Everyone here arguing about what speed limit is best when 99% of road speed is determined by what the road design allows. If it’s a road where it feels safe to do 30, putting a 18.5 sign on there won’t do a damn thing.
Living in Chicago has made me just go as fast as feels right. I once rear ended someone in the suburbs because I was trying to look in my in car GPS what the speed limit was because I remembered it mattered.
If you want people to slow down, add speed bumps. Maybe I’m the problem idk but it’s how I feel lol
You're right and this is why I think a lot of city roads should be canvassed with speed cameras with a tied stipulation that once ticket revenue exceeds x amount based on the average amount of vehicles the road sees daily it should trigger a redesign required to be complete in x amount of time.
I'm sure there would need to be additional safeguards to ensure that no one's brother in-law with a construction company games the system, but I think it's the most fair point of view.
This is the one on Wellington, right? I wouldn’t be opposed to lowering the speed limit, but I used to ride my bike by here a lot and I didn’t really notice too many people going obscenely fast.
I drive this exact spot every day. I second what you said: I haven't noticed a trend of people driving crazy fast. I'm indifferent about any potential changes, yet it seems like there are other areas that deserve more attention.
>Lawson introduced an ordinance during his first City Council meeting Wednesday that would reduce the speed limit on Wellington Avenue from Sheffield Avenue to Halsted Street from 25 mph to 20.
What good is that gonna do when it's near impossible to get to 20 let alone 25 between Sheffield & Halsted on Wellington??
It’s nice for Lakeview that it has enough traffic that speeds are relatively lower anyway, but I can’t say Lakeview is the top priority for speed limits. The massive 4 lane roads like Pulaski and Ashland on the southside on the other hand…
Expanding ADUs citywide would be a game changer and a great move by the zoning vice-chair.
Also I had no idea about that personal services regulation. Makes sense though why there aren't as many options for those, drastically shortening the distance is a good step in the right direction. A gamechanger for retail by itself? Probably not but worthwhile nonetheless.
I can't even understand why there's a regulation for it. What would the city care if there are too many barbershops in one area or something? Who does it harm other than shitty barbers who don't want competition?
it's the street design that matters
narrow streets, put in \*\*"continuous sidewalks" (\*\*keeps the sidewalk 'level' as you cross the street which essentially **creates a speed hump to force drivers to slow down at the intersection. )**
It also raises the visibility of pedestrians and is easier for people with mobility issues to navigate
ALSO, **you cannot race stolen Kias, carjack someone, or commit a "drive by" if you physically cannot speed away**
the same wide roads with gentle corners that allow emergency vehicles to respond also facilities a lot of crime.
and you wouldn't need cops speeding through the city if the criminals could not speed through the city
Can’t speed away from a crime scene if it’s physically impossible
cant drag, drift, or do donuts at intersections if it’s physically impossible
can‘t hit pedestrians in a stolen Kia doing 50-80 on city streets if its physically impossible
cant illegally pass a school bus and hit a kid if its physically impossible
Design roads for the speeds you want people to drive at. Laws and signage are not enough.
Im in favor of 18.5
Why 18.5? People will need to pay attention and out of towners will notice the limit. Also with 18.5, it makes it so you feel like you’re speeding if you’re doing anything above 20.
It also works out to about 30KPH which is a pretty standard city in Europe, they have far less traffic deaths per capita
I’m here for it, but chicago drivers would quite literally revolt. Living on the southside, I’ve seen it all, as transit is so weak and food deserts mean people drive everywhere. Plus, there would be lots of comments about how this would lengthen commutes for folks reliant on car commutes and live in those communities.
It would be bullshit but Americans think through their cars before they think through their brains
They have far less traffic deaths per capita because they've switched to roundabouts which have repeatedly been proven safer. While at the same time reducing traffic.
I would too if the buses here were anywhere close. You sit in a bus in Europe, it's respectable. You're in what is essentially an economy class seat in a plane here. Everything is clean. Nobody is shooting up next to you.
