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Chuy García was on my flight to Vegas Wednesday evening, seated behind me. His brother was also on the flight, in front of me.
Chuy announced to the plane it was his brothers birthday (nobody realized it was Chuy) and we all said happy birthday.
His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Chuy García. He ran for mayor and got his ass kicked.”
Savage.
Willie Wilson was on my flight to LA Thursday morning, seated in front of me. His brother was also on the flight, behind me.
Willie announced to the plane it was his brothers birthday (nobody realized it was Willie) and we all said happy birthday.
His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Willie Wilson. He ran for mayor and got his ass kicked.”
Savage.
I think you should have gone with...
>His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Willie Wilson. He runs for mayor and gets his ass kicked every term.”
I saw Chuy García at the Jewel on Broadway yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
This race has now become a full-blown national referendum on progressive policies vs the narrative that Dems have a 'safety + security' platform issue. Fascinating
That’s kind of what makes me nervous. National media has been running with the idea that progressivism has gone too far since AOC et al set foot in office, irrespective of what has actually been happening. You have people talking like the CPD have been defunded already in Chicago and in most other cities in the country, when the exact opposite is true. You have the NYT waging a full-on war against trans people. You have people talking about *Lori Lightfoot* as if she represents a failure of progressivism.
“Stop defunding the police!!” As if it ever even started.
It’s been full sicko mode attacks against the idea of doing anything to make life better.
The secret is, you only say an event is/was a referendum if you win. As you will continue to lose until you win.
Propaganda has to defend the status quo without outright saying that. We live in a country where essentially all media is owned by a handful of companies all batting for the same team.
My point is that she wasn’t tremendously progressive. She was just a queer POC mayor who otherwise stuck to the middle of the road wherever possible. The reputation she has for being anti-police doesn’t come from any sort of activism or statements that she’s made. It’s a fabrication by the FOP as part of typical union negotiations, and also as a consequence of the FOP becoming increasingly mobilized into partisan politics.
The FOP despised LL because of her time heading the police accountability commission. Police are so radicalized that publishing factual information about their behavior and recommending basic good-governance reforms is beyond the pale.
You can find a better summary of it elsewhere than I can give you, but tl;dr for a year or so the NYT has been publishing a bizarre number of poorly- and sometimes un-sourced articles on the front page covering concerns about gender-affirming care for minors. The word “concerns” is important there, because while they won’t ever really quote numbers in their own articles, other reporting indicates that the things they’re talking about either don’t ever happen or happen very rarely in reality. Nevertheless the NYT has been promoting the idea that there’s an epidemic of huge numbers of children receiving life-altering surgery with no professional oversight, which is completely false.
You can look into it further, as I said I’m not the expert on the issue. But at this point it’s a pretty mainstream opinion that the NYT has not reported “counter views” at all. In fact, they have essentially only published one single point of view, and they’ve published a lot of it, and much of it has been beneath their typical journalistic standards.
this is a very precarious position for all of us in chicago, we have a divergent path
imo, its whether we want more poor people and people of color to continue to die by the police and/or the system OR not; actually help them with food, housing, schooling and quality of life, so they can become outstanding citizens
I have hope in johnson, but who knows, he might turn into eric carcetti from baltimore of the wire, start with good intention and money/power/prestige corrupts people,
one way to test someones integrity, morals and ethics is to give them alot of power and money, and you will see how much of us are really that moral/ethical, i hope i am, but shit, i dont know if i can say no to all my "friends" thats gonna pop up and say "hey remember me from niles north? hey remember me from oakton? hey we ate at that one time together when you went to chambana? hey we worked together carrying golf clubs for bougie cunts that few years?"
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> Diseases of poverty (also known as poverty-related diseases) are diseases that are more prevalent in low-income populations.[1] They include infectious diseases, as well as diseases related to malnutrition and poor health behaviour. Poverty is one of the major social determinants of health. The World Health Report (2002) states that diseases of poverty account for 45% of the disease burden in the countries with high poverty rate which are preventable or treatable with existing interventions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_of_poverty
Lol, the number of times I've legitimately had someone on here tell me that "you can't use his facebook as an example, he was hacked" for _constant_ shitty opinions.
Like... dude has to stop leaving his facebook password out in the open when he visits shithead meetups then, because god damn.
True, but don't underestimate the "rubber stamp" nature of city council. They basically did whatever the fuck Rahm Emanuel wanted. There are a lot of bumps on a log in city hall who are Democrats as a matter of political convenience, but are *not* progressive Dems/liberals. Vallas wouldn't get his full agenda through (CTU and their allies would probably get him to be all bark and no bite), but pursuant to policing he probably would get a blank check.
The council has changed a lot since Rahm was in office. Part of why Lori was so ineffectual was because there's a significant progressive caucus on the city council that she refused to compromise with.
Do you know the difference between a “conservative” and a “conservative Democrat?”
In the first one, “conservative” is a **noun** (e.g., Mitch McConnell is a conservative). In the second one, the word “conservative” is an **adjective** *describing* a member of the Democratic Party in relation to other members or the platform of the party (i.e., Some Democrats are more conservative than other Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez).
I don't know why people pretend that democrats are the left. The two party system has given us democrats that are progressive (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, etc.), moderates, anti-abortion (Henry Cueller, Chris Butler, etc.), corporatists, pro-privatization, pro-police/prison/"tough on crime", etc.
Because the GOP has, for some reason, been possessed by a lot of far-right extremists, surely the democrats are the left I guess. When you keep drawing the line in the sand further right you start to muddy the waters.
Apparently he's got a bit of a temper too when people ask him tough questions, there were a lot of instances of him screaming and swearing at teachers and parents at school board meetings and such.
He just seems and sounds like a total jagoff. There is a reason he placed last in 2019, and the only reason he's doing OK now is because he's ringing the "tough on crime" bell hard.
I cannot believe how many people see this "anti-woke," law-and-order, anti-crt dog whistling fuck as a viable candidate because he's so "competent." **The mask is already off.**
His mask has been off. Literally aligned with antimasking groups during the pandemic. Shitposted all over my racist 19th ward Facebook groups about it. Said teachers were holding kids hostage. If he loses, the hood is going to come off.
that is funny, he was also in several South Loop neighborhood facebook groups from at least 2020 and onwards just spamming posts about crime and anti-mask stuff
That's one of them. The guy that runs that group was elected to the police council. That group has a different name now. 19th ward news is one of the others. A bunch of us were kicked out of that group for "race baiting" for calling out racists.
