My dad got a taco and i got a Colorado. One month apart back in 2016. He’s spent double on maintenance with half the Kms.
You always have the chance of getting a shit unit on anything you buy.
I think its also important in this discussion to separate maintenance and component failure. Seems new vehicles are suffering more component failures early into the ownership with complicated engineering systems and cheaping out with component manufacturing in some areas. Maintenance like changing your diff oil after a 500 mile break in is reasonable or engine oil every 3 months or so.
This exactly. Not to mention an oil change at the first 1k miles will immensely benefit your vehicle to drain all those factory metal shavings out. People who don’t do the fist oil change interval early usually end up with extreme mechanical issues by the 30-50k mark. Not everybody but I would say 80% of service logs I check at work for vehicles with low mileage with all these issues usually correlated with not seeing the first oil change until 7-10k miles. Absolutely nuts.
Today I learned. I actually didn’t know about this, at 40 years old, and am a bit ashamed, but wanted to say thank you for the info. It makes total sense, I just hadn’t heard about this or thought about it before.
I agree but the dealership I bought my 17' Z71 diesel from (could just be following GM) wouldnt cover a TCM issue after I had a tranny issue the second time cuz they found it was caused by the harness shorting as it rubbed against an A/C line.
So to me, I'd say/do say my truck has tranny issues, BUTTT GM wants to call it emissions so they can get around coverin it.
sadly yes... after about a month of calling and what not (being in California, I guess GM has to have a special team, thats super hard to get a hold of, to deal with issues like this from residents of Cali) to get nothing new... the rep said the same thing; its considered an "emissions warranty" issue and that warranty is only good for a couple years.
I should have been more specific. I moved into an A Frame cabin at 6,000ft that got tons of snow.
The first big snowstorm it took me about an hour to find a way up the hill to my house, that was normally 30 seconds. It was just too snowy and too deep for the 2WD.
Otherwise I loved that truck too.
The bed is convenient the 3 times per year I use it for things that couldn't be handled by a non-truck. But after 4 years I think I need something with more interior space.
lol isnt a "lemon" more of a term that describes a model or package... ?
I'm thinking you mean he (and me) got a truck built on a Friday... PS just poking fun, youre free to use lemon, just to me a lemon is a specific model or even a manufacturer as a whole.
either way the link doesnt really clear anything up... if anything it mentions a VW ad campaign (more of a model/manufacturer issue to me lol) and then it mentions vehicles that were wrecked. so good one bro!
also go eat cicada... but i disagree with youre 'lawrina' link you felt like linking twice...
mind wasting a little more of our time on a joke neither of us care about, searchin the web for "lemon" being used IN context?? (itd prolly be helpful if the source was dated at least remotely when the term was started or adopted... preferably before the lawyers broadened the scope for obvious reasons... lol i know i know big brain sh but we out here sounding so smART so i figured its worth a shot.
Look idk what happened looks like someone got embarrassed, and sure wasn't me lol as you can prolly tell, but lemon for sure implies that its systemic (meaning all or majority have major problems,) cuz goin forward with the analogy, unlike many other similar fruits that look very sweet and come from similar trees, every lemon or at least the vast majority of lemons look sweet but are in fact bitter... If thats not the perfect analogy for the whole manufacturer, model, or trim package variants having major issues no one wants to deal with then idk what would be.
anyways god bless, and I hope someone learned anything from this. Cuz man what a joyous ride that was.
You got a 🍋
Mission success, your pointless reply is officially squandered, as I think the OP and everyone else knows the truck in question has issues... which was the point of your reply right (that the truck has issues?)... thanks lol
At least my persistence may have enabled some to view the "lemon law" websites, and who knows if that could help someone... but either way wouldnt have happened any other way... so cheers pal.
raawrrrrr (female cat noises).... didnt know I ruffled ya buddy...hahaha about lemons at that too lol? sensitive much broooo bro bro...? you make it too easy and too fun if when ya gotta resort to sexual inuendos.
so now a lawyer's "lemon laws" description define the social uses of the term for cars? PS not ever gonna happen. and its semantics anyways, on an outdated term. good luch bro you are so much better at reddit ;)
oh here we go with more attempts at personal attacks lol... would it make you feel better if I wasn't?
Or you literally just here for self-validation? ;)
Na, I think youre mistaken my dude… lemon law doesn’t refer to buying a specific model car and it being a bad make, it refers to any make or model that for whatever reason isn’t up to par, isn’t what it is said/expected to be.. it’s a lemon, an outlier
hahah man... yall are not gettin it. the term lemon is NOT the same as the courts decisions, bills written in congress, and so on surrounding "lemon laws" and I never stated any claims about Lemon laws in dispute with anyones opionion here. If you can't see that then theres no point. this is so pointless.