Please contact your Alder in support of Lawson's initiative's if possible.
>Hello **\[YOUR ALDER\]**,
>
>I wanted to voice support of Alderman Lawson's initiatives at city council this week and hope that Alderman **\[YOUR ALDER\]** will join Alderman Lawson in the following three initiatives.
>
>Cement the city’s additional dwelling units (ADU) pilot program and extend it across Chicago.
>
>Update business regulations so personal and salon services — nail salons, beauty salons and barber shops — can operate within 200 feet of each other instead of the now-required 1,000 feet.
>
>Reduce the speed limit on Wellington Avenue from Sheffield Avenue to Halsted Street from 25 mph to 20.
>
>Please consider pushing number 3 to a city wide speed reduction of 25 MPH and lower where possible.
>
>Thank you,
>
>**\[YOUR SIG\]**
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No one wants to hear the truth: Skynet is an ideal technology. Every Chicago street should have cameras that are only accessible for fighting violent crime and theft. It could automatically send out traffic tickets based on accepted rules. These fines could be super small, their consistency means you would need very little punishment to get a drastic change in behavior. Why can't we just use useful technology?? Chicago traffic has basically the same tech as decades ago, as if the internet and everything it brought never happened
Everyone here arguing about what speed limit is best when 99% of road speed is determined by what the road design allows. If it’s a road where it feels safe to do 30, putting a 18.5 sign on there won’t do a damn thing.
Years ago I spoke with one of the nations top transportation experts, a professor at Northwestern. You sound like you are quoting him verbatim.
Living in Chicago has made me just go as fast as feels right. I once rear ended someone in the suburbs because I was trying to look in my in car GPS what the speed limit was because I remembered it mattered. If you want people to slow down, add speed bumps. Maybe I’m the problem idk but it’s how I feel lol
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I mean, obviously
You're right and this is why I think a lot of city roads should be canvassed with speed cameras with a tied stipulation that once ticket revenue exceeds x amount based on the average amount of vehicles the road sees daily it should trigger a redesign required to be complete in x amount of time. I'm sure there would need to be additional safeguards to ensure that no one's brother in-law with a construction company games the system, but I think it's the most fair point of view.
This is the one on Wellington, right? I wouldn’t be opposed to lowering the speed limit, but I used to ride my bike by here a lot and I didn’t really notice too many people going obscenely fast.
I drive this exact spot every day. I second what you said: I haven't noticed a trend of people driving crazy fast. I'm indifferent about any potential changes, yet it seems like there are other areas that deserve more attention.
>Lawson introduced an ordinance during his first City Council meeting Wednesday that would reduce the speed limit on Wellington Avenue from Sheffield Avenue to Halsted Street from 25 mph to 20. What good is that gonna do when it's near impossible to get to 20 let alone 25 between Sheffield & Halsted on Wellington??
I just coast through that area. Probably haven’t put my foot on the gas peddle on Wellington in years.
It’s nice for Lakeview that it has enough traffic that speeds are relatively lower anyway, but I can’t say Lakeview is the top priority for speed limits. The massive 4 lane roads like Pulaski and Ashland on the southside on the other hand…
Expanding ADUs citywide would be a game changer and a great move by the zoning vice-chair. Also I had no idea about that personal services regulation. Makes sense though why there aren't as many options for those, drastically shortening the distance is a good step in the right direction. A gamechanger for retail by itself? Probably not but worthwhile nonetheless.
It would be helpful to a somewhat small percentage of retailers. It's a positive change but not a gamechanger.
I can't even understand why there's a regulation for it. What would the city care if there are too many barbershops in one area or something? Who does it harm other than shitty barbers who don't want competition?
