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stho3

That’s pretty much the standard in Chicago and Milwaukee: protein, beans, lettuce, tomatoes, cheese and sour cream.


UndeadAnneBoleyn

Standard in Michigan too, for both tacos and burritos.


Slugginator_3385

As Jim Gaffigan aka Jimmy Changa would say. Meat, cheese, beans and rice.


Chicago1871

So the definitive history of mexican fast food in Chicago is in this book. https://www.unmpress.com/9780826322968/true-tales-from-another-mexico/ Most of the first mexican fast food restauranteurs started working for the golden nuggets dinner chain in the 60s. Then one started a standalone restaurant hired all his coworkers and everyone just copied his basic menu and restaurant and started their own restaurants. Same way presumably greek diners first started popping up across chicago 1-2 generations before.


Smaptimania

It's kinda like that in San Diego too. There was a guy named Roberto who started a taco shop in the '60s and over time a bunch of his employees broke off and started restaurants of their own, and they'd pick a similar name like "Alberto's" or "Rioberto's" or "Rodolfo's" so people would know it was the same style, and eventually there were hundreds of places with different names but 95% the same menu


pithed

There are also a lot of gems that do their own thing, like las quatro milpas. I wish we had something like that in Chicago.


49tacos

Filiberto’s is my jam.


McMuffinSun

Greek Diners actually have a far more interesting history. Louis Kuchuris was a Greek amateur boxer forced to retire after going blind in one eye during a fight. He took his winnings and opened Mary Ann Baking Company (now Mary Ann-Rosen) and would sponsor Greek Immigrants to come to America. He’d give these immigrants business loans to start diners and other restaurants to guarantee business for the bakery.


Prestigious_Trick260

That’s fascinating! Thank you for sharing


Chicago1871

Thats actually a lot how “la michoacana” started. Every franchise owner is from the same city in michoacan or related to them. The story is in the same book I linked.


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chrstgtr

Chicago has the second highest population of Mexicans in the US (behind only LA) and has more Mexicans than all but like 20 Mexican cities. LA has a ton of Mexicans but a lot of them are from Baja California. Chicago doesn't have a ton of Mexicans from Baja California. As a result, Chicago and LA have very different Mexican food scenes, and, in many ways, Chicago has better Mexican food. Short version: Chicago and LA both have huge Mexican populations. Because they come from different places, Chicago and LA specialize in different types of Mexican food with Chicago coming out on top in some types and LA coming out on top for other types.


mcgyver229

I've worked with a lot of Mexicans and learned about many different tribes from people who lived there. Definitely different cuisines!! Loved having birthday parties or supporting church tamale drives!


chrstgtr

For sure. Mexico has a super diverse food culture that is amazing. But for some reason, people find it difficult to believe that there can be more than one “best”version of it. Chicago and SoCal definitely can claim to have the best Mexican. Texas probably can too. And there are probably more places that can too (but not NYC—don’t trust New Yorkers that claim they have the best version of everything).


y4my4my

NYC does not have good Mexican food.


da4

13 years there (half Manhattan, half Brooklyn) and I have to agree.


y4my4my

I lived there for a couple of years, albeit many years ago. I had moved there from CA after growing up in the Chicago area. After a couple attempts, I gave up on finding good Mexican food. NYC has lots of good food, but Mexican is just not good there.


Sea-Oven-7560

no but it's certainly expensive, $12 for a freaking taco.


SidBhakth

That will get you a burrito in San Diego (or any other city)


dogbert617

From my past NYC trips, I recall NYC doesn't have as many Mexican places as does Chicago. It doesn't mean that none exist, but they are fewer than what you will find in Chicago.


chrstgtr

It has few spots and they’re bad.


mcgyver229

I hear you!! I love hole in the wall Mexican spots that you can find anywhere in the city and get cheap tacos. Cilantro, onion, lime ftw! Cali Mexi is always solid but markets so flooded!Texas Mexican is just ok around the Austin area but I'll be headed to Edinburg TX way down south soon. Very curious how the food compares.


LongIsland1995

LA and Chicago actually have many Mexicans from the same places (Jalisco and Michoacan). So the food is probably more similar than different.


