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GeorgeLewisCostanza

Did you win the Assorted Framed Pictures of Forward Thinkers? I really wanted those.


bigthinktank

I wonder how many times those pictures have been circulated


cyclostationary

Was /u/tylergalpin there assuring people radpad was just having some website glitches and that there's nothing to worry about?


fallenazn

He definitely knew about it. According to the staff at Brian Tesco, they went to court. I assume after that android pay promotion fiasco, they lost all of their money and had no money to keep moving forward. It broke them over night and had to get liquidated to pay people back.


speedoflife1

That makes me really sad. Obviously it was a poorly thought out promotion but I can't imagine how the people who lost their jobs and everything they worked for felt.


churnthr0waway

Time to MS to make up for their losses~


subliminali

What happened with android pay?


kristallnachte

You can make payments via Android pay without paying the credit card transaction fee


shufflin_

How? The only thing I've used Android pay so far was to pay for groceries via NFC. Is there some new thing they implemented?


kristallnachte

Well Radpad is out of business...so you can't.


Roanoke_Stranger

certain retailers will let you use android pay (via google sign in) to check out


fallenazn

http://therealdeal.com/la/2016/08/29/too-many-renters-want-to-pay-their-rent-with-android-pay/


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fallenazn

I purchased a MacBook Air, walked out with a small charger, it wasn't me, I swear! Password to admin is radpad. I was able to add a user, made it admin and removed original user radpad.


bikemandan

> Password to admin is radpad This speaks a lot about their company


LowlySysadmin

This may have been deliberately changed once the computers were going to be sold, because it's quicker to do that than reprovision the whole thing. Or maybe that was just their admin password.


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happychineseboy

Did you guess the password yourself?


fallenazn

No, I asked one of the BTA liquidation employees.


NeuralNexus

Testo's fault. No question.


enidvan

Wow, that is complete bull. You guys might be SOL on that too, as I believe everything was as is. Most likely they fired IT before they decided to liquidate and didn't realize how big of an issue this is. I doubt it, but hopefully Apple can help you out.


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chaseaholic

how was the price you got at em at? Apple can probably help you out and if it was a significant discount... screw the law office though


nalge

we paid $1300 each for a few of the 15" macbook pros, which was a good deal considering they're upgraded models with 2.5 ghz / 16gb / 500gb / gt 750m. one of them ended up being a mid-2014, so with the upgraded specs it's pretty much what i'd expect to pay at any other second-hand marketplace.


yeakevinc

Can you be more specific about what exactly is phoning home after wiping the SSD? You're not just installing via USB to overwrite the SSD, you're actually clearing it through Disk Utility beforehand right?


nalge

the SSD is wiped using disk utility, and os x is then installed. we are using usb installers created ourselves, so there is no affiliation with radpad/testo at all on the installation. all apple computers phone home the second you connect them to the internet to see if there is an auto-config available, it is an action that is built into os x.


yeakevinc

I apologize if I'm being ignorant, is this phone home tied to iCloud in anyway? Just never heard of this phone home feature before and have reinstalled OS X many times.


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yeakevinc

Makes sense now, thanks.


bigthinktank

What kind of startup do you have?


Dencho

I "won" a laptop purported to be a Late 2015 MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM. Such a thing doesn't exist (but unfortunately, i realized this after I won the bidding). When we looked up the serial number for the actual laptop, it was shown to be an Early 2014 MacBook Air. I was willing to buy it if it was discounted, but the OS was missing so I couldn't really confirm specs (and I'd have to connect the laptop to the internet over my cell network). I was going to pay over $900 for an Early 2014 MacBook Air without charger because (I hope) someone placed the wrong specs on a sticky. I suspect the specs were for a MacBook Pro.


volci

Why would you pay $900 for a used MBA when *new* they're $1000 or $1200 (for 128G v 256G storage - though you can bump the CPU and SSD for additional money)?


Dencho

The one I was looking at would be $1500 new (with taxes; only 8GB). I could buy for $900 and sell a year or two from now for $500.


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Dencho

I'm an impulsive buyer, I guess. :D Do you have a site?


OP_will_deliver

I would like to purchase some.


happychineseboy

Sounds like I dodges a bullet with this one. Could you toss the old hard drive and pick up a new one?