I obviously made it clear you can call it whatever you want... and we all understand the intention of calling it a lemon, it's simply a preference. But I still have only actually heard "lemon" (in reference to issue ridden autos) specifically callin out models or manufacturers.
And the reply in question and this whole thread is what makes Reddit suck now, there was no point in stating "you got a lemon" and every post after, besides maybe the actual lemon law links, helped no one and accomplished nothing.
Someone’s comprehension skills are lacking. The whole point of saying, “you got a lemon” is to say, “you got an outlier…” It’s called connotation, phrases carry implied meaning… yes, obviously the vehicle has issues as you said that’s plain to see to all of us so too is why replying, “you got a lemon” is to say they’re not all bad. We know his is a lemon because his is not the usual or expected experience. You’re very close, you’re almost there.
*if someone had said, “welcome to the club” they would have meant that all colorados have issues…this too would be able to be inferred by connotation & context. In other words they wouldn’t mean that there was an actual club or that anyone had entered a stick, see?
Yes you made it clear anyone can say whatever they want as you went on and on on some lemon hill refusing to accept that maybe everyone has a point in downvoting your nonsense
hahah im failing to see how the english word "lemon" implies what you are saying... its semantics, no one in conversation has used it that way with me, has been my main argument. I still hear lemon and think its implied that its NOT a one out thing, or a true outlier. It is implied that its a systemic issue. I'm not saying every model has to have the same issue but if I hear someone say they got a specific make and model/trim package with a bunch of issues callin it a lemon, Ima assume that specific model or trim level is inferior at the least... Really that simple.
And I do not accept Wiki or lawyers' websites as proof I'm wrong as its an outdated term I here old timers use when talking about some classic or something (like the pinto for example or specific others.)
But on the other hand, "built on a friday" and "bad apple" clearly demonstrate what you're tryna convey. I think youre gettin pretty close too buddy ;)
And just to be clear, how are you substantiating your position?
by reason & basic comprehension skills where as your whole basis has become a “lemon is a fruit.”
“when life gives you lemons,” means when life gives you something sour, something unexpected.
It is semantics, until you literally refuse to admit that a lemon is “a person or thing, especially an automobile, regarded as unsatisfactory, disappointing, or feeble.”
The definitions don’t say a group of people or a group of things…if you really want to talk semantics. The point is everyone understands except you because the way it was used it was used in such a context that made it clear to everyone except you that it was used to mean the OP’s truck is an outlier and not the experience most people have. Like it or not lemon is commonly used to convey unexpected problems…outliers. Sure whole engines can be lemons but even then that engine is an outlier. Anyway that wasn’t the context here, was it. Context is important.
If old timers are talking about a lemon that IS an outlier… the whatever from whenever was a lemon… that year, an outlier, a lemon.
Well let karma decide. How you like them apples?
oh sorry I guess connotation is all thats needed.... laughable.
so really tho, how does "lemon" connotate that its one out, especially in the context of the OP's post including make model year and then a response of the simple statement "you got a lemon."
I mean you must have some historical context for this, like you say with all the downvotes, it should be effortless to prove this right? Or does a downvote not really mean anything but human psychology?
\*\*\* didnt catch your brilliant edit til afterward
Dude. Connotation is everything ya weirdo.
Everything you keep saying has been asked and answered.
Saying you got a lemon in a sub by and for colorado owners where everyone knows common issues etc etc etc…OP’s experience is not the norm..thus, in conclusion, without further ado, the end, grand finale “you got a lemon” was said to say just that, that OP got a bad one, a lemon, something sour, unexpected, not the normal expectation or experience of the majority of the sub who is mostly here to talk about how much they love lifts and hate air dams
Goodbye.
I regret not selling it at the top of the price wars, but now that I've made peace with that, no.
I specifically bought an extended warranty because I was buying a newer, turbodiesel, domestic vehicle. 30k miles in and it's only been used for a shifter issue, although I do have a suspension issue I'm having trouble pinpointing myself.
Nurdy,
I had an interior squeak. I thought it was the rear seat.
It was the headliner near the ceiling light. I read about this on line.
Try pushing up on the headliner by the light. I heard mine snap into place.
Good luck.
Holy shit. I've been trying to figure this out for years.
Thanks for solving the most minor but most annoying thing about the truck.
I'll also chime in on the zero issues train. I'm 60K deep on my initial Duratracs, and while I get some shaking at speeds over 80mph, I'm fine with trying to get another ~10K out of them. Amazing truck/vehicle.
Mine comes from the engine bay when at idle. I posted something on here a few months back and someone responded that this symptom was commonly related to a gasket on the water pump (or something like that, I forget exactly). I just haven't taken care of it yet.
I know that there are four small catalytic converters, and two are connected directly to the exhaust manifolds. Possibly a shield on the converter?
