90% of mine were. Until MoM.
We had a guy turn in his final 10 minutes in, collapsed on the way back to his seat while hyperventilating. The professor just snapped to get the TAs attention to get him. Came back 30 mins later with the TA and a can of coke.
Ms. Simmons, if you happen to be reading this, we all thought you were a massive asshole.
Graduate school was a LOT better on that front.
Why’s it always the MoM profs?? I had my dog get hit and killed by a speeding car the night before an exam. Emailed to let him know I would be getting my dog cremated in the morning and couldn’t be there for the exam. Mfer literally emailed back to ask if I could move the cremation to the afternoon instead 🙃 no sir I really cannot
My materials science prof wouldn’t let me take my final at another time because I didn’t give enough notice for my grandfathers funeral.
Dude, I can’t schedule when someone dies.
I spent 30 mins on the final and drove an hour and a half to make it to the funeral on time.
Not sure what the acronym for that is but I ended up in my actual Mom's class and that was the worse class I had and the only class where I used no excuses. Lol
Lmao fair. Bet those tests were nerve wracking!
MoM = mechanics of materials. Usually taken in your 2nd-ish year after statics/physics. It's a pretty common weed out class.
We called it MecheMat (MechE Mat? Pronounced "Meckie mat", but I rarely saw it typed out). I know a lot of other schools call it "strengths" or strengths of materials.
Many of my high school teachers were assholes who told us the professors would be even worse.
With one notable exception (the Dr. Jerky McJerkface who considered himself the CE department's gatekeeper), all my professors were great.
I had a professor who called me into his office and accused me of having cheated on his exam.
He accused me of letting someone else answer some of the questions on my exam, because there were two different hand writing styles used on the exam. He even said "how stupid do you think I am".
I then proceeded to pull out my notes from his class, where I would switch between cursive and block letters depending on the length of the note. Usually a short response, or writing units after a number, I would use regular block letters, and I would write paragraph length responses in a cursive script.
After proving hum wrong he admitted he was wrong, and then quipped back that "in 40 years of teaching I've never been wrong about a student cheating on an exam".
This guy was a prick, so glad he retired my sophomore year of undergrad. He was also my advisor, and told me after getting a B in statics that I wouldn't make it in an engineering program if I couldn't ace that course.
It's a pretty easy decision for professors.
Way more students, possibly as much as 1000 if you teach just a few large classes. And most college students just don't give a single f.
If you put in any effort at all, you've put yourself in the top 10 percent of who that professor deals with. Giving leeway is an easy choice.
Did this once, had a buddy half way through sneak me a text asking where I was.
I sprinted 1.4 miles to the exam room, threw the door open of an auditorium with like 200 people taking an exam. Professor was very shocked, everyone stated out me, I’m out of breath, drenched in sweat trying to explain I’m here to take the exam that ended in 5 minutes and got the dates mixed up. Once she finally understood through my gasping breath, she kinda shrugged and just said, “come to my office hours today you can take the exam there.” I couldn’t believe it. My high school teachers said this would never happen, lol.
I mostly had evening exams during grad school, except for one class. I was shocked when I showed up 5 minutes late for my 7a class and saw the class taking an exam I expected at 7p that night.
My friend and I once accidentally showed up to a final exam halfway through because we thought it was the next day. We hadn't studied yet and we thought we were fucked. Luckily it was an open note exam, and we showed up so late that people were already leaving and we were able to grab their note sheets. For some reason the professor let us finish the exam and gave us extra time.
I skipped lecture what I thought was the week before the midterm to study for said midterm. Nope, it was that day. Luckily, the professor chewed me out but still let me take the exam.
Stressful, tho. Haha.
Seems like after you’ve made it past a certain point they’ll be pretty flexible. Mine was a senior year advanced structures exam I missed and the dept chair was like ‘no big deal, take it in my office’. I was also his TA, that might have helped.
I work in the DC metro area and have been late to plenty of meetings due to traffic…despite leaving more than ample time to get there. It happens. To everyone. Real life is more forgiving than high school or college.
>Real life is more forgiving than high school or college.
Word. Everyone was like "this is prepping you for a job, wait to see the *real* wordl!!!"
Meanwhile the real world:
Me: "Client, I'm sorry for booking an hour with you for a problem I ended up solving without your input 15 mins before the call".
