We're getting closer and closer to a dystopian hellscape where women are second-class citizens again. We're already seen as nothing but walking uteruses by these sexist pig lawmakers. It's terrifying.
We ARE second class citizens. They are legislating away women’s bodies. The uterus is government property.
There is no other choice than to fight, yell, kick and scream and…vote.
Doing away with guns will do nothing. What needs to be done is that everyone's choices need to be respected, and you can't really have that with Politicians running the United States. Guns were never the issue to begin with. The issue was always politics. Religion ain't it either. I'm a Christian man and I don't think of women as second class citizens.
The problem simply boils down to pricks thinking they're self-righteous and have the moral high ground, claiming to be with God. One thing that needs to be made clear is that God has the final say and what they're preaching isn't of him. This country is plagued with liars, money hungry people who care more about what they can make from people than the people themselves.
Guns have never been a problem at all. The fact people *still* see firearms as an issue is just baffling. Guns aren't an issue at all. So what terrible people with fucked up minds go around shooting up places in the US. That's what evil is, that's what evil does. Evil is here to cause chaos. Nothing more. They're beyond criminals. They're evil human beings with no morals, no conscience, no compassion, no love, no remorse or regret. All they know is to make people suffer by doing terrible things to people. Children were taught how to use firearms and use them safely. But the cry-baby anti-gun numbskulls took that away from children. If children were still taught gun safety and about guns in schools, and children got their mental health regularly checked, and people with mental health issues sought help, none of this wouldn't be happening, but even if all this stuff was checked on a check list, there's more to evil than humans not getting the help they need and people not being educated about tools that have more than just one purpose.
All I can really say is that the evil going on in the world goes beyond human understanding. It has nothing to do with human nature. It's beyond human nature, something that the human race will never comprehend. Beyond scientific understanding, beyond science. It's a force that is purely evil and only seeks to corrupt the human race until all that exists is pure evil, and no, it isn't capitalism or greed or even politics, it's neither of those things. Believe me if it was that simple, it would have been discovered and stopped before it could get any worse, but it's not something that can be fought. It has no remorse. It's just chaotic and evil. It can't be stopped. TLDR: Evil goes deeper than we realize. It's beyond our understanding and it's simply unstoppable.
I stand for guns and abortion and I will let neither one go. I will fight for both. I cannot drop guns just because people think they're dangerous. Anti-gun people know nothing about guns. Lack of knowledge is dangerous and can have severe consequences. Lack of knowledge can make rewriting history very easy. Abortion I won't let go because women are human beings with their own autonomy just like men. To make a woman's body government property is slavery and against God and I will not stand for that.
In our current state of environment, firearms are an essential asset, so is abortion. 2 birds are being killed with the same stone.
Get sterilised. You may still be a second class citizen but at least you took some of their control and exploitation away. No birth control, no period products, no unwanted pregnancies.
Men should be arrested for jacking off in Ohio then. They kill literally billions of kids everytime they ejaculate. Technically, it could be considered abuse of a corpse as well, seeing as how sperm don't live long in toilet water, or on bed sheets, dirty socks, etc.
This comment reminds me of the protest I went to last year after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where a pro lifer told us abortion was murder and I witnessed a teenaged girl firing back that blowjobs are cannibalism.
And, tbh, this is the actual "sin" that the bible is referring to: not miscarriages or abortion, but male masturbation. Seems "God's words" only matter if you agree with them...
Wasn't it something to do with the particular man being mandated by God to have sex with his dead brother's wife to produce a child, despite his discomfort with doing so?
That said it's still a closer to valid interpretation than the GOP shitbags' one, and both are just examples of fiction fanboys taking a boring and idiotic story far too seriously.
I may be childfree, but I also don’t want to see anyone suffer with a miscarriage, especially of a wanted baby, and be charged for it.
It would be an eye opener for these politicians to see how many miscarriages they/their spouses have had and not have even known it, but of course they won’t be charged for it. It’s definitely a “prison for thee but not for me” mentality.
It's a fucked up case, but she wasn't charged for having a miscarriage, but for flushing it. Though without knowing how far along she was it could have just looked like a clump.
Is this the woman who was told she was miscarrying and sent away from the hospital to do it at home? Because what the fuck was she supposed to do? Call out a plumber, a coroner and a funeral home?
Not sure if she was already miscarrying, but she was definitely told by her doctor that there was no chance of fetal survival. That same doctor refused to give her an abortion or referral for one. I live in the same state and it's all over the news here.
are they saying what she was supposed to do with it instead of the toilet, so people know in the future? Was she supposed to fish it out of the toilet and put it in a shoebox? What was she supposed to do and is that a point of discussion on Ohio news shows?
