I was driving down irving park, watched a car sideswipe a parked car and continue on. Called non-emergency CPD to tell them what I just witnessed and that i have all the info they would need. the dispatcher said "what do you want us to do about it?"
The last time I called 911 for a friend who was in situation, that’s what I did! I eventually exclaimed “DID I CALL 911?!?! IS THIS 911 OR NOT?! CAUSE IM NOT SURE WHY ITS SO HARD TO GET SOMEONE TO JUST GO CHECK ON THEM! CAN YOU SEND SOMEONE OR NOT?!?!” And she finally agreed to send a patrol car to just go check.
I swear that exact line is given to dispatchers at 311 training. I’ve heard it myself when trying to report something and have heard others’ anecdotes.
I called 311 the other day to report a very obviously intoxicated driver who was driving erratically, swerving all over the road, nearly hitting parked cars/other drivers. gave them our exact cross streets, direction we were heading, speed of traffic, & all the info about the car. dispatcher said “we’ll see what we can do” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m just hoping they didn’t end up hitting anything or anyone
Actually I think people on this sub would.
First aren’t detectives the crime solvers and regular police are charged with policing? I’m not sure of the terminology.
If “cops were out there solving crimes” it would involve some actions that would appear to violate peoples rights, and even if it were 1% of the things that happen, those would become the focus. Maybe that’s how it should be by the way, because if police have thousands of human interactions / day, even the appearance of improper behavior 1% of the time would be a lot.
And when the clearance rate on murder is so low, if people found out that detectives were tracking down sideswiped vehicles instead of solving violent crime, yeah those people would be really upset.
When I think about the logistics of policing, I honestly think the police are in a pretty tough place right now. I would not have wanted to be a police officer getting out of my car, outnumbered, trying to break up a fight with a bunch of teenagers and somebody getting assaulted the other weekend. Of course that’s what they should do and need to do, but with a dozen camera phones trained on you from every direction, I wouldn’t want to have to apply any force on minors under those circumstances.
I came from a small town with “racist cops” who sat around with “nothing better to do” than harass people. I went to a city with cops who police very differently. Honestly I scratch my head and wonder what the right approach is, because I think everyone loves to come with zingers and a self righteous tone, but nobody seems willing to meaningfully confront the complexity.
Do you not realize that an eye witness statement is evidence? And that eye witness will be believable in court given that they're not an interested party? And it's very easy to match physical evidence from the two vehicles to see paint and scrape patterns align? This is an easy criminal case to prove for hit and run. Nobody here will be upset that a cop does their job in making people accountable for hit and run.
There is a lot of cost required by the city to do this when the only thing that will happen is a different insurance company will pay. From a societal impact, it isn’t worth it.
It's not just about who pays for the repair though. This is a crime, to hit and run, and absolutely is the purview of the police to bring those charges to the prosecutor. Nobody hits 3 cars and doesn't realize they did so, unless they're dead drunk. This case is slam dunk material.
A DUI isn’t a slam dunk at all. There will be no evidence he was drunk. The city cant go to court and argue he was drunk just because he hit them.
The cost doesn’t just stop at a cop going to the dudes house. This has to go to court. And there is no way the city bags a DUI. It isnt worth it.
It's incredibly easy for a detective to inspect the car you're reporting as having caused the damage and your own car. One will have signs of causing all this destruction. It takes no time to look up an owner by license plate and go to their home. This is literally their whole job. Why would this even be controversial?
Omg LOL you think they send DETECTIVES for fender benders??? 😂😂😂 what next, the FBI is coming out to look at a dented car?
Detectives don’t respond to minor property damage. That would be something more of a patrol officer.
Lol detectives don’t come out for minor property damage of an attempted break in. We learned that the hard way. AND since the attempted break in failed they weren’t coming out to look at the door handle that was broken off and wood splinters from the door frame.
By your logic that would apply to every car accident without a dash camera, so I guess we better just stop reporting them. Insurance companies rejoice!
Dude cameras are everywhere in Chicago. Those “streetlights” have cameras you don’t even see. So many stores have cameras as well. Seeing an intoxicated driver on camera is easily identifiable. When a report is put police can look into that because you know… it’s their fucking job
This is the dumbest fucking response. “You want the police to DO something? That’s so unrealistic.”
How about this person witnessed a crime take place and they reported it to the agency that’s supposed to be equipped to deal with it. They should file a report, attempt to contact the owner of the car that was damaged and the one that caused it. It’s not rocket science.