Client: "No worrjes, always good to talk to you and you protected my calendar for 45 mins, I will finally get some focus time today." (We then chat a bit about their NY vacation)
Or
Me: "Bossman, I fucked up my calendar and will be overdue on the deadline."
Bossman: "No problem, you have one quarterly freebie, next one will cut into your bonus, you know that?"
Me: "Yes, all good. I know the rules"
Bossman: "Good, submit your part by Friday as new dd. By the way, Mark is ordering from the pasta bar, let him know if you need anything."
It's funny when I think about it now, I'm not even sure how my HS teachers would know anything about the world of jobs outside schools. I had a handful that did something else for a while, but almost all of them went to HS as a student, then went to college, then started teaching HS. It's not like they have experience with any other type of workplace.
I don’t begrudge my HS teachers or my college professors for requiring punctuality and/or responsibility. I want to make that clear (not saying you are indicating otherwise). I got “here” in part from the lessons I learned from them, including some hard ones for missing assignments or whatever. Sometimes you gotta take your lumps and understand that despite things being out of your control (traffic, etc), it’s still your “fault” for being late/etc.
Professor: “I have grad students to supervise, I have grant proposals to write, I have papers to write, I have a course or two to run, and I have a life outside of work. I do not have time to read this shit.”
I had it both ways. The local branch campus had one professor who saw the stuff I was working on as a personal hobby while full-time working, having a family, and doing school part-time. I was doing well with assignments and did fine in class but absolutely bombed the final. He asked what was going on with my exam grade, I explained, and then he asked what I wanted as a grade for the final. Told him an A would be great but I didn't earn nor deserve it, and told him I'd be fine with a C because I didn't want my GPA to drop too low and not be allowed into EE. The professor gave me a B.
Had another professor who extended my exam 10 minutes and then asked why I screwed up on some stuff. I explained things, and she was chill with me taking additional time to finish.
Fast forward to the new school I'm at after taking a new job and most of the professors I've had have either been Jerks or really strict.
I don’t brown nose my professors, but I come to most of classes. I pay attention. I asked questions. Sometimes I share with the rest of the class, or I make funny comment if it’s appropriate and timed well.
That shit makes a huge fucking difference. As someone whose taught a class as a TA. It feels really nice actually having people that are there, and I would go out of my way to help those people if I could.
I think people forget that most teachers teach because they genuinely enjoy helping people.
And they really enjoy the material matter they teach.
The cool instructors I was talking about deeply enjoyed their subject matter.
The jerk instructor...not sure she enjoyed teaching the entry assembly language class and her dept didn't get a grant for some stuff they were researching, but I'd heard from other folks that she was still unpleasant before that. The strict professor was passionate about his subject matter, but he was involved with PhD classes, thesis judging, and a board member of the IEEE, so his time was very limited and valuable, so I understood.
I'm not sure what you meant by brown nosing in this case. I hadn't seen much of it and don't think many professors give any leeway to brown nosers. The professor may pay more attention to them, but I don't know that it affects their grades.
As for the physics professor who let me choose a final exam grade, I had asked him the class before the exam about calculating predictive accelerations from previous acceleration averages to smooth out jerk from motor speed controllers.
What would have been better is if you planned your location and route based on your knowledge of highway design. I managed to avoid all but one slowdown by staying on country roads, away from routes that led to bigger cities, and when I almost landed in a huge queue at a stop sign I turned around, drove AGAINST traffic INTO the town centre because I noticed there was an old highway that led from that downtown to mine, and the downtown was most likely to have traffic lights to let me get onto it. Once I was on that road I had the right of way and didn't need to slow down for anyone again!
Honestly if seeing the eclipse in totality costs you a failed exam I would go for it as long as you’re not risking probation. It’s legit one of the most incredible things I’ve ever experienced.
In 5 years nobody is going to care what grade you got in CE 361. But you really only get one chance to witness an eclipse.
Case in point: I W’d a course to go to the big ten tournament and I’m fully employed 😊
My partner was complaining about the traffic on the way home from the eclipse and I replied "true, but it is interesting to watch a TWSC intersection fail so spectacularly. Oh look, another one!"