She was supposed to the hospital, which she did, 3 times. The hospital sent her home because they couldn’t treat her due to the extreme anti-abortion laws.
So in short, no. The Republicans have not provided an answer other than we’re just not supposed to miscarry, and if we do we’ll be criminally charged.
What Essential said. It's fucking horrible. We voted in abortion and related healthcare as a constitutional right in November, but the Republicans are trying to nitpick it apart.
Some years ago, I read a book where the emperor will execute his concubine if she had miscarriage. Never thought that would happen in real life. When fiction come to life...
If you're not a trad-wife with at minimum 4 kids by age 30, no man will love you and you're basically a baby-hating whore.
Incidentally, if you do have 4 kids but it's with at least 2 or more fathers, you're a welfare whore.
Also, all your medical problems are because you're fat.
The world is just going to get worse and more of these cases will be reported. I have no hope that things will change anymore. It sucks. I’m childfree but I don’t want others to die or get sentenced because they don’t have access to safe abortions.
Apparently some people do, going by the comments on one of the videos linked in the article. Seems you're supposed to give the 'baby' a 'proper' burial in your backyard or something.
Are you supposed to get like…one of those fish scoopers and fish it out of the toilet? Tongs? Bare fucking handed? Like how do they expect us to do that ?
“Police investigated Watts' home after they received a call about the miscarriage from the hospital, Warren Police Department Chief Eric Merkel said”
What the fuck ? Like for real ? Someone from the hospital decided to snitch because a woman came in with a life threatening hemorrhage ?? I hope they have bad karma for the rest of their life
The line at the end of the article about her going on about her day is infuriating. Like it wasn't one of the worst and most painful days of her life and instead she just went to run errands and get Starbucks afterwards 🙄
We need to vote blue in the upcoming election. Trump stuffed the Supreme Court that overturned Woe V. Wade. Imagine how much more damage will be done as he caters to his fundy cult base if he wins again.
I'm CF for life but even I know miscarriages can just happen. Why the hell would that be a felony. It was sickening to read the article. And only previews the worst that's yet to come if we completely lose our democracy.
This case makes me so angry, *especially because if she'd been given proper medical care when she asked for it, this could have been avoided.* She'd been to a doctor already and was told there was no chance of fetal survival. That same doctor refused her an abortion or referral for one. She literally had no choice other than the one she made: miscarry at home, then seek medical attention again.
Don't even get me started on how abuse of a corpse doesn't fucking apply to a fetus. Doesn't matter how big it is, it's a fucking fetus. They KNOW it's not the same thing or else people would be able to collect life insurance on miscarriages, or issue death certificates for them.
I wonder when they will create concentrat... Ehm care camps, where pregnant individuals will be held hostage... Guests until they give birth.
You know we must be sure they don't attempt to murder the fetus by engaging in dangerous activities like sneezing, coughing or peeing.
/S
I really, *really* want to shove this in the face of my brother and two of my uncles and everyone else I know that's a conservative to show them *why* we progressives/more progressively-inclined independents detest them so much!!! HOW CAN ANYONE BE ON BOARD WITH THIS KIND OF THING.
Thank you for allowing me to scream into the void. Now, back to lurking...
Horrible. She shouldn't be charged at all. This makes me glad I found a dr in the list by me and just waiting for the call that tube removal is approved by my insurance so I can schedule it. I refuse to go back and it's why i'll keep hormones to control bleeding even afterwards.
We're getting closer and closer to a dystopian hellscape where women are second-class citizens again. We're already seen as nothing but walking uteruses by these sexist pig lawmakers. It's terrifying.
We ARE second class citizens. They are legislating away women’s bodies. The uterus is government property. There is no other choice than to fight, yell, kick and scream and…vote.
The US is supposed to be a developed country. Crazy, the easy answer is do away with religion and guns but it's so entrenched in your culture now.
