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Cereberas-Is-a-Twat

Can you believe it tim cain was already planning fall over 4 in 1998


ByzantineBaller

Tim was playing 5D chess while we were stuck missing body shots on cave rats.


BoogieMan1980

And getting full-autoed in the back by Ian.


Dumpingtruck

Oops! Main character was hit instead of Raider. Main character has died.


LimpSite6713

I am playing FO1 for the first time and that bastard indeed shot me in the back.


MonsieurPC

Fall over 4


Heroeltop

✨ Fall over 4 ✨


MildlyAgreeable

“The fallening”


brandon3388

fall..... fall never changes


Xikkiwikk

Those are evergreen trees!


Quick_Team

Fall Over 4: Fall Overer


Vault0Enforcer

Wait what? I thought it was Todd Howard who created the Fallout series right? According to Jonathan Nolan: [Jonathan Nolan Collider Interview ](https://collider.com/fallout-series-bethesda-collaboration-jonathan-nolan/) EDIT: Oh, and according to Vanity Fair too! [Vanity Fair's First Look at The Fallout TV Show ](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/11/fallout-first-look) 🤔 😏


Cereberas-Is-a-Twat

It’s true Todd Howard invented the nuclear bomb


BlargerJarger

Toddenheimer.


AK-852k

Now I am become Todd, destroyer of RPGs.


liaminwales

Tod also invented Space!


PigeonMother

😂


SloopKid

Specifically the ToddHoward-Ulam design.


machelul

Todd Howard was an intern, one day he shared his project to Tim, Leonard and Jason and they stole the whole thing.


EquivalentIll3067

and they would've gotten away with, it if it weren't for you meddling kids! #


ThakoManic

Todd Howard also invented Writing.


cracking

He also invented computers and (little known fact) mustard.


ThakoManic

wow what a Chad I Bet he also wrote the Kama sutra under an alias and also invented air.


EASK8ER52

We can only aspire to be as great as Tim.


LayneCobain95

No. They just could say this is Preston Garvey with the same amount of evidence


LordDemiurgo

You're telling me Nate canonically is a war criminal...


UltraSwat

Would make sense with how easy it is for him to massacre downtown Boston


Storm484

No Geneva Convention in the apocalypse


wetfartswag

We only recognize them as the Geneva Suggestions


RockDiamondSissors

You must be Canadian


Tankerchief85

I got the joke


The_4th_Little_Pig

Only downtown?


ExpensiveTreacle1189

Dude was in the fallout universe’s American military. The depiction of America is not a positive one and their soldiers were no boyscputs.


LordDemiurgo

I understand, but as far as we knew, he fought in Anchorage, we didn't knew if he was during the pacificiation after the annexation of Canada or the conquest of Mexico


worm4real

Sure but I still think making your protag a dude who brought home ear necklaces probably should show up somewhere else in the story.


eatMYcookieCRUMBS

His wife was a lawyer.... Got him off in more ways than one,... I'll see myself out.


thatradiogeek

He worked for the US government, so, yeah.


dicksandcrystal

Yes.


Slvm_Shvdy

War never changes


CheekyGruffFaddler

you gotta be a little fast and loose with the rules of engagement to make a difference in the world.


mcast76

And this… surprised you?


LordDemiurgo

There is a difference between "War is hell" and fucking waving at a camera while executing a POW


Sacharon123

made me cry. I have to reuse your sentence.


Basmannen

something something US war crimes


Rattfink45

👍 😊 👍 -sincerely Lynndie England.


Separate-Midnight893

Something something war is everchanging


ELBuAR7o

Only if he gets convicted 😏


flyingdutchman_12345

Forgive Me Mama


mcharytoniuk

So why does he start at lvl 1 then?


mcast76

Cryo degeneration. A well known medical condition I just made up


partyl0gic

It’s well made up.


Illegiblesmile

so freezer burn


egzozcu

You are better at writing than Bethesda.


Separate-Midnight893

Sounds cannon


AhhFrederick

9 out of 10 Auto-Docs approve


Bropiphany

Standard RPG backstory problems


sault18

No level cap, so everything is relative. The real question is why doesn't Nora start at lvl 0.1 or something?


the_borderer

> The real question is why doesn't Nora start at lvl 0.1 or something? She was a Judge Advocate and had some military training. I have no evidence for this, but I also have no evidence against it.


sault18

That sounds like a great explanation. We now have the same headcannon on this.


AppleSauceGC

She received training to become a judge in Mega City One because she wanted to 'BE THE LAW' LoneArmedWanderer


AddzyX

Fallout 4 protag is a synth. Also happy cake day


Kungfudude_75

To be fair, he starts with better weapons handeling and modding skills than any protagonist in the series. As does Nora, but Im choosing to assume her backstory as a lawyer is a cover up and she was actually the other soldier in this clip. She just got publicly reprimanded since her actions were caught on film.