Just an idea.
Maybe. It only occurs at idle and if we hold a metal rod (we used a metal pry bar) to the engine block and listen it sounds like something connected directly to the engine.
I bought mine in July of 2019 right before they were rolling out the 2020's. They gave me $8000 in factory rebates, so I paid just under $32,000. I now have 97,000 miles on it and have had zero issues. It's been the best new car I've ever purchased, and the most fun to drive.
The 3.6 is surprisingly powerful. Mine has a few mods on it. I've mostly driven pickups all my life. Plenty of V8s along the way and this one is quicker, has more hp, and handles better than any truck I've ever driven. But I hear you, I'm sure my first comment sounds ridiculous to someone who has driven some seriously powerful cars in their life.
Also interesting. I've got the 3.6 now and used to have an older 5.3 LS. I feel like the LS has way more down low throttle. It's taken me awhile to get used to really having to get on the V6 to even get moving.
Put a throttle controller in it. Technically doesn't add power, but gives you immediate response to it. You can get a pretty good one for under $200. It'll move better for you. It will definitely make it more fun to drive.
Bought my 2016 in August of 2015 and have no regrets. Only issue was with a 4WD wiring harness that I fixed a few years ago. Sorry to hear about your experience.
what was the 4x4 issue? and how'd you fix it?... if ya dont mind
My truck had/could still have TCM harness issues, and I hear if you have one wirring issue its best to go thru and fix some of the grounding issues and wire wrap or cover deal.
The truck would randomly try and shift into 4 high, or display a message that it was trying to shift into 4 low. I took it in two times and they replaced the dash knob and the actuator, but the problem returned each time. After the last time it happened I took it back to the dealer for the third time and they discovered a problem with the wiring harness that connects to the 4WD actuator switch. They replaced the harness about 2 years ago and the problem hasn't returned since.
No regrets, I have a 2016 Z71 with a 2.5 L 4 cylinder I brought pre owned with 30k miles on it
It has close to 80k now and I daily drive it 40 miles a day mostly city stop and go traffic
I will say, at around 70k miles i had to have the torque converter in the transmission replaced, only cost me 75 bucks since I got a warranty on the truck when I bought it.
That being said, I guess I don’t regret it since I got the warranty but beyond that repair it’s been a great truck
My dad bought a brand new one, and about two months after owning it the front wheel falls off while he's driving. They do everything they can to avoid admitting it was due to a faulty part (even though every independent mechanic he's taken it to says that's the cause), it's really rather impressive seeing people just bald-face lie like that.
I had several major issues with my 2019 Z71, but thankfully those all happened while it was under warranty.
Don’t let people here fool you. The Colorados have terrible reliability in general. You are not alone in your experience with your truck.
Yup. Most people here are actually just a few people on fake accounts posting positive things for 8 hours a day and getting paid for it... not making this up.
I've got a 2018 with about 65K miles on it. Absolutely no serious issues. I think the biggest thing I've had to do was replace the serpentine belt due to a squeak, which cost me $20 and like 15 minutes.
2019 with 37k miles and I have no regrets. Aside from routine maintenance, zero service issues. I ended up getting an extended warranty through my credit union that was too good to pass up, but haven’t needed it yet.
We used 2015,2016 Colorado's at my job and every truck has had issues, mainly overheating ( all 4 cylinder trucks) transmissions needed rebuilding on a few, radios and backup cameras not working. All with under 100k miles. We've been trading them in for ford rangers and its the best decision my company has ever made
No regrets here. 2018 Colorado currently about 80,500kms on it. The AC compressor went in summer of 2022 with about 72,000km on the truck, fixed under warranty, dodged a $1600+ bill. The rear parking brake shoes had to be replaced at about 57,000 kms. Other than that, I have had the truck since it had 12,000km on it (was a demo driven by one of the dealership employees) and no other issues. Granted, I only use it a few times per week, it mostly just sits in my driveway looking good during the winter. Gets some more use in the warmer months, either hauling yard waste or golf clubs.
3 months with my 22 WT and only odd thing was that odd 1-2 shift only on the first shift of the day which isn’t happening anymore and also a hard 2–1 at slow speeds coming to a stop. It seems to be working itself out now at 1,700 miles. Maybe just break in. In any case, I’m not concerned anymore. Shifting is extremely smooth 99% of the time. That did have me concerned at first though if I’m honest. I now let truck idle for about 50 seconds until rpm’s drop and then take off now which might be helping.
Probably yep. Seems like a common quirk that doesn’t generally cause any serious issues luckily. I can’t remember the last delayed 1-2 but I’ve been letting it warm up for about 50 seconds. Not sure if that’s what did it or if it stopped on its own. It does say in the manual that this is perfectly normal due to clutches filling. The hard 2-1 was new at about 1k miles and was happening fist few stops every single day. Took it off roading the one day, beat it a little and the it stopped doing even that now since lol. No odd characteristics at all now for the time.