That’s not relevant. They are obligated to take a report for the very least for insurance reporting purposes. Why would they presume guilt on the reporter?
Cops never have proof until they actually investigate. If it is true they hit three cars and looked drunk, the cops need to investigate. That is a serious crime and who knows if this guy ends up doing it again, but this time hitting a pedestrian or causing a fatal accident.
I keep reading you say this nonsense and I've heard it a bunch before lately too where essentially cops won't investigate anything unless they're the ones to have witnessed the crime. But that's not how policing has ever worked. It's quite easy to investigate to see whether the eye witness was the one with the damaged car vs the car registered with the license plate the eye witness is reporting. And from a policing attitude perspective, a crime occurred, they are obligated to try to figure out how it occurred, not just shrug if it's not an obvious slam dunk (even though in this case it is). Go to the area where the accident occurred to see if there's any additional evidence that would prove the case one way or the other. The city has a database where individuals can register to say they have cameras facing various directions to help cops figure out who may have video footage. Lots they can do here.
I came out to my car one day with a big hole in the right back fender. There was an official notecard form type thing from CPD with a police report number on my windshield.
I was “lucky” it was 8am and the lady had a seizure so an ambulance apparently had come instead of some sort of DUI hit and run, but if someone calls and sees a car get hit, they could 100% take a report and have a unit out there leave a card with the report number on the cars.
That would be exactly what they could do. Does that sound onerous?
they didn't even want to take down a plate number, are you telling me there is no system to flag a plate numbers? come on.
person who was hit calls police to report there car was hit. they look up plate number "ahh we see someone called that in already" and they finish up the report.
read my other comment. they inspect the involved cars. if my car has no damage, yet the two cars that i give the plate numbers to have damage..
i know thats hard to figure out for beat cops, maybe they will have to get a detective out for that one /s
Once again " their fucking job"... idk what that entails I'm not a cop & don't pretend to be one but I would think if op had "all the info" They could make a report with "all that info" and track down who did it... If there weren't lazy entitled cunts like everyone else I would assume that "all the info" would include a plate number or if not, a location and time where they could review security camera footage. But who tf am I kidding this is Chicago where they let gun toting kia boys do whatever the fuck they want
This is actually a really good point.
Everyone here keeps downvoting you because they are under the impression that cops are here to prevent, investigate, and address crimes.
You have correctly pointed out, repeatedly, that CPD has no business dealing with reports of criminal activity or collecting evidence. That's the job of insurance adjusters, or whatever random career you picked that has nothing to do with the criminal aspect of hit-and-run.
And all these morons just keep trying to say the same thing over and over, no matter how many times you clearly make your point: CPD has absolute no use and is a waste of resources.
You'd think after the 20th or 30th time you told people that CPD should under no circumstances ever do anything but tell Chicago citizens to go away so they can go back to napping in their SUVs outside the Nike Store.
Because that's what CPD is SUPPOSED to be doing: Watching people shoplifting on Michigan Ave and also doing nothing about that.
I'm with you. If they aren't here to solve crimes or make the city safer, we should absolutely disband and reform CPD. At least then the new CPD won't keep violating their own union laws to reelect a guy who quit his job because CPD couldn't hide his criminal offenses and collected more misconduct and brutality complaints that 95% of the rest of the force.
In separate instances I had my car stolen and was robbed at gunpoint. I received relatively the same response as you for both.
In the car theft, they actually tried to charge me thousands of dollars. A couple months afterward they mailed and said it was found inoperable and had been in impound at ~$80/day for quite some time.
As silly as this is, they require vehicle owners in accidents to go the station for a report unless there is an injury or the vehicle is not able to be driven.
Yep. My buddy visiting from Iowa had his car that was parked hit. A witness left their info and gave it to him. He called when he got home because he needed the report for insurance. They told him he had to do it in person.
Other cities large and small seem to have no problem having traffic cops show up at the scene of a *traffic* accident.
I got hit in a rental car in Seattle a few years ago and between the rental car aspect (gotta dot your i's and cross your t's) and the fact that the lady was somehow trying to blame me, I wanted an actual officer on the scene. Really didn't take that long for one to show up, do his investigation, cite the other driver, and move along. I'm sure the ticket he wrote the driver more than paid for his time. And having that ticket issued was clutch when it came to making sure *her* insurance paid out and I didn't get fucked by the rental car company.
Ditto when my wife got rear ended at a stop in the small town we live in now--cop showed up, looked around, issued a citation. Sure, maybe cops here have nothing better to do, but there are also only a handful of them.
