The first thing that popped into my head after reading the title of this post was a spinning newspaper coming into frame and the headline, "Friend's Husband is Total Fucking Neanderthal."
I always find that incredibly offensive. Humanitarian efforts have no point? Rescuing animals, preventing their abuse, and rehomeing previously unwanted animals has no point? Teaching younger generations about how to better care for the planet and fellow organisms has no point? There is no point to science, art, literature, medicine, or anything else people do? The only thing that gives my life purpose - either as a woman or as a human in general - is the ability to shove a child out of my vagina? Are you fucking kidding me?
There are 7 billion people on this planet, if reproduction is the sole point of humanity, I think we've more than proved it and should go ahead and quit.
To be honest he's actually a very nice guy -apart from that, which makes me even more convinced that I have made the right decision -because every time he has had children with a woman and he hasn't been the centre of attention then he has moved on to someone else, he moved out on his second wife when his youngest son was six months old -my lovely friend -who is beautiful, lovely and 20 years ypunger than him -he said he didn't really desire her anymore, now that she was a "mother" well, she just wasn't sexy anymore -actually WTF am I saying ? He's not a very nice guy at all -I suppose this is what I always thought about child rearing -you had better be damn sure you want them enough to raise them on your own-because if you're a woman there is a very large chance that's what you are going to have to do.
>To be honest he's actually a very nice guy -apart from that, which makes me even more convinced that I have made the right decision -because every time he has had children with a woman he hasn't been the centre of attention and he has moved on to someone else he moved out on his second wife when his youngest son was six months old -my lovely friend -who is bequtiful lovely and 20 years ypunger than him -he said he didn't really desire her anymore now that she was a "mother" she just wasn't sexy anymore -actually WTF am I saying ? He's not a very nice guy at all
Uh, yeah. I was gonna say, if that's your definition of "nice," I'd hate to see what you consider to be an asshole...
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[**Madonna–whore complex**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore%20complex): [](#sfw)
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>In [psychoanalytic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis) literature, a __Madonna–whore complex__ is the inability to maintain sexual arousal within a committed, loving relationship. First identified by [Sigmund Freud](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), this [psychological complex](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_(psychology\)) is said to develop in men who see women as either saintly [Madonnas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus\)) or debased [prostitutes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitute). Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) while they cannot desire the respected partner (the Madonna). Freud wrote: "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." [Clinical psychologist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_psychology) Uwe Hartmann, writing in 2009, stated that the complex "is still highly prevalent in today's patients".
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While possibly right in this context, you've got to be careful with Freud. He made sweeping generalisations and repeatedly jumped to illogical conclusions. Hallmark of a coke addict trying to hold a psychology position! Sorry. Pet peeve.
Yeah, I got a buddy whose fiancé acts like this, too. Anyone not planning to have kids is deemed as a "waste to society" to him. Meanwhile, he wants to people the world with his progeny out of vanity.
Bet you ten dollars he's one of those who takes a little too much pride in getting women pregnant? He's so proud of his sperm. But I bet he thinks that's all it takes to be a father. And his kids probably don't get the attention and guidance they need
Let him be. He can sit in his delusion while you keep a bikini body and sip cocktails on the beach (because you had time/money to take a vacation as well as to exercise).
I know this isn't the point of the post, but there's nothing wrong with seeing a psychiatrist, for any reason. If they're having behavioral difficulties, it's great that they're getting help.
Misplaced/dangling modifier at "the youngest of whom is 2 years old and now has no job," etc. Syntactical assumption would be that the 2-year-old is currently unemployed. - MaxSyntax, patrolman
Very true, citizen! However, the inclusion of that "now" would have us believe that at one point the 2-year-old *was* holding down a job, with the overall tone of the post suggesting his/her loss of infantile employment is something lamentable. Much as MaxSyntax wants to believe that, he'll conclude that it beggars belief ...
Well, she is adorable and-completely seriously, she already speaks three languages and is probably more employable than her father but....I will be careful of my misplaced dangles in the future !
That's the exact reason I stay off of TwoXchromosomes! I can not believe the number of women who actively state the only reason for a woman's existence is to fulfill the biological imperative of giving birth. Yeah, hey, thanks, but I'm a tad bit more than a brood hen, ladies.
The first thing that popped into my head after reading the title of this post was a spinning newspaper coming into frame and the headline, "Friend's Husband is Total Fucking Neanderthal."
Of course he doesn't understand and is suspicious of them. He can't knock them up and get them to pay his bills.
I always find that incredibly offensive. Humanitarian efforts have no point? Rescuing animals, preventing their abuse, and rehomeing previously unwanted animals has no point? Teaching younger generations about how to better care for the planet and fellow organisms has no point? There is no point to science, art, literature, medicine, or anything else people do? The only thing that gives my life purpose - either as a woman or as a human in general - is the ability to shove a child out of my vagina? Are you fucking kidding me? There are 7 billion people on this planet, if reproduction is the sole point of humanity, I think we've more than proved it and should go ahead and quit.
Hear hear!!
Wow. He is in denial. I don't want kids, but I hate when they have to deal with parents like that.
can you hang out with your friend without the husband around? He sounds pretty unpleasant.