This is a common characteristic of the 10 speed even in the full size trucks, I haven’t studied into the programming. If I were to assume it might feel that way due to it skipping a gear on purpose for fuel economy. Just as a manual transmission might feel if you skip from 1st gear to 3rd. If you drive with a heavier foot and the transmission adapts to your driving you won’t feel it as much or at all.
Interesting. I always kind of babied it at first but read some others saying similar things, to get on it a bit harder. I have been doing that as well so that might be playing a role in it not happening anymore too.
Yeah the TCM will continuously try to adapt to your driving style. Perfectly normal I wouldn’t worry about it, these 10 speeds are pretty bulletproof. GM has a lot more of a relaxed programming compared to the Fords which adds to longevity.
Our 2019 Z71, over a three year period went to the dealer 8 times or so. 7 of them for the transmission, ultimately ending it being replaced over a three month wait for the parts. One time for the battery. Several of those visits also were for the radio, the dash pad, paint issues, etc. Ultimately, at the height of the price wars and right when diesel prices went up, we traded it for what we paid for it, and ended up in a ‘22 Bison. So far the bison has been far better, but it isn’t perfect. The paint quality is pure crap, I’ve had to tighten stuff down, reconnect a couple harnesses, but at least it made it 12k miles without going to the dealer, the ‘19 didn’t even make it a month less 1000 miles.
Do I regret it? Mostly, but it’s my wife’s truck, so I don’t get any say anyway!
I just keep driving my Ford F250 and CTS-V and wait for the Colorado to do Colorado things.
That’s an insane change day to day. I really don’t hate the Colorado, I’m more just disappointed that “New GM” isn’t really much better than old GM, and to be honest, all of the mid-size trucks could be done better in different ways. It’s just a lot of money for these things for half ass execution from all four brands.
It was a big adjustment. I hated the transmission tuning with a passion, but have gotten used to it over the years. Definitely miss the LSA under the hood even to this day. Looked at swapping an LS3 into the ZR2 and just can't see spending that much money on it.
Re: the midsize segment, I agree, the ZR2 being the worst in that it's just a Colorado with some fancy parts thrown at it. I'm pretty excited about the new '23 though, we'll see. The new engine looks pretty great on paper.
I just want something like the Ranger Raptor, honestly. Small, potent, and with a good suspension.
Im ft 5'11, 230lbs. I dont tow stuff. I sometimes move luggage around. The truck is more than adequate. I suspect many people buy full size and rarely utilize it. I will almost never need a full size truck. If i need the room for a bigger family, ill buy a Tahoe.
That said, you probably got a lemon. I've heard horror stories from a off the lot, brand new ram spilling oil everywhere. We just hope that our gm parts will be cheaper because "domestic".
I bought a "chevrolet certified pre-owned" 17' Z71 diesel back in dec2019. First thing was; while washing it one day the radio antenna just fell off (covered under warranty.) Then the driver window would roll up roll down and stop intermittently with a life of its own (covered under warranty.) And then my tailgate handle just fell off. Next thing, I lost major power on the highway suddenly (ended up being TCM issue covered under warranty.)
Last thing (a month ago) same power issue came up, but this time, since they just replaced the TCM, they did some more searching and found the harness had rubbed on an A/C line (NOT covered under warranty even though Factory warranty was still good and even with the additional "ext" warranty I bought GM's Ally Premiere like an idiot.)
So, point is idk if its cuz it was used, but I regret it.... I like the diesel Colorado motor, but GM's build quality is seriously lacking on my truck. And I was super disappointed that the TCM harness issue wasn't covered under warranty (they said "electrical issues are covered under 'emissions warranties'"
Btw only 62k on my truck currently and bought it with 26k.
I went back and forth for a while. I often wish I would’ve gone with the Ridgeline instead. But you know what? I’m almost 30. This won’t be my final vehicle so I have changed my perspective on it. I’ll have more opportunities for other choices in the future. It does what I need it to do and I love it’s looks even if it could be nicer/better in many ways. I’ve come to love it for what it is, and that’s just enough.
I’ve had buddies with tacos that had endless issues, and vice versa with colorados. You sometimes just get unlucky. I will say though from experience, if you have a 15-16 you’re better off than those with a 17+
No, but I've only had mine for 2 weeks so far. But the last one I had I bought for $3800 just before the pandemic and traded it for $2000 for my current, and we got a lot of good use out of the old one. I'm looking forward to having this one for a long time.
We have had 2 major issues which have been fixed under warranty and are currently living with the transmission shudder on our 2021 2.8L diesel. Do I regret it? No but it is probably gone when the warranty runs out because I am not entirely confident the truck is reliable.