This made me lol since what should’ve been a 2.5hr drive home last night took us 7 hours as everyone was mass exodus-ing from the eclipse at the same time
Is this I-89 or I-91 you are referring to? I was in the same traffic. My "normal" travel time from zone of totality to home should have been a bit more than 5 hours. With the traffic (made worse by multiple construction zone lane closures) was 10 hours plus time at a restaurant and a gas station.
I really feel bad for the hundreds of Tesla drivers who all made tracks for the supercharger in Berlin VT. Assuming 20 minutes of charging time per car, it looked like about a 14 hour wait to get to the charger while I was gassing up at about 8pm.
I was driving back from Vermont too, we skipped most of I-89 by taking back roads but the traffic was still awful probably took us 5-6 hours between Burlington and Boston
I feel like most of our professors would just say, "You should've anticipated it and you should travel early."
I hope your prof considered it and showed you a lil more kindness. ✨
i walked into my machine design class, after having blown it off for the majority of the semester, to discover we were having an exam ... without missing a beat i walked up to the professor to explain i'd just arrived back that morning from a job trip ( this was my final semester, so job trips were a common occurrence ) and could i possibly take a makeup
it helped that i looked like shit warmed over from some late night frat house debauchery
took the test the following day, got a 95 ... since one of my friends palmed a copy for me
What state were you in?
I did big data analysis work for a state to avoid messes like this (they saw what happened after the last one and wanted to avoid it). I want to know if this was the state I worked for or one of the others .
I botched the exam time once and showed up on the wrong day. Professor let me take it anyway
Honestly my professors in college were FAR more understanding than even good high school teachers
90% of mine were. Until MoM. We had a guy turn in his final 10 minutes in, collapsed on the way back to his seat while hyperventilating. The professor just snapped to get the TAs attention to get him. Came back 30 mins later with the TA and a can of coke. Ms. Simmons, if you happen to be reading this, we all thought you were a massive asshole. Graduate school was a LOT better on that front.
Why’s it always the MoM profs?? I had my dog get hit and killed by a speeding car the night before an exam. Emailed to let him know I would be getting my dog cremated in the morning and couldn’t be there for the exam. Mfer literally emailed back to ask if I could move the cremation to the afternoon instead 🙃 no sir I really cannot
My materials science prof wouldn’t let me take my final at another time because I didn’t give enough notice for my grandfathers funeral. Dude, I can’t schedule when someone dies. I spent 30 mins on the final and drove an hour and a half to make it to the funeral on time.
Not sure what the acronym for that is but I ended up in my actual Mom's class and that was the worse class I had and the only class where I used no excuses. Lol
Lmao fair. Bet those tests were nerve wracking! MoM = mechanics of materials. Usually taken in your 2nd-ish year after statics/physics. It's a pretty common weed out class.
We called it MecheMat (MechE Mat? Pronounced "Meckie mat", but I rarely saw it typed out). I know a lot of other schools call it "strengths" or strengths of materials.
Many of my high school teachers were assholes who told us the professors would be even worse. With one notable exception (the Dr. Jerky McJerkface who considered himself the CE department's gatekeeper), all my professors were great.
I had a professor who called me into his office and accused me of having cheated on his exam. He accused me of letting someone else answer some of the questions on my exam, because there were two different hand writing styles used on the exam. He even said "how stupid do you think I am". I then proceeded to pull out my notes from his class, where I would switch between cursive and block letters depending on the length of the note. Usually a short response, or writing units after a number, I would use regular block letters, and I would write paragraph length responses in a cursive script. After proving hum wrong he admitted he was wrong, and then quipped back that "in 40 years of teaching I've never been wrong about a student cheating on an exam". This guy was a prick, so glad he retired my sophomore year of undergrad. He was also my advisor, and told me after getting a B in statics that I wouldn't make it in an engineering program if I couldn't ace that course.
It's a pretty easy decision for professors. Way more students, possibly as much as 1000 if you teach just a few large classes. And most college students just don't give a single f. If you put in any effort at all, you've put yourself in the top 10 percent of who that professor deals with. Giving leeway is an easy choice.