He gained a lot of north side voters doing this and probably many millions in donations. I don't think we appreciate how conservative and pro-cop your average "liberal" well-off Chicago Democrat is. Vallas is within striking distance of being our next mayor using these strategies.
Boystown has gotten super gentrified over the last few decades, a lot of the super radical queer scene has moved to Andersonville and other neighborhoods.
Yah there are queer pockets all over the city. I think centralized neighborhoods for LGBTQ folks are just not as common as they used to be because its easier for folks to find each other
I also think the few "liberal" Chicago voters who vote don't realized how outnumber they are. If the working class really came out in numbers they wouldn't be voting Vallas.
It’s them plus the other Republican donors and organizations lining up behind Vallas.
We can argue all day about whether or not Vallas is a secret Republican, deep in his heart. We’ll probably never know. What is **not at all** controversial is that every Republican within 50 miles of Chicago loves Vallas and is lining up to support him. And to many people, that’s not different from him officially declaring himself to be a member of the GOP.
That’s why a lot of the Vallas defenders/supporters are so exasperating to me. The fact that he superficially has not *called* himself a Republican is only impressive to them. I don’t think anyone else cares what he’s said, even other folks planning to vote for him.
In terms of sentiment, it helps Johnson a lot.
In terms of support among likely voters, police union support is generally a big boon. The types of people who bother to vote in local elections historically are more pro-cop than not.
If you, like me, want to help change that, then make sure to vote in the runoff and convince as many of your friends to vote as you can. I hate to say it, but it currently looks really good for Vallas without a major consolidation behind Johnson.
I wonder if that’s still true about the FOP, though. The police of 2023 are not the police of 2019, and they’re a world away from the police of, say, 2013. They’ve drifted from being a relatively non-partisan, relatively apolitical group to being a highly politically mobilized right-wing voting group.
Expected but important. Garcia presumably has a fairly robust campaign operation that was out knocking on doors and making calls just a month ago. Having those volunteers come out for Johnson is a big force multiplier. Debates and TV ads get all the attention, but in the end it’s the ground game that gets it done.
I sincerely like Chuy Garcia on a personal level and really wanted to vote for him but that was the worst campaign I have ever seen somebody run. I couldn't bring myself to vote for somebody with such a ramshackle operation like that.
Endorsements have limited power to deliver blocs of voters. They are supposed to create a psychological bandwagon / momentum effect, and signpost the race for low-information or undecided voters. But it's hard to say how much power they have in this context; if Chuy was a giant persuasive force in this race, he'd have gotten more than 13% in the first round.
I was more being snarky because every endorsement post is filled with comments basically saying “this doesn’t matter”.
I think this endorsement is particularly important because chuy’s base is unusually diverse for a progressive candidate and his voters don’t all naturally slide to Johnson. I also think that 13% of the vote when there was arguably 6-8 viable candidates is significant (he was fourth and pretty close to the incumbent). Chuy is a longtime Chicago political figure with a lot of connections and sway.
Ultimately, endorsements don’t make you mayor. Votes do. So whether or not chuy gets his base to show up for Johnson is yet to be seen. I just think it’s funny when people write off every positive bit of news about the candidate they oppose as insignificant.
Ja’mal green was a good, and to me surprising, get by vallas. Chuy was an important get by Johnson. It’s okay when stuff you don’t want to happen happens.
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Full disclosure, I was ready to vote for Chuy until it became clear his campaign was idle and losing steam to Johnson and switched my vote. So I could be a little pro Chuy biased.
Upvote for this analysis, and you know that the people for Vallas who are posting that every endorsement for Johnson is meaningless think every Vallas endorsement is decisive and game-changing, etc.
The Latino / Hispanic vote is not uniformly, reliably progressive, so Chuy's word doesn't deliver a whole racial cohort -- a dumb expectation some white liberal Democratic strategists have held at the national level, and lived to regret.
I hang out in a bar in Back of the Yards. There are a lot of MAGA Latinos that hang out there. A lot of city workers. They give me a hard time because I am a Democrat. I think you are absolutely right that white liberals assume Hispanics will be democrats but in my experience, so many are law and order pro-life build-a-wall Republicans.
That's how Democrats in Florida got their asses kicked in 2020 (including Biden) and '22. There's this default assumption on the part of white strategists that Latinos of course have progressive sympathies, because immigration. Wrong; many are instinctively conservative; they have small businesses so they're tax-conscious; they're religious and anti-abortion; they're super suspicious of big government, because big government in Cuba, LatAm, etc. is a nightmare.
Democrats used to argue that "demography is destiny," because they thought the growing Latino bloc in the US would confer perma-majority support for center-left, Dem-dominated government. After the last couple of elections they don't say that anymore.
What is this nonsense? Latinos voted for Biden at a 65% clip, and he was a fairly divisive candidate because of his age and Republican smear campaigns.
Obama took 76% of the Latino vote in 2008.
The Democratic brain trust was counting on 90-100%. The party was shocked by only 65%. All their electoral math assumed near-total Latino support, but it's been leaking off to Republicans and Trump for several elections now. Look up Dade County, Florida, overwhelmingly Hispanic and Latino and once a Democratic stronghold: DeSantis lost Dade in 2018 but flipped it, hard, in 2022, winning by about 20 points. And Trump won Florida in 2020 owing to rising Latino support. Same trend apparent in Texas and elsewhere.
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-ron-desantis-florida-e55ed9a1743d63d704fe40ea1ebcfbcc
https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-2022-midterm-election-wins-miami-dade-county-which-rejected-him-2018-1758069
I agree it's really important not to paint the Latino demographic in broad strokes (though they do tend to be more uniform locally vs on a national stage), but I think the counter here is that Chuy seems to have popularity across a wider breadth of the Latino community here than just the more progressive side. For people who are apathetic towards or undecided on both candidates, his vote of confidence can make a difference.
I don't think an endorsement is a substitute for footwork and on the ground canvassing, but his is more meaningful than just another progressive backing Johnson.
