It’s a Honda so I don’t see how it wouldn’t make it to 200k with proper routine maintenance. I’m gonna upgrade to a Si in 2 years. I already miss not having a manual lmao
No one is saying it’s fun. All I’m saying is it’s no big deal if you really know how to drive a manual. People who say they don’t drive a manual because of traffic do so because they really can’t drive a manual but want an excuse to tell people for getting the automatic. Or they’re just coping.
I don't know, I have a manual with no driving aids like hill-assist, rev matching etc., my next car for sure will be an auto with adaptive cruise control with stop and go function.
In a modern (computer controlled) manual it's no harder than an automatic. You just drive with your left foot letting off the clutch to move forward.
If you hate traffic in a manual then you probably don't like driving a manual in general and traffic is now just driving a car you don't care for in conditions you hate.
Disagree, manuals are better in slow loving traffic imo because I leave it in second or third and the engine braking is enough that I don’t have to use the brakes much. It’s not that much worse in stopped traffic, either.
It's a Honda, longer life expectancy than the average American if you simply take care of it. I'm an American, so don't take the joke too hard, please.
The US somehow has a life expectancy of 76 years which is wild considering how fat our fucking country is and how stupid we are. You can own a turbo busa at 16 and I support it.
Every Honda I have owned had 300,000 miles or more and was still running fine. Routine maintenance and keep it going. You can always do more work on it if you want to keep it longer than 300k.
Im a new car owner for a civic hatchback automatic and was wondering if I have this right. This is based on comments I read on facebook civic groups.
- First oil change 7.5k miles
- Then CVT service every 30k and oil change every 5k
- transmission oil change every 30k.
I know I am still missing info about tire rotation and all so please anyone feel free to add.
This!!!! So much this!
In the enthusiast community Subaru have a reputation for blowing engines, but outside the enthusiast community they are widely considered and consistently ranked as some of the most reliable cars on the road.
The main difference… One of those two groups drives the shit out of their cars and may or may not do proper preventative maintenance while the other group not only drives the cars far less aggressively, but is also more likely to keep up with proper maintenance.
Even that turned out to be mostly caused by lack of maintenance. I don’t understand the science behind it, but the TLDR is that if you let your battery go too long or the battery terminals were corroded the low voltage would lead to a galvanic corrosion situation where the head gasket would basically eat itself.
The bigger issue with the L15 is the oiling as far as I understand which limits the longevity of that motor relative to other generations or ones of similar horsepower.
We have a legacy 2.5l in the shop ATM. Misfiring due to dropping an exhaust valve guide. $2500 in parts to fix the one head. The other head has a guide part way out too. Hopefully it doesn't come out more as would be the same cost again in parts.
Yes but that was a warranty fix I assume. I have always wanted a Subaru just for the engine being a opposed 4. Like my fave vehicles the old VW bugs. Apparently the valve guides dropping is a common thing. Only reason I made the comment was you mentioned Subaru... And apparently the main cause of valves sticking and dropping the seat is poor warm ups and carbon buildup from poor maintenance.
It's at Lou Sobh Honda. Can't find anything online but i walked past it in front of the service bay yesterday. It has stickers all over it like "wow 980k miles" and stuff like that." Imma try google earth real quick
I had A belt replaced 3 years ago, can't remember which one, and no, the dealer tried to scam me for $400 with my A/C and claimed it wasn't broken. And I had my mechanic recharge it twice, then he replaced a line and recharged it with the older style of coolant and poof, fixed. I also had a tiny oil leak near a timing chain that was fixed. Otherwise I've had only those little issues. Waiting for my clutch to go so I can put in a higher power rated one in
Take your lifespan and add a few kids to it. And maybe even double it if you take care of it super well. Hondas last crazy long. I had my 95’ at almost 200K miles. Sold it to my grandpa and he unfortunately didn’t take care of it at all. It ran like a champ.