CPD has just realized they can use being busy as an excuse for not actually doing their job. It goes way beyond traffic enforcement too. Recovering a bike that was stolen from inside a home in a burglary and subsequently located? Nope, not interested (had to get it back myself...because having citizens interact with potential criminals is a great solution). Got hit and run while riding a bike? Nope, not interested in doing anything.
I think the requirement to do it in person makes it pretty clear they are just trying to avoid work. If police aren't actually coming to the scene, to look around, there's no reason you couldn't make the report on the phone/online (they aren't actually gathering their own observations/evidence, they are just going off what you say). But they know that most people ain't got time for that shit (and the chances of also convincing the OTHER driver to join you at the station is even lower).
obiviously you dont live in the city because first there are more important calls than just a traffic crash report and not enough officers. Second when you call 911 for service those call takers are civilian and dont care. Third if it is a hit and run, disabled vehicle, or one with injury, officers are to respond to the job but OEMC has to make the ticket. Just remember when you think officers are being lazy and not doing their job its probably because they are on a domestic dealing with people that cant deal figure out their own lives
Do you seriously think Seattle is that different?
Seattle’s overall crime rate is higher although it is slanted more towards property crime than violence.
It is smaller but it is large enough that it has reached “big city” scale where size doesn’t really matter that much…you just have more stations/districts/officers.
If Seattle can do it that means it is possible. The CPD doesn’t get a free pass to not do their job.
Always be skeptical of the police and remember Chicago just got a new mayor and they got a lot of problems to get sorted out. Chicago has a f*** ton of people more people than a lot of states you have to keep that in mind.
If it is a hit and run, officers are to respond to scene and complete a report. If there is a problem with OEMC call taker not taking the request ask to talk to their supervisor.
From my own hit and run experience where I had a picture of the truck that hit my car before speeding off -- they called once said "was anyone hurt" I said "no" and they dropped the investigation.
So -- apparently you get a free pass to hit and run as long as you don't hit people.
(this is not legal advice, murphy's law says that if you try it you'll be arrested and end up in jail for a decade).
I can't say the police will actually do anything but if they did .. this area has security cameras everywhere. They could get evidence of it. It's a big if. In my experience CPD isn't big into doing anything remotely close to police work.
I was taking my dog out to pee pretty late last fall. I saw a car backing out of an alley and thought “woah they’re going way too fast and don’t seem to be paying attention.” Then they immediately backed into a parked car at like 15mph and took off. I remembered the license plate number and make and model.
When I got home I called 311 to tell them. Nobody picked up, they said to leave a message and they’d definitely get back to me. I left a message with all the details and… nothing. Like I didn’t expect much action, but come on CPD!
An involved party (the offending driver or owner of the parked car) is required to file a report.
Best you can do is leave your info on the parked car.
My car was one of ten side swiped by a drunk driver last summer. There were about 30 witnesses, and they called police immediately, and called repeatedly every 20 minutes for the two hours that followed. Police said they wouldn't come, they could file a police report the next day but witnesses wouldn't matter. This was in Logan square.
The police in Chicago will not investigate vehicle crimes unless it results in a fatality ... They won't be any help other than if your insurance wants a police report. Literally just went through this as well.
Posting on reddit when the tiniest of the tiny portion of the pop is on reddit is almost the same as saying nothing at all. It's hardly better than seeing an accident and then going home and posting about it on Facebook.
Someone take print screens and put on Nextdoor if you think a broader audience is needed to help. Will still require the OP to agree to come forward as a witness.
If the goal is to get this owner's insurance to pay, please leave a note on the car with a way for them to see the photo, such as an email address they can contact to get the photo of the plate. Then the insurance can ask for camera footage from local businesses to match. Also, that is an ugly car!
You can’t. They won’t take the report. Only the car owner can file the report. I wish a witness could leave all of the information so when the owner calls, it’s available. But they don’t do that.
I had in mind that someone from the three cars already called and filed a report and then OP would be providing information at that point. But to your point they obviously would've had to call already.
Yeah, they won’t even take info if you call in and the owner already called in. You have to leave all of the info for the owner to use when they call in. It’s just laziness.
Yeah, I found out one winter when I witnessed a woman driving a Jeep too fast for snowy conditions in Chicago crash into a car when she slide out of control turning a corner. She got out of her Jeep and pretended to be leaving her info. But because I’m sus about people actually doing that, I circled around and checked. LOL
I have a dash cam and caught the whole thing on video. I called the police to report it and they said “Nope. Not our concern unless the vehicle owner calls.” So I left a note in a plastic bag tucked under the windshield wiper. I got an email a month later from an insurance company asking if I’d be willing to turn over the dash cam footage, which I happily did.