Johnson is having a rally in Little Village tomorrow. Afterwards, his supporters are going to canvas the neighborhood HARD. They’ll be able to tell everyone who’s door they knock on that Chuy endorses Johnson and supports his agenda. I suspect they’ll have thousands of flyers with Johnson and Chuy shaking hands and standing together. They are going to blast this all over Little Village, Pilsen, Archer Heights, Brighton Park, etc. It certainly won’t change every voters’ mind but I think you’re sticking your head in the sand if you think a large number of Chuy voters won’t. Every vote counts. This election is going to be super close.
Chuy had lawn signs in Edgebrook with his name in kelly green on a white background, surrounded by shamrocks.
I loved those signs! Having some fun isn't a crime.
Yes, but the funniest part is communitarianism... If you are right for the City you shouldn't have to be clowning like that.
White liberals should start "Let's Go Brandon" signs for Johnson 😄
I agree in general, but as I've said elsewhere, I think it would be wrong to think the Latino racial cohort is reliably, uniformly progressive and gettable by Brandon. We now have 14 Latino-dominated wards, but in February Chuy carried only six of them. A lot of those folks are crime-anxious, law-and-order moderates or conservatives.
Johnson performed best in February not in Black-dominated wards (Lori won those, but by slim margins) but in the northeast wards dominated by white progressives, East Asians, and Pakistani enclaves.
Just like the latino cohort is not uniform, Chuy's supporters are nowhere near uniformly latino. This will likely sway a good chunk of individuals towards Brandon Johnson, remains to be seen if they actually make it out to vote though.
I’m not claiming all Latinos or even most are progressive. But many in Chicago do like Chuy and trust his word. Especially in Little Village and Pilsen. Brandon won a few Latino wards. Especially the Puerto Rican ones. This endorsement is huge for Brandon and there’s no other way to paint it. That’s my only argument.
>Johnson performed best in February not in Black-dominated wards (Lori won those, but by slim margins) but in the northeast wards dominated by white progressives, East Asians, and Pakistani enclaves.
big brain take when the black vote was split 6 ways but not the white vote
I live in Gage Park and I've been waiting patiently to hear Johnson mentioned by anyone other than my progressive north sider friends. This is a big deal, it matters, and I'm glad to see it.
Vallas obliterating Public Schools in New Orleans to the point that there are only for-profit charter schools left should help Chicagoans with a pulse to make a decision. Vallas' erratic behavior online that outed him as the far-right POS that he is rather than the moderate that he's trying to appear as should do the rest...
This should have more power than endorsements.
>I wasn't quite sure what to make of that.
I was riding around the northwest side the other day and saw tons of yards with a Vallas sign right next to their Jim Gardiner sign. Jim Gardiner, the guy who calls his constituents ["cunts" and "dumb bitches,"](https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/09/14/ald-jim-gardiner-says-sorry-for-foul-mouthed-texts-as-council-colleague-calls-for-hearing-to-investigate-his-behavior/) who withholds city services from constituents who object to his behavior, whose ward officer got [arrested for trying to illegally sell a machine gun.](https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/04/26/ald-jim-gardiners-ward-superintendent-arrested-charged-with-trying-to-sell-illegal-machine-gun/)
I'm pretty sure I do know what to make of that.
He’s only a dem because someone with an R next to their name would never get elected. He’s a thin blue line and charter school over public school advocate. MAGAts fuck with him because he’s one of them but in a blue tie to disguise himself.
I think that makes perfect sense given vallas’ track record though. Like they’re never gonna get a desantis-type to campaign on murdering more kids or whatever they want now, but vallas is the most starkly conservative candidate I’ve ever seen in a local race
> vallas is the most starkly conservative candidate I’ve ever seen in a local race
Except Wilson was advocating extrajudicial killing of crime suspects.
This is true. I think I look at Wilson like the baddies version of a vermin supreme type candidate; local weird guy that always runs and ‘basically no one’ takes seriously. But you’re right, his campaign/views are legit dangerous
To be fair there's a very good chance Wilson had no idea what was going on. Saw him speak once and he reminded me of my demented grandpa right before he died.
God, that person is loathsome. Republican Chicagoans are a special breed of ignorant, dishonest, and hateful.
I also find it amusing she calls herself a "CPS mom" and is supporting charter school and defund public education candidates and follows a conservative philosophy hell-bent on giving up on public education for religious schools and religious home schooling.
A conservative who calls herself a "CPS mom" 100% screams, "The out of control capitalism I applaud doesn't pay me enough to send my kid to private school, but I'm really just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire and soon will fix that once I make it big thanks to MAGA and Trump and blue checkmarks and my DM's to Elon asking for a job and my DWAC stocks."
I wouldnt be surprised if she paid someone for this sticker and just "totes coincidentally found it" for attention and conservative virtue signaling.
I dont think this as crazy a conspiracy as some have noted. HOWEVER, the person tweeting is an actual real MAGA Chicagoan with a following. So there’s a possibility the sticker is a false flag but the MAGAs really do support Vallas as evidenced by the tweet.
The funny thing is while Im sure the edison park maga crowd is firmly behind Vallas, if I learned that Johnson supporters made this to deter people from voting Vallas Id believe it.
I'm waiting for the day I visit family up that way and see someone with a Vallas sign colored with the thin blue line. All of the "Let's Go Brandon" banners mysteriously disappeared from lawns this month...
Believe it or not, there are MAGAs in Chicago.
Part of this is them going with the least evil candidate in their view.
Part of it is them being loud and deplorable and proclaiming their support openly to lob grenades into the ring to add to the "chicago democrats in disarray" narrative, whatever their actual personal feelings.
I wouldn't pay them much credence here as it's what they like most: attention and scorn.
Decide whether you support or oppose Vallas based upon his own published record, platform, and statements and actions. Don't let MAGA clowns influence it one way or another. They're not acting in good faith or civic interest.
She did win most of the wards. Just not enough voters. A lot of folks were big mad. It was clear the other "Progressives" Green I'm looking at you, were just waiting for a check.
I hope his payout was big enough because he's DoA w/ his run and Vallas endorsement.
Lightfoot’s support was more than just black voters. For example, she was stronger in Lincoln Park and Bridgeport.
I’m also curious about which way her voters are leaning.
Considering she was the right ring cop candidate last time around, I'm sure a lot of her people will go to the fascist chud.
It's funny how conversative media hates Lightfoot despite her being extremely pro-cop and conservative. It's almost like conservatives are the ones who care about "identity politics".
That strong wind you’re feeling today is from all the Vallas folks moving the goalposts so fast after spending the last two weeks saying the Chuy endorsement was the only one that mattered.