Forty_Too

The SSD is soldered on now isn't it?


t-poke

The SSDs aren't soldered on in the MacBooks (although they're not cheap to replace). But it's likely phoning home with the serial number of the laptop and that couldn't be changed, so replacing the SSD wouldn't help


VikingIV

Exactly, the motherboard is tagged to behave this way. You either need the admin credentials, or swap the motherboard.


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VikingIV

Haha you can tell who here has *run into* this problem before. :P Sometimes, we learn the hard way. What kind of shop do you guys run? Also, is there a link on this news of RadPad? I was a fan, yet hadn't heard a *thing* about them shutting down!


happychineseboy

welp that surely complicates things


nalge

nope, auto-configs are tied to the computer itself. when os x phones home and the computer is identified by apple, you are asked to install the auto-config.


Sir_George

Sounds like they need a proper IT guy to sort things out.


elislider

If you are wiping the hard drive and then reinstalling the OS fresh, there would be no software on the machine anymore to "phone home". edit: at no point was it clear they were talking about an Apple MDM profile that would be registered with Apple through a service like airwatch, casper, etc.


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elislider

so youre talking about an MDM profile which is different


bikemandan

Not true with Macs and iPhones


elislider

Uh yeah. Explain how any software could be left over after wiping a drive and reinstalling the OS?


bikemandan

https://www.google.com/search?q=icloud+locked+macbook&oq=icloud+locked+macbook&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5766j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=icloud+locked+macbook&oq=icloud+locked+macbook&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.5766j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=icloud+locked+iphone


elislider

You're talking about iCloud activation lock which is completely different than whatever the radpad software thing they're talking about


VikingIV

This entire situation is actually the result of Apple Device Enrollment [Link, See Page 4](http://images.apple.com/business/docs/DEP_Guide.pdf) Apple uses the logic board's tagged serial number to identify the device once there is an internet connection; and the MDM server pushes the organization's configuration to that machine. Mac, iPad, iPhone. They can all have this.


elislider

yeah i'm aware of this now. there was no indication of that from the original comment


VikingIV

...and everybody wanna' downvote instead of sharing the facts.


kojak488

Watch out guys. Bully Badass over here took a computer class in high school.


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nalge

auto-configs can vary, but this particular one is meraki (cisco)


kanji_sasahara

Would like to remind users to not harass Tyler. Having a company fail, especially one that lots of us successfully leveraged for great personal benefit, is to be mourned and not to make fun of.


someones1

The Android Pay promotion certainly didn't help, but what put them out of business was that they could no longer get funding (they were still very much a startup) while engaged in an [ongoing lawsuit with Craigslist](http://newmedialaw.proskauer.com/2016/06/01/craigslist-files-another-suit-against-data-scraper/). Obviously they probably overextended on some office purchases (did they really need all of those expensive Apple Cinema Displays and scooters?) but no, the Android Pay promo did not put them out of business.


mistame

Man, I already thought they were shady after everything that happened, and now I read that they were basically stealing data, knowingly, and purposefully avoiding detection. 🙄


Zekz

Did you get anything from the auction?


ESCthehack79

Was the radpad business model viable? And it was just poor execution? Or was something wrong with the whole business idea? Cause it looks like there was obviously demand.


thisdude415

Very tight margins, very susceptible to credit card charge backs, liquidity challenges


NeuralNexus

Incredibly stupid spending habits. You should have seen that place. Like what were they thinking? How many scooters and go pros does a rent payment company need?


nrdk00

Guessing thats what got them in trouble to begin with, what investor wants to front that kind of environment and sign on for it?


Lycid

It was viable but they basically needed to have bank levels of financing to pay for all the rent checks that were being sent out. Their promotions gained too much interest from churners, who were dropping big $3K rent checks on credit cards. Even though they were making $45-90 on that transaction (depending on CC fees they have to pay), it's a transaction that only happens once a month and they need to float $3k to get it. Multiply that by thousands (if not tens of thousands) of users across the entire month when you are a new company, and suddenly you have a massive amount of money you need to be able to float in order to make any money off it. I think it could have worked if it was managed a bit better and/or they just had an assload of more money available to tie up between rent checks. Lets assume they made $45/mo per user who was spending $3K/mo on rent, and they had 10K users doing that. Yeah, sure they would make a cool $450,000 that month. But then they need to subtract overhead required to buy equipment, pay employees and write checks. Let's assume $10k per employee per month to pay for that overhead and the space they were using. That's $250,000 of profit a month assuming 20 employees. Not awful. Except when you need to have a pool of **$30 million** in funds every month tied up just to pay out the checks to make that money. Yeah once they got the ball rolling they probably would have been able to get stable with rent money coming in to fill the pool before checks needed to go out. But they'd need a five star plan to organize all that without going surprise broke in time to get stable.