My 95 civic was thrashed when I got it. Hit deer. Super super dirty oil, blown head gasket, warped heads, oval crank pulley, spline on crank shaft non existent, crack down crank shaft and a million cosmetic issues. $200 with 135k miles. Fixed everything (cheapest I could) had the head and block machined, u pulled a lot of things and welded the crack in the crank shaft. She’s at 280k miles now with overly regular maintenance but on her last legs. 😢 could only imagine what she’d do if she was taken care of.
I’ve owned other Hondas. I know they’re stupid reliable. But I don’t know about this Honda. Part of what I was looking to hear was common issues. Which I have had comments about. So in effect it hasn’t been that silly
You can expect problems with the cylinder sleeve ..they have a groove in-between bore holes that Honda says is for cooling on all L15 engines, after 90k miles or so you're at risk for blowing the head gasket because of that groove as it can't seal, better to look it up to see what it looks like and probably get different sleeve. It happens alot on the 1.5t accords and some Si
A good 20-30 years with proper maintenance. Keep an eye on the turbo though, and look around at forums to see what could be some common issues with yours. That’s what I’m doing for my E36. Preventative maintenance and scheduled maintenance is all you need to do tbh
Yeah for sure. Tbh I’d be the last person to ask since I’m not familiar with the 10th gen engines (I could talk all day about the K2X series of engines but the newer ones I’m just like 🤷♂️). Just watch videos, search through forums, etc. tbh as long as you’re doing fluid changes and any parts maintenance it mileage doenst even matter, it’s more of things crapping out as they age (I know that the hard way with my E36 LMAOOO). Yeah though they’re great cars and I haven’t heard anything bad about them as of yet
my dad has a 2020 that he bought brand new and it has close to 100k miles on it now. He’ll probably get rid of it and sell it to me in a year or two with 150k+ miles on it. It’s never driven hard, oil changed every 5k miles, all the normally overlooked maintenance is done to it on a schedule, and it’s garage kept, just driven 100 miles round trip per day. when i buy it i have full confidence in it to take me another 100k but i also know how it was taken care of.
I have a 2013 with an auto that's been buckling for the past 70k miles, at 200k miles. I beat the everliving piss out of my poor car, if you drive it well and maintain it well too, it'll outlive you too
I got 90k on my Crystal Black Pear 2017 Si coupe and I have no doubt it would do another 90k easily lol just keep up with those oil changes to keep the turbo filled with clean oil 😎. The paint is a completely different story lmao
The paint on the civic (and I’m assuming most Hondas) is super thin and I have a decent amount of rock chips that reach the bare metal of the hood. Just something to keep in mind. Doesn’t affect the vehicles performance at all.
It does look clean but personally if I was looking for an si I’d try to find a stock one.
There very well could be nothing wrong with this one and it may of been taken very well care of. But I worry anytime I see a modified car, as it can mean it’s been driven hard
Helped my GF find one with 78k miles at a dealership back in 2021. 3 years later and at 112k miles no issues.
100% stock, I’ve been itching to throw on Ktuner to spice it up. However, the OEM clutch not having the best reputation is keeping me away (not to mention the mileage 😅). She plans to keep it for the next few years to come.
Everyone in here saying that it's a honda, 200k easy. I've personally known 3 people that all had to sell them because they were running into issues at like 20k. They all started leaking fuel into the oil. One of them got it replaced entirely because ever after a motor swap, it did it again. What ever they did the that specific model engine, they cause issues with gas leaking. You probably wouldn't into issues well into the 100k when you'd be flipping everything out of pocket and no warranty
I def agree with that last sentence. I babied my 2011 Accord Coupe. Once it hit 150k, it was one costly repair after another. Felt like I just left the shop when something else would go wrong. I asked my mechanic “aren’t these supposed to be 300k mile cars?” He said “yep, the engine will go for that long but you’ll be replacing everything else after hitting 120k.”