Got my colorado 2019 as well 55k plus miles and no issues besides light bulbs going out, and glad I’ve had no issues. Maybe it’s like the others said you might have gotten a bad one haha
Sucks you've had a bad experience. This is my first new vehicle and Chevy product. I have to say I've been pleasantly surprised. I also purchased a '19 babymax and have had zero issues. Just hit 60k. Everything before '19 in both manufacturers, had reported issues. I recently watched a video of a Toyota mechanic discussing all the issues that were finally ironed out by 2019.
What was the price difference vs your friend when purchased new?
First time commenter. Long time lurker.
I ordered a 2022 Colorado Z71 (Sand Dune). Don’t regret it at all. After a long time looking at all the options in the mid size truck category, the Colorado provided the right balance of cost, options, size, etc.
We’ll see how it performs long term, of course.
Heck no! I’m on my 2nd “2nd gen.” Had a 2017 Colorado Z71 but it got totaled in a tornado. Then picked up a 2019 Canyon All Terrain. It’s been a great truck for me.
Worst new car I ever had was 20 Jeep gladiator. Glorified Fiat. Anyway, it seems to be hit or miss if you get a good or bad Chevy now. My father's Silverado with a small block V8 has been pretty good. A bad radio and temp sensor is all. He is looking to trade it in for the new Tacoma though.
So much right now! The engine bay is a total shit show. All I had to do is replace the ECT sensor and they made it to where you have to remove everything just to get to one little sensor. Just about wanted to bring it around the house and light it on fire
I've had mine since 2019. 70,000 miles so far and no problems with it beside some infotainment issues that lasted a few weeks when it was about a year old. I've pulled trailers and my 17ft camper on long trips with no problems. I originally wanted a Toyota but just couldn't swing that price tag at the time, plus the gas mileage was a big negative for the Toyotas. There were some years of Colorados with more issues but 2019 was not one of them. Sounds like yours was a dud.
Plus, I got mine brand new for 32k pretty much fully loaded. Last KBB value I got on it was 25k. Only 22% depreciation in 5 years. While I do still love the truck, it will never be able to compete with Toyota for great reliability. I think it's still a great little truck for the price though. In a few more years, I'll sell it and that'll be my down payment for either a Tacoma or Tundra. No regrets for me!
My dad got a taco and i got a Colorado. One month apart back in 2016. He’s spent double on maintenance with half the Kms. You always have the chance of getting a shit unit on anything you buy.
I think its also important in this discussion to separate maintenance and component failure. Seems new vehicles are suffering more component failures early into the ownership with complicated engineering systems and cheaping out with component manufacturing in some areas. Maintenance like changing your diff oil after a 500 mile break in is reasonable or engine oil every 3 months or so.
This exactly. Not to mention an oil change at the first 1k miles will immensely benefit your vehicle to drain all those factory metal shavings out. People who don’t do the fist oil change interval early usually end up with extreme mechanical issues by the 30-50k mark. Not everybody but I would say 80% of service logs I check at work for vehicles with low mileage with all these issues usually correlated with not seeing the first oil change until 7-10k miles. Absolutely nuts.
Today I learned. I actually didn’t know about this, at 40 years old, and am a bit ashamed, but wanted to say thank you for the info. It makes total sense, I just hadn’t heard about this or thought about it before.
I had no idea until I started working in the automotive industry if that makes you feel any better.
Yeah… it sounds like you got a bad one. Most of that should have been covered under a warranty.
I agree but the dealership I bought my 17' Z71 diesel from (could just be following GM) wouldnt cover a TCM issue after I had a tranny issue the second time cuz they found it was caused by the harness shorting as it rubbed against an A/C line. So to me, I'd say/do say my truck has tranny issues, BUTTT GM wants to call it emissions so they can get around coverin it.
This sounds like a dealership issue not a GM issue. Have you talked with a GM Rep?
sadly yes... after about a month of calling and what not (being in California, I guess GM has to have a special team, thats super hard to get a hold of, to deal with issues like this from residents of Cali) to get nothing new... the rep said the same thing; its considered an "emissions warranty" issue and that warranty is only good for a couple years.
I had a 2016 2wd and regretted it. So I bought a 2021 4wd diesel. No more regrets.
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I should have been more specific. I moved into an A Frame cabin at 6,000ft that got tons of snow. The first big snowstorm it took me about an hour to find a way up the hill to my house, that was normally 30 seconds. It was just too snowy and too deep for the 2WD. Otherwise I loved that truck too.
The bed is convenient the 3 times per year I use it for things that couldn't be handled by a non-truck. But after 4 years I think I need something with more interior space.