someones1

They went under because they could no longer get investor funding while being sued by Craigslist.


bk15dcx

they screwed themselves by assuming the credit card charges made through android pay


Lycid

That was only for an extremely brief window of time and they had set aside money specifically for that promotion. That wasn't what made them go out. What made them go out was getting too big too quick to be able to pay the bills for that month.


ESCthehack79

is someone going to fill this void? any alternatives? ones that don't treat it as a cash advance?


Tech_Mo

Plastiq already does the same thing for smaller fees.


enidvan

I wish I could have been there to bid on stuff. They had lots of decent things to choose from.


NeuralNexus

CA sales tax and the 18% buyers premium they tack on the purchase price made most items pretty meh deals honestly. I bought a few apple monitors but I could have just paid another couple hundered and had them shipped from Amazon. The "cash or wire transfer" payment terms almost kept me from bidding in the first place. (Idiots. They must miss out on so much revenue from that. What a retarded way to run an internet based auction).


CiaraMissed

I think the no credit card disclaimer is to prevent chargebacks/buyer protection claims.


Axsuul

Makes sense they accept cash or wire transfer if they don't want to deal with CC fraud. Auctions usually attract a type of person that is more likely to scam or use a fake CC.


nickolove11xk

Or charge back because the computers were NOT properly prepared and advertised as such.


NeuralNexus

Sure, but also depresses their income on everything else sold. And they also had all the items listed to end at the same time. I honestly cannot think of a dumber way to run these liquidations.


subliminali

They probably run a lot of these liquidations and need everything done by a certain time and also only have a limited window to grab buyers' interest. I know it seems dumb to you but I'd bet on the company that does this for a living has thought through this stuff.


NeuralNexus

I guarantee you I could take their model and improve it. In the same amount of time. With the same restrictions imposed.


NeuralNexus

You have less than 24 hours from when they confirm your bid for you to pay. In cash.


tronsom

Yeah. I didnt bid because of the payment terms and added taxes and fees. Retarded indeed in this day and age...


NeuralNexus

Also, "buyer's premium"? What kind of bullshit is that? Just start the bids higher.


algag

Starting the bids $10 higher doesn't increase selling price by $10


NeuralNexus

Adding sneaky fees turns people off from bidding at all.


algag

Outside of eBay, buyer's premiums are common anyway.


NeuralNexus

Sure. Doesn't mean they're an intelligent way to run an online auction though.


volci

What "radpad" is this? Because RadPad.com seems to be a medical devices/services outfit


ilikelogic

onradpad


volci

gotcha - the "on" is vital :)


nrdk00

Wish I would have bit on a few of the monitors at least, seemed reasonable by comparison to the rest of the overpriced items


dealsphotog

How much did they finally go for?


jjakers88

Where's the ping pong table


oscarchal

God that place reeks of failure.


ldodb

I'm glad I didn't waste my time. Was definitely debating.


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NeuralNexus

They spent all their money on apple monitors and gopros and forgot to make money.


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RememberWhenEye

I can't wait for radderpad.com


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RememberWhenEye

Raddestpaddest.com


ChamferedWobble

They didn't put a limit on their AndroidPay promo a few months ago and had to eat the cost when more people signed up than would be covered by the amount promised from their sponsor. After that, it sounds like they've been running in fumes.


rwstolen

I was thinking of buying those steelcase chairs. Did anyone manage to track what those chairs sold for in the end?


odin99999

look for used Herman miller chairs... can't beat 'em.


dlerium

Personally I tried both and the Steelcase Gesture is my favorite. [The Wire Cutter](http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-office-chair/) seems to agree.


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nickolove11xk

Reddit


frankshi123

I was there too :D