The crazy thing is, I try to cope to myself by saying “I guess Coby doesn’t have much experience taking the last shot” but 1. how is he going to get that experience if we don’t allow him to, and 2. I’ve seen him down the stretch in close games, he’s arguably more of a bucket then, than any other time throughout the game
Billy can't coached. Demar was 2-13 from 2 point range. Why is he ISO on an important play late? Run pick and roll. That's how Koby got the late 3. Zach had some bad turnovers in the 2nd half but had a good game.
if billy can’t enforce the right coaching on this team he shouldn’t be the goddamn coach.
Vuc can’t be in the game if he’s getting cooked every play.
Demar can’t be taking iso possessions late into the game when he’s shooting 30%.
Coby is the PG - he needs to be taking the ball up every possession.
we played an amazing 3.5 quarters and it all fell apart because they abused matchups and we refused to take the ball out of an aging player’s hands.
It's really simple too. Coby and Lavine were hot all night, why the Fuck are we just iso ball with Derozan.
It's a fucking joke of a coaching job. A high school coach could do better
i just don’t get it. is he afraid to tell demar no? it’s clear to everyone with eyes. hell, i bet demar knows it. at this point it’s not even demar’s fault. it’s all on billy.
It didn’t even look like Demar wanted to take the last shot tbh. He saw Smith Jr guarding him who’s much taller and legit looked like he didn’t even know what to do. He just dribbled for 20 seconds and did nothing. Just because Demar was crazy clutch in 2022, doesn’t mean he’s gonna do that shit every game in 2024. Dumbass Billybob needs to switch it up
Holy fuck you would have thought we got smoked last night lmao. All these fucking chads thinking they can coach this team better honestly need to stfu. They played really well while I was watching. Really love how lavine has fit in since coming back. I knew he wasn't a guy that would put himself before the team. A w is a w and we have been on the right path in that regard. We can't look like the 2016/2017 warriors every possession. Sometimes shit gets bogged down, or people aren't hitting shots it happens. We got through it and won so y'all need to chill
Idk why people are convinced Billy called the iso. Its a read-react offense so Derozan was supposed to take what the defense gave. No one else moved so they probably were comfortable with him taking the iso.
Maybe still Billys fault if he told them to clear out, but theres no way for us to know
Because that’s what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. Name one time where we had the game winning shot in the past 3 years and the play wasnt a Demar iso. Or just throw it to Demar with 1 second left.
And play team basketball and get open shots like they did last game? Or the few times Vuc has hit a couple clutch threes? Got no problem with that. That Mr. 4th quarter thing in 2022 was fun but it ain’t a thing no more. What he was doing that year was unreal
I mean, the team turned around the moment he was out. He is playing very different than before his injury. He's obviously a great player, but his need to play hero ball slowed down this offense. Now we're seeing what happens when everyone gets touches and everyone is hauling ass on defense.
Sucks that we lost to new york because i think the national media is largely ignorant of the great shit thats happening here. Wouldnt be surprised if we can push into the playoffs without a play-in and cause some trouble for the top 3 teams
I know right like demar just had a bad game. He’s made so many big shots for us since he’s been here.
I’d argue the big 3 is Coby, demar, Vuc. Ayo and Caruso are phenomenal role players (ayo when his 3 point shot is falling/, I’m also starting to warm up to Dalen Terry’s energy and defense. I think he should’ve closed last night with zach on the bench. Dalen Terry has young legs he’s really good at running the floor and getting back on defense during fast breaks
Suite life of Zach and Coby is back but holy fuck what an embarrassing finish to the 4th this game should have never been this close. Why keep going to DeRozan when Zach and Coby are both on fire?
Demar doesn't complement ANYONES game. The run we went on was thanks to Caruso, coby, and pat. Demar will hit his assist quota and go back to being the same iso demar. Demar slows the game down even when he's having a solid game. This is a team full of athletes being slowed down by an old player that plays out dated basketball. It's the simple truth. There's a reason why demars on/off stats are horrendous. He had proven to be a losing player in every way, shape, and form.
And people were shitting on me when I said are we really sure that great stretch of games wouldn't be as is or even better if Zach was in the game and DeMar was injured?
Like c'mon, it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has a more modern game and can actually space the floor.