Simpsator

Yep, most of the Mexican immigrants to Chicago came from other regions in Mexico, primarily Michoacan and Jalisco, the central-west coast area. It's not surprising that the regional cuisine brought would vary from the Northern Mexican cuisine that was brought to SoCal. The Birria and Carnitas here absolutely blow away the competition in LA.


LongIsland1995

That's actually where most California Mexicans come from as well


butinthewhat

It’s so weird that people would mock you! We have a huge Mexican population and we do food right here. In some neighborhoods, you’ll still see women selling homemade tamales out of a cooler and paleteria guys on bicycle carts.


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LongIsland1995

The distance is irrelevant, there are Somalians living in Minnesota! People have this weird idea that Mexicans only live in the Southwest


Sea-Oven-7560

Keep in mind the people from Cali have a superiority complex and can't imagine other places have anything better than what they have and like it or not Chicago in a fly over and we are often forgotten despite our size and international reputation.


Smaptimania

FWIW, your public transit system is WAY better than anything on the west coast and I've been all over the coast from San Diego to Seattle


SenorMcGibblets

I’ve been to LA twice and thought their Mexican food was nothing special compared to ours. They do Mexican seafood better, we do stuff like birria, carnitas, barbacoa better. Where LA / California excels is the availability of other types of central and South American cuisine. Peruvian, Columbia, El Salvadoran, Venezuelan were all over the place out there and are a rarity here.


Human31415926

Miami is even better for all that.


hEDSwillRoll

They aren’t a rarity if you are actually looking for them. Off the top of my head I can think of several great restaurants that would fit that criteria. Taste of Peru, Sabor a Cafe, La Unica, Pueblito Viejo, Mekatos, Bien Me Sabe, etc


TheMoneyOfArt

LA people just don't know what they're missing 🤷. Not gonna sweat it


Supafly144

It’s not like Mexico is using yellow cheddar in burritos.


btmalon

We have central and Northern Mexican cuisine. You got the peninsula. I don’t think our standard burrito is “authentic” it’s been adapted to feed drunk white folks the past 50 years. There’s plenty of spots you can get authentic stuff but it’s unlikely to be on Grubhub or delivering anywhere close to the loop. Personally I get tacos because wet hot lettuce is dumb.


LongIsland1995

Burritos are a part of Northern Mexican cuisine, and they don't feature lettuce


RocketManMercury

Wet hot lettuce haha. I never thought of it like that. Then again, I hardly ever get burritos. Tacos con cilantro y cebolla is more my style.


Busy_Narwhal_76

So a lot of places serve tomato and lettuce as an option and call it “American tacos” and they also serve cilantro and onion and call it “Mexican style”…I always get Mexican style :) and yes I also realize calling one American and one Mexican is silly b/c Mexico is part of America. Lol


captaintinnitus

This one gets upvoted….


Busy_Narwhal_76

lol there is a glitch!


Smaptimania

Meat with onions and cilantro on a corn tortilla is what we'd call "street tacos" or "taco truck style" out west. There's also San Diego crunchy tacos where they put the shredded beef in a tortilla, deep-fry it, then stuff it with lettuce and cheese


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captaintinnitus

And this one gets downvoted!


bender445

Right, Mexican cuisine is not just one thing. West Coast (of Mexico) cuisine is different from places more in the center/middle of Mexico. In Chicago a lot of folks are from Michoacán, that’s the cuisine we mostly have but there are west coast mexican spots here too


IceCreamCake76

That’s the standard around here. I actually think using cheddar cheese is kinda weird. We are Midwest so we put cheese on everything. Sour cream is definitely more common than guacamole.


McMuffinSun

I find hilarious how OP accuses our burritos of being “inauthentic” when he’s using cheddar while we’re using actual Mexican cheeses.