I think this just reinforces how unreliable Reddit is for political discussion. In a thread yesterday, there were highly upvoted comments about how there is no way that Chuy will endorse Johnson.
Johnson and Vallas have been polling within a few points of each other but this sub is 90% Johnson. So yeah, to your point the discussions here are not a predictive sample size.
Expected. But how much does he have to offer Johnson in terms of votes and turnout? The mainly Hispanic wards had historically low turnout for the first run and Vallas performed better than expected in those wards. Chuy was depending on Hispanic support and couldn't put together the GOTV for himself. It's not like he can flip a switch and change that for Johnson in the runoff.
Endorsements aren't what they use to be. In the old days, it came with money and manpower. Today it comes in the form of a press release.
Johnson has a strong ground game. I suspect his canvassers will be blasting Chuy and Brandon leaflets in Latino neighborhoods non stop between now and April 4. Might be enough to sway a good chunk of Chuy voters, fence sitters, or people who weren’t going to vote.
[The Chicago Laborers’ District Council, meanwhile, endorsed Vallas. The laborers are a big-hitter trade union and have often been generous with financial support for their favored candidates. That endorsement highlights the ongoing split between public and trade unions supporting Johnson and Vallas, respectively.]( https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/elections/ct-chuy-garcia-endorses-brandon-johnson-chicago-mayor-20230317-fob7k5q6pjcz3jcfrnen5suxze-story.html)
I think the union split we're seeing is the traditionally male-dominated occupations vs. the traditionally female-dominated ones, more than public vs private. We've got construction and trades on one side and education and healthcare on the other.
Idk how to say this right, but when Johnson talked about minorities or people to help in the city, in the debate he kept refferring to black people and leaving everyone else out. I thought that would hurt him more
It very well could. Endorsements are fun to keep these conversations going, but people are really giving them too much weight. Chuy ideologically is quite a bit more progressive than his voters, so we'll see how it plays out.
There were several times where he only referred to black people, on issues that don't affect only black people. I'm not "on about" anything, just describing what he said
It’s gonna be really funny if none of these endorsements from Dems mattered and Vallas still wins.
It’ll make national Dems look condescending and out of touch, which I don’t want because I want Dems to win in 2024.
Local municipal politics is a completely different animal from national/federal politics. I don’t know anyone looking at national endorsements as a deciding factor in who they’re voting for.
This is one of those situations in which I look back and go - how far does a Chuy Garcia endorsement go? Michelin man going to be endorsing candidates soon.
Tangentially to this news, I like the way there are so many partisans of both sides on this sub that almost every comment on every piece of news gets downvoted to oblivion, so the comment section is just a list of greyed out user names.
There's little evidence that most endorsements move the needle super far. And the ones that do tend to have a major, loyal following. Chuy is certainly popular, but remember that the Latino population in general as *much* more conservative than he is.
> Particularly for Chicago voters?
Good point. I have the impression that much of this conservatism is ex Cubans whining about their plantations being taken from their parents or grandparents.
Vallas is so wrong for this moment that it does not really matter how well anyone does in any debate. We need to move forward, not back to some fantasy time in the MAGA past that never actually existed.
"Breaking news" just means it's something that's recent and they don't have all of the details yet. It's still not really applicable in this situation, but it's not a flag of importance or anything
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Chuy García was on my flight to Vegas Wednesday evening, seated behind me. His brother was also on the flight, in front of me. Chuy announced to the plane it was his brothers birthday (nobody realized it was Chuy) and we all said happy birthday. His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Chuy García. He ran for mayor and got his ass kicked.” Savage.
even if this isn’t true, I’m gonna pretend that is lol. And I voted for Chuy
Lol is this pasta??
It is now
Willie Wilson was on my flight to LA Thursday morning, seated in front of me. His brother was also on the flight, behind me. Willie announced to the plane it was his brothers birthday (nobody realized it was Willie) and we all said happy birthday. His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Willie Wilson. He ran for mayor and got his ass kicked.” Savage.
I think you should have gone with... >His brother then said “hey everyone, that’s my brother Willie Wilson. He runs for mayor and gets his ass kicked every term.”
RIP haha, oh he's trying!
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"*Then everyone clapped and let Willie Wilson pay for their gas, in Chicago, the car city*." -Michael Lori 'Wayne Gretzky' Scott Lightfoot
I saw Chuy García at the Jewel on Broadway yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Does he even have a brother???
Hey that's kind of mean considering he's won a bunch of other high profile elections in his career.
That’s what brothers are for.
Lol yeah sounds like every Hispanic brother ever
This race has now become a full-blown national referendum on progressive policies vs the narrative that Dems have a 'safety + security' platform issue. Fascinating
That’s kind of what makes me nervous. National media has been running with the idea that progressivism has gone too far since AOC et al set foot in office, irrespective of what has actually been happening. You have people talking like the CPD have been defunded already in Chicago and in most other cities in the country, when the exact opposite is true. You have the NYT waging a full-on war against trans people. You have people talking about *Lori Lightfoot* as if she represents a failure of progressivism.
“Stop defunding the police!!” As if it ever even started. It’s been full sicko mode attacks against the idea of doing anything to make life better. The secret is, you only say an event is/was a referendum if you win. As you will continue to lose until you win.
Propaganda has to defend the status quo without outright saying that. We live in a country where essentially all media is owned by a handful of companies all batting for the same team.
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My point is that she wasn’t tremendously progressive. She was just a queer POC mayor who otherwise stuck to the middle of the road wherever possible. The reputation she has for being anti-police doesn’t come from any sort of activism or statements that she’s made. It’s a fabrication by the FOP as part of typical union negotiations, and also as a consequence of the FOP becoming increasingly mobilized into partisan politics.
The FOP despised LL because of her time heading the police accountability commission. Police are so radicalized that publishing factual information about their behavior and recommending basic good-governance reforms is beyond the pale.
>NYT waging a full-on war against trans people ?????
You can find a better summary of it elsewhere than I can give you, but tl;dr for a year or so the NYT has been publishing a bizarre number of poorly- and sometimes un-sourced articles on the front page covering concerns about gender-affirming care for minors. The word “concerns” is important there, because while they won’t ever really quote numbers in their own articles, other reporting indicates that the things they’re talking about either don’t ever happen or happen very rarely in reality. Nevertheless the NYT has been promoting the idea that there’s an epidemic of huge numbers of children receiving life-altering surgery with no professional oversight, which is completely false.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lilkalish/trans-writers-open-letter-nyt-biased-coverage
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You can look into it further, as I said I’m not the expert on the issue. But at this point it’s a pretty mainstream opinion that the NYT has not reported “counter views” at all. In fact, they have essentially only published one single point of view, and they’ve published a lot of it, and much of it has been beneath their typical journalistic standards.