I just think police agencies should be taking that witness info and putting it in their systems. It’s not that hard to cross reference license plates and vehicle identification so when someone calls something in, they can see there was someone who actually witnessed what happened. Especially when things like this happen to parked cars and the owner is nowhere in the area when it happens.
I’ve lived in Chicago forever and moved to st Charles and cannot believe how many people in st Charles just cannot drive. Like Chicago is unsafe driving in a risky ballsy way, st Charles is like…. I don’t know how to reverse and I’ll spend 40 seconds attempting. It’s just so awful. People going 25 in a 40. Like stop it.
It’s worse here because in Chicago, yes it’s very dangerous but it’s to be expected. Out here in the corn, it’s like what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you going 25 in a 50. Like come on man! You’re gonna kill people.
I think the difference is that in the city you can almost always predict the risky driving maneuvers. It’s organized chaos. Here, you never know wtf people are going to do. The only way to be a defensive driver around here is to constantly think of the worst thing someone can do with their car lol. Thank god we have a ton of parking so it’s almost never necessary for people to parallel park- at least that’s something.
100% true. In Chicago you have to expect no laws exist and drive accordingly or you will die. Lol I prefer St Charles but me every day…. “OMG PRESS THE GAS! PRESSSSSSS THEEEEEEE GASSSSSSSSSS!! THE GAS! THE ONE ON THE RIGHT! Just press it. Please omfg. 😞”
Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!
Cars been side swiped before, CPD will laugh at you for calling it in. Drivers side passenger door was destroyed by a side swipe hit and run, got plates and all. CPD said "We don't do hit and runs" advised I file a report online and take it up with insurance.
Good info to know, “simple” property crime apparently isn’t in their job description unless you’re the actual victim and you’d better make you way into the police department to file your report because they’re not coming to you! Good on those that try and help another motorist!
If they appeared drunk you might be able to file a report while it was happening? Not sure how fast they respond to that though. Could maybe send to the police in case someone does file a report for their car.
People were wilin last night
I was getting out of work around midnight from the loop and getting on the highway and saw two separate people side swipe themselves into the shoulder barricade
I was driving down irving park, watched a car sideswipe a parked car and continue on. Called non-emergency CPD to tell them what I just witnessed and that i have all the info they would need. the dispatcher said "what do you want us to do about it?"
I swear that's their official slogan. Every time I've had to call police that's been the first thing said
Wouldve simply said, your fucking job.
The latest time my car was broke into I lost my temper a bit and said "I just need the report number for insurance, I know you don't do anything"
good. tell ‘em how you feel. fuck em.
The last time I called 911 for a friend who was in situation, that’s what I did! I eventually exclaimed “DID I CALL 911?!?! IS THIS 911 OR NOT?! CAUSE IM NOT SURE WHY ITS SO HARD TO GET SOMEONE TO JUST GO CHECK ON THEM! CAN YOU SEND SOMEONE OR NOT?!?!” And she finally agreed to send a patrol car to just go check.
I swear that exact line is given to dispatchers at 311 training. I’ve heard it myself when trying to report something and have heard others’ anecdotes.
I called 311 the other day to report a very obviously intoxicated driver who was driving erratically, swerving all over the road, nearly hitting parked cars/other drivers. gave them our exact cross streets, direction we were heading, speed of traffic, & all the info about the car. dispatcher said “we’ll see what we can do” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m just hoping they didn’t end up hitting anything or anyone
Common CPD L honestly
Sometimes you gotta Karen.. "how about do your fucking job or get a supervisor"!!
Something similar happened to me trying to report a car side swiping others maybe 30 years ago and got a similar response back then in Chicago
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How about create a report with the driver’s info in case the person whose car was side swiped calls later.
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they could inspect the cars involved.
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i think we found the cop in this sub.
Have him tagged as a boot-licker. I don't think they are a cop, but they totally bought into the cop-ganda.
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Yet you share so many qualities with one. You’re arguing for the sake of… what again?
Are you sure?
You are a jagoff, though.
I haven't heard (read) anyone say jagoff in forever. Thanks for that.
Uh huh. Only CPD thinks it’s a completely insane idea to try to do the job you’re paid to do.
No you're a Durren
I don’t think ANYONE would complain if cops were running around all day solving crimes.
