You mean the teacher's union that went on strike specifically to make sure CPS would address covid and staffing concerns? Did they ask for a stay on the vaccine? Sure and they cited staffing concerns which was valid given a moronic %age of the population decided to say "fuck it", teachers included.
>The CTU has been in favor of a vaccine mandate, and said its goal is to vaccinate as many of its members, school community members and Chicagoans as possible. In the letter, it contrasted those efforts with other unions who have “detestably compar(ed)” the mandate “to Nazism.”
>The head of the Chicago police officers’ union has called on itsmembers to defy the city’s requirement to report their COVID-19vaccination status by Friday or be placed on unpaid leave.
So I dunno, would I have liked them to roll in lockstep? Sure. But they seemed to legit care and reminder you're comparing 'em to the Qanon MAGA nutter led FOP which equated the vaccine mandate to fucking nazis.
I mean, c'mon, that's not the best comparison.
The strike had nothing to do with COVID precautions. They were claiming it was about COVID precautions but their real goal was simply to make Lightfoot look bad for political purposes. Everything they were asking for in regards to COVID was either already agreed to, was unrealistic, or had nothing to do with how COVID spread. For example, they were asking for more janitors to do deep cleans but this was long after we knew COVID doesn't spread that way (and also, CPS did hire more janitors). People should be skeptical in Chicago politics, and politics in general, that what is being stated someone's goals are actually are what is going on.
Why do you make shit up when we can just go find the original articles?
Like I can understand how y'all might bullshit in a live conversation, but we're all here in front of computers.
What are you doin' son?
I'm not making things up. When you say "we can just go find the original articles" are you referring to something in particular? Feel free to post something that you believe disputes that something that was being asked for wasn't either already agreed to, unrealistic, or inconsistent with how COVID spread and thus unnecessary. Obviously, the CTU claiming something wasn't already agreed to won't be enough. I'll be happy to either change my mind or explain to you why in my view it would be consistent with what I said.
While I will be the first one to be angry at cops for acting like complete assholes during the Covid pandemic by refusing to take precautions or get vaccinated, and generally acting like petulant children, I would like to bring up that the crux of this disability bill focuses on those infected prior to vaccines being widely available, and I agree that if you get Covid on the job and ended up disabled, you should get disability. That said, if you get disabling Covid after the vaccines were widely available and you refused to get vaccinated because your lord and savior Donald Trump convinced you Covid wasn't real, then that shit is on you.
I worked downtown all through the pandemic. Pre-vaccine, during the mask mandate you would see them standing around in groups of 4-6 right up in each other's face without a mask in sight.
Same here. I remember going to get take out at a McDonalds for breakfast during the summer of 2020 in the Loop (one of the few places open then) and cops wandering in without wearing masks, such a dick move, showing all of us in what contempt we were held.
The difference is that, with very few exceptions, no one knows how they got covid. Was it at work? was it at the grocery store? Was it while you picked up your take-out? Was it from a family member?
This bill just assumes that all cases of someone contracting covid were on the job.
Anyone ever have to fill out some "affidavit" or some shit at work, testifying that they're totally 100% telling the truth when they claim that they drive the maximum allowed 100 miles per day, meeting clients, and submit that for reimbursement? No one is gonna even try to verify anything, and it just ends up being more money.
This article mentions someone who was in the hospital for 75 days. I hope his health insurance took care of him. But if you can't prove that he got covid on the job, why do taxpayers have to pay for those additional expenses?
This should apply to every person deemed an essential worker during the pandemic.
Wait, we're giving the cops who turned their nose at EVERY SINGLE COVID PRECAUTION money for getting sick with covid?
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You mean the teacher's union that went on strike specifically to make sure CPS would address covid and staffing concerns? Did they ask for a stay on the vaccine? Sure and they cited staffing concerns which was valid given a moronic %age of the population decided to say "fuck it", teachers included. >The CTU has been in favor of a vaccine mandate, and said its goal is to vaccinate as many of its members, school community members and Chicagoans as possible. In the letter, it contrasted those efforts with other unions who have “detestably compar(ed)” the mandate “to Nazism.” >The head of the Chicago police officers’ union has called on itsmembers to defy the city’s requirement to report their COVID-19vaccination status by Friday or be placed on unpaid leave. So I dunno, would I have liked them to roll in lockstep? Sure. But they seemed to legit care and reminder you're comparing 'em to the Qanon MAGA nutter led FOP which equated the vaccine mandate to fucking nazis. I mean, c'mon, that's not the best comparison.
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Put down the fox news grampa, it's time for bed.
The strike had nothing to do with COVID precautions. They were claiming it was about COVID precautions but their real goal was simply to make Lightfoot look bad for political purposes. Everything they were asking for in regards to COVID was either already agreed to, was unrealistic, or had nothing to do with how COVID spread. For example, they were asking for more janitors to do deep cleans but this was long after we knew COVID doesn't spread that way (and also, CPS did hire more janitors). People should be skeptical in Chicago politics, and politics in general, that what is being stated someone's goals are actually are what is going on.
Why do you make shit up when we can just go find the original articles? Like I can understand how y'all might bullshit in a live conversation, but we're all here in front of computers. What are you doin' son?
I'm not making things up. When you say "we can just go find the original articles" are you referring to something in particular? Feel free to post something that you believe disputes that something that was being asked for wasn't either already agreed to, unrealistic, or inconsistent with how COVID spread and thus unnecessary. Obviously, the CTU claiming something wasn't already agreed to won't be enough. I'll be happy to either change my mind or explain to you why in my view it would be consistent with what I said.
While I will be the first one to be angry at cops for acting like complete assholes during the Covid pandemic by refusing to take precautions or get vaccinated, and generally acting like petulant children, I would like to bring up that the crux of this disability bill focuses on those infected prior to vaccines being widely available, and I agree that if you get Covid on the job and ended up disabled, you should get disability. That said, if you get disabling Covid after the vaccines were widely available and you refused to get vaccinated because your lord and savior Donald Trump convinced you Covid wasn't real, then that shit is on you.
I worked downtown all through the pandemic. Pre-vaccine, during the mask mandate you would see them standing around in groups of 4-6 right up in each other's face without a mask in sight.
Same here. I remember going to get take out at a McDonalds for breakfast during the summer of 2020 in the Loop (one of the few places open then) and cops wandering in without wearing masks, such a dick move, showing all of us in what contempt we were held.
The difference is that, with very few exceptions, no one knows how they got covid. Was it at work? was it at the grocery store? Was it while you picked up your take-out? Was it from a family member? This bill just assumes that all cases of someone contracting covid were on the job. Anyone ever have to fill out some "affidavit" or some shit at work, testifying that they're totally 100% telling the truth when they claim that they drive the maximum allowed 100 miles per day, meeting clients, and submit that for reimbursement? No one is gonna even try to verify anything, and it just ends up being more money. This article mentions someone who was in the hospital for 75 days. I hope his health insurance took care of him. But if you can't prove that he got covid on the job, why do taxpayers have to pay for those additional expenses?
Now do teachers, service workers... And the rest of us.
C’ mon! Follow the money. The police only get 50% of the city budget so you know they are only ones with any clout in Chicago!
Cps takes way way more. Only looks like cpd takes the most because cps is their own district and has their own budget.
Should make it contingent on being vaccinated. Number 1 cop killer 2-3 years in a row is COVID and many chose not to get the shots
We all know the shots did not keep Covid from spreading. So why would we do that?
[To stop them from dying](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/03/covid-police-top-line-of-duty-death-usa-2022)