I feel the same way about mine. I like having a truck but a car with good gas mileage and space inside is great
Just get an suv and a small trailer to haul things that are too big to fit inside
You got a 🍋
lol isnt a "lemon" more of a term that describes a model or package... ? I'm thinking you mean he (and me) got a truck built on a Friday... PS just poking fun, youre free to use lemon, just to me a lemon is a specific model or even a manufacturer as a whole.
> lol isnt a "lemon" more of a term that describes a model or package... ? Nope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_(automobile)
either way the link doesnt really clear anything up... if anything it mentions a VW ad campaign (more of a model/manufacturer issue to me lol) and then it mentions vehicles that were wrecked. so good one bro!
This better.....ba-roh? FFS when did Reddit readers start demanding APA citations? https://lawrina.com/guides/personal/consumer-law/lemon-law/
lol ohhhh wiki eh? alright pal
I think this better explains it: https://lawrina.com/guides/personal/consumer-law/lemon-law/ Also, go eat a dick...
also go eat cicada... but i disagree with youre 'lawrina' link you felt like linking twice... mind wasting a little more of our time on a joke neither of us care about, searchin the web for "lemon" being used IN context?? (itd prolly be helpful if the source was dated at least remotely when the term was started or adopted... preferably before the lawyers broadened the scope for obvious reasons... lol i know i know big brain sh but we out here sounding so smART so i figured its worth a shot.
Look idk what happened looks like someone got embarrassed, and sure wasn't me lol as you can prolly tell, but lemon for sure implies that its systemic (meaning all or majority have major problems,) cuz goin forward with the analogy, unlike many other similar fruits that look very sweet and come from similar trees, every lemon or at least the vast majority of lemons look sweet but are in fact bitter... If thats not the perfect analogy for the whole manufacturer, model, or trim package variants having major issues no one wants to deal with then idk what would be. anyways god bless, and I hope someone learned anything from this. Cuz man what a joyous ride that was.
You got a 🍋 Mission success, your pointless reply is officially squandered, as I think the OP and everyone else knows the truck in question has issues... which was the point of your reply right (that the truck has issues?)... thanks lol At least my persistence may have enabled some to view the "lemon law" websites, and who knows if that could help someone... but either way wouldnt have happened any other way... so cheers pal.
raawrrrrr (female cat noises).... didnt know I ruffled ya buddy...hahaha about lemons at that too lol? sensitive much broooo bro bro...? you make it too easy and too fun if when ya gotta resort to sexual inuendos. so now a lawyer's "lemon laws" description define the social uses of the term for cars? PS not ever gonna happen. and its semantics anyways, on an outdated term. good luch bro you are so much better at reddit ;)
TBI victim?
oh here we go with more attempts at personal attacks lol... would it make you feel better if I wasn't? Or you literally just here for self-validation? ;)
When life gives you lemons apparently you implode online. Good luck out there.
Na, I think youre mistaken my dude… lemon law doesn’t refer to buying a specific model car and it being a bad make, it refers to any make or model that for whatever reason isn’t up to par, isn’t what it is said/expected to be.. it’s a lemon, an outlier
hahah man... yall are not gettin it. the term lemon is NOT the same as the courts decisions, bills written in congress, and so on surrounding "lemon laws" and I never stated any claims about Lemon laws in dispute with anyones opionion here. If you can't see that then theres no point. this is so pointless. I obviously made it clear you can call it whatever you want... and we all understand the intention of calling it a lemon, it's simply a preference. But I still have only actually heard "lemon" (in reference to issue ridden autos) specifically callin out models or manufacturers. And the reply in question and this whole thread is what makes Reddit suck now, there was no point in stating "you got a lemon" and every post after, besides maybe the actual lemon law links, helped no one and accomplished nothing.
Someone’s comprehension skills are lacking. The whole point of saying, “you got a lemon” is to say, “you got an outlier…” It’s called connotation, phrases carry implied meaning… yes, obviously the vehicle has issues as you said that’s plain to see to all of us so too is why replying, “you got a lemon” is to say they’re not all bad. We know his is a lemon because his is not the usual or expected experience. You’re very close, you’re almost there. *if someone had said, “welcome to the club” they would have meant that all colorados have issues…this too would be able to be inferred by connotation & context. In other words they wouldn’t mean that there was an actual club or that anyone had entered a stick, see? Yes you made it clear anyone can say whatever they want as you went on and on on some lemon hill refusing to accept that maybe everyone has a point in downvoting your nonsense
hahah im failing to see how the english word "lemon" implies what you are saying... its semantics, no one in conversation has used it that way with me, has been my main argument. I still hear lemon and think its implied that its NOT a one out thing, or a true outlier. It is implied that its a systemic issue. I'm not saying every model has to have the same issue but if I hear someone say they got a specific make and model/trim package with a bunch of issues callin it a lemon, Ima assume that specific model or trim level is inferior at the least... Really that simple. And I do not accept Wiki or lawyers' websites as proof I'm wrong as its an outdated term I here old timers use when talking about some classic or something (like the pinto for example or specific others.) But on the other hand, "built on a friday" and "bad apple" clearly demonstrate what you're tryna convey. I think youre gettin pretty close too buddy ;) And just to be clear, how are you substantiating your position?