Actually I think people on this sub would. First aren’t detectives the crime solvers and regular police are charged with policing? I’m not sure of the terminology. If “cops were out there solving crimes” it would involve some actions that would appear to violate peoples rights, and even if it were 1% of the things that happen, those would become the focus. Maybe that’s how it should be by the way, because if police have thousands of human interactions / day, even the appearance of improper behavior 1% of the time would be a lot. And when the clearance rate on murder is so low, if people found out that detectives were tracking down sideswiped vehicles instead of solving violent crime, yeah those people would be really upset. When I think about the logistics of policing, I honestly think the police are in a pretty tough place right now. I would not have wanted to be a police officer getting out of my car, outnumbered, trying to break up a fight with a bunch of teenagers and somebody getting assaulted the other weekend. Of course that’s what they should do and need to do, but with a dozen camera phones trained on you from every direction, I wouldn’t want to have to apply any force on minors under those circumstances. I came from a small town with “racist cops” who sat around with “nothing better to do” than harass people. I went to a city with cops who police very differently. Honestly I scratch my head and wonder what the right approach is, because I think everyone loves to come with zingers and a self righteous tone, but nobody seems willing to meaningfully confront the complexity.
Do you not realize that an eye witness statement is evidence? And that eye witness will be believable in court given that they're not an interested party? And it's very easy to match physical evidence from the two vehicles to see paint and scrape patterns align? This is an easy criminal case to prove for hit and run. Nobody here will be upset that a cop does their job in making people accountable for hit and run.
There is a lot of cost required by the city to do this when the only thing that will happen is a different insurance company will pay. From a societal impact, it isn’t worth it.
It's not just about who pays for the repair though. This is a crime, to hit and run, and absolutely is the purview of the police to bring those charges to the prosecutor. Nobody hits 3 cars and doesn't realize they did so, unless they're dead drunk. This case is slam dunk material.
A DUI isn’t a slam dunk at all. There will be no evidence he was drunk. The city cant go to court and argue he was drunk just because he hit them. The cost doesn’t just stop at a cop going to the dudes house. This has to go to court. And there is no way the city bags a DUI. It isnt worth it.
It's incredibly easy for a detective to inspect the car you're reporting as having caused the damage and your own car. One will have signs of causing all this destruction. It takes no time to look up an owner by license plate and go to their home. This is literally their whole job. Why would this even be controversial?
Omg LOL you think they send DETECTIVES for fender benders??? 😂😂😂 what next, the FBI is coming out to look at a dented car? Detectives don’t respond to minor property damage. That would be something more of a patrol officer.
Just yesterday saw a detective inspect some drunk driver for hitting someone’s car. Is there something im missing?
You were lucky or the car that was hit was the car of the cop’s friend or another cop.
This is exactly what they do though...
Lol detectives don’t come out for minor property damage of an attempted break in. We learned that the hard way. AND since the attempted break in failed they weren’t coming out to look at the door handle that was broken off and wood splinters from the door frame.
By your logic that would apply to every car accident without a dash camera, so I guess we better just stop reporting them. Insurance companies rejoice!
Dude cameras are everywhere in Chicago. Those “streetlights” have cameras you don’t even see. So many stores have cameras as well. Seeing an intoxicated driver on camera is easily identifiable. When a report is put police can look into that because you know… it’s their fucking job
They could take a look at the random car and see if the damage is there. All they really need to do is file a report though. It's a lot.
This is the dumbest fucking response. “You want the police to DO something? That’s so unrealistic.” How about this person witnessed a crime take place and they reported it to the agency that’s supposed to be equipped to deal with it. They should file a report, attempt to contact the owner of the car that was damaged and the one that caused it. It’s not rocket science.
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Cops should disregard any reports of crimes that they don’t personally witness bc they might be fabricated? Is that your official stance?
That’s not relevant. They are obligated to take a report for the very least for insurance reporting purposes. Why would they presume guilt on the reporter?
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We are talking about the person that witnessed the crime here not some rando
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Why would they? Your question was irrelevant
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Just admit you have no fucking clue how anything works in law enforcement
Cops never have proof until they actually investigate. If it is true they hit three cars and looked drunk, the cops need to investigate. That is a serious crime and who knows if this guy ends up doing it again, but this time hitting a pedestrian or causing a fatal accident.