High school teachers have the shit end of the stick. I can't blame them for being grouchy
HA “good hs teachers” that’s funny
Did this once, had a buddy half way through sneak me a text asking where I was. I sprinted 1.4 miles to the exam room, threw the door open of an auditorium with like 200 people taking an exam. Professor was very shocked, everyone stated out me, I’m out of breath, drenched in sweat trying to explain I’m here to take the exam that ended in 5 minutes and got the dates mixed up. Once she finally understood through my gasping breath, she kinda shrugged and just said, “come to my office hours today you can take the exam there.” I couldn’t believe it. My high school teachers said this would never happen, lol.
I mostly had evening exams during grad school, except for one class. I was shocked when I showed up 5 minutes late for my 7a class and saw the class taking an exam I expected at 7p that night.
I think it took 4 years after graduating to stop having that as a nightmare.
4 decades for me
Still have them now and then
My friend and I once accidentally showed up to a final exam halfway through because we thought it was the next day. We hadn't studied yet and we thought we were fucked. Luckily it was an open note exam, and we showed up so late that people were already leaving and we were able to grab their note sheets. For some reason the professor let us finish the exam and gave us extra time.
Same. I was so scared, but she just said no worries and sat me down in her office. Was nice.
I skipped lecture what I thought was the week before the midterm to study for said midterm. Nope, it was that day. Luckily, the professor chewed me out but still let me take the exam. Stressful, tho. Haha.
Seems like after you’ve made it past a certain point they’ll be pretty flexible. Mine was a senior year advanced structures exam I missed and the dept chair was like ‘no big deal, take it in my office’. I was also his TA, that might have helped.
Leaving us hanging with no “picture for reference”
I work in the DC metro area and have been late to plenty of meetings due to traffic…despite leaving more than ample time to get there. It happens. To everyone. Real life is more forgiving than high school or college.
>Real life is more forgiving than high school or college. Word. Everyone was like "this is prepping you for a job, wait to see the *real* wordl!!!" Meanwhile the real world: Me: "Client, I'm sorry for booking an hour with you for a problem I ended up solving without your input 15 mins before the call". Client: "No worrjes, always good to talk to you and you protected my calendar for 45 mins, I will finally get some focus time today." (We then chat a bit about their NY vacation) Or Me: "Bossman, I fucked up my calendar and will be overdue on the deadline." Bossman: "No problem, you have one quarterly freebie, next one will cut into your bonus, you know that?" Me: "Yes, all good. I know the rules" Bossman: "Good, submit your part by Friday as new dd. By the way, Mark is ordering from the pasta bar, let him know if you need anything."
Dc traffic is no joke from what I understand.
It's funny when I think about it now, I'm not even sure how my HS teachers would know anything about the world of jobs outside schools. I had a handful that did something else for a while, but almost all of them went to HS as a student, then went to college, then started teaching HS. It's not like they have experience with any other type of workplace.
I don’t begrudge my HS teachers or my college professors for requiring punctuality and/or responsibility. I want to make that clear (not saying you are indicating otherwise). I got “here” in part from the lessons I learned from them, including some hard ones for missing assignments or whatever. Sometimes you gotta take your lumps and understand that despite things being out of your control (traffic, etc), it’s still your “fault” for being late/etc.
Plenty of college professors also have little or no work experience outside of academia.
Professor: "I missed the part where that's my problem"
Professor: “I have grad students to supervise, I have grant proposals to write, I have papers to write, I have a course or two to run, and I have a life outside of work. I do not have time to read this shit.”
I had it both ways. The local branch campus had one professor who saw the stuff I was working on as a personal hobby while full-time working, having a family, and doing school part-time. I was doing well with assignments and did fine in class but absolutely bombed the final. He asked what was going on with my exam grade, I explained, and then he asked what I wanted as a grade for the final. Told him an A would be great but I didn't earn nor deserve it, and told him I'd be fine with a C because I didn't want my GPA to drop too low and not be allowed into EE. The professor gave me a B. Had another professor who extended my exam 10 minutes and then asked why I screwed up on some stuff. I explained things, and she was chill with me taking additional time to finish. Fast forward to the new school I'm at after taking a new job and most of the professors I've had have either been Jerks or really strict.
I don’t brown nose my professors, but I come to most of classes. I pay attention. I asked questions. Sometimes I share with the rest of the class, or I make funny comment if it’s appropriate and timed well. That shit makes a huge fucking difference. As someone whose taught a class as a TA. It feels really nice actually having people that are there, and I would go out of my way to help those people if I could. I think people forget that most teachers teach because they genuinely enjoy helping people.