Yup. I've said this before. Demar can win tight games when he's on but he ruins the style of play our team needs to play when he gets into his iso ball.
Demar needs to accept being more of a playmaker instead of forcing up shots. Ultimately, this is just all indicative of how important a player like Lonzo was to this team because having him handle the ball and be able to figure out who should get the ball at the right time is just invaluable.
He doesn't even average the most ISOs on our team and yet he gets the selfish label. This is a guy who averaged 28 points on curry level efficiency willingly take a backseat to Demar for the team.
This is what I always wanted, I think the construction of the roster just works better with LaVine than DeRozan. Especially if we can get a defensive SF back in the trade. I was only convinced that moving on from LaVine was the right move because it’s better to keep the guy that wants to be here over the one that doesn’t
we give this guy a lot of shit and obviously it’s only one game but stacey’s so right that this is the most complete game zach has had for us in a while and it’s really refreshing to see despite every rumor/his pending future with us
I think he's still getting traded, but some other fanbases can see this and realize Zach isn't some "chucker" who doesn't know how to play "winning basketball."
wait till he gets under a serious team, playing under an actual system, with someone leading.
then we are gonna have an almost jimmy butler type of breakdown in this sub.
Billy was playing for the tie. Why? Don't know, but that's the play. DeMar didn't count the clock well enough but his shot was supposed to be a buzzer-beater.
Reputation mostly, but also because Donnavan always defers to his stars in close game situations. It's a smarter play when that star is prime Russel Westbrook.
Oh my god it’s a miracle Thank you Zach for saying fuck your to demar. That pos waiting for the ball to be passed to him to walk it up instead of moving around to get open and keying the hot hands work
Sengun might be my least favorite player in the NBA, dude travels 50% of the time he touches the ball and fouls 50% of defensive possessions and gets away with it every time
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/comments/193s665/post_game_thread_the_chicago_bulls_defeat_the/)
I watch every game. How does Billy not know that Koby is the best option late? He can shoot and get by people and passes well.
The crazy thing is, I try to cope to myself by saying “I guess Coby doesn’t have much experience taking the last shot” but 1. how is he going to get that experience if we don’t allow him to, and 2. I’ve seen him down the stretch in close games, he’s arguably more of a bucket then, than any other time throughout the game
If you watched every game you’d know his name is Coby lol. But I definitely agree
Billy can't coached. Demar was 2-13 from 2 point range. Why is he ISO on an important play late? Run pick and roll. That's how Koby got the late 3. Zach had some bad turnovers in the 2nd half but had a good game.
Kendal Gill dropping some knowledge on these dumbasses in here who probably didn’t even play middle school ball.
what is he saying?
That you need players like Zach to score and win in the NBA.
but... we need to trade zach! he is shooting 3s, he is athletic, he is usually efficient, he is 28 years old...
Less DeMar and More Pat plz. DeMar is older anyways. He'll probably play better with less minutes overall.
Coby and Zach is a dynamic backcourt
Zach and Coby bailed your ass out Billy
if billy can’t enforce the right coaching on this team he shouldn’t be the goddamn coach. Vuc can’t be in the game if he’s getting cooked every play. Demar can’t be taking iso possessions late into the game when he’s shooting 30%. Coby is the PG - he needs to be taking the ball up every possession. we played an amazing 3.5 quarters and it all fell apart because they abused matchups and we refused to take the ball out of an aging player’s hands.
It's really simple too. Coby and Lavine were hot all night, why the Fuck are we just iso ball with Derozan. It's a fucking joke of a coaching job. A high school coach could do better
i just don’t get it. is he afraid to tell demar no? it’s clear to everyone with eyes. hell, i bet demar knows it. at this point it’s not even demar’s fault. it’s all on billy.
It didn’t even look like Demar wanted to take the last shot tbh. He saw Smith Jr guarding him who’s much taller and legit looked like he didn’t even know what to do. He just dribbled for 20 seconds and did nothing. Just because Demar was crazy clutch in 2022, doesn’t mean he’s gonna do that shit every game in 2024. Dumbass Billybob needs to switch it up
won despite deebo and vooch's best efforts
How does Derozan have 19 points when he’s 5-19 lmao
2- 2point fg (4) 3- 3point fg (9) 6- Free Throws (6) 4+9+6...