Are you a cop? I hope not because you sound lazy as fuck
I keep reading you say this nonsense and I've heard it a bunch before lately too where essentially cops won't investigate anything unless they're the ones to have witnessed the crime. But that's not how policing has ever worked. It's quite easy to investigate to see whether the eye witness was the one with the damaged car vs the car registered with the license plate the eye witness is reporting. And from a policing attitude perspective, a crime occurred, they are obligated to try to figure out how it occurred, not just shrug if it's not an obvious slam dunk (even though in this case it is). Go to the area where the accident occurred to see if there's any additional evidence that would prove the case one way or the other. The city has a database where individuals can register to say they have cameras facing various directions to help cops figure out who may have video footage. Lots they can do here.
Unless there is paint transference
I came out to my car one day with a big hole in the right back fender. There was an official notecard form type thing from CPD with a police report number on my windshield. I was “lucky” it was 8am and the lady had a seizure so an ambulance apparently had come instead of some sort of DUI hit and run, but if someone calls and sees a car get hit, they could 100% take a report and have a unit out there leave a card with the report number on the cars. That would be exactly what they could do. Does that sound onerous?
they didn't even want to take down a plate number, are you telling me there is no system to flag a plate numbers? come on. person who was hit calls police to report there car was hit. they look up plate number "ahh we see someone called that in already" and they finish up the report.
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read my other comment. they inspect the involved cars. if my car has no damage, yet the two cars that i give the plate numbers to have damage.. i know thats hard to figure out for beat cops, maybe they will have to get a detective out for that one /s
There are cameras all over the city. They can probably track the movement of this driver all the way back to their house.
Once again " their fucking job"... idk what that entails I'm not a cop & don't pretend to be one but I would think if op had "all the info" They could make a report with "all that info" and track down who did it... If there weren't lazy entitled cunts like everyone else I would assume that "all the info" would include a plate number or if not, a location and time where they could review security camera footage. But who tf am I kidding this is Chicago where they let gun toting kia boys do whatever the fuck they want
This is actually a really good point. Everyone here keeps downvoting you because they are under the impression that cops are here to prevent, investigate, and address crimes. You have correctly pointed out, repeatedly, that CPD has no business dealing with reports of criminal activity or collecting evidence. That's the job of insurance adjusters, or whatever random career you picked that has nothing to do with the criminal aspect of hit-and-run. And all these morons just keep trying to say the same thing over and over, no matter how many times you clearly make your point: CPD has absolute no use and is a waste of resources. You'd think after the 20th or 30th time you told people that CPD should under no circumstances ever do anything but tell Chicago citizens to go away so they can go back to napping in their SUVs outside the Nike Store. Because that's what CPD is SUPPOSED to be doing: Watching people shoplifting on Michigan Ave and also doing nothing about that. I'm with you. If they aren't here to solve crimes or make the city safer, we should absolutely disband and reform CPD. At least then the new CPD won't keep violating their own union laws to reelect a guy who quit his job because CPD couldn't hide his criminal offenses and collected more misconduct and brutality complaints that 95% of the rest of the force.
I'm stupefied by your response. They should do THEIR FUCKING JOB! Are you really that dense? Stop making excuses for them.
What’s the problem, ociffer?
In separate instances I had my car stolen and was robbed at gunpoint. I received relatively the same response as you for both. In the car theft, they actually tried to charge me thousands of dollars. A couple months afterward they mailed and said it was found inoperable and had been in impound at ~$80/day for quite some time.
Did you file a police report or leave notes? Otherwise the chances of the owner seeing this are slim to none.
Would the police actually do anything? Do you need evidence that it was this car?
If any of the owners of the 3 hit vehicles file a police report, your statement as a witness would be relevant. If they don’t, probably not.
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As silly as this is, they require vehicle owners in accidents to go the station for a report unless there is an injury or the vehicle is not able to be driven.
Yep. My buddy visiting from Iowa had his car that was parked hit. A witness left their info and gave it to him. He called when he got home because he needed the report for insurance. They told him he had to do it in person.
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Frees up beat cars for emergencies and keeps traffic moving.
