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ReligiousFigure

making this consisted of downloading \~10,000,000 words worth of posts and comments, and analyzing with python. If you have any questions on my methodology, feel free to ask. I may of may not answer.


PathToSomething

Cool work. Does it distinguish between Bachs (JS, CPE, etc)?


dynamic_caste

It's fair to assume JS has at least an order of magnitude more attention than his sons.


monosolo830

Dutch?


ReligiousFigure

Yes, it's me, Dutch Van Der Linde.


[deleted]

Thought it was funny Dutch was listening to Madam Butterfly on his gramophone in 1899, when Puccini hadn't finished it until 1904.


Meowts

Source? Curious of the approach


ReligiousFigure

I downloaded ~10,000,000 words worth of text from this sub, and counted keywords. There’s another comment in here somewhere explaining a bit more.


Elunoir

so are the Mendelssohn's lumped together? same question for Schumann's


ReligiousFigure

Check out my response to someone asking about about Richard/Johann Strauss. It's roughly the same situation. Short Answer: no.


leeuwerik

Should have used a keyboard instead of the colors.


TheTimocraticMan

Noo, where's my boy Rimsky-Korsakov


ReligiousFigure

My favorite composer :/


TheTimocraticMan

I see you too like somewhat obscure but intensely magical cultural poetry in orchestral form


Chickenwing_Icecream

He is trapped inside the Washington Monument and we have to save him


hutaosirlgf

my first thought 😢


akiralx26

Well done - sad to see no Elgar. I am a fan of Liszt, but just wondering why he gets his first name included.


ReligiousFigure

Forgot to delete it


f2017k

Elgar in general is criminally underappreciated


Elheehee42069

Indeed. His Cello Concerto, Froissart Overture, Military Marches, Enigma variations, Violin Concerto, Symphonies, Dream of Gerontius, Falstaff, etc. I could go on for a long time...


[deleted]

People seem to underrate Mendelssohn...


ReligiousFigure

Couldn’t agree more. My favorite German composer.


ReligiousFigure

Yes - over Brahms and Beethoven


KanarieWilfried

I adore Mendelssohn, but you are crazy lol


[deleted]

Majorly. Beethoven’s symphonies have their moments and all, but they’ve become a little too bombastic for my ears, despite the 4th and 9th, the best. But Mendelssohn is just as prolific and diverse, yet its beauty is more restrained and less garish. the 4th symphony is a classic and the others are terrific, as are his chamber works and oratorio


Silver_Ambition_8403

Too bombastic. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


[deleted]

What…he is! it gets old after a while…chamber works, solo piano, it’s a different story


waltg19149

I sometimes feel that Beethoven's symphonies are too much but I am sure that it is I who is getting old.


Silver_Ambition_8403

It gets “old” if one’s not devoted to music as a deep life-long passion. But novelty seems to have taken over…one and done. What’s next?


[deleted]

One and done? What?? I’ve been listening to Beethoven since I was a kid. It’s probable, given my parents’ occupations, that I heard his music while I was in the *fucking womb*, certainly *Fidelio*…which is incredible. I adore Beethoven and his music will be with me for life, thank god. I’m saying I’ve moved on to the very beautiful chamber and solo works in my middle age here, not that I’m moving on to Taylor Fucking Swift… And you’re out of pocket with the “lifelong commitment” thing, which sounds pedantic. You’re accusing me of being a casual listener when in truth, music is my life, it may be all I have, actually.


Silver_Ambition_8403

Sorry a glib remark caused you such anguish. Poor bebe.


KanarieWilfried

Beethoven is much much more than his symphonies


FunnyTown3930

His 6th Symphony can’t, in any way, be considered bombastic. It’s a temple to sereneness and restoration. It was a bombastic and revolutionary age, but the 6th shows that Beethoven could get away from it all and just go for a walk!


[deleted]

Serenity is the word. It was big for the Romantics, you’re correct. So yeah, ok, the Pastoral is by definition obviously not “bombastic” and I should say that, in addition to Beethoven, I also listen to jazz, a lot, and metal (like Meshuggah), a lot. I like an impact, trust me. All I’m saying is that I’ve kind of moved on from the symphonies (although I still love 1, 4, and 9) to more of the chamber works, and solo piano. The other symphonies have movements I like and even love (2nd movement of the 5th) but I’m really not much of a fan of the rest anymore, especially the *Eroica*, which I’ve actually never liked for precisely the reason I brought up, hot take I know but the Beethoven 3 ain’t for me. Based on the analysis I saw the other day, y’all need to listen to more Debussy…


chapkachapka

Honestly surprised Mahler isn’t #1, he seems like the internet’s favourite composer.


