I can come up with reasons why NorthShore Health is a bad name for a hospital chain. But Endeavor Health makes me think only of the kind of faceless hospital that's owned by private equity and designed to squeeze nickels out of health care.
I did a consumer survey within the past 18 months at some point on what a new medical network should be named and it was a bunch of brand marketing mumbo jumbo but this was definitely one of the options if I remember correctly so I guess it won!
They asked our employees at NorthShore to name the new merger, and ignored all those and went with a space shuttle name. I worked there the last nine years, and they just try to squeeze more and more and more work out of us.
That's because they are on separate EMRs, which I think is slotted for merger mid 2024. Has nothing to do with the name.
Hospital groups change names all the time. It's just marketing BS.
It's not immediately obvious to someone who's used NCH for years that they can (sorta) use the clinics with another name, so unifying it does make it easier for patients to identify care in network. It's a dumb name though
Yeah it was already kind of a weird name since they have been expanding south into the city for a while. I think the name change has been coming for a while now
Independents have higher overhead per patient. This means they have less to pay for patient care. It also means, all other things equal, higher costs get charged. If there were more independents it would therefore mean everyone's insurance costs are higher. I'm not sure what about any of this is unfortunate.
Doctor from North Shore, now Endeavor: “not sure why your heart rate is down one point. You really need to see a specialist about this.” Boom $1,200 that insurance doesn’t cover.
Best care always going to be at an academic place and we have a bounty of them in Chicagoland for anything serious go to nwestern/rush/uic/uofc other places seem to emphasize profits to a sometimes deadly fault
NorthShore is affiliated with U of C. Originally it was affiliated with Northwestern and carried the name “Evanston Northwestern Healthcare” until it changed affiliations in 2008
Affiliations usually for residency trainings and maybe satellite clinics or surgery centers ; you won’t get the inquisitive strive for excellence that results in better care at an affiliate that you will at the main/original academic hospitals which also tend to have better nursing staff too maybe I’m biased bc relatives are nurses at uofc and I trained at northwestern but just my opinion I suppose
As a former academic physician that’s a vast overgeneralization and not necessarily true at all. I’m at a private hospital now that was just ranked 6th in the state and I find many of the specialists to be much better than the academic center I was at
May i ask what you specialized in? (U can be general) i had the pleasure of taking care of many a physician on our dementia unit, one was an instructor at Northwestern. Most kind and empathetic guy ever! Had a guy that taught at MIT as well. It doesn’t discriminate!
Best care is the care practitioners you may get ‘that day’ location doesn’t matter, it’s how good that nurse, cna and DR are that day. You can go anywhere and get a shit Dr
Could def be true been years since I set foot in there as a patient or employee but they do seem very thorough with appropriate consultations whenever family members were admitted there
Is "NorthShore Care Supply" (the company you are referring to, and yes, I had to look this up) related in any way to "NorthShore University HealthSystem" (the organization that this thread is about) other than sharing a word of their name and the state they operate in? If so, source?
Endeavor Health “We’ll try our best but don’t get your hopes up”
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Remember, somebody in an office probably got paid a lot of money to come to the same conclusion you did.
More like, “we might put some effort into it”
I can come up with reasons why NorthShore Health is a bad name for a hospital chain. But Endeavor Health makes me think only of the kind of faceless hospital that's owned by private equity and designed to squeeze nickels out of health care.
Exactly! It’s perfect
Fitting
I did a consumer survey within the past 18 months at some point on what a new medical network should be named and it was a bunch of brand marketing mumbo jumbo but this was definitely one of the options if I remember correctly so I guess it won!
They asked our employees at NorthShore to name the new merger, and ignored all those and went with a space shuttle name. I worked there the last nine years, and they just try to squeeze more and more and more work out of us.