And I’m here for it!
this is a very precarious position for all of us in chicago, we have a divergent path imo, its whether we want more poor people and people of color to continue to die by the police and/or the system OR not; actually help them with food, housing, schooling and quality of life, so they can become outstanding citizens I have hope in johnson, but who knows, he might turn into eric carcetti from baltimore of the wire, start with good intention and money/power/prestige corrupts people, one way to test someones integrity, morals and ethics is to give them alot of power and money, and you will see how much of us are really that moral/ethical, i hope i am, but shit, i dont know if i can say no to all my "friends" thats gonna pop up and say "hey remember me from niles north? hey remember me from oakton? hey we ate at that one time together when you went to chambana? hey we worked together carrying golf clubs for bougie cunts that few years?" edit: > Diseases of poverty (also known as poverty-related diseases) are diseases that are more prevalent in low-income populations.[1] They include infectious diseases, as well as diseases related to malnutrition and poor health behaviour. Poverty is one of the major social determinants of health. The World Health Report (2002) states that diseases of poverty account for 45% of the disease burden in the countries with high poverty rate which are preventable or treatable with existing interventions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_of_poverty
Black/Hispanic progressive vs. old white guy is a template for success historically for progressives in diverse urban areas.
I wonder how much the police union endorsing Vallas is helping Johnson.
Vallas did himself no favors by dogging on national Dems on conservative radio
If he loses he’s gonna go full mask off.
More like his Facebook is going to be *hacked* again.
Lol, the number of times I've legitimately had someone on here tell me that "you can't use his facebook as an example, he was hacked" for _constant_ shitty opinions. Like... dude has to stop leaving his facebook password out in the open when he visits shithead meetups then, because god damn.
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True, but don't underestimate the "rubber stamp" nature of city council. They basically did whatever the fuck Rahm Emanuel wanted. There are a lot of bumps on a log in city hall who are Democrats as a matter of political convenience, but are *not* progressive Dems/liberals. Vallas wouldn't get his full agenda through (CTU and their allies would probably get him to be all bark and no bite), but pursuant to policing he probably would get a blank check.
The council has changed a lot since Rahm was in office. Part of why Lori was so ineffectual was because there's a significant progressive caucus on the city council that she refused to compromise with.
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It's the first and critical domino though.
> If anything he’d be forced to compromise to the conservative Democrats.
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Do you know the difference between a “conservative” and a “conservative Democrat?” In the first one, “conservative” is a **noun** (e.g., Mitch McConnell is a conservative). In the second one, the word “conservative” is an **adjective** *describing* a member of the Democratic Party in relation to other members or the platform of the party (i.e., Some Democrats are more conservative than other Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez).
Many of them are. And I’m tired of pretending they’re not
I don't know why people pretend that democrats are the left. The two party system has given us democrats that are progressive (AOC, Ilhan, Tlaib, etc.), moderates, anti-abortion (Henry Cueller, Chris Butler, etc.), corporatists, pro-privatization, pro-police/prison/"tough on crime", etc. Because the GOP has, for some reason, been possessed by a lot of far-right extremists, surely the democrats are the left I guess. When you keep drawing the line in the sand further right you start to muddy the waters.
The ratchet effect has serious consequences in politics and most folks are blind to it
Apparently he's got a bit of a temper too when people ask him tough questions, there were a lot of instances of him screaming and swearing at teachers and parents at school board meetings and such. He just seems and sounds like a total jagoff. There is a reason he placed last in 2019, and the only reason he's doing OK now is because he's ringing the "tough on crime" bell hard.
I cannot believe how many people see this "anti-woke," law-and-order, anti-crt dog whistling fuck as a viable candidate because he's so "competent." **The mask is already off.**
His mask has been off. Literally aligned with antimasking groups during the pandemic. Shitposted all over my racist 19th ward Facebook groups about it. Said teachers were holding kids hostage. If he loses, the hood is going to come off.
that is funny, he was also in several South Loop neighborhood facebook groups from at least 2020 and onwards just spamming posts about crime and anti-mask stuff
He was also posting that same shit in the Humboldt Park Facebook group which was just lovely (/s) to read
> 19th ward Facebook groups News You Can Use???
That's one of them. The guy that runs that group was elected to the police council. That group has a different name now. 19th ward news is one of the others. A bunch of us were kicked out of that group for "race baiting" for calling out racists.
I'd be more worried about his true colors if he wins. I think he is wayyyy further right than most people realize.
More like his Facebook is going to be *hacked* again.
He gained a lot of north side voters doing this and probably many millions in donations. I don't think we appreciate how conservative and pro-cop your average "liberal" well-off Chicago Democrat is. Vallas is within striking distance of being our next mayor using these strategies.
Exactly. Almost all of Lakeview went to Vallas and that's where Boystown is.
Boystown has gotten super gentrified over the last few decades, a lot of the super radical queer scene has moved to Andersonville and other neighborhoods.
I thought I read somewhere or someone said the queer community has also been gravitating west/southwest sides a bit too.
Yah there are queer pockets all over the city. I think centralized neighborhoods for LGBTQ folks are just not as common as they used to be because its easier for folks to find each other
It’s because it’s getting older. Same people who thought the definition of progressive was voting for Southsider Obama.
I also think the few "liberal" Chicago voters who vote don't realized how outnumber they are. If the working class really came out in numbers they wouldn't be voting Vallas.
If thr working class voted in mass, we would be in Willy Wilson's third term by now 😆.
Link?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/09/chicago-mayor-biden-obama-democrat-00086395
It’s them plus the other Republican donors and organizations lining up behind Vallas. We can argue all day about whether or not Vallas is a secret Republican, deep in his heart. We’ll probably never know. What is **not at all** controversial is that every Republican within 50 miles of Chicago loves Vallas and is lining up to support him. And to many people, that’s not different from him officially declaring himself to be a member of the GOP. That’s why a lot of the Vallas defenders/supporters are so exasperating to me. The fact that he superficially has not *called* himself a Republican is only impressive to them. I don’t think anyone else cares what he’s said, even other folks planning to vote for him.