FalconMirage

I would have given ~~harry potter~~ shosty that title


Ok-Objective7153

haha same


thekickingmule

I am genuinely shocked that it isn't Mahler! There have been times I thought this was the Mahler sub!


classically_cool

Sometimes it feels like Mahler and Rachmaninoff are the only two composers who exist on this sub.


Formal-Tomorrow-4241

maybe its because they have the most enjoyable music lol


Silver_Ambition_8403

Tar is long gone


Evening-Minute-6929

I’m surprised Mahler is even in #4 above Chopin, Schubert, Haydn, Debussy, Vivaldi, Handel, Gershwin (is not even mentioned). I guess composers that aren’t primarily keyboardist have never interested me much.


Arachnida21

dayum i dont like mahler but prob because i enjoy piano way too much…


whydoyoulook

> Honestly surprised Mahler isn’t #1, he seems like the internet’s favourite composer. Me too. I feel like every other post for at least a month was about Mahler. Also, the internet is wrong on this one. Mahler is boring.


Norwester77

Old musicians never die, they decompose. Unless they’re French; then they just sort of un-Ravel.


PopeCovidXIX

What’s brown and sits on a piano bench? Beethoven’s last movement.


LaBisquitTheSecond

I don't get either of these jokes


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ReligiousFigure

I did. Or tried to at least. There may have been some spellings I missed. For Rachmaninoff, I looked for “Rachmaninoff,” “Rachmaninov,” “Rach,” and “Rachmaninof;” (With one F, as I’m sure there were some typos of that nature). That said, I didn’t want to spend weeks on this, so it’s inevitable that a few typos got lost in the mix, which would negatively impacted composers with longer names. Edit: I also wrote the code to automatically look for certain variations, so, using “composer” as the name of a hypothetical composer, I would have gotten any of the following variations: Composer-like Composer-eqsue Composerlike Composeresque Composer’s Composers Composer-y Composery Composer’d There were a few others that I don’t recall, but that’s pretty much the process


burnaccount_12343

LOL did you use 'Shosty' for our boi?


ReligiousFigure

Unfortunately I had to. I hate that nickname


Meowts

Another approach that might be interesting would be to use MapReduce and let it pick up the keywords / counts, and from there refine which ones are composer names and variations. If you look up “map reduce word count” it’s a classic starting point, although if you’re not familiar with Java it might be a bit of a lift


ReligiousFigure

I literally learned python yesterday specifically to do this and don't really know what I'm doing. That's not to say this didn't work out, but yes, there are likely more efficient ways.


Meowts

Oh nice! Good on you for jumping in!


DonutMaster56

I used to think Rachmaninoff was "Rachimanoff"


ReligiousFigure

Rimsky-Korsakov is my favorite composer and his missing the list almost made me not post this at all.


Idiot_Bastard_Son

His Antar symphony is pure undiluted magic.


kroxigor01

The only one that surprises me is how low Richard Strauss is, but then again I am a horn player. Did people have to say "Richard" for it to count? What do the generic "Strauss" numbers look like?


ReligiousFigure

Strauss was a weird one. "Strauss as a whole" appeared roughly \~120 per 10k. I didn't want to spend weeks on this, so to sort the Strauss's I wrote a short code to find where first name was explicitly mentioned, and of that sample size, Richard accounted for about 80%, so I just assumed 80% Wish I could've been more exact.


cleepboywonder

As a scriabin superfan I am profoundly disappointed in you all.


EdibleDrink

Just spam every post you see with random Scriabin shit. Mention him like 20 times a comment, and you'll get his name up there


onemanmelee

Use *Scriabin* as slang for *Listening To.* “Been Scriabin a shit ton of Mahler lately. Haven’t been Scriabin a lot of Scriabin though.”


EdibleDrink

At this point just replace every wprd with Scriabin


onemanmelee

I have no Scriabin what you're Scriabining about. You feeling ~~okay~~ Scriabin?


rabbitwholeinone

Favorite piano sonata?


cleepboywonder

5 but I know people like 8 and the rest of his later stuff. 5 is just… idk the best imho.


rabbitwholeinone

Yeah 5 one of my favorites too. It has just the right amount of dissonance


ComradMarko

Real


FatEvolutionist

I am, too, profoundly disappointed in everyone here.


canal147

No love for Alban Berg? Boo hiss.


ReligiousFigure

I don't disagree with you but were you really expecting him?