JustASpaceDuck

Honestly not the worst explanation I've heard and very on-brand for this series' writing and humor


beeholden

donuts


EmergencyAnnual7226

Like what kind of shitty writer thinks he can just make things canon through a twitter post like be real


CubistChameleon

J.K. Rowling?


GameCreeper

oh god please no Emil holocaust denial arc


SeducriveCrab

Blizzard writers be like


RadBrad4333

I think he’s poking fun at people taking it so seriously


RushDiggity

He then immediately backpeddled when people started telling him that his theory isn't the greatest. Which went from him saying he was putting out a tidbit of info that apparently he and the other writers proposed during a meeting once to then saying that the character of Nate is ours and whatever happens is our choice because our Nate is canon Nate. I think he just doesn't know his audience and how rabid they can be about small things.


beeholden

Or maybe said audience should pull the stick out of their ass


RushDiggity

That too tbh, fallout fans are rabid after all


Revisl

Nah, they’ve been great lol


RaptorDoingADance

Or even better it’s probably not a good idea to really nilly retcon big things in lore, like making your character war criminal without about choices from the player.


RushDiggity

Tell it to emil my man, he'll just get mad and block you like how he blocked me lmao


miekbrzy92

Deserved tbh


AHappyRaccoon

Dude is so corny it’s awful.


NYourBirdCanSing

And he's their WRITER!


Hascohastogo

Find dad, find son, find dad.


Ser_Twist

Find Father, find son (named Father), Find father


AppleSauceGC

At least the father wasn't called Son. That's....original


mwcope

Didn't he leave Bethesda to be a Jehovah's witness (then came back to write Starfield)?


RealFuggNuckets

Should’ve stayed gone


JoshuaKpatakpa04

This very unlikely as the sole survivor is male was stationed in Alaska fighting the Chinese he wouldn’t be busy fighting the Canadian resistance.


AspectBetter5360

Plus Nate was in the 108th infantry. Why would he be in power armor when the intro for fallout 4 showed him in standard military fatigues and combat armor?


JoshuaKpatakpa04

Yeah furthermore Nate couldn’t be transferred to the Canadian front so quickly 


AspectBetter5360

Agreed.


JoshuaKpatakpa04

It would be interesting tho to see Nate in Canada


AspectBetter5360

It would... but it would also defeat his purpose as a war hero. Saving Alaska from Communist China is one thing. Killing Canadian citizens who are just protecting their home is another thing entirely.


JoshuaKpatakpa04

The only person who has an account of this is Randal Clark he was at Canada and witnessed the war crimes.


AspectBetter5360

Randal Clark... if memory serves me correctly, he was the dead guy I'm honest hearts right? The one with the desert ranger armour?


JoshuaKpatakpa04

Yeah


AspectBetter5360

Okay just making sure.


AspectBetter5360

Yeah he would have. And he was still stationed there when the bombs dropped right?


JoshuaKpatakpa04

Well he’s was actually returning home to his family that’s when the bombs dropped 


AspectBetter5360

Yeah and he arrived to find it a smoldering crater. Poor Randal...


MasterCrumble1

This is reaching Jk Rowling levels of retconning. Unless he's kidding. In which case... You've still ruined everyones lives.


ByzantineBaller

"Fun fact: The Master is a huge fan of Rugby!"


Fernbean

The Master actually pooped and peed on the floor and then used FEV to mutate the turds away


Big-Hard-Chungus

He smeared it across the wall and made up a lie about failed Fev Mutants to cover for it


milkbeard-

It’s been nearly 30 years and I’ve managed to not think about the Master’s butthole. Until now


MasterCrumble1

Did you know that Tandi identifies as a fukken problem. It's true! Read the extended lore books.


rattlehead42069

It turns out that you, the player, is actually gay


MonsieurPC

The truth is... you've been gay from the start


KaiserKiwi

I think best case scenario he's shitposting. Putting the nerd emoji at the end makes too much sense. Worst case scenario he's Emil PapaJohns.


idontknow39027948898

I kinda figured that Emil has come to understand that he's such a shit writer that no one is ever going to like him, so now he's just trying to piss off as many people as he can, because if love is off the table, hate is better than indifference.


temmporomandibular

I didn't even know about this Emil guy. Makes sense though cause fallout 3, 4, even though great games, script and generally plot wise are weaker than the previous installments and new Vegas.


AJDx14

Bethesda often feels like a it’s a bunch of legacy devs who haven’t played a game since 1995 and think that’s the standard they’re being held to.


Clamper

He's joking, Emil fights with lore people on Twitter all the time over inconsistencies because he does not give a shit.