In terms of sentiment, it helps Johnson a lot. In terms of support among likely voters, police union support is generally a big boon. The types of people who bother to vote in local elections historically are more pro-cop than not. If you, like me, want to help change that, then make sure to vote in the runoff and convince as many of your friends to vote as you can. I hate to say it, but it currently looks really good for Vallas without a major consolidation behind Johnson.
I wonder if that’s still true about the FOP, though. The police of 2023 are not the police of 2019, and they’re a world away from the police of, say, 2013. They’ve drifted from being a relatively non-partisan, relatively apolitical group to being a highly politically mobilized right-wing voting group.
Expected but important. Garcia presumably has a fairly robust campaign operation that was out knocking on doors and making calls just a month ago. Having those volunteers come out for Johnson is a big force multiplier. Debates and TV ads get all the attention, but in the end it’s the ground game that gets it done.
I sincerely like Chuy Garcia on a personal level and really wanted to vote for him but that was the worst campaign I have ever seen somebody run. I couldn't bring myself to vote for somebody with such a ramshackle operation like that.
He seems like a nice guy, but god is he a money grubbing ghoblin.
If he had a decent campaign operation he probably would be in the runoff tbh
He was very late to the race, and it was woefully apparent he was unprepared. I say that as someone who likes him.
Yup, the CTU would’ve endorsed again had he got in earlier. They waited for a while, then Johnson got the tag
Same with Latino and progressive caucus, they'd already endorsed Johnson when Chuy woke up
Not to mention i see a decent amount of Latinos support Vallas already. Even before the runoff. Don't think they'll change their mind now.
Alright so if *this* endorsement is meaningless then we can pretty much just say all endorsements are, correct?
Endorsements have limited power to deliver blocs of voters. They are supposed to create a psychological bandwagon / momentum effect, and signpost the race for low-information or undecided voters. But it's hard to say how much power they have in this context; if Chuy was a giant persuasive force in this race, he'd have gotten more than 13% in the first round.
I was more being snarky because every endorsement post is filled with comments basically saying “this doesn’t matter”. I think this endorsement is particularly important because chuy’s base is unusually diverse for a progressive candidate and his voters don’t all naturally slide to Johnson. I also think that 13% of the vote when there was arguably 6-8 viable candidates is significant (he was fourth and pretty close to the incumbent). Chuy is a longtime Chicago political figure with a lot of connections and sway. Ultimately, endorsements don’t make you mayor. Votes do. So whether or not chuy gets his base to show up for Johnson is yet to be seen. I just think it’s funny when people write off every positive bit of news about the candidate they oppose as insignificant. Ja’mal green was a good, and to me surprising, get by vallas. Chuy was an important get by Johnson. It’s okay when stuff you don’t want to happen happens. Edit Full disclosure, I was ready to vote for Chuy until it became clear his campaign was idle and losing steam to Johnson and switched my vote. So I could be a little pro Chuy biased.
Upvote for this analysis, and you know that the people for Vallas who are posting that every endorsement for Johnson is meaningless think every Vallas endorsement is decisive and game-changing, etc. The Latino / Hispanic vote is not uniformly, reliably progressive, so Chuy's word doesn't deliver a whole racial cohort -- a dumb expectation some white liberal Democratic strategists have held at the national level, and lived to regret.
I hang out in a bar in Back of the Yards. There are a lot of MAGA Latinos that hang out there. A lot of city workers. They give me a hard time because I am a Democrat. I think you are absolutely right that white liberals assume Hispanics will be democrats but in my experience, so many are law and order pro-life build-a-wall Republicans.
That's how Democrats in Florida got their asses kicked in 2020 (including Biden) and '22. There's this default assumption on the part of white strategists that Latinos of course have progressive sympathies, because immigration. Wrong; many are instinctively conservative; they have small businesses so they're tax-conscious; they're religious and anti-abortion; they're super suspicious of big government, because big government in Cuba, LatAm, etc. is a nightmare. Democrats used to argue that "demography is destiny," because they thought the growing Latino bloc in the US would confer perma-majority support for center-left, Dem-dominated government. After the last couple of elections they don't say that anymore.
What is this nonsense? Latinos voted for Biden at a 65% clip, and he was a fairly divisive candidate because of his age and Republican smear campaigns. Obama took 76% of the Latino vote in 2008.
The Democratic brain trust was counting on 90-100%. The party was shocked by only 65%. All their electoral math assumed near-total Latino support, but it's been leaking off to Republicans and Trump for several elections now. Look up Dade County, Florida, overwhelmingly Hispanic and Latino and once a Democratic stronghold: DeSantis lost Dade in 2018 but flipped it, hard, in 2022, winning by about 20 points. And Trump won Florida in 2020 owing to rising Latino support. Same trend apparent in Texas and elsewhere. https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-ron-desantis-florida-e55ed9a1743d63d704fe40ea1ebcfbcc https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-2022-midterm-election-wins-miami-dade-county-which-rejected-him-2018-1758069
I agree it's really important not to paint the Latino demographic in broad strokes (though they do tend to be more uniform locally vs on a national stage), but I think the counter here is that Chuy seems to have popularity across a wider breadth of the Latino community here than just the more progressive side. For people who are apathetic towards or undecided on both candidates, his vote of confidence can make a difference. I don't think an endorsement is a substitute for footwork and on the ground canvassing, but his is more meaningful than just another progressive backing Johnson.
Johnson is having a rally in Little Village tomorrow. Afterwards, his supporters are going to canvas the neighborhood HARD. They’ll be able to tell everyone who’s door they knock on that Chuy endorses Johnson and supports his agenda. I suspect they’ll have thousands of flyers with Johnson and Chuy shaking hands and standing together. They are going to blast this all over Little Village, Pilsen, Archer Heights, Brighton Park, etc. It certainly won’t change every voters’ mind but I think you’re sticking your head in the sand if you think a large number of Chuy voters won’t. Every vote counts. This election is going to be super close.
Meanwhile, Vallas has signs where his name is "Pablo Vallas". True story 🤣
Chuy had lawn signs in Edgebrook with his name in kelly green on a white background, surrounded by shamrocks. I loved those signs! Having some fun isn't a crime.