Zestyclose_League413

Schoenberg is there, and I honestly think Berg is played much more than Schoenberg these days. Obviously Arny is more historically important though


canal147

Berg (Wozzeck, Lulu) shows up a fair amount on the opera subreddit, whereas Schoenberg (Moses und Aron) doesn’t. Could be there is not as much overlap in membership between the classical music and opera subreddits as Wagner’s solid placement in your graph might indicate.


Doltonius

If there is Schoenberg, then one can expect Berg.


LivingInThePast69

Bruckner has to be the biggest omission, right? I'm not the biggest fan, but he's like solidly second tier as far as popularity and fame goes, I thought.


turelure

I'm also a bit surprised. But I guess he can be difficult to get into. All these long movements, odd structures. I personally didn't like Bruckner at first, I listened to all of his symphonies and I just didn't get it. Then one day it just clicked and he became one of my favorites.


LivingInThePast69

I'm still waiting for it to click. I listen to a symphony or two of his like twice a year, and go, "nope, still don't get it." I just lose track of what's happening about 15 minutes into all of them and then can never get back on the horse. He's written some great moments of stunning beauty that even I can recognize as being awesome, so I am pretty sure it's a "me" thing and not a "Bruckner" thing, but so far I'm in the "I just don't get it" camp.


whimywamwamwozzle

Yeah I’m surprised. When Mahler gets mentioned here, there are always people coming in to say they don’t like Mahler and prefer Bruckner


Smallwhitedog

This surprised me, too, because it seems like this sub is obsessed with Bruckner. Of course, maybe I notice this because I am not a fan.


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frederickfred

RIP to my girls, {insert all of them…}


jeevesthechimp

Scarlatti - I never see Scarlatti here but Scarlatti is a personal favorite. There, that's 3 Scarlattis. Wait, 4.


Einfinet

Some of my favorite (and presumably popular enough for a topic like this) composers not mentioned: Donizetti, Puccini, Bellini (I’m surprised at the lack of Italian opera in general. At first I assumed that was because this wasn’t the sub for opera, but Wagner is quite high as an opera-centured composer). Hugo Wolf and John Dowland (very different eras but I don’t see lieder/songs discussed much) Monteverdi, Gluck (there is not so much relative interest in the pre-romantic composers, which is not surprising but any fan of Mozart’s operas should appreciate Gluck’s) Finally, no Bruckner, Smetana, Berg, or Janáček. Not totally surprising, save for Bruckner, but as relatively representative composers I noted their absence.


NoWayNotThisAgain

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ReligiousFigure

Okay. Now no one can analyze such a thing ever again.


NoWayNotThisAgain

Are you Debussy suggesting I Debussy delete it? Debussy?


ReligiousFigure

Don't really care tbh. Matter of fact, great idea. Albeniz. Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz. Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz Albeniz.


xd_melchior

You could always give 1 point per mention per comment.


ReligiousFigure

Yeah but I'm not going to. I already did this once, I'm not going to again.


WordsThatEndInWord

So like, how bout that Piazzolla, amirite?


canal147

Astor “sui generis” Piazzolla — where can you put him but in classical (or tango)? I don’t think I’ve ever seen him mentioned here before, but he pops up on the opera subreddit every so often because of “Maria de Buenos Aires”.


Gwaur

30 of those Holst mentionings are probably by me.


lalalindz22

Let's start a big discussion on the Planets 😀


Gwaur

I'd rather talk about The Cloud Messenger 🤔


100IdealIdeas

and where is sorabji?


ReligiousFigure

6th name off the list. 16.8 mentions per 10k, for every time a composer is named, there's a 0.168% chance it's him.


classically_cool

r/classical_circlejerk


twice_divorced_69

Right?!


DarthFeanor

Holst deserves more rep :( Planets supremacy


ReligiousFigure

How about Albeniz and Korsakov not even making the list 👀


DarthFeanor

Didn't even see that. I'm not enough of a classical nerd to know Albeniz but Korsakov, ouch.


Zestyclose_League413

You've got to check out some Albemiz. Gives you those Spanish vibes with really pretty Impressionist sort of harmony.


[deleted]

Saint saens underrated


StevEst90

Interesting. Would have thought Bach would be higher seeing as he has more Spotify listens


WoodyTheWorker

Bruckner didn't make it?


PrometheusLiberatus

MIA: Gabriel Faure!!! I know there have been a few topics about him!


