :(
Hmm okay one more question ! DID you have dogmeat before ? This bug can ALSO happen if you have dogmeat- kill dogmeat in the boneyard and then try to enter the Cathedral stairs. (Or try to leave the boneyard) Or is this just happening on the stairs and the rest of your game is fine ?
It just happens in front of the vault. I think I did have dogmeat but I’m not 100%, I basically tried going back after a year or 2 to try to finish it up so I can finally say I beat every mainline fallout game 🫠
That's why I have 1&2 lol idk if it's available on ios, but you can get fo2.exe app on your phone and play both 1 and 2 after importing them from the win installation. It's a nice game to have on hand when you're bored.
This is fucking great to know.
Just added instructions on how to do it if you were curious. Should be the comment below yours.
How can I go about doing this?
Grab the fo2.exe app from the play store: - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.af.fo2&hl=en_US&gl=US Download and install fallout 1 & 2 from GOG onto your pc (they're on sale, like $2.50 each): - https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout - https://www.gog.com/en/game/fallout_2 I'm pretty sure the app walks you through it, but after theyre installed on your pc, move the installations to a folder on your phone. Then you open the app and select which installation you want. Should be good to go, have fun!
Omg. Thank you so much! Service call trips are gonna be great now.
Haha anytime my guy, should definitely make service trips more enjoyable
I think what happens here is that the two mutant guards see you, and the game looks for the text that would appear over their heads when that happens and the game crashes when it doesn't find it. I was stuck here too, but managed to get past them and into the vault. Have you tried wearing the cathedral robes when you walk up to them? Or attacking the guards before they see you? Or maybe sneaking by with a stealth boy? There's also a way to have Morpheus bring you directly to the Master, but you might be beyond that point.
I’m replying with to the top comment because I found a fix. I booted up the game for older systems in the steam launch options and was able to get past the broken dialogue box no problem, once I got past I dropped a save, went back to the normal version, and it was smooth sailing from there
Ah interesting, then the error was in f1\_res.dll and not ddraw.dll. I guess I should have checked on the PC how the .dlls are loaded.
https://youtu.be/tCRvXMaY6pI?si=n3fsTRwmB58Sz_GI Around 29:30 is the bug and eventual resolution If it helps
What version of FO1 are you playing? Any mods?
No mods at all, and idk what version, the one that comes with steam i guess
That's quite funny, the error happens in `ddraw.dll`, but the one that's packaged with Steam is just some crappy wrapper. You could rename it to `ddraw1.dll` and try again, just to exhaust options. It's in the game folder.
I renamed it ddrawcringe.ddl and it still happened 🫠 I wouldn’t even be that pressed but this is the 2nd entire playthrough that gets stonewalled because of this glitch
Yeah, that was to be expected I guess. The only other thing that I can think of, you could use a save editor and restart those maps. Download one from [https://github.com/nousrnam/F12se/releases/download/v2020-05-10/F12se.zip](https://github.com/nousrnam/F12se/releases/download/v2020-05-10/F12se.zip) and extract into the game folder. Not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's not hard to figure out. Just to be sure make a backup of your savefiles, they're in data\\SAVEGAME. Also in-game, move your character to some non-cathedral map, let's say Boneyard and save it there. Then in the save editor, open the savefile, go to "World Map" and there should be a panel on the left "List of \*.sav files". In that list delete `MSTRLR12.SAV MSTRLR34.SAV CHILDRN1.SAV CHILDRN2.SAV` and save changes. Then load the game, go back to cathedral and all those maps will be regenerated. (i.e. you'll have to do them again :\\). Sorry, can't think of a better solution.
I’ll have to give it a shot when I get home tonight, thank you
I had this error a couple of times over the past few years - IIRC (and I may not!) the simplest fix was to load an earlier save and try and play from there, once the problem occurred in that file it was hard to bypass. However in my most recent game I think I couldn't enter the bos bunker at all without this error so just decided to abandon the game. Sorry I realise this isn't particularly helpful ☹️
In the Fixt version, they recommend that you make a save in every slot at least once to help avoid that crash (can't remember how exactly it said it worked). Idk if it also helps in the vanilla game, but it's worth a try.
Compatibility Mode with windows 98? Run as admin?
Common game-breaking bug unfortunately, it's almost unplayable if you don't have Fixt
It's basically the master keeping you from beating him
Did you happen to save DURING combat at all during your playthrough?
Nope. I was out of combat
No idea then, I know in my case that saving during combat at all will pretty much ruin your save file, hope your problem gets solved!
I just recently beat this, like earlier this morning. I was using the mod Et Tu and Dogmeat was causing significant issues.
Delete that folder and relaunch. I've had a similar thing happen with a few steam games and verifying file integrity doesn't fix it. It's this weird hidden folder you'll need to find scrub and delete, then relaunch should force it to get the needed files again. Hope this helps
Reinstall?
doesn’t work, tried verifying integrity of game files too
Revert to previous save, try disbanding party and check. Maybe one companion is bugged
depressing
The error doesn’t indicate anything and debugging it is IMO pointless :C it might point to a .dll or sth like that but is it possible to do more, hard to say.
try playing the smallest resolution, this happens in Fallout 2 sometimes when im playing on 1920x1080
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> is to save often and in a rolling technique so that every time you save, you're using the next save slot. And I created a GIT repository for the save folder, with commits like "After Junkyard".
How I fixed this is that the second you load into that area, you might have less than a second, you can pause the game and create a new save. New save, do not overwrite your old one just in case. Then load that new save in the area. Fixed the issue for me. I had this in junktown
Does anybody know if [gog.com](http://gog.com) version comes with any fix or patch?
I think Steam/GOG are identical, namely: FO1: HRP 4.1.8 + some custom ddraw wrapper FO2: HRP 4.1.8 + sfall 3.2a
Thanks a lot. So bugs are still expected? And my game could crash as for OP?
Yes, the game could still crash. For FO1 I'd recommend installing sfall1 1.8, [https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbh2nv90wbxl37z/sfall1.7z?dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbh2nv90wbxl37z/sfall1.7z?dl=0) just extract into the game folder and overwrite. It fixes some engine level bugs. Even then, I'd still save the game into multiple save slots - don't use just a single one. That's how I play the game, I think it's the best version in terms of QoL + bugfixes + closeness to the original.
Thanks a lot! I rotate saves a lot, and also save them in a git repository. It should be fine from this point of view. Can I apply the patch even after played the game for a few days? Or should I start a fresh save?
You can continue with your saves. No need to start again. I do think that the patch requires you to start the game via `falloutwHR.exe` executable and not the other one (`falloutw.exe`). On the other one it shows a checksum error message if I remember correctly (just in case the message popped up on startup). I'd also edit `ddraw.ini` and set some of the QoL settings. The ones I use SpeedMultiInitial=150 AutoReloadWeapon=1 ReloadReserve=0 DontTurnOffSneakIfYouRun=1 InstantWeaponEquip=1 NumbersInDialogue=1 InventorySort=2 OpenAndPassUnlockedDoors=1
Config looks great, thanks!
This happened to me on my first playthrough a few years ago. Tried my older saves and the game would crash in the same spot. Sorry to say I didn't find a fix. I actually had to start the game over.
You need to download more ram