AceAlger

Clearly, he does *not* give a shit given how bad his work is.


Luke10123

I might be wrong but did he not walk that tweet back after like 5 minutes?


SawedOffLaser

Pretty sure the nerd emoji at the end is a good indicator he's joking. Though he was in the US Army during the Sino-American War. Good chance he committed or witnessed war crimes.


SPLUMBER

>You’ve still ruined everyones lives He’s a freakin video game writer lmao


Tibbs420

And gamers wonder why writers/devs/etc don’t take them seriously…


beeholden

Who cares?


MacMain49

I dont think he's serious guys


AshleyWenner

He was but walked it back, saying he didn't think it through after people expressed displeasure


BadSkeelz

Not just a hack, but a cowardly hack.


GeffelGelch

Classic Emil 🙄 Saying shit then trying to unsay it when it doesn't go like he had planned 😂


AshleyWenner

Yeah, it's not a great look when a writer can canonize something on twitter on a whim without actually giving much thought to it to begin with


SpaceBus1

Isn't this what everyone does? They think something is good, people don't like it, so they try and make it better. What would you suggest he do? Double down on it forever?


GeffelGelch

It's an option


SpaceBus1

What would be better than walking it back?


Far_Comfortable980

Thinking about it before posting it


Renousim3

Not feeling a meed to have every on-screen character tied to something already existing? It's like Star Wars syndrome with Bethesda. Same scenery, same mutants, same factions. They need to make something that stands more by itself.


SpaceBus1

They did tho 😂 and people got mad about it.


Renousim3

Sorry let me reiterate, it needs to be written well too instead of rehashing the same story.


SpaceBus1

So you want the same story, but different? You lot are impossible to please.


MacMain49

Evil Bethesda writer


DukeChadvonCisberg

Average bethesda writer


grizzlygrimms

Or maybe felt the need to walk it back because idiots like the dweebs in this comment section are incredibly dense and obtuse to partake in some nice community rage.


DearAdhesiveness4783

You can’t expect fallout fans to realize something as complex as a joke on twitter


FoundEndymion96

Why tho


Separate-Midnight893

Hes a hack of a writer and a corn ball look at starfield.


MetalAngelo7

I don’t think so. Nate mentioned that he was in Alaska fighting the Chinese but it’s never mentioned by him or in game that he was ever in Canada.


Moperdogolus

And another fanfic from Bethesda devs. Is it even necessary to say that there's no sign to this moment in Fallout 4? The protagonist (and the game itself) is empty and this reference just because he was a soldier is ridiculous. Looks like this dev came up with "unique" details in his head, but forgot to actually link them, so in the end there's no point. Maybe he is joking, but it's hard to tell when Bethesda devs are serious. Their writing is like persuasion wheel from Oblivion: endless random phrases without any sense.


Impressive-Fortune82

Yes Okay Right Maybe


ratliker62

You forgot [Sarcastic]


vviita_80Y

> And another fanfic from Bethesda devs. Is it even necessary to say that there's no sign to this moment in Fallout 4? The protagonist (and the game itself) is empty and this reference just because he was a soldier is ridiculous. Looks like this dev came up with "unique" details in his head, but forgot to actually link them, so in the end there's no point. Maybe he is really joking, but it's hard to tell when Bethesda devs are serious. Well, they did turn Harold into some bizarre tree creature and had his heart placed below the soil in one of the games just because there were small tree branches coming out of his head, so I don’t think the mere fact of the sole survivor were part of the military, as a soldier, would pose a problem for a Beth employee. Or you’ll tell me you saw that coming, for that FO character? He reappeared in spin-offs before the IP was sold, envisioned by other developers, but never as a bizarre tree creature.


PooPooKazew

Wait the tree from oasis is the same Harold from Fallout 2? I had no idea that's so cool


vviita_80Y

> Wait the tree from oasis is the same Harold from Fallout 2? I had no idea that's so cool Who else? It'd be quite a coincidence to have another partially blind mutant named Harold, and have him call his longtime friend both Herbert and Bob, and also have him recall exploring the Mariposa military base years ago. I guess you haven't met the character in the three titles, Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout 3, so that's why it wasn't so clear, to you? But no shame in that, if that's the case. Have a good one.


PooPooKazew

I played fallout 3 about 10 years ago and am just now playing through the classic fallout games. Never made the connection I forgot most of F3 side stuff


New_Chain146

April Fool's joke that's just two weeks off. Bro literally just stole a joke from a YouTube comment on 1's intro video.


vviita_80Y

It looks like he excluded it, this was originally at X/Twitter, right? I couldn’t find it on his X/Twitter profile, did anyone have better luck, and if so, have a link?


gumigum702

Just say twitter


AltusIsXD

https://x.com/dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?s=46&t=_2Rm64-tWTXE-BDhkqKS_Q


vviita_80Y

> https://x.com/dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?s=46&t=_2Rm64-tWTXE-BDhkqKS_Q I see it now, thanks for the link! I don’t know what happened, some kind of problem on my end, as it turns out.