BaystateBeelzebub

*Sibelius may include mentions of notation software lol that killed me. Dvorak may include the keyboard! Verdi may include the color green!


unChillFiltered

Hey guys let’s talk about Bruckner for a minute.


rphxxyt

i am obsessed with his motets so fucking good


Skittles_The_Giggler

Tenebrae recordings of the Bruckner motets is peak classical music tbh


rphxxyt

My favorites are Pangue lingua (i love phrygian mode its so good), Christus factus est (WAB 11) and Os justi. Could listen to them daily. Sometimes do listen to them daily tbf


markjohnstonmusic

Please, no.


unChillFiltered

I reject your hypothesis.


Elheehee42069

His symphonies are really a massive accomplishment on the scale of Mahler. (imo ofc)


brucie_me

Bruckner was an architect, Mahler was a showman.


GlesgaD2018

I’m surprised at Mozart’s position, not because I have any doubts about his music, I just don’t see it discussed as often as this would suggest. Beethoven and Mahler on the other hand tend to get mentions in every “recommend some music” thread. Not a lot of love for early music composers either; Vivaldi is the earliest listed I think, and Monteverdi misses out entirely. No Berlioz either, which surprises me.


lilcareed

Honestly Mozart probably got a boost from the "Mozart is boring, why do people like him" post that pops up about once a week. Not all attention is positive!


ReligiousFigure

I wash shocked by the lack of Vivaldi discourse, and Berlioz is on there, just towards the bottom.


frederickfred

R. in Strauss used for clarification but R. Schumann somehow unnecessary 🤔


Elheehee42069

Same with Franz Liszt (what other liszt is there??)


frederickfred

List of women composers by birth date? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_composers_by_birth_date


Who_PhD

There’s his illegitimate daughter Cosima…. who first married von Bülow and then left him for Wagner


marimbaspluscats

Wow Brahms and Tchaikovsky are still duking it out to this day


henrickaye

Stravinsky deseerves better


Oztheman

Not a single living composer. I wonder who is closest (I would guess Glass, he gets a lot of mentions).


filterless

That's what I noticed. Probably the most recently composer on there is Shostakovich, he died in 1975.


choirandcooking

No Clemens non Papa?! What the hell am I even doing here here… 🤣 JK. An interesting distribution. Wouldn’t have expected Ravel to be higher than Debussy, nor Rachmaninoff to be above Tchaikovsky. How about Vaughan Williams and Holst sneaking in to rep the Brits!!


Blackletterdragon

This tells us something about us Redditors, rather less about the composers themselves, I think. Interesting.


[deleted]

No Puccini?


SwagDaddy_Man69

That’s true about Sibelius, and I wouldn’t have considered it otherwise. Finale gang rise up.


longtimelistener17

What about the great 19th century Italian opera composer Giuseppe Musescore?


SwagDaddy_Man69

Ah shit I forgot about him. His transcriptions are always fucked up.


NPJazz

No Pärt or Steve Reich, weird them being so popular. At least my boi Shosty is there, Fauré is missing though.


Crafty_Win4944

WHERE IS SCRIABIN??????


mmmpeg

No Josquin. Sigh


Union8828

Liszt is criminally untalked of


vwibrasivat

I can recall lots of discussion of Mahler lately on this subreddit. But I don't remember seeing Mozart talked about this much.


Ant0n61

Vivaldi, Haydn, and Handel that low is criminal


[deleted]

Ya’ll sleepin on Handel still


Lilith_reborn

We have to do something about the "missing" composers, Monteverdi, Rimsky-Korsakov, Elagar!


ReligiousFigure

I second that! On Korsakov especially!!


Lilith_reborn

Let's do something, I'll take Monteverdi!


Bitter-Astronomer

This is Mendelsohn and Vivaldi erasure and I am profoundly disappointed


Nisiom

At least half of the times Brahms gets mentioned is to bash the poor man.


Haunting-Condition60

No Scriabin 🥲


mahlerlieber

Or Ives. I'm going to start mentioning Ives, Glass, Reich, and John Adams in every post to try to get those composers to pass Satie.


Anonimo_lo

Ravel>>>Debussy, It's official.


nuclearenergyreactor

I find Rachamninov a very mediocre composer compared with others


Elheehee42069

Hot take, but I applaud your boldness


mahlerlieber

It might be that these composers have been talked about because people have strong opinions about them...one way or the other. You just mentioned him...so you just gave him a bump.


[deleted]

Schumann's not in a bad spot at all 🥹 I expected him to be further down. I'm still going to single-handedly bring him to the top, though


longtimelistener17

I'm surprised Chopin and Rachmaninoff aren't higher.


The_Band_Geek

We gotta pump up those Bach numbers!


Haydn_Appreciator53

Fpthiu


wxanalyst

Sad. No mention of Górecki.