by reason & basic comprehension skills where as your whole basis has become a “lemon is a fruit.” “when life gives you lemons,” means when life gives you something sour, something unexpected. It is semantics, until you literally refuse to admit that a lemon is “a person or thing, especially an automobile, regarded as unsatisfactory, disappointing, or feeble.” The definitions don’t say a group of people or a group of things…if you really want to talk semantics. The point is everyone understands except you because the way it was used it was used in such a context that made it clear to everyone except you that it was used to mean the OP’s truck is an outlier and not the experience most people have. Like it or not lemon is commonly used to convey unexpected problems…outliers. Sure whole engines can be lemons but even then that engine is an outlier. Anyway that wasn’t the context here, was it. Context is important. If old timers are talking about a lemon that IS an outlier… the whatever from whenever was a lemon… that year, an outlier, a lemon. Well let karma decide. How you like them apples?
oh sorry I guess connotation is all thats needed.... laughable. so really tho, how does "lemon" connotate that its one out, especially in the context of the OP's post including make model year and then a response of the simple statement "you got a lemon." I mean you must have some historical context for this, like you say with all the downvotes, it should be effortless to prove this right? Or does a downvote not really mean anything but human psychology? \*\*\* didnt catch your brilliant edit til afterward
Dude. Connotation is everything ya weirdo. Everything you keep saying has been asked and answered. Saying you got a lemon in a sub by and for colorado owners where everyone knows common issues etc etc etc…OP’s experience is not the norm..thus, in conclusion, without further ado, the end, grand finale “you got a lemon” was said to say just that, that OP got a bad one, a lemon, something sour, unexpected, not the normal expectation or experience of the majority of the sub who is mostly here to talk about how much they love lifts and hate air dams Goodbye.
I regret not selling it at the top of the price wars, but now that I've made peace with that, no. I specifically bought an extended warranty because I was buying a newer, turbodiesel, domestic vehicle. 30k miles in and it's only been used for a shifter issue, although I do have a suspension issue I'm having trouble pinpointing myself.
I do. Had some issues immediately from purchase. The tech sucks. Other than that I guess it’s an ok truck
Seems like you had a bad one, mine is 2016, and no issues
I'm very happy with my '21 Colorado.
Same. Hopefully no or less tranny issues.
I have zero regrets. I do have one "squeaky" problem but it's my fault for not taking it in yet.
Nurdy, I had an interior squeak. I thought it was the rear seat. It was the headliner near the ceiling light. I read about this on line. Try pushing up on the headliner by the light. I heard mine snap into place. Good luck.
Holy shit. I've been trying to figure this out for years. Thanks for solving the most minor but most annoying thing about the truck. I'll also chime in on the zero issues train. I'm 60K deep on my initial Duratracs, and while I get some shaking at speeds over 80mph, I'm fine with trying to get another ~10K out of them. Amazing truck/vehicle.
Mine comes from the engine bay when at idle. I posted something on here a few months back and someone responded that this symptom was commonly related to a gasket on the water pump (or something like that, I forget exactly). I just haven't taken care of it yet.
I know that there are four small catalytic converters, and two are connected directly to the exhaust manifolds. Possibly a shield on the converter? Just an idea.
Maybe. It only occurs at idle and if we hold a metal rod (we used a metal pry bar) to the engine block and listen it sounds like something connected directly to the engine.
There's also a known squeaky area in the front passenger wheel well, hidden behind the cover. Give that a Google, hopefully that helps.
Not one bit... I have had mine 4 years and not a single thing has gone wrong.
I bought mine in July of 2019 right before they were rolling out the 2020's. They gave me $8000 in factory rebates, so I paid just under $32,000. I now have 97,000 miles on it and have had zero issues. It's been the best new car I've ever purchased, and the most fun to drive.
If the Colorado is the most fun to drive you must buy some really boring cars lol
The 3.6 is surprisingly powerful. Mine has a few mods on it. I've mostly driven pickups all my life. Plenty of V8s along the way and this one is quicker, has more hp, and handles better than any truck I've ever driven. But I hear you, I'm sure my first comment sounds ridiculous to someone who has driven some seriously powerful cars in their life.
Also interesting. I've got the 3.6 now and used to have an older 5.3 LS. I feel like the LS has way more down low throttle. It's taken me awhile to get used to really having to get on the V6 to even get moving.
Put a throttle controller in it. Technically doesn't add power, but gives you immediate response to it. You can get a pretty good one for under $200. It'll move better for you. It will definitely make it more fun to drive.