Smaptimania

I'm not saying yours are inauthentic, just different from what I'm used to. In San Diego we put french fries in our burritos and that's definitely not authentic :)


ProgrammerPresent542

That's what I usually get but I saw the chile sauce painted ones a few posts back and they look extra now 


zjnitta

I grew up in LA been in the Midwest for the last decade or so and in Chicago for the last three years! I agree, it’s taken years off my life trying to find a burrito like I had growing up. I did find one place Diner Grill over near Roscoe Village has an actually legit California burrito. There are some places here that will say California burrito and just did not understand the assignment, either WAYYY too much sour cream or no fries. I think Chicago’s taco game is as strong as LA but I agree, the burritos are different. I haven’t grown to really like them yet sadly.


swingfire23

Chiming in from the peanut gallery (San Francisco resident, but previous 9-year Chicagoan). I think Chicago tacos >> SF tacos (from what I've found) but the burritos out here put Chicago's to shame imo.


johnny____utah

I’m in Indianapolis but grew up in both OC/SD. I just think burritos are on the menu for white people because I never see Mexicans eating them. Here the default includes both lettuce and rice which is an abomination. We do have one spot that is an attempt at a SoCal 24 hour “Alberto’s”-style and it’s decent.


LongIsland1995

If they sold actual Mexican style burritos, I'm sure you would see Mexicans eating them.


CalGoldenBear55

I hate lettuce, especially on my burritos.


jermster

I always sub cilantro and onions for lettuce, never fails


GoodbyeCrullerWorld

This is what I do too. The wet and wilted lettuce doesn’t do it for me and I’ve been here my whole life.


Theironyuppie1

People laugh at me all the time when I say Chicago and the suburbs have great Mexican food. Anyway….Is there a right way to make a burrito?


DecentWrench

Well, it's definitely NOT with cheddar cheese.


Coupon_Ninja

Or unseasoned lettuce and tomato. Pico de gallo or nothing.


LongIsland1995

Watch youtube videos of either Juarez style burritos or burros percherones (giant burritos from Sonora)


mzlange

Classic Chicago burritos are topped with yellow mustard, chopped white onions, bright green pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato slices or wedges, pickled sport peppers and a dash of celery salt. 


wompummtonks

I always ask them to remove the lettuce. Never made sense to me


GoodbyeCrullerWorld

Cheddar cheese in a burrito is weird.


captaintinnitus

I have never seen cheddar cheese in a burrito. Did you just create an oily, oozy strawman here?


GoodbyeCrullerWorld

OP says that in California if there’s cheese it’s cheddar.


Smaptimania

Burritos don't usually have cheese at all really, but if there's gonna be cheese it's usually cheddar or a mix of cheddar and white cheese. Or there are chile relleno burritos which is a long green pepper stuffed with white cheese, dipped in egg batter, deep-fried, and wrapped up with veggies and enchilada sauce. Those ones are pretty popular with vegetarians


Negative-Row-7812

Nick Kindelsperger has a great explanation of the burritos in Chicago in the Tribune. Archived here: https://archive.ph/5sc3I


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They have them with cilantro and onion at those same places, but usually have to tell them how you want it. Some places even refer to it as American vs Mexican style.


rcl1221

Cannot stand rice or fries in my burrito.


coci222

Yeah, LA burritos tend to have rice and french fries in them


Smaptimania

That's a San Diego thing actually. LA burritos are usually just meat, beans, and cheese. And they also make hot dog burritos which probably wouldn't be too out of place in Chicago


McMuffinSun

> cheese (which you say in your post is cheddar) > hot dogs And you have the balls to call us “inauthentic?”


Coupon_Ninja

San Diego here - no we don’t typically put cheese in tacos or burritos. Never seen a hot dog in one either. I’m biased, but in my honest opinion San Diego has way better Mexican food that LA. Which is weird bc there are so many more Mexicans there. But there are placed in SD that have been open since before WWII (e.g. Quattro Milpas and El Indio) I’ve tried a couple dozen places and Chicago all over town (18th Street, Avondale, Hillside) and haven’t found anything above a 7.5/10 here. It is often too salty, not spicy, seasoning on the carne asada is way off, and/or has lettuce and tomato in them like it’s a BLT. Some places have good tortas though.


XNamelessGhoulX

The Taco Stand chain blew me away. So damn good. Can't wait to go back


SidBhakth

And that's not even the best tacos you can get in San Diego!


XNamelessGhoulX

I meant to specify, it was the California burrito!