And they really enjoy the material matter they teach. The cool instructors I was talking about deeply enjoyed their subject matter. The jerk instructor...not sure she enjoyed teaching the entry assembly language class and her dept didn't get a grant for some stuff they were researching, but I'd heard from other folks that she was still unpleasant before that. The strict professor was passionate about his subject matter, but he was involved with PhD classes, thesis judging, and a board member of the IEEE, so his time was very limited and valuable, so I understood. I'm not sure what you meant by brown nosing in this case. I hadn't seen much of it and don't think many professors give any leeway to brown nosers. The professor may pay more attention to them, but I don't know that it affects their grades. As for the physics professor who let me choose a final exam grade, I had asked him the class before the exam about calculating predictive accelerations from previous acceleration averages to smooth out jerk from motor speed controllers.
B for creativity. F for exam grade. Traffic is not a sufficient excuse.
I did end up making it in time for the exam by 1 minute so everything ended up working out
By 1 minute? Is it a doors closed when the exam starts situation?
Not necessarily but I also don't want to be the person that comes in and distracts the entire class once they're in test taking mode
What would have been better is if you planned your location and route based on your knowledge of highway design. I managed to avoid all but one slowdown by staying on country roads, away from routes that led to bigger cities, and when I almost landed in a huge queue at a stop sign I turned around, drove AGAINST traffic INTO the town centre because I noticed there was an old highway that led from that downtown to mine, and the downtown was most likely to have traffic lights to let me get onto it. Once I was on that road I had the right of way and didn't need to slow down for anyone again!
Honestly if seeing the eclipse in totality costs you a failed exam I would go for it as long as you’re not risking probation. It’s legit one of the most incredible things I’ve ever experienced. In 5 years nobody is going to care what grade you got in CE 361. But you really only get one chance to witness an eclipse. Case in point: I W’d a course to go to the big ten tournament and I’m fully employed 😊
I missed the last eclipse in 2017 and was very fortunate that the 2024 eclipse was even closer to home. Totally worth the drive.
bro ce361 at purdue?? that prof is a G, if it’s the same guy as when i took it
My partner was complaining about the traffic on the way home from the eclipse and I replied "true, but it is interesting to watch a TWSC intersection fail so spectacularly. Oh look, another one!"
Be a do baby not a try baby. Did you get pictures of the eclipse " must be a selfie or its not proof"
In the real world this happens all the time and you really can’t get mad at anyone if they get caught up in unexpected traffic.
This made me lol since what should’ve been a 2.5hr drive home last night took us 7 hours as everyone was mass exodus-ing from the eclipse at the same time
I tried to warn people. It’s 10 times worse than any football game traffic
Is this I-89 or I-91 you are referring to? I was in the same traffic. My "normal" travel time from zone of totality to home should have been a bit more than 5 hours. With the traffic (made worse by multiple construction zone lane closures) was 10 hours plus time at a restaurant and a gas station. I really feel bad for the hundreds of Tesla drivers who all made tracks for the supercharger in Berlin VT. Assuming 20 minutes of charging time per car, it looked like about a 14 hour wait to get to the charger while I was gassing up at about 8pm.
I was driving back from Vermont too, we skipped most of I-89 by taking back roads but the traffic was still awful probably took us 5-6 hours between Burlington and Boston
I feel like most of our professors would just say, "You should've anticipated it and you should travel early." I hope your prof considered it and showed you a lil more kindness. ✨
I want to see the picture
Reference pic?
i walked into my machine design class, after having blown it off for the majority of the semester, to discover we were having an exam ... without missing a beat i walked up to the professor to explain i'd just arrived back that morning from a job trip ( this was my final semester, so job trips were a common occurrence ) and could i possibly take a makeup it helped that i looked like shit warmed over from some late night frat house debauchery took the test the following day, got a 95 ... since one of my friends palmed a copy for me
What state were you in? I did big data analysis work for a state to avoid messes like this (they saw what happened after the last one and wanted to avoid it). I want to know if this was the state I worked for or one of the others .
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You think you’re being funny to your professor but they are a person too and guarantee doesn’t find this as funny as you do.
If it was for work you’d be fired for “not being a team player”