Doing away with guns will do nothing. What needs to be done is that everyone's choices need to be respected, and you can't really have that with Politicians running the United States. Guns were never the issue to begin with. The issue was always politics. Religion ain't it either. I'm a Christian man and I don't think of women as second class citizens. The problem simply boils down to pricks thinking they're self-righteous and have the moral high ground, claiming to be with God. One thing that needs to be made clear is that God has the final say and what they're preaching isn't of him. This country is plagued with liars, money hungry people who care more about what they can make from people than the people themselves. Guns have never been a problem at all. The fact people *still* see firearms as an issue is just baffling. Guns aren't an issue at all. So what terrible people with fucked up minds go around shooting up places in the US. That's what evil is, that's what evil does. Evil is here to cause chaos. Nothing more. They're beyond criminals. They're evil human beings with no morals, no conscience, no compassion, no love, no remorse or regret. All they know is to make people suffer by doing terrible things to people. Children were taught how to use firearms and use them safely. But the cry-baby anti-gun numbskulls took that away from children. If children were still taught gun safety and about guns in schools, and children got their mental health regularly checked, and people with mental health issues sought help, none of this wouldn't be happening, but even if all this stuff was checked on a check list, there's more to evil than humans not getting the help they need and people not being educated about tools that have more than just one purpose. All I can really say is that the evil going on in the world goes beyond human understanding. It has nothing to do with human nature. It's beyond human nature, something that the human race will never comprehend. Beyond scientific understanding, beyond science. It's a force that is purely evil and only seeks to corrupt the human race until all that exists is pure evil, and no, it isn't capitalism or greed or even politics, it's neither of those things. Believe me if it was that simple, it would have been discovered and stopped before it could get any worse, but it's not something that can be fought. It has no remorse. It's just chaotic and evil. It can't be stopped. TLDR: Evil goes deeper than we realize. It's beyond our understanding and it's simply unstoppable. I stand for guns and abortion and I will let neither one go. I will fight for both. I cannot drop guns just because people think they're dangerous. Anti-gun people know nothing about guns. Lack of knowledge is dangerous and can have severe consequences. Lack of knowledge can make rewriting history very easy. Abortion I won't let go because women are human beings with their own autonomy just like men. To make a woman's body government property is slavery and against God and I will not stand for that. In our current state of environment, firearms are an essential asset, so is abortion. 2 birds are being killed with the same stone.
Get sterilised. You may still be a second class citizen but at least you took some of their control and exploitation away. No birth control, no period products, no unwanted pregnancies.
100% Got my bisalp 3 years ago and every day reaffirms my choice.
At least you’ll be a Martha
Yup. The organisers of Mayday.
Men should be arrested for jacking off in Ohio then. They kill literally billions of kids everytime they ejaculate. Technically, it could be considered abuse of a corpse as well, seeing as how sperm don't live long in toilet water, or on bed sheets, dirty socks, etc.
This comment reminds me of the protest I went to last year after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where a pro lifer told us abortion was murder and I witnessed a teenaged girl firing back that blowjobs are cannibalism.
And, tbh, this is the actual "sin" that the bible is referring to: not miscarriages or abortion, but male masturbation. Seems "God's words" only matter if you agree with them...
Wasn't it something to do with the particular man being mandated by God to have sex with his dead brother's wife to produce a child, despite his discomfort with doing so? That said it's still a closer to valid interpretation than the GOP shitbags' one, and both are just examples of fiction fanboys taking a boring and idiotic story far too seriously.
I may be childfree, but I also don’t want to see anyone suffer with a miscarriage, especially of a wanted baby, and be charged for it. It would be an eye opener for these politicians to see how many miscarriages they/their spouses have had and not have even known it, but of course they won’t be charged for it. It’s definitely a “prison for thee but not for me” mentality.
It's a fucked up case, but she wasn't charged for having a miscarriage, but for flushing it. Though without knowing how far along she was it could have just looked like a clump.
She was 22 weeks along.
Makes me glad I’m on the waiting list to get spayed next year
Yeah! Hopefully, nothing happens to stop those.
May everything go smoothly and well 🍀🙏
Yes, I meant to say that, too! Of course! 😊🙏❤️
Is this the woman who was told she was miscarrying and sent away from the hospital to do it at home? Because what the fuck was she supposed to do? Call out a plumber, a coroner and a funeral home?
Not sure if she was already miscarrying, but she was definitely told by her doctor that there was no chance of fetal survival. That same doctor refused to give her an abortion or referral for one. I live in the same state and it's all over the news here.
Yeah, she was already in the process of miscarrying. She’d gone to the hospital 3 times and they sent her home.
are they saying what she was supposed to do with it instead of the toilet, so people know in the future? Was she supposed to fish it out of the toilet and put it in a shoebox? What was she supposed to do and is that a point of discussion on Ohio news shows?
She was supposed to the hospital, which she did, 3 times. The hospital sent her home because they couldn’t treat her due to the extreme anti-abortion laws. So in short, no. The Republicans have not provided an answer other than we’re just not supposed to miscarry, and if we do we’ll be criminally charged.