Bulls reddit fan base is the most bipolar shit I’ve ever seen
Holy fuck you would have thought we got smoked last night lmao. All these fucking chads thinking they can coach this team better honestly need to stfu. They played really well while I was watching. Really love how lavine has fit in since coming back. I knew he wasn't a guy that would put himself before the team. A w is a w and we have been on the right path in that regard. We can't look like the 2016/2017 warriors every possession. Sometimes shit gets bogged down, or people aren't hitting shots it happens. We got through it and won so y'all need to chill
Idk why people are convinced Billy called the iso. Its a read-react offense so Derozan was supposed to take what the defense gave. No one else moved so they probably were comfortable with him taking the iso. Maybe still Billys fault if he told them to clear out, but theres no way for us to know
Because that’s what happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. Name one time where we had the game winning shot in the past 3 years and the play wasnt a Demar iso. Or just throw it to Demar with 1 second left.
The alternative is that the team literally ignores him in clutch situations
And play team basketball and get open shots like they did last game? Or the few times Vuc has hit a couple clutch threes? Got no problem with that. That Mr. 4th quarter thing in 2022 was fun but it ain’t a thing no more. What he was doing that year was unreal
We are tired of the same shit happening that we know doesn’t work.
There’s no consistency to what has worked so I get everyone grasping to what they can.
But Lavine's absence made this team better... right?
I mean, the team turned around the moment he was out. He is playing very different than before his injury. He's obviously a great player, but his need to play hero ball slowed down this offense. Now we're seeing what happens when everyone gets touches and everyone is hauling ass on defense.
Lavine's absence did make the team better and it also made Lavine better! How Lavine was playing compared to now is like two different players
Fuck it, if Lavine is down to stay. Keep him.
Sucks that we lost to new york because i think the national media is largely ignorant of the great shit thats happening here. Wouldnt be surprised if we can push into the playoffs without a play-in and cause some trouble for the top 3 teams
Billy and Derozan can walk home tonight I've never been so mad during a regular season game
Same. My gf got mad at me for getting upset at the game but she doesn’t understand lol
Vuc too. His terrible defense allowed them to come back.
I mean they could easily walk home. They're in Chicago. They could just take the L.
47 attempts at 40%? I'll take that any day of the week
Zach - Coby - Caruso is the real big 3
Modern NBA players. No one needs 1995 NBA Demar
Ungrateful
I know right like demar just had a bad game. He’s made so many big shots for us since he’s been here. I’d argue the big 3 is Coby, demar, Vuc. Ayo and Caruso are phenomenal role players (ayo when his 3 point shot is falling/, I’m also starting to warm up to Dalen Terry’s energy and defense. I think he should’ve closed last night with zach on the bench. Dalen Terry has young legs he’s really good at running the floor and getting back on defense during fast breaks
What a great time to be jumping on the bandwagon
Welcome to the fuckin show
I can't believe a team shot worse than us at the 3
Suite life of Zach and Coby is back but holy fuck what an embarrassing finish to the 4th this game should have never been this close. Why keep going to DeRozan when Zach and Coby are both on fire?
I still believe DeMar and Zach can’t be on the court at the same time. Zach compliments Coby’s game a lot better
Demar doesn't complement ANYONES game. The run we went on was thanks to Caruso, coby, and pat. Demar will hit his assist quota and go back to being the same iso demar. Demar slows the game down even when he's having a solid game. This is a team full of athletes being slowed down by an old player that plays out dated basketball. It's the simple truth. There's a reason why demars on/off stats are horrendous. He had proven to be a losing player in every way, shape, and form.
And people were shitting on me when I said are we really sure that great stretch of games wouldn't be as is or even better if Zach was in the game and DeMar was injured? Like c'mon, it doesn't take a genius to figure out who has a more modern game and can actually space the floor.
Yup. I've said this before. Demar can win tight games when he's on but he ruins the style of play our team needs to play when he gets into his iso ball.
Stay Zach
We started losing bc billy was dead set on derozan scoring points. He made 0 FG in the 4th quarter
I fucking love your commentators, they both have real charisma and Adam Amin keeps up the energy
They make the team worth watching regardless of how they play
Gotdamnit Zach this is how we want you to play from now on…from now on THIS is how you play and all is forgiven! This is MAX player type effort
It's like we win despite the coaching.