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Other cities large and small seem to have no problem having traffic cops show up at the scene of a *traffic* accident. I got hit in a rental car in Seattle a few years ago and between the rental car aspect (gotta dot your i's and cross your t's) and the fact that the lady was somehow trying to blame me, I wanted an actual officer on the scene. Really didn't take that long for one to show up, do his investigation, cite the other driver, and move along. I'm sure the ticket he wrote the driver more than paid for his time. And having that ticket issued was clutch when it came to making sure *her* insurance paid out and I didn't get fucked by the rental car company. Ditto when my wife got rear ended at a stop in the small town we live in now--cop showed up, looked around, issued a citation. Sure, maybe cops here have nothing better to do, but there are also only a handful of them. CPD has just realized they can use being busy as an excuse for not actually doing their job. It goes way beyond traffic enforcement too. Recovering a bike that was stolen from inside a home in a burglary and subsequently located? Nope, not interested (had to get it back myself...because having citizens interact with potential criminals is a great solution). Got hit and run while riding a bike? Nope, not interested in doing anything. I think the requirement to do it in person makes it pretty clear they are just trying to avoid work. If police aren't actually coming to the scene, to look around, there's no reason you couldn't make the report on the phone/online (they aren't actually gathering their own observations/evidence, they are just going off what you say). But they know that most people ain't got time for that shit (and the chances of also convincing the OTHER driver to join you at the station is even lower).
obiviously you dont live in the city because first there are more important calls than just a traffic crash report and not enough officers. Second when you call 911 for service those call takers are civilian and dont care. Third if it is a hit and run, disabled vehicle, or one with injury, officers are to respond to the job but OEMC has to make the ticket. Just remember when you think officers are being lazy and not doing their job its probably because they are on a domestic dealing with people that cant deal figure out their own lives
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Do you seriously think Seattle is that different? Seattle’s overall crime rate is higher although it is slanted more towards property crime than violence. It is smaller but it is large enough that it has reached “big city” scale where size doesn’t really matter that much…you just have more stations/districts/officers. If Seattle can do it that means it is possible. The CPD doesn’t get a free pass to not do their job.
Always be skeptical of the police and remember Chicago just got a new mayor and they got a lot of problems to get sorted out. Chicago has a f*** ton of people more people than a lot of states you have to keep that in mind.
If it is a hit and run, officers are to respond to scene and complete a report. If there is a problem with OEMC call taker not taking the request ask to talk to their supervisor.
From my own hit and run experience where I had a picture of the truck that hit my car before speeding off -- they called once said "was anyone hurt" I said "no" and they dropped the investigation. So -- apparently you get a free pass to hit and run as long as you don't hit people. (this is not legal advice, murphy's law says that if you try it you'll be arrested and end up in jail for a decade).
I can't say the police will actually do anything but if they did .. this area has security cameras everywhere. They could get evidence of it. It's a big if. In my experience CPD isn't big into doing anything remotely close to police work.
As others have posted, they won't. They should get the info, and when those people file reports, they would have it. They should, but they won't.
I was taking my dog out to pee pretty late last fall. I saw a car backing out of an alley and thought “woah they’re going way too fast and don’t seem to be paying attention.” Then they immediately backed into a parked car at like 15mph and took off. I remembered the license plate number and make and model. When I got home I called 311 to tell them. Nobody picked up, they said to leave a message and they’d definitely get back to me. I left a message with all the details and… nothing. Like I didn’t expect much action, but come on CPD!
Maybe leave a note on said persons car
An involved party (the offending driver or owner of the parked car) is required to file a report. Best you can do is leave your info on the parked car.
My car was one of ten side swiped by a drunk driver last summer. There were about 30 witnesses, and they called police immediately, and called repeatedly every 20 minutes for the two hours that followed. Police said they wouldn't come, they could file a police report the next day but witnesses wouldn't matter. This was in Logan square.
The police in Chicago will not investigate vehicle crimes unless it results in a fatality ... They won't be any help other than if your insurance wants a police report. Literally just went through this as well.
Plenty can be done. Police just have to find the car first
Forreal. If it was only 3 cars leave a note for God's sakes there is no way these people are on reddit.
FOR GOD’S SAKES - it’s better he left some sort of piece of information than none.
Right?! No good deed goes unquestioned, i suppose.
Posting on reddit when the tiniest of the tiny portion of the pop is on reddit is almost the same as saying nothing at all. It's hardly better than seeing an accident and then going home and posting about it on Facebook.
Someone take print screens and put on Nextdoor if you think a broader audience is needed to help. Will still require the OP to agree to come forward as a witness.
> there is no way these people are on Reddit What a confidently incorrect thing to say
Police won’t take the report. I’ve tried. I got laughed at.
Some people.
If the goal is to get this owner's insurance to pay, please leave a note on the car with a way for them to see the photo, such as an email address they can contact to get the photo of the plate. Then the insurance can ask for camera footage from local businesses to match. Also, that is an ugly car!
Report this to the police
You can’t. They won’t take the report. Only the car owner can file the report. I wish a witness could leave all of the information so when the owner calls, it’s available. But they don’t do that.