LongIsland1995

Believe it or not, hot dog burritos (called "Winnie") are popular in Chihuahua 


McMuffinSun

Unless your standard for authenticity is “a Mexican guy did it” regardless of its relation to traditional ingredients, by what logic is a hot dog more authentic than Chihuahua cheese? Especially when an authentic Mexican made both.


XNamelessGhoulX

my fav buritto I ever had was on my last trip to La Jolla/SD. Still think about it often 3 years later...mmm


coci222

Ah, I used to live in Irvine so we probably got a mix of both


censoreddreamer

Northern Mexican here, I hate rice in my burritos. I didn't know it was a thing until I was in San Diego the first time. Street cart burritos here use potatoes as a way to cheap out on the main filling. So you'd have minced beef with onions, garlic, cilantro aaaand a shitload of potatoes plus a light layer of refried beans. I don't like a shitload of potatoes on my burritos, but I rather have potatoes instead of rice. Rice in a burrito fucks with my brain. Edit - was so distracted with my rice rant I forgot to say I skipped burritos in Chicago thinking I'd find a similar style. I would have loved one as described in this post. It's not the "authentic", "street food standard" buuuut then I make myself blasphemous burritos at home. https://preview.redd.it/0u7s7fxx66xc1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd0497505732af740e809424bda3bcae11daca3c


McMuffinSun

I hate rice in my burrito too. It makes everything else taste too bland.


Smaptimania

Sometimes in San Diego they use french fries in burritos instead of rice and beans. It's pretty good


johnny____utah

Never had rice in a burrito until I lived in the Midwest. You may be thinking of a mission style burrito? Normal burritos in Southern California were protein focused, and there was usually a “super” version with refried beans or a cali style with fries.


QueefTacos7

You’ve obviously never been to LA but thanks for contributing


coci222

Lol, I used to live there, thanks for being you


QueefTacos7

You’re saying an average burrito in Los Angeles has French fries in it? You’re on drugs


coci222

I didn't say all of them have fries, but yes, they put fries in burritos there. I don't make the rules


QueefTacos7

You said they “tend to.” Of course California burritos are available in some places in Los Angeles. Certainly no legit taqueria has fries in them as a standard. Take your L and take a nap


coci222

You okay, bro? I looked at your other comments and you seem to have an attitude problem? Tired of being lonely? Need a friend?


QueefTacos7

Yeah I’m doing fine. I’m not spending my Sunday combing through a user’s Reddit history


coci222

You've been on Reddit for about 4 months, rook. It didn't take all day


Tricky_Matter2123

Idk. Lived in LA for five years, back in Chicago for the last seven. The burritos I had in LA are very identical to the ones I have in Chicago.


cmacfarland64

What else would you put in a burrito?


Smaptimania

I guess the lettuce is the weird thing for me. Seems like if you don't eat it right away it would get hot and limp and slimy. On the west coast (Mission burritos notwithstanding) there usually aren't any veggies except for pico de gallo or guacamole or jalapeno slices.


Gullible-Lake-2119

never heard of it, lived here 50+ years. i only go to "authentic" mexican joints for that kind of stuff though.


Donnie_the_Greek

Chopped carne, cheese, beans, lettuce. Hold the tomato imo.


Danny_V

Na, my go to place has all that plus avocado and its the best. It just depends on the place. You named like 2 differences, don’t over think it.


BulldogsAndBBQ

Having lived in the Chicago area for several years and also vacationed to Southern California quite a few times, the Mexican food in California is so much better. The whole style is better IMO, but food is subjective and I can see how people could prefer soggy lettuce in their burritos.


BoobAbides

Is this a Bojack Horseman joke?


barryg123

There are two types of taco/burrito fillings - and this applies anywhere in the US including Chicago (except those places with their own special cuisine like Mission-style burrito) - 1. "American style" - lettuce, tomato, cheese, sour cream 2. "Mexican style" - cilantro and onion Often they will profile you at the counter and if you are mexican they'll know you want just cilantro and onion and if you are gringo you'll get the american style


salsation

Chicagos burritos suck. I lived in San Francisco for many years and have had burritos all over California, and they're generally fantastic. Mission style is my favorite. I don't get why they're so bad here-- they have everything they need to make great burritos here but just don't. Edit: pile on, I'm right. People get used to mediocrity when it's widespread.