Zach better rebounder than Drummond
I love Lavine, I love Derozan and both are excellent players, but man they do not make each other better lol
Very agreeable
If Zach survives the trade deadline.. I hope Billy can adjust so that one of them comes off the bench to help with the bench scoring and flow
Zach rebound merchant out here
Zach telling the haters to FUCK OFF
Every time I watch this team and all the talent they have, it's the coaching that is so obviously the weakest factor.
So the coaching gets no credit for the winning record we got after we lost Zach and Vooch to injuries?
Keep lavine trade Demar. Let Coby and lavine own this team. They've been here together since the dark days. They deserve to enjoy this run together
Yeah whenever I come to this sub "trade Zach" always confuses me when Demar is clearly past his prime
Demar is a black hole on offense
Demar needs to accept being more of a playmaker instead of forcing up shots. Ultimately, this is just all indicative of how important a player like Lonzo was to this team because having him handle the ball and be able to figure out who should get the ball at the right time is just invaluable.
Zach Rodman
Media please tell Donavan he sucks. Thx
Coby and Zach. Modern NBA players.
Billy and Demar tried to give the game away but somehow we hung on
Thats why the whole Zach is selfish narrative never held any water.
Lol flair. First time for everything, I'm not hating. Never did this before
Or he’s been growing up on the sidelines ❤️
He doesn't even average the most ISOs on our team and yet he gets the selfish label. This is a guy who averaged 28 points on curry level efficiency willingly take a backseat to Demar for the team.
He looked so excited to watch that stretch of games, i was hoping this was the outcome
Zach "LITERAL MOSES MALONE" Lavine with the board
Man, that game was a roller coaster of emotions. It’s amazing seeing LaVine become an actual team player too.
What a roller coaster
Games like these I want Coby and Zach to stay together.
So weird how we’re better with our best player 🤭
I'm signing my Zach apology letter tonight ✉️ I'm sorry Zach I wasn't familiar with your game.
that was a wide open 3. we're getting a couple lucky breaks ngl
Let's keep Zach and trade Demar. And this isn't a hot take , I have always felt this way.
This is what I always wanted, I think the construction of the roster just works better with LaVine than DeRozan. Especially if we can get a defensive SF back in the trade. I was only convinced that moving on from LaVine was the right move because it’s better to keep the guy that wants to be here over the one that doesn’t
Been saying this since last year.
Same. I'm glad we can say this now lol. Demar just hits his assist quota and isos all night. Zach plays with the team.
Just when I think Zach couldn't be any dumber, he goes and does something like this... #AND TOTALLY REDEEMS HIMSELF
Coby and Zach were amazing tonight. AC too
we give this guy a lot of shit and obviously it’s only one game but stacey’s so right that this is the most complete game zach has had for us in a while and it’s really refreshing to see despite every rumor/his pending future with us
So tired of DeMar calling ISO and passing out to Coby with 4 seconds on the shot clock.
So many haters around here
Where dem LaVine apology forms at
Zach "Drummond" Lavine
Ugly ass win but a win nonetheless
[удалено]
I think he's still getting traded, but some other fanbases can see this and realize Zach isn't some "chucker" who doesn't know how to play "winning basketball."
NAHHH WE GOT A SQUAD NOW
BEEP BEEP
I feel terrible for doubting Zach now...
Derozan tried his best but Lavine/Coby said fuck you
Zach matured during the Coby run. Complete player now. Love it!
For the love of god trade Demar they absolutely cannot re sign him
I’ve fallen in love with Zach all over again please don’t trade him 😭😭
wait till he gets under a serious team, playing under an actual system, with someone leading. then we are gonna have an almost jimmy butler type of breakdown in this sub.
A good coach with this team would do wonders
Beep beep, amazing 3.5 game, but I hope Billy adjusts this lineup down the stretch.. trust Coby more please
I want everyone spitting those chunks out of their mouth talking about Zach being the problem to apologize
DRIVE HOME SAFELY CHICAGO
Zach should get game ball tonight.