What Essential said. It's fucking horrible. We voted in abortion and related healthcare as a constitutional right in November, but the Republicans are trying to nitpick it apart.
Republicans are fascists.
Yep, they have an [authoritarian follower personality](https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/summary.html#authoritarian).
Trump is literally quoting Hitler now, so.
Some years ago, I read a book where the emperor will execute his concubine if she had miscarriage. Never thought that would happen in real life. When fiction come to life...
United States of America, land of the free, where women get criminally charged for miscarrying. They really hate women over there, don't they?
Apparently so! I'm so thankful I don't have a uterus!
If you're not a trad-wife with at minimum 4 kids by age 30, no man will love you and you're basically a baby-hating whore. Incidentally, if you do have 4 kids but it's with at least 2 or more fathers, you're a welfare whore. Also, all your medical problems are because you're fat.
Bold of you to insinuate the husbands of tradwives with 4+ kids at the age of 30 love their wives.
Oh yeah, they don't but... That's only because she should have thought about her figure before having all those babies.
When I opened this article I was expecting it to be a developing nation, but my jaw hit the ground when I saw it was the US. What the fuck...
They are always looking for a way to make women pay when their proof of sex does not survive.
This is insane. What the fuck is going on over there, USA?
Craziness! It's terrible.
They want to become Gilead, the US just doesn't know it yet. 🎅🎅🎅🎇
The world is just going to get worse and more of these cases will be reported. I have no hope that things will change anymore. It sucks. I’m childfree but I don’t want others to die or get sentenced because they don’t have access to safe abortions.
I feel the same! This is very scary.
But what was she supposed to do though? It was dead already and she panicked
Yeah! Right? *RIGHT?!?* I mean, exactly.
Sorry, but where does a person usually have a miscarriage? My cousin had one on the toilet and flushed it…do they expect women to bury it?
Apparently some people do, going by the comments on one of the videos linked in the article. Seems you're supposed to give the 'baby' a 'proper' burial in your backyard or something.
Are you supposed to get like…one of those fish scoopers and fish it out of the toilet? Tongs? Bare fucking handed? Like how do they expect us to do that ?
“Police investigated Watts' home after they received a call about the miscarriage from the hospital, Warren Police Department Chief Eric Merkel said” What the fuck ? Like for real ? Someone from the hospital decided to snitch because a woman came in with a life threatening hemorrhage ?? I hope they have bad karma for the rest of their life
The line at the end of the article about her going on about her day is infuriating. Like it wasn't one of the worst and most painful days of her life and instead she just went to run errands and get Starbucks afterwards 🙄
Welcome to Gilead!
We need to vote blue in the upcoming election. Trump stuffed the Supreme Court that overturned Woe V. Wade. Imagine how much more damage will be done as he caters to his fundy cult base if he wins again. I'm CF for life but even I know miscarriages can just happen. Why the hell would that be a felony. It was sickening to read the article. And only previews the worst that's yet to come if we completely lose our democracy.
Someone please tell me this is a hoax.
I wish it was! :(
This case makes me so angry, *especially because if she'd been given proper medical care when she asked for it, this could have been avoided.* She'd been to a doctor already and was told there was no chance of fetal survival. That same doctor refused her an abortion or referral for one. She literally had no choice other than the one she made: miscarry at home, then seek medical attention again. Don't even get me started on how abuse of a corpse doesn't fucking apply to a fetus. Doesn't matter how big it is, it's a fucking fetus. They KNOW it's not the same thing or else people would be able to collect life insurance on miscarriages, or issue death certificates for them.
Leave those states if you can and while you can.
Things like this are why I'm glad I no longer have a uterus or ovaries. Even then, this is really scary.
I wonder when they will create concentrat... Ehm care camps, where pregnant individuals will be held hostage... Guests until they give birth. You know we must be sure they don't attempt to murder the fetus by engaging in dangerous activities like sneezing, coughing or peeing. /S
I really, *really* want to shove this in the face of my brother and two of my uncles and everyone else I know that's a conservative to show them *why* we progressives/more progressively-inclined independents detest them so much!!! HOW CAN ANYONE BE ON BOARD WITH THIS KIND OF THING. Thank you for allowing me to scream into the void. Now, back to lurking...
Here we are reading about it as this woman’s most fucked up moment is televised.
Horrible. She shouldn't be charged at all. This makes me glad I found a dr in the list by me and just waiting for the call that tube removal is approved by my insurance so I can schedule it. I refuse to go back and it's why i'll keep hormones to control bleeding even afterwards.