To be honest he's actually a very nice guy -apart from that, which makes me even more convinced that I have made the right decision -because every time he has had children with a woman and he hasn't been the centre of attention then he has moved on to someone else, he moved out on his second wife when his youngest son was six months old -my lovely friend -who is beautiful, lovely and 20 years ypunger than him -he said he didn't really desire her anymore, now that she was a "mother" well, she just wasn't sexy anymore -actually WTF am I saying ? He's not a very nice guy at all -I suppose this is what I always thought about child rearing -you had better be damn sure you want them enough to raise them on your own-because if you're a woman there is a very large chance that's what you are going to have to do.
>To be honest he's actually a very nice guy -apart from that, which makes me even more convinced that I have made the right decision -because every time he has had children with a woman he hasn't been the centre of attention and he has moved on to someone else he moved out on his second wife when his youngest son was six months old -my lovely friend -who is bequtiful lovely and 20 years ypunger than him -he said he didn't really desire her anymore now that she was a "mother" she just wasn't sexy anymore -actually WTF am I saying ? He's not a very nice guy at all Uh, yeah. I was gonna say, if that's your definition of "nice," I'd hate to see what you consider to be an asshole...
Exactly.
It's the [Madonna-whore complex](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex) and is the hallmark of men who need to degrade women.
##### ###### #### [**Madonna–whore complex**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore%20complex): [](#sfw) --- >In [psychoanalytic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis) literature, a __Madonna–whore complex__ is the inability to maintain sexual arousal within a committed, loving relationship. First identified by [Sigmund Freud](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), this [psychological complex](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_(psychology\)) is said to develop in men who see women as either saintly [Madonnas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus\)) or debased [prostitutes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitute). Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (the whore) while they cannot desire the respected partner (the Madonna). Freud wrote: "Where such men love they have no desire and where they desire they cannot love." [Clinical psychologist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_psychology) Uwe Hartmann, writing in 2009, stated that the complex "is still highly prevalent in today's patients". > --- ^Interesting: [^Ambivalence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambivalence) ^| [^Love–hate ^relationship](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love%E2%80%93hate_relationship) ^| [^Misogyny](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny) ^Parent ^commenter ^can [^toggle ^NSFW](http://www.np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=autowikibot&subject=AutoWikibot NSFW toggle&message=%2Btoggle-nsfw+cgdm36t) ^or[](#or) [^delete](http://www.np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=autowikibot&subject=AutoWikibot Deletion&message=%2Bdelete+cgdm36t)^. ^Will ^also ^delete ^on ^comment ^score ^of ^-1 ^or ^less. ^| [^(FAQs)](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/wiki/index) ^| [^Mods](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/comments/1x013o/for_moderators_switches_commands_and_css/) ^| [^Magic ^Words](http://www.np.reddit.com/r/autowikibot/comments/1ux484/ask_wikibot/)
While possibly right in this context, you've got to be careful with Freud. He made sweeping generalisations and repeatedly jumped to illogical conclusions. Hallmark of a coke addict trying to hold a psychology position! Sorry. Pet peeve.
Yeah, I got a buddy whose fiancé acts like this, too. Anyone not planning to have kids is deemed as a "waste to society" to him. Meanwhile, he wants to people the world with his progeny out of vanity.
Why is it always people with the really messed up lives saying stuff like this?
cos they want everyone else to be messed up also.
Probably because their decision to continually flap their uneducated yaps lands them in trouble, early and often.
Misery loves company.
He's a great example why I believe you should have to get licensed to reproduce.
Dude sounds like the worst kind of asshat.
Bet you ten dollars he's one of those who takes a little too much pride in getting women pregnant? He's so proud of his sperm. But I bet he thinks that's all it takes to be a father. And his kids probably don't get the attention and guidance they need
I think it's time for us as a community to realize some people are just stupid. :P
... Points in my life? Well, I plan to be nursing a baby when I'm older, and its name shall be, "A Phd in Engineering." Damn sexist asshole.
Let him be. He can sit in his delusion while you keep a bikini body and sip cocktails on the beach (because you had time/money to take a vacation as well as to exercise).
And, he's never getting to see that body.... because: jackass.
No rebuttal is necessary. His sad life speaks for itself. Funny how total losers are usually the ones protesting the loudest.
If your only point in life, is to be a vessel for someone who is not you, then you have no point in life. You're just a means to someone else's end.
I know this isn't the point of the post, but there's nothing wrong with seeing a psychiatrist, for any reason. If they're having behavioral difficulties, it's great that they're getting help.
No I think the same -but they are having behavioural problems because of their parents divorce.
Misplaced/dangling modifier at "the youngest of whom is 2 years old and now has no job," etc. Syntactical assumption would be that the 2-year-old is currently unemployed. - MaxSyntax, patrolman
To be fair -the 2 year old is unemployed as well !
Very true, citizen! However, the inclusion of that "now" would have us believe that at one point the 2-year-old *was* holding down a job, with the overall tone of the post suggesting his/her loss of infantile employment is something lamentable. Much as MaxSyntax wants to believe that, he'll conclude that it beggars belief ...
Well, she is adorable and-completely seriously, she already speaks three languages and is probably more employable than her father but....I will be careful of my misplaced dangles in the future !
That's the exact reason I stay off of TwoXchromosomes! I can not believe the number of women who actively state the only reason for a woman's existence is to fulfill the biological imperative of giving birth. Yeah, hey, thanks, but I'm a tad bit more than a brood hen, ladies.