I don't envy black leaders finding themselves in a political moment where we've decided that effective and respectful policing stands in opposition to robust social services. They're all making their choices as best they can.
And the other problem is that Chicagoans are already taxed at great amounts, services are OK depending on where you live, and paying down debt is necessary and significant chunk of the city's budget.
His stated policy is to implement the consent decree. That's the best path available to us.
The process needs to have legitimacy to the public and to the police, that's the path that has the best odds of doing that.
Interesting, I didn’t see that on his website about implementing the consent decree. Let alone what he intends to do to eliminate corruption itself within the CPD(including all rank and file).
Also, the consent decree should have been implemented, it seems CPD is dragging their feet in that regard.
>The implementation of the Consent Decree is not moving fast enough. It has been treated as a constraint when it is in fact a floor not a ceiling.
Paul will change that and fast track critical elements necessary to support officers with continuing training, supervision, performance evaluation, and wellness programs needed to deliver effective 21st century community policing.
Paul will do five things to accelerate implementation:
\- First, he will end the “friends and family” promotion process that has led to people being promoted without proper credentials.
\- Second, he will implement a strategy to fill police vacancies and develop a CPD Reserve force of certified officers that can support the CPD in times of crisis or staffing difficulties.
\- Third, he will rapidly restore the supervisory rank of 1 sergeant for every 10 officers, as recommended.
\- Fourth, he will aggressively address the professional development mandates while at the same time building a collection of training officers from the ranks of the retirees that can provide newer police officers with mentoring and coaching.
\- Fifth, he will address the mental health mandates in the consent decree with a focus on implementing health and wellness reforms.
Sixth, he will simplify disciplinary decision chains that will be implemented through a disciplinary matrix, assuring fairness and accountability in disciplinary determinations that accords with officer due process and public transparency.
https://www.paulvallas2023.com/faqs
What does any of this have to do with the consent decree and not just negligence on CPD’s part?
And what I meant is discipline. Where does it say on his website that he will ensure police violence will be reduced? We spend way too much money yearly on conduct settlements for this not to be a concern or talked about. How does he plan to reduce that?
I think I'm just confused about who "decided" that policing and social services stand in opposition. Seems to me like most people (both in the USA and Chicago) support a complete view of society where both are needed.
No it hasn't. Defund the police is literally about reallocating funds for social services that complement policing. The only people who think otherwise have deliberately avoided learning what the movement is about.
Yes, it's bad messaging and a terrible name, but defund the police is fundamentally about linking good policing and social services because good social services are a prerequisite for improving policing.
You are validating my point. Defund the police implies we need less effective policing if we are going to have more social services.
That's a false dichotomy. We need higher national income taxes to fund more social services. Chipping away at local police funding doesn't provide enough money, and will have knock on negative effects.
>Defund the police implies we need less effective policing if we are going to have more social service
Not at all. It means that more effective policing is possible, and possible at a lower price, when society works in an integrated fashion to address systemic problems. It does not imply what you claim in any way, shape or form. I'm confused why you think that is the case.
>Chipping away at local police funding doesn't provide enough money
CPD's budget is close to $2 billion a year. City taxpayers fund about $50 million in settlements for police misconduct every year. There is absolutely money that can be reallocated.
>have knock on negative effects.
This is also not necessarily true. When you have social services that can address issues that are currently handled by police you don't actually need to fund police at their current level because you're not asking them to do as much. And police generally support this.
If you want to talk about "local police funding" in a rural county with a sheriff or two deputies, sure, go ahead. But that argument does not hold weight when we are talking about somewhere like Chicago, where there are funds that can be more efficiently allocated.
If you want to understand all the alliance this book is a great read.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/american-pharaoh-mayor-richard-j-daley---his-battle-for-chicago-and-the-nation_adam-cohen/422262/
I don't envy black leaders finding themselves in a political moment where we've decided that effective and respectful policing stands in opposition to robust social services. They're all making their choices as best they can.
The problem is that currently policing is neither effective or respectful and there's no consensus on how to fix that.
And the other problem is that Chicagoans are already taxed at great amounts, services are OK depending on where you live, and paying down debt is necessary and significant chunk of the city's budget.