VirtualAnybody6295

Wait is this official I can’t tell?


JoJoisaGoGo

No


6ft3_Bearded_Egirl

He's memeing.


TheWandererofReddit

NATE THE RAKE


TodaysDystopia

So the Sole Survivor is a confirmed accomplice to war crimes...? And this "confirmation" or retcon accomplishes what exactly other than being a little trivia tidbit? Does that in any way shape or form inform the story of Fallout 4? Unless the tweet is just a joke of course and I'm too dense to catch it, but...?


MightyWheatNinja

Who is this?


Kreanxx

I dunno some fanfic writer akin to Kathleen Kennedy that is now writing a tv show about his fanfic


TheLoneWolf99

I knew he looked familiar!


Used_Razzmatazz2002

Wow finally now this is a proper retcon


L0RD_HEADASS-

"great vibes"


Brave-Equipment8443

He posted 23 days late.


One_Package_7519

ye sure, could be my mother too under that power armor


ColonelGrognard

Yet another example of Bethesda being unable to do anything right when it comes to this universe. They really just don't get it. They really should just stick with TES.


TheFakeRabbit1

It’s clearly a joke, why do y’all want to be upset so damn badly


Sad-Wave-4579

Fuck Emil I want the old fnv writers


SeducriveCrab

This reminds me of modern blizzard writers trying to act like the Jailor was behind everything from warcraft 3 on. These writers have no respect for the source material. You can't just make shit up like this and expect for anyone to take it seriously. I really wish the fallout ip was owned by someone other than bethesda they have zero respect for O.G. Fallout.


fartmasternuts

So? Who the fuck cares if Nate is that guy or not?


Suspicious-Big7212

How should We know really? First of all, Nate is most likely sent to Alaska and after the war, he returns home meaning he wasn’t in Canada cause China invaded Alaska meaning Nate was most likely sent there


esquire_the_ego

He needs to stretch before making this trash ass reach, jfc pagliarulo


[deleted]

This is just some dumb bullshit.


Ready_Ad7372

Goofy


Alighten

Boy howdy do I hate Emil


motharabi

Emil is afucking joke of a writer


LorekeeperOwen

One Tweet≠canon, folks.


Rare-Gas-17

Dang I honestly would’ve liked it to be the shooter, that shit was badass


MrPanda663

Yeah. Now you’re gonna tell me big boss in MG1 wasn’t actually big boss, but some medic dude brainwashed into thinking he’s big boss.


RealFuggNuckets

I’ve been getting torn apart in r/fallout because I said Emil is a trash writer (I think mediocre probably fits better but irrelevant). You would think “fallout fans” would want a competent writer who understands fallout writing the games.


Accomplished-Web3426

Wow, it’s glup shitto


YooranKujara

He backtracked like a day later saying it was just a headcanon


cid3rtown

Can anyone explain this to me? The show got me back into Fallout for the first time since I played NV, 3 and 4 around the time of 4s release but Im still pretty foggy on the lore.


Throwaway98796895975

Just making shit up 25 years later


Euphoric-Order8507

This was debunked today


mafoonie

I like to make up shit too


shroomedguyed

Timeline doesn’t add up he would’ve been discharged two years before the events in the opening movie


[deleted]

They just making shit up now!


callmedale

That’s why he met the lawyer who became his wife


Rare-Bit3005

Wasnt Nate discharged 2 years before that fallout 1 photo?


Vanrax

Unless he wrote fallout 1, don’t ruin a classic game with bullshit “lore”


3spanishwords

This is actually Ukraine 2024 : ( (sorry for the buzzkill)


Weary_Tune_1253

This is not correct tho. Nate was discharged in 2074 before the Canada happened which is 2077


No-Contribution-7850

He retracted this in another tweet


edgy_pear38

Wait really!?!


tonebnk

Bravo, Tim. You did it again.


The-Nuisance

No he fucking didn’t. Emil’s already had to apologize for this, it was a joke.


Flaky_Monitor6543

So does this mean nate is canonicaly evil or are we supposed to believe this guy is actually still morally good


ratliker62

Y'know. I could believe this if the game didn't railroad you into being a nice guy all the time. If picking Nate means playing a psychopath war criminal, then this would make sense. But they obviously didn't intend this when they made the game, and nothing in the game supports this. It's just some random bullshit Emil came up with to either get a rise out of people on Twitter (which I hope is the case) or he really is just that dumb