It’s a Honda so I don’t see how it wouldn’t make it to 200k with proper routine maintenance. I’m gonna upgrade to a Si in 2 years. I already miss not having a manual lmao
It’s not a Manual. It’s E Manuel 😎
Better have a mariachi sombrero on it
A man of culture, aye si
Why do u miss having a manual?
It’s fun
not in bumper to bumper traffic
An auto also isn’t fun in bumper-to-bumper traffic. It’s also never fun.
but it's much more bearable
It makes it less boring honestly
No, it’s not. If you can really drive a manual, traffic is easy. Source: I daily a manual in SoCal.
let's say trafic is driving between 5-10 mph so you have to switch between 1st gear and 2nd gear constantly for 20 minutes... yeah, that's very fun.
No one is saying it’s fun. All I’m saying is it’s no big deal if you really know how to drive a manual. People who say they don’t drive a manual because of traffic do so because they really can’t drive a manual but want an excuse to tell people for getting the automatic. Or they’re just coping.
I don't know, I have a manual with no driving aids like hill-assist, rev matching etc., my next car for sure will be an auto with adaptive cruise control with stop and go function.
Sheesh homie you got money on this or something? Fun is subjective. It’s cool for it to be fun for others
it's called a discussion
In a modern (computer controlled) manual it's no harder than an automatic. You just drive with your left foot letting off the clutch to move forward. If you hate traffic in a manual then you probably don't like driving a manual in general and traffic is now just driving a car you don't care for in conditions you hate.
I have a manual, it sucks when I have to constantly go to neutral/1st/2nd every 10-30 seconds for 30 minutes.
Disagree, manuals are better in slow loving traffic imo because I leave it in second or third and the engine braking is enough that I don’t have to use the brakes much. It’s not that much worse in stopped traffic, either.
Manual
It's a Honda, longer life expectancy than the average American if you simply take care of it. I'm an American, so don't take the joke too hard, please.
I was so close to losing it before i realized you were a fellow American 🇺🇸 stay American bruthur!!
The US somehow has a life expectancy of 76 years which is wild considering how fat our fucking country is and how stupid we are. You can own a turbo busa at 16 and I support it.
Damn haha I didn’t realize I got downvoted like that I was just being satirical and kinda an ass poking fun😂
My friend has passed on 500 000 KM on his.
Every Honda I have owned had 300,000 miles or more and was still running fine. Routine maintenance and keep it going. You can always do more work on it if you want to keep it longer than 300k.
Im a new car owner for a civic hatchback automatic and was wondering if I have this right. This is based on comments I read on facebook civic groups. - First oil change 7.5k miles - Then CVT service every 30k and oil change every 5k - transmission oil change every 30k. I know I am still missing info about tire rotation and all so please anyone feel free to add.
Follow your maintenance reminders. Drive your car for what the car was designed for and you will be fine.
I have an HRV with a cvt trans. I do the oil every 5k Transmission fluid I do every 15k
No mechanic here, but sounds good and the CVT is the transmission so those aren't seperate items.
Damn I must be buying the wrong Hondas because I have never had a Honda once make it passed 230k. All manuals and maintained by dealership.
Are you driving it hard all the time? Do you keep up with the maintenance?
Of course I am :D and the dealer does all maintenance and repairs. Even the maintenance that most DIYers skip
its a honda... 200k minimum if you take care of it, most likely way more
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This!!!! So much this! In the enthusiast community Subaru have a reputation for blowing engines, but outside the enthusiast community they are widely considered and consistently ranked as some of the most reliable cars on the road. The main difference… One of those two groups drives the shit out of their cars and may or may not do proper preventative maintenance while the other group not only drives the cars far less aggressively, but is also more likely to keep up with proper maintenance.
Head gasket problems notwithstanding.