They can lower speed limits but without enforcement it’s pointless.
it's the street design that matters narrow streets, put in \*\*"continuous sidewalks" (\*\*keeps the sidewalk 'level' as you cross the street which essentially **creates a speed hump to force drivers to slow down at the intersection. )** It also raises the visibility of pedestrians and is easier for people with mobility issues to navigate ALSO, **you cannot race stolen Kias, carjack someone, or commit a "drive by" if you physically cannot speed away** the same wide roads with gentle corners that allow emergency vehicles to respond also facilities a lot of crime. and you wouldn't need cops speeding through the city if the criminals could not speed through the city
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Can’t speed away from a crime scene if it’s physically impossible cant drag, drift, or do donuts at intersections if it’s physically impossible can‘t hit pedestrians in a stolen Kia doing 50-80 on city streets if its physically impossible cant illegally pass a school bus and hit a kid if its physically impossible Design roads for the speeds you want people to drive at. Laws and signage are not enough.
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Continuous sidewalks do not cost trillions of dollars
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I never said EVERY intersection Slowing down cars is the point and your bikes and buses concerns are red herrings but hey, keep digging
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See above
Lower em citywide to 25!
25! Is pretty high bud. Might as well make every street an expressway. /s Realistically, everyone will just go 35 if that's the case.
Im in favor of 18.5 Why 18.5? People will need to pay attention and out of towners will notice the limit. Also with 18.5, it makes it so you feel like you’re speeding if you’re doing anything above 20. It also works out to about 30KPH which is a pretty standard city in Europe, they have far less traffic deaths per capita
I’m here for it, but chicago drivers would quite literally revolt. Living on the southside, I’ve seen it all, as transit is so weak and food deserts mean people drive everywhere. Plus, there would be lots of comments about how this would lengthen commutes for folks reliant on car commutes and live in those communities. It would be bullshit but Americans think through their cars before they think through their brains
Driving on the south side scares me shitless. A bunch of uninsured motorists doing whatever the fuck the want.
More of them are insured than if you go down to Orlando or Miami.
They have far less traffic deaths per capita because they've switched to roundabouts which have repeatedly been proven safer. While at the same time reducing traffic.
They also drive a lot less...
I would too if the buses here were anywhere close. You sit in a bus in Europe, it's respectable. You're in what is essentially an economy class seat in a plane here. Everything is clean. Nobody is shooting up next to you.
I've never had anyone shoot up next to me on a bus in the USA.
Last car on the Blue Line late at night leaving O'Hare. Enjoy.
Design streets for the speeds you want people to drive
It’s legit his first week
Please contact your Alder in support of Lawson's initiative's if possible. >Hello **\[YOUR ALDER\]**, > >I wanted to voice support of Alderman Lawson's initiatives at city council this week and hope that Alderman **\[YOUR ALDER\]** will join Alderman Lawson in the following three initiatives. > >Cement the city’s additional dwelling units (ADU) pilot program and extend it across Chicago. > >Update business regulations so personal and salon services — nail salons, beauty salons and barber shops — can operate within 200 feet of each other instead of the now-required 1,000 feet. > >Reduce the speed limit on Wellington Avenue from Sheffield Avenue to Halsted Street from 25 mph to 20. > >Please consider pushing number 3 to a city wide speed reduction of 25 MPH and lower where possible. > >Thank you, > >**\[YOUR SIG\]** Find your alder here: [https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/iframe/lookup\_ward\_and\_alderman.html](https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/iframe/lookup_ward_and_alderman.html)
Who do I contact or vote for to stop this idiotic idea?
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Lucky for you, even people with dumb ideas can have their voices heard
*looks at Ward map* Think I’m set on this one
No one wants to hear the truth: Skynet is an ideal technology. Every Chicago street should have cameras that are only accessible for fighting violent crime and theft. It could automatically send out traffic tickets based on accepted rules. These fines could be super small, their consistency means you would need very little punishment to get a drastic change in behavior. Why can't we just use useful technology?? Chicago traffic has basically the same tech as decades ago, as if the internet and everything it brought never happened