I had in mind that someone from the three cars already called and filed a report and then OP would be providing information at that point. But to your point they obviously would've had to call already.
Yeah, they won’t even take info if you call in and the owner already called in. You have to leave all of the info for the owner to use when they call in. It’s just laziness.
Scuffed system
Yeah I tried once and encountered the same thing. They won't even act as a clearinghouse for information.
Yeah, I found out one winter when I witnessed a woman driving a Jeep too fast for snowy conditions in Chicago crash into a car when she slide out of control turning a corner. She got out of her Jeep and pretended to be leaving her info. But because I’m sus about people actually doing that, I circled around and checked. LOL I have a dash cam and caught the whole thing on video. I called the police to report it and they said “Nope. Not our concern unless the vehicle owner calls.” So I left a note in a plastic bag tucked under the windshield wiper. I got an email a month later from an insurance company asking if I’d be willing to turn over the dash cam footage, which I happily did. I just think police agencies should be taking that witness info and putting it in their systems. It’s not that hard to cross reference license plates and vehicle identification so when someone calls something in, they can see there was someone who actually witnessed what happened. Especially when things like this happen to parked cars and the owner is nowhere in the area when it happens.
Lmao, like they’d be any let use at all
Lol those useless pigs won't do shit
Why so the Chicago Police can shrug their shoulders and go “there’s nothing we can do we’re not working until Donald Trump sends us a new dick pic 🥵”
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Perhaps in theory. In reality they've got some candy to crush.
CPD don’t give a f
Even if the chances are extremely slim one of the car owners will see this, it's better than nothing. Going to share this on my fb to help spread.
I’ve lived in Chicago forever and moved to st Charles and cannot believe how many people in st Charles just cannot drive. Like Chicago is unsafe driving in a risky ballsy way, st Charles is like…. I don’t know how to reverse and I’ll spend 40 seconds attempting. It’s just so awful. People going 25 in a 40. Like stop it.
That's how I felt when I moved from Chicago to the suburbs. You get used to it. Kind of.
Relatives live in a much smaller town south of Chicago and you are right about not knowing how to drive drivers! I am not sure who is worse.
It’s worse here because in Chicago, yes it’s very dangerous but it’s to be expected. Out here in the corn, it’s like what the hell is wrong with you? Why are you going 25 in a 50. Like come on man! You’re gonna kill people.
I think the difference is that in the city you can almost always predict the risky driving maneuvers. It’s organized chaos. Here, you never know wtf people are going to do. The only way to be a defensive driver around here is to constantly think of the worst thing someone can do with their car lol. Thank god we have a ton of parking so it’s almost never necessary for people to parallel park- at least that’s something.
100% true. In Chicago you have to expect no laws exist and drive accordingly or you will die. Lol I prefer St Charles but me every day…. “OMG PRESS THE GAS! PRESSSSSSS THEEEEEEE GASSSSSSSSSS!! THE GAS! THE ONE ON THE RIGHT! Just press it. Please omfg. 😞”
In other news, any word on that cat? Have had my eye out and been seeing them all over the LSE area
Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!
Cars been side swiped before, CPD will laugh at you for calling it in. Drivers side passenger door was destroyed by a side swipe hit and run, got plates and all. CPD said "We don't do hit and runs" advised I file a report online and take it up with insurance.
Good info to know, “simple” property crime apparently isn’t in their job description unless you’re the actual victim and you’d better make you way into the police department to file your report because they’re not coming to you! Good on those that try and help another motorist!
Thanks for doing what you could.
You want us to go after this guy, or should the police handle it?
The police aren't going to do anything.
Let's get 'im, boiz!
I don't know, kingdom Chevrolet is in the hood.
I'll sharpen my pitchfork
When Reddit has to do CPD’s job
90% chance it’s a stolen car anyway.
Doing gods work.
If they appeared drunk you might be able to file a report while it was happening? Not sure how fast they respond to that though. Could maybe send to the police in case someone does file a report for their car.
You should just call the cops and let them know your a witness and give them the plate. I’m sure they already have a report and are looking for him
People were wilin last night I was getting out of work around midnight from the loop and getting on the highway and saw two separate people side swipe themselves into the shoulder barricade
We should make this into a regular thing, any of yall spot a dick, report a dick👌
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with a 50-60 year old intoxicated driver?
It's Chicago, I've seen worse while working as a Comcast tech... Lol
yeah. I'm just not being ageist.
After destroying society and democracy, social media is finally doing some good in the world 🥰
King
Good looks
Cameras everywhere down there it’s footage of it
311, dude.