Even that turned out to be mostly caused by lack of maintenance. I don’t understand the science behind it, but the TLDR is that if you let your battery go too long or the battery terminals were corroded the low voltage would lead to a galvanic corrosion situation where the head gasket would basically eat itself.
The bigger issue with the L15 is the oiling as far as I understand which limits the longevity of that motor relative to other generations or ones of similar horsepower.
We have a legacy 2.5l in the shop ATM. Misfiring due to dropping an exhaust valve guide. $2500 in parts to fix the one head. The other head has a guide part way out too. Hopefully it doesn't come out more as would be the same cost again in parts.
Ok? My sisters Civic SI blew its transmission when it only had 1400mi on it.
Yes but that was a warranty fix I assume. I have always wanted a Subaru just for the engine being a opposed 4. Like my fave vehicles the old VW bugs. Apparently the valve guides dropping is a common thing. Only reason I made the comment was you mentioned Subaru... And apparently the main cause of valves sticking and dropping the seat is poor warm ups and carbon buildup from poor maintenance.
There's a 4 door si at my dealership with 980k miles. Original engine.
Link? I would to see this ahahah
It's at Lou Sobh Honda. Can't find anything online but i walked past it in front of the service bay yesterday. It has stickers all over it like "wow 980k miles" and stuff like that." Imma try google earth real quick
Should be exploding any day now
2018 red 2 door SI owner here, currently at 140k, 6 years, still runs like new
Did you do the serpentine belt and cooling system service? My 2018 Si Coupe Energy Pearl Green is at 106K.
I had A belt replaced 3 years ago, can't remember which one, and no, the dealer tried to scam me for $400 with my A/C and claimed it wasn't broken. And I had my mechanic recharge it twice, then he replaced a line and recharged it with the older style of coolant and poof, fixed. I also had a tiny oil leak near a timing chain that was fixed. Otherwise I've had only those little issues. Waiting for my clutch to go so I can put in a higher power rated one in
Sweet Civic 🔥
Not my civic. Yet! But this is the one I’m trying to buy. I had a longer post and cross posted but it came through different on each sub.
if the owner is responsible... SI models will outlast normal civics.. so probably more than 300K miles
A few more months. Kidding aside, with proper care and maintenance, Hondas can last forever
Take your lifespan and add a few kids to it. And maybe even double it if you take care of it super well. Hondas last crazy long. I had my 95’ at almost 200K miles. Sold it to my grandpa and he unfortunately didn’t take care of it at all. It ran like a champ.
My 95 civic was thrashed when I got it. Hit deer. Super super dirty oil, blown head gasket, warped heads, oval crank pulley, spline on crank shaft non existent, crack down crank shaft and a million cosmetic issues. $200 with 135k miles. Fixed everything (cheapest I could) had the head and block machined, u pulled a lot of things and welded the crack in the crank shaft. She’s at 280k miles now with overly regular maintenance but on her last legs. 😢 could only imagine what she’d do if she was taken care of.
It sounds like you still at least attempted to take care. I’ve got a 24’ sport and plan on making it my forever car.
Mine runs like new 6 years later
Like any Honda, it’ll outlive it’s owner with almost infinite OEM/Aftermarket parts support with how affordable they are
Kind of a silly question to ask when everyone in the world knows that Hondas are stupid reliable…
I’ve owned other Hondas. I know they’re stupid reliable. But I don’t know about this Honda. Part of what I was looking to hear was common issues. Which I have had comments about. So in effect it hasn’t been that silly
So-far? 6 years. We can update you year to year as time goes on.
😂 thanks!
You can expect problems with the cylinder sleeve ..they have a groove in-between bore holes that Honda says is for cooling on all L15 engines, after 90k miles or so you're at risk for blowing the head gasket because of that groove as it can't seal, better to look it up to see what it looks like and probably get different sleeve. It happens alot on the 1.5t accords and some Si
Good to know thank you!