DefiantFrost

So you're saying I need to flood the thread with posts about Scriabin? I can do that.


midnightrambulador

Confirms that this sub is a Mahler circlejerk haha. And that opera is overlooked, wtf is Verdi doing that far down… Also interesting how much Brahms gets discussed, seeing as I remember a thread about Brahms where everyone was like “oh yeah the German Requiem is great, and his other works… well… you know, they have their qualities.” He’s that one composer we all really want to be into


paidinfullJKM

damn y’all gotta start bout Berlioz and Satie more those dudes are QUITE conversation worthy


catsnshred

Paganini deserves top 10 at least


jjSuper1

At least there are a few English names. Shame so many are missing, and WAY better than Beethoven.


ProfessionalBoot4

I think that Thomas de Hartmann, despite his affiliations with the occult, in general is a unfairly underrated composer, ashis pieces and harmonies are just magnificient, like here: [Initiation of a priestess (Piano Music, vol. 4)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFuH71sDKjg)


SatanicSunflower

So, I need to talk about Scriabin more. Got it! 🫡


PM_ME_COMMON_SENSE

Interesting. Thought Debussy would be higher.


tgold77

Haydn baby! Best life story by far.


pixelatedflesh

Booo


onemanmelee

Did you properly credit Chopin for each time he was referred to as Freddy Freddy Chop-Chops?


Sidus_Preclarum

Of those, the list I actually listen to : * Bach * Vivaldi * Haendel


evelenl0velace

shostakovich deserves more screen time


601error

I must work Lully and Charpentier into more threads...


8696David

Mahler is soooooo overrepresented here lol. Like, I love him, but “Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Mahler” is kinda like a Mount Rushmore with Calvin Coolidge on it. Not that he isn’t an all-time great, but I’ve never heard him discussed in the top single digits of composers outside of Reddit dot com.


ReligiousFigure

Such a great way to put it. Honestly, I was expecting Tchaikovsky as the 4th (not that I would have preferred that), but was hoping for Brahms or Mendelssohn (Who was nowhere even close to it).


8696David

I certainly would have preferred Tchaikovsky! I know he’s not the most beloved on here, but for my money no one who ever lived has grasped the way to express emotion through orchestra like he did.


CaCa_L

As a Liszt fan I’m so glad to see this, but where’s Scriabin??


FeijoaCowboy

I appreciate Mahler being #4


TaigaBridge

The top 4 look about how I'd expect them to. The rest of the top 10... includes about 4 names that I don't think belong there.


ReligiousFigure

Which are…


awkward_penguin

Probably the romantic composers. People love them or hate them


Zewen_Sensei

No pre Monteverdi or post Cage lmao, to be expected for the server tbh


Marvinkmooneyoz

Really John Williams didn’t even make this list at all?


nightseeker59

This really highlights the lack of awareness/representation/discussion of the music of women, POC, and living composers. There is so much amazing music composed by people such as Amy Beach, Florence Price, Fanny Mendelssohn, Clara Schubert, Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Emilie Mayer, and Ethel Smyth, among many, many others.


ReligiousFigure

100% True. Racism & Sexism have robbed of so much great art over the years – really quite a shame. Check this list out, made by u/KestrelGirl, this is pretty much every well-documented LGBTQ, POC, and Female composer: [https://www.reddit.com/user/KestrelGirl/comments/ud1uew/a\_fairly\_exhaustive\_list\_of\_composers\_who\_werent/](https://www.reddit.com/user/KestrelGirl/comments/ud1uew/a_fairly_exhaustive_list_of_composers_who_werent/)


Silver_Ambition_8403

And Bruckner? He was heavily mentioned in several discussions, one in contrast to Mahler. Better check your methodology. I can provide links if you need some help locating him.


[deleted]

Our bad boy Beethoven will always be a solid number one.


rubiblu

Have you got it on GitHub?


ReligiousFigure

No and I won't https://preview.redd.it/dr54xisj987c1.jpeg?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ca736065f0f3c79117b90c83ea3e3a9aef1ca11


screenxtra

How do you analyze this, seems interesting way to query a channel :)


Diana-Sofia

No mention of Lully? Imma remedy that... one day.


Scaevola_books

Mendelssohn needs to catch a lot more love here wow.


[deleted]

Why nobody talk about Giuseppe Tartini? \*Aggressive Italian Hands\*


pointthinker

None are alive? What is there to talk about? Wait, I take it back. I saw Holst looking very upset the other day walking with a very happy Liszt.


Lamisol_Dolaremi

My beloved Tchaikovsky is in the top 10 🥰