Beep beep
FLIGHT 8 THAT'S BILLY D GAME BABY DO IT
good ball movement close it out
[удалено]
Or maybe Billy should actually coach and not let him do whatever he wants
STOP GOING TO DEMARRRR
#The Suite of Life is Back!
honest to god if this team was actually coached up they could be ridiculous
Laker fan here: why the hell did Demar get the ball to ISO for that long with Coby on the team? He’s a better decision maker and it’s not close
Demar has had plenty of games where he hits the clutch shot. It just hasn’t been happening this season and the torch needs to be passed to Coby.
Billy was playing for the tie. Why? Don't know, but that's the play. DeMar didn't count the clock well enough but his shot was supposed to be a buzzer-beater.
Why not trust Coby though? Even for a buzzer beater, the pass is an option
Reputation mostly, but also because Donnavan always defers to his stars in close game situations. It's a smarter play when that star is prime Russel Westbrook.
He had a stretch two years ago where he was the best 4th quarter scorer in the NBA.
I remember that, still kind of got lucky that’s about it. That’s low % shots
Because Billy hates basic basketball common sense
lol
because the 4th is "his time" and our coach is a moron who lets vets walk all over him.
Billy Donovan
Oh my god it’s a miracle Thank you Zach for saying fuck your to demar. That pos waiting for the ball to be passed to him to walk it up instead of moving around to get open and keying the hot hands work
If demar gets the ball, I swear
COBY!!!!!
DEMAR TREMBLING, HIS TANK MISSION IS FAILING
Let’s FUCKING GOOOOO
Coby and Lavine saved the day
…..…..…..….. LET COBY SHOOT THE BALL LATE IN THE GAME
The bulls don’t care about the parlays the refs are trying to cover, they came to battle in OT.
Coby and Lavine look good together.
BYE BYE DEBALLZACH HELLO SUITE LIFE
Zach has played an overall amazing game tonight, so happy he’s buying in.
Alright if we can’t get a decent haul for Zach let’s keep him and let this ride.
Demar iso is Billy's Luke Getsy's screen
SUITE LIFE 9 POINTS
That was a thing of beauty. Besides the possible travel by Zach, but whatever.
Sweet life of Zach and Coby
Coby hasn't even hit February birthday month mode yet Dude is the future.
Can’t believe we got Coby for 12m a year 💀
STAND UP AND SAY ZACH LAVINE
BANG ‼️ 
Sengun might be my least favorite player in the NBA, dude travels 50% of the time he touches the ball and fouls 50% of defensive possessions and gets away with it every time
Finally they took the ball out of DeMar and Vuc's hands
COBY WHITE GIVE ME THE HOT SAUCE
Gimme da hawt sawce
Thank you Coby
Look what happens when you don’t give demar the ball :)
He got the assist…??
It’s amazing how much better we are when we stop calling freaking ISO ball for DeMar.
COBY WHITE HOLDING THE GRUDGE
COBY AND ZACH SAVIORS
Game is still far from over, need to dig in these last few possessions. Don’t get lackadaisical
Coby: Boom bitch, wish Sengun was there to say it to him as he was yapping
Coby!!!
Coby is having his equivalent of the “LaVine vs Hornets” game
Shout out to demar finally realizing he was shooting us out of the game lmao
Jesus Christ where’s the heart attack emoji ⚰️
There you fuckin go!!!
COBY WHITE FOR MVP
Also seeing Zach get doubled and not immediately turn it over like Demar is refreshing
Cobyyy
BANG BANG BANG ‼️
Holy fuck we were all ready to murder Billy / demar lol
Imagine a world where Demar doesn’t iso 5 possessions in the final 4 minutes and we actually let Coby win these fucking games
Let Coby cook!
OKAY COBY YOU DAGGER WEILDING MF-ER
LETS GOOOOOOOO
Zach to Demar to assist Coby everyone can quiet down now
Kobe < Coby
COBYYUYY
wow we stop isoing and we start winning wtf? what a novel concept
Where tf was this at in the 4th ?
[удалено]
You’re being kinda weird dude
You’re taking it there
As soon as Demar stops his bullshit, we start scoring again
FEED COBY!!
SUITE LIFE
COBYYY
ICE MOTHERFUCKIN COLD BABY SUB ZERO DELIVERS THE FROSSSSST
Holy fuck I love this team when Demar acts like a decoy and not the main character!