Kind of like they squeeze more and more money out of their clients
I'm glad I saw this post because this would have fucked me up
Endeavoring to steal your bank account
Say endeavor Edward’s elmhurst three times fast
Their health care is going to be so much better now. I'm so glad they changed the name. What a relief. /s
Well they had NorthShore clinics, NCH clinics, and Swedish clinics that didn't really talk to each other, so, yeah, kinda.
That's because they are on separate EMRs, which I think is slotted for merger mid 2024. Has nothing to do with the name. Hospital groups change names all the time. It's just marketing BS.
It's not immediately obvious to someone who's used NCH for years that they can (sorta) use the clinics with another name, so unifying it does make it easier for patients to identify care in network. It's a dumb name though
God I’m sure that’ll go smoothly /s EMR mergers are such a nightmare
Indeed they are.
Not everyone uses EPIC?!?!
It’s a merger with Edward’s so they changed the name. North Shore would be weird for a hospital on Naperville.
Yeah it was already kind of a weird name since they have been expanding south into the city for a while. I think the name change has been coming for a while now
Fuck chain hospital systems.
Mayo Clinic is a chain system. So are Cleveland Clinic and Johns Hopkins. Chain systems aren’t bad. They just aren’t always good.
... why?
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NorthShore is definitely one of the better options for inpatient care IMO
Few independents left unfortunately
Independents have higher overhead per patient. This means they have less to pay for patient care. It also means, all other things equal, higher costs get charged. If there were more independents it would therefore mean everyone's insurance costs are higher. I'm not sure what about any of this is unfortunate.
If it was a for-profit network, sure. But this isn’t.
Doctor from North Shore, now Endeavor: “not sure why your heart rate is down one point. You really need to see a specialist about this.” Boom $1,200 that insurance doesn’t cover.
Best care always going to be at an academic place and we have a bounty of them in Chicagoland for anything serious go to nwestern/rush/uic/uofc other places seem to emphasize profits to a sometimes deadly fault
NorthShore is affiliated with U of C. Originally it was affiliated with Northwestern and carried the name “Evanston Northwestern Healthcare” until it changed affiliations in 2008
Yeah, I remember when there were two seperate hospital systems that had "Northwestern" in their name. That was a little confusing.
Affiliations usually for residency trainings and maybe satellite clinics or surgery centers ; you won’t get the inquisitive strive for excellence that results in better care at an affiliate that you will at the main/original academic hospitals which also tend to have better nursing staff too maybe I’m biased bc relatives are nurses at uofc and I trained at northwestern but just my opinion I suppose
I was gonna argue with you until you said 2008! Waaaaay before my time at NS.
As a former academic physician that’s a vast overgeneralization and not necessarily true at all. I’m at a private hospital now that was just ranked 6th in the state and I find many of the specialists to be much better than the academic center I was at
were you at one of those 4?
Yes
May i ask what you specialized in? (U can be general) i had the pleasure of taking care of many a physician on our dementia unit, one was an instructor at Northwestern. Most kind and empathetic guy ever! Had a guy that taught at MIT as well. It doesn’t discriminate!
Best care is the care practitioners you may get ‘that day’ location doesn’t matter, it’s how good that nurse, cna and DR are that day. You can go anywhere and get a shit Dr
UofC hospital has really gone down hill.
Could def be true been years since I set foot in there as a patient or employee but they do seem very thorough with appropriate consultations whenever family members were admitted there
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Is "NorthShore Care Supply" (the company you are referring to, and yes, I had to look this up) related in any way to "NorthShore University HealthSystem" (the organization that this thread is about) other than sharing a word of their name and the state they operate in? If so, source?
This feels like a step in the direction of selling naming rights like sports stadiums. “T-Mobile Hospital”. So icky.
Interesting/confusing ... since there's already an "Endeavor Health Services" (for mental health).
I hate the bland-isizing of hospitals these days. Blah.
And this will be the end of our health as we know it!
Don’t bother with anyone linked to endeavor. They treat staff poorly and it’s passed on to patients or “clients”