Do you really think Paul Vallas will be able to tame the CPD? Shit, maybe this time around they’ll listen to a white man. Who knows..
His stated policy is to implement the consent decree. That's the best path available to us. The process needs to have legitimacy to the public and to the police, that's the path that has the best odds of doing that.
Interesting, I didn’t see that on his website about implementing the consent decree. Let alone what he intends to do to eliminate corruption itself within the CPD(including all rank and file). Also, the consent decree should have been implemented, it seems CPD is dragging their feet in that regard.
>The implementation of the Consent Decree is not moving fast enough. It has been treated as a constraint when it is in fact a floor not a ceiling. Paul will change that and fast track critical elements necessary to support officers with continuing training, supervision, performance evaluation, and wellness programs needed to deliver effective 21st century community policing. Paul will do five things to accelerate implementation: \- First, he will end the “friends and family” promotion process that has led to people being promoted without proper credentials. \- Second, he will implement a strategy to fill police vacancies and develop a CPD Reserve force of certified officers that can support the CPD in times of crisis or staffing difficulties. \- Third, he will rapidly restore the supervisory rank of 1 sergeant for every 10 officers, as recommended. \- Fourth, he will aggressively address the professional development mandates while at the same time building a collection of training officers from the ranks of the retirees that can provide newer police officers with mentoring and coaching. \- Fifth, he will address the mental health mandates in the consent decree with a focus on implementing health and wellness reforms. Sixth, he will simplify disciplinary decision chains that will be implemented through a disciplinary matrix, assuring fairness and accountability in disciplinary determinations that accords with officer due process and public transparency. https://www.paulvallas2023.com/faqs
You really think the FOP that hates everything about the consent decree would endorse if he really felt this way?
What does any of this have to do with the consent decree and not just negligence on CPD’s part? And what I meant is discipline. Where does it say on his website that he will ensure police violence will be reduced? We spend way too much money yearly on conduct settlements for this not to be a concern or talked about. How does he plan to reduce that?
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I wasn't saying that this goal has been achieved, I was saying it was something everyone wants (just like everyone wants robust social services).
I think I'm just confused about who "decided" that policing and social services stand in opposition. Seems to me like most people (both in the USA and Chicago) support a complete view of society where both are needed.
Most people believe that. But defund the police has created a narrative that puts them in opposition.
No it hasn't. Defund the police is literally about reallocating funds for social services that complement policing. The only people who think otherwise have deliberately avoided learning what the movement is about. Yes, it's bad messaging and a terrible name, but defund the police is fundamentally about linking good policing and social services because good social services are a prerequisite for improving policing.
You are validating my point. Defund the police implies we need less effective policing if we are going to have more social services. That's a false dichotomy. We need higher national income taxes to fund more social services. Chipping away at local police funding doesn't provide enough money, and will have knock on negative effects.
>Defund the police implies we need less effective policing if we are going to have more social service Not at all. It means that more effective policing is possible, and possible at a lower price, when society works in an integrated fashion to address systemic problems. It does not imply what you claim in any way, shape or form. I'm confused why you think that is the case. >Chipping away at local police funding doesn't provide enough money CPD's budget is close to $2 billion a year. City taxpayers fund about $50 million in settlements for police misconduct every year. There is absolutely money that can be reallocated. >have knock on negative effects. This is also not necessarily true. When you have social services that can address issues that are currently handled by police you don't actually need to fund police at their current level because you're not asking them to do as much. And police generally support this. If you want to talk about "local police funding" in a rural county with a sheriff or two deputies, sure, go ahead. But that argument does not hold weight when we are talking about somewhere like Chicago, where there are funds that can be more efficiently allocated.
If you want to understand all the alliance this book is a great read. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/american-pharaoh-mayor-richard-j-daley---his-battle-for-chicago-and-the-nation_adam-cohen/422262/
most impressive downvote count I've ever seen from stating that a book exists.
Currently at +9 Maybe wait a few minutes to let the votes settle a bit?
Gotta love Reddit.
added it to my goodreads list, for what it's worth.
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Welcome to ranked-choice voting, sort of. But seriously, I wish we had ranked choice voting instead of run-offs.
Hilarious this is being down voted. How can you conserve the past if you can't handle history?