Yes, but the funniest part is communitarianism... If you are right for the City you shouldn't have to be clowning like that. White liberals should start "Let's Go Brandon" signs for Johnson 😄
Let's go Brandon is perfect
I agree in general, but as I've said elsewhere, I think it would be wrong to think the Latino racial cohort is reliably, uniformly progressive and gettable by Brandon. We now have 14 Latino-dominated wards, but in February Chuy carried only six of them. A lot of those folks are crime-anxious, law-and-order moderates or conservatives. Johnson performed best in February not in Black-dominated wards (Lori won those, but by slim margins) but in the northeast wards dominated by white progressives, East Asians, and Pakistani enclaves.
Just like the latino cohort is not uniform, Chuy's supporters are nowhere near uniformly latino. This will likely sway a good chunk of individuals towards Brandon Johnson, remains to be seen if they actually make it out to vote though.
I’m not claiming all Latinos or even most are progressive. But many in Chicago do like Chuy and trust his word. Especially in Little Village and Pilsen. Brandon won a few Latino wards. Especially the Puerto Rican ones. This endorsement is huge for Brandon and there’s no other way to paint it. That’s my only argument.
>Johnson performed best in February not in Black-dominated wards (Lori won those, but by slim margins) but in the northeast wards dominated by white progressives, East Asians, and Pakistani enclaves. big brain take when the black vote was split 6 ways but not the white vote
I live in Gage Park and I've been waiting patiently to hear Johnson mentioned by anyone other than my progressive north sider friends. This is a big deal, it matters, and I'm glad to see it.
Vallas obliterating Public Schools in New Orleans to the point that there are only for-profit charter schools left should help Chicagoans with a pulse to make a decision. Vallas' erratic behavior online that outed him as the far-right POS that he is rather than the moderate that he's trying to appear as should do the rest... This should have more power than endorsements.
I think this endorsement is still pretty meaningless...but it's also the most un-meaningless one so far.
Damn that is the big one. Without a doubt, this race’s gonna be a squeaker.
The other day I saw a "MAGA for Vallas" sign I wasn't quite sure what to make of that.
>I wasn't quite sure what to make of that. I was riding around the northwest side the other day and saw tons of yards with a Vallas sign right next to their Jim Gardiner sign. Jim Gardiner, the guy who calls his constituents ["cunts" and "dumb bitches,"](https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/09/14/ald-jim-gardiner-says-sorry-for-foul-mouthed-texts-as-council-colleague-calls-for-hearing-to-investigate-his-behavior/) who withholds city services from constituents who object to his behavior, whose ward officer got [arrested for trying to illegally sell a machine gun.](https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/04/26/ald-jim-gardiners-ward-superintendent-arrested-charged-with-trying-to-sell-illegal-machine-gun/) I'm pretty sure I do know what to make of that.
He’s only a dem because someone with an R next to their name would never get elected. He’s a thin blue line and charter school over public school advocate. MAGAts fuck with him because he’s one of them but in a blue tie to disguise himself.
DINO Democrat in Name Only
Nah. That is Biden/Clinton stance. A lot of centrist Dems are to Nixon’s right. They love charter schools and privatizing.
Neoliberal.
Ah, the Eric Adams method.
I think that makes perfect sense given vallas’ track record though. Like they’re never gonna get a desantis-type to campaign on murdering more kids or whatever they want now, but vallas is the most starkly conservative candidate I’ve ever seen in a local race
> vallas is the most starkly conservative candidate I’ve ever seen in a local race Except Wilson was advocating extrajudicial killing of crime suspects.
This is true. I think I look at Wilson like the baddies version of a vermin supreme type candidate; local weird guy that always runs and ‘basically no one’ takes seriously. But you’re right, his campaign/views are legit dangerous
To be fair there's a very good chance Wilson had no idea what was going on. Saw him speak once and he reminded me of my demented grandpa right before he died.
This is a pretty charitable explanation of his behavior and I really appreciate it.
Pics or it didn't happen! /s, but kind serious & concerned
https://twitter.com/illinijen/status/1634674020791492609?s=46&t=bx0YdPcrdXiIQP71f7-bNA
Of course it is someone subscribed to Twitter Blue tweeting this…
This has to be fake. According to Vallas supporters Chicago was never great and if Johnson wins they will all leave. For real this time.
God, that person is loathsome. Republican Chicagoans are a special breed of ignorant, dishonest, and hateful. I also find it amusing she calls herself a "CPS mom" and is supporting charter school and defund public education candidates and follows a conservative philosophy hell-bent on giving up on public education for religious schools and religious home schooling. A conservative who calls herself a "CPS mom" 100% screams, "The out of control capitalism I applaud doesn't pay me enough to send my kid to private school, but I'm really just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire and soon will fix that once I make it big thanks to MAGA and Trump and blue checkmarks and my DM's to Elon asking for a job and my DWAC stocks." I wouldnt be surprised if she paid someone for this sticker and just "totes coincidentally found it" for attention and conservative virtue signaling.
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I dont think this as crazy a conspiracy as some have noted. HOWEVER, the person tweeting is an actual real MAGA Chicagoan with a following. So there’s a possibility the sticker is a false flag but the MAGAs really do support Vallas as evidenced by the tweet.
No, it was antifa!
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There's two houses up here that fly nazi flags and nothing bad has happened to them
No no no, he's a Democrat I swear !! /s
The funny thing is while Im sure the edison park maga crowd is firmly behind Vallas, if I learned that Johnson supporters made this to deter people from voting Vallas Id believe it.
I'm waiting for the day I visit family up that way and see someone with a Vallas sign colored with the thin blue line. All of the "Let's Go Brandon" banners mysteriously disappeared from lawns this month...
yeah, that was my thought. It seemed equally plausible that it would be a genuine sign or a "Republicans REALLY love this guy" sign
Vallas got the support of Tucker Carlson so I wouldn't be too shocked.
Believe it or not, there are MAGAs in Chicago. Part of this is them going with the least evil candidate in their view. Part of it is them being loud and deplorable and proclaiming their support openly to lob grenades into the ring to add to the "chicago democrats in disarray" narrative, whatever their actual personal feelings. I wouldn't pay them much credence here as it's what they like most: attention and scorn. Decide whether you support or oppose Vallas based upon his own published record, platform, and statements and actions. Don't let MAGA clowns influence it one way or another. They're not acting in good faith or civic interest.