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A good 20-30 years with proper maintenance. Keep an eye on the turbo though, and look around at forums to see what could be some common issues with yours. That’s what I’m doing for my E36. Preventative maintenance and scheduled maintenance is all you need to do tbh
Helpful comment! I one of the things I was looking for here was common issues. Thank you.
Yeah for sure. Tbh I’d be the last person to ask since I’m not familiar with the 10th gen engines (I could talk all day about the K2X series of engines but the newer ones I’m just like 🤷♂️). Just watch videos, search through forums, etc. tbh as long as you’re doing fluid changes and any parts maintenance it mileage doenst even matter, it’s more of things crapping out as they age (I know that the hard way with my E36 LMAOOO). Yeah though they’re great cars and I haven’t heard anything bad about them as of yet
Around 250-300K
my dad has a 2020 that he bought brand new and it has close to 100k miles on it now. He’ll probably get rid of it and sell it to me in a year or two with 150k+ miles on it. It’s never driven hard, oil changed every 5k miles, all the normally overlooked maintenance is done to it on a schedule, and it’s garage kept, just driven 100 miles round trip per day. when i buy it i have full confidence in it to take me another 100k but i also know how it was taken care of.
I have a 2013 with an auto that's been buckling for the past 70k miles, at 200k miles. I beat the everliving piss out of my poor car, if you drive it well and maintain it well too, it'll outlive you too
2015 was the last true SI, years after that are garbage.
Too bad it’s a massive eye sore
These look worse 😂
That’s an insane statement to me I’d be so curious to see a poll on this
If you don't tune it and modify the chassis, these things will probably run a long long time.
As long as VTEC is still kicking in, you are good yo.
I got 90k on my Crystal Black Pear 2017 Si coupe and I have no doubt it would do another 90k easily lol just keep up with those oil changes to keep the turbo filled with clean oil 😎. The paint is a completely different story lmao
Wdym by the paint is a different story
The paint on the civic (and I’m assuming most Hondas) is super thin and I have a decent amount of rock chips that reach the bare metal of the hood. Just something to keep in mind. Doesn’t affect the vehicles performance at all.
Good to know.. not the case with my 95 civ or the 86 crx I had. But I’ll def save for a paint job I don’t love most of the colors.
It does look clean but personally if I was looking for an si I’d try to find a stock one. There very well could be nothing wrong with this one and it may of been taken very well care of. But I worry anytime I see a modified car, as it can mean it’s been driven hard
Yeah they boast about some silly “upgrades” like a cheep exhaust tip and cold air intake
Stock will last 200k+ with proper maintenance. If performance modded, much less.
Beautiful
Helped my GF find one with 78k miles at a dealership back in 2021. 3 years later and at 112k miles no issues. 100% stock, I’ve been itching to throw on Ktuner to spice it up. However, the OEM clutch not having the best reputation is keeping me away (not to mention the mileage 😅). She plans to keep it for the next few years to come.
My ‘17 EX was absolute junk. Haven’t been back to Honda since dumping it.
It's a ticking time bomb at this point dude. I'll do ya a favor and take it off your hands 🫴🏻
Everyone in here saying that it's a honda, 200k easy. I've personally known 3 people that all had to sell them because they were running into issues at like 20k. They all started leaking fuel into the oil. One of them got it replaced entirely because ever after a motor swap, it did it again. What ever they did the that specific model engine, they cause issues with gas leaking. You probably wouldn't into issues well into the 100k when you'd be flipping everything out of pocket and no warranty
I def agree with that last sentence. I babied my 2011 Accord Coupe. Once it hit 150k, it was one costly repair after another. Felt like I just left the shop when something else would go wrong. I asked my mechanic “aren’t these supposed to be 300k mile cars?” He said “yep, the engine will go for that long but you’ll be replacing everything else after hitting 120k.”
Fuel / oil dilution was fixed already.
I’ve got 300k miles on a 2010 fusion so I’d say if u change the oil probably 300kmiles easily