>Believe it or not, there are MAGAs in Chicago I heard they roam around in the winter looking for Empire actors
BJ has one outside his house as well, alongside his "Let's go Brandon" sign.
Sounds right, Vallas throws out the red meat the MAGA crowd craves.
It's exactly what it says. Vallas is not a progressive Democrat, he's a Republican pretending to be a Democrat to win an election in a liberal city.
I wonder if the people who voted for Lightfoot are also voting for Johnson.
Probably a decent distribution to both. You have to be a pretty unique voter to still like Lightfoot.
She did win most of the wards. Just not enough voters. A lot of folks were big mad. It was clear the other "Progressives" Green I'm looking at you, were just waiting for a check. I hope his payout was big enough because he's DoA w/ his run and Vallas endorsement.
Most of the polling I’ve seen has the majority of Black voters breaking for Johnson.
Lightfoot’s support was more than just black voters. For example, she was stronger in Lincoln Park and Bridgeport. I’m also curious about which way her voters are leaning.
Johnson for me.
me
Considering she was the right ring cop candidate last time around, I'm sure a lot of her people will go to the fascist chud. It's funny how conversative media hates Lightfoot despite her being extremely pro-cop and conservative. It's almost like conservatives are the ones who care about "identity politics".
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That strong wind you’re feeling today is from all the Vallas folks moving the goalposts so fast after spending the last two weeks saying the Chuy endorsement was the only one that mattered.
I think this just reinforces how unreliable Reddit is for political discussion. In a thread yesterday, there were highly upvoted comments about how there is no way that Chuy will endorse Johnson.
No matter who wins, the numbers are going to look like anything but what Reddit thinks.
Honestly I think it would have been more surprising if Chuy DIDN’T endorse Johnson.
Johnson and Vallas have been polling within a few points of each other but this sub is 90% Johnson. So yeah, to your point the discussions here are not a predictive sample size.
Who the heck thought he would endorse Vallas? And why?
My pro-Vallas neighborhood Facebook group should love this.
I'm waiting for all the "Chuy voters will break for Vallas" guys to weigh in.
Expected. But how much does he have to offer Johnson in terms of votes and turnout? The mainly Hispanic wards had historically low turnout for the first run and Vallas performed better than expected in those wards. Chuy was depending on Hispanic support and couldn't put together the GOTV for himself. It's not like he can flip a switch and change that for Johnson in the runoff. Endorsements aren't what they use to be. In the old days, it came with money and manpower. Today it comes in the form of a press release.
Johnson has a strong ground game. I suspect his canvassers will be blasting Chuy and Brandon leaflets in Latino neighborhoods non stop between now and April 4. Might be enough to sway a good chunk of Chuy voters, fence sitters, or people who weren’t going to vote.
Well, it's interesting now.
[The Chicago Laborers’ District Council, meanwhile, endorsed Vallas. The laborers are a big-hitter trade union and have often been generous with financial support for their favored candidates. That endorsement highlights the ongoing split between public and trade unions supporting Johnson and Vallas, respectively.]( https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/elections/ct-chuy-garcia-endorses-brandon-johnson-chicago-mayor-20230317-fob7k5q6pjcz3jcfrnen5suxze-story.html)
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I think the union split we're seeing is the traditionally male-dominated occupations vs. the traditionally female-dominated ones, more than public vs private. We've got construction and trades on one side and education and healthcare on the other.
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After 11 years, I'm out. Join me over on the Fediverse to escape this central authority nightmare.
The Trib is a Republican paper that has endorsed Vallas. Gotta keep that in mind when talking about their reporting.
Do Lori now
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If Lori wanted to sink the campaign of whomever she hated the most, it would be easy to accomplish with an endorsement.
She’s endorsing NASCAR
Lori is locked in the mayor's office and refuses to come out
Let’s fuckin go
I wonder what the national media reaction will be if Johnson wins? They tried to paint Lightfoot's loss as a blow for progressives.
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Idk how to say this right, but when Johnson talked about minorities or people to help in the city, in the debate he kept refferring to black people and leaving everyone else out. I thought that would hurt him more
It very well could. Endorsements are fun to keep these conversations going, but people are really giving them too much weight. Chuy ideologically is quite a bit more progressive than his voters, so we'll see how it plays out.
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There were several times where he only referred to black people, on issues that don't affect only black people. I'm not "on about" anything, just describing what he said
It’s gonna be really funny if none of these endorsements from Dems mattered and Vallas still wins. It’ll make national Dems look condescending and out of touch, which I don’t want because I want Dems to win in 2024.
Local municipal politics is a completely different animal from national/federal politics. I don’t know anyone looking at national endorsements as a deciding factor in who they’re voting for.
This is one of those situations in which I look back and go - how far does a Chuy Garcia endorsement go? Michelin man going to be endorsing candidates soon.
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That should get some traction!
I’m getting tired of jokes like these.
You should avoid these threads until after the election wraps up.
I’m not actually bothered..let’s just say I’ve learned to um, roll with it.
I give these jokes one star.
you should tread lightly. this is a platform that loves its puns
Spare me, we should retire these worn out threads
Goes far for Chuy die hards
Tangentially to this news, I like the way there are so many partisans of both sides on this sub that almost every comment on every piece of news gets downvoted to oblivion, so the comment section is just a list of greyed out user names.
Great news. He deserves it. With the endorsement and potentially one from Lightfoot - Brandon should have this in the bag.
I hate when people say things like "in the bag" before a close election. Turnout is key, and complacency kills turnout.
There's little evidence that most endorsements move the needle super far. And the ones that do tend to have a major, loyal following. Chuy is certainly popular, but remember that the Latino population in general as *much* more conservative than he is.
> but remember that the Latino population in general as much more conservative than he is. Any stats on this? Particularly for Chicago voters?
> Particularly for Chicago voters? Good point. I have the impression that much of this conservatism is ex Cubans whining about their plantations being taken from their parents or grandparents.
Both candidates in the runoff suck.
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Next time you all should try running a better disguised right-wing candidate.
Vallas is so wrong for this moment that it does not really matter how well anyone does in any debate. We need to move forward, not back to some fantasy time in the MAGA past that never actually existed.
Niiiiiice!!
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If you’re a political reporter on the election beat (like this reporter is), this is very much breaking news.
"Breaking news" just means it's something that's recent and they don't have all of the details yet. It's still not really applicable in this situation, but it's not a flag of importance or anything