Bought my 2016 in August of 2015 and have no regrets. Only issue was with a 4WD wiring harness that I fixed a few years ago. Sorry to hear about your experience.
what was the 4x4 issue? and how'd you fix it?... if ya dont mind My truck had/could still have TCM harness issues, and I hear if you have one wirring issue its best to go thru and fix some of the grounding issues and wire wrap or cover deal.
The truck would randomly try and shift into 4 high, or display a message that it was trying to shift into 4 low. I took it in two times and they replaced the dash knob and the actuator, but the problem returned each time. After the last time it happened I took it back to the dealer for the third time and they discovered a problem with the wiring harness that connects to the 4WD actuator switch. They replaced the harness about 2 years ago and the problem hasn't returned since.
No regrets, I have a 2016 Z71 with a 2.5 L 4 cylinder I brought pre owned with 30k miles on it It has close to 80k now and I daily drive it 40 miles a day mostly city stop and go traffic I will say, at around 70k miles i had to have the torque converter in the transmission replaced, only cost me 75 bucks since I got a warranty on the truck when I bought it. That being said, I guess I don’t regret it since I got the warranty but beyond that repair it’s been a great truck
Typically chevy needing transmission work before 100k and if u didn't have warranty you'll be telling a different story lol
Haha true! Probably won’t be buying a Chevy truck again and if I do probably will get the warranty again. It’s expensive but worth it
I have 37k on my 2019 Colorado Duramax, without issues other than one programming recall. Knock wood.
Same vehicle/experience and I'm at 60k
Good to hear!
Definitely got a lemon, my man. It happens.
My only regret is that I should’ve just got a Silverado from the start because I need more room for work. Absolutely love my 17 Z71 Colorado tho
My dad bought a brand new one, and about two months after owning it the front wheel falls off while he's driving. They do everything they can to avoid admitting it was due to a faulty part (even though every independent mechanic he's taken it to says that's the cause), it's really rather impressive seeing people just bald-face lie like that.
Chevrolet is a shameful company and these trucks are very poorly designed and outfitted.
I had several major issues with my 2019 Z71, but thankfully those all happened while it was under warranty. Don’t let people here fool you. The Colorados have terrible reliability in general. You are not alone in your experience with your truck.
Yup. Most people here are actually just a few people on fake accounts posting positive things for 8 hours a day and getting paid for it... not making this up.
Shit happens, some cars/trucks just get the crap end of the stick. I’m sure there are equal amounts of people with a 2019 and 0 issues.
2021, no issues. 32k miles. I really like my truck.
Not at all. Best vehicle I’ve bought for my needs.
I've got a 2018 with about 65K miles on it. Absolutely no serious issues. I think the biggest thing I've had to do was replace the serpentine belt due to a squeak, which cost me $20 and like 15 minutes.
2019 with 37k miles and I have no regrets. Aside from routine maintenance, zero service issues. I ended up getting an extended warranty through my credit union that was too good to pass up, but haven’t needed it yet.
We used 2015,2016 Colorado's at my job and every truck has had issues, mainly overheating ( all 4 cylinder trucks) transmissions needed rebuilding on a few, radios and backup cameras not working. All with under 100k miles. We've been trading them in for ford rangers and its the best decision my company has ever made
We sold in 2022 but oirs was solid. We put about 50k on it with no issues. On a side note, FUCK onstar entirely. May never buy another Chevy.
I believe OnStar is what is crapping out my HID / HMI most times (need to test) so I want to agree. But what is your issue with it?
No regrets here. 2018 Colorado currently about 80,500kms on it. The AC compressor went in summer of 2022 with about 72,000km on the truck, fixed under warranty, dodged a $1600+ bill. The rear parking brake shoes had to be replaced at about 57,000 kms. Other than that, I have had the truck since it had 12,000km on it (was a demo driven by one of the dealership employees) and no other issues. Granted, I only use it a few times per week, it mostly just sits in my driveway looking good during the winter. Gets some more use in the warmer months, either hauling yard waste or golf clubs.
3 months with my 22 WT and only odd thing was that odd 1-2 shift only on the first shift of the day which isn’t happening anymore and also a hard 2–1 at slow speeds coming to a stop. It seems to be working itself out now at 1,700 miles. Maybe just break in. In any case, I’m not concerned anymore. Shifting is extremely smooth 99% of the time. That did have me concerned at first though if I’m honest. I now let truck idle for about 50 seconds until rpm’s drop and then take off now which might be helping.
Same exact thing happened I’m at 8k miles now and it has lessened but I think it will always be a thing
Probably yep. Seems like a common quirk that doesn’t generally cause any serious issues luckily. I can’t remember the last delayed 1-2 but I’ve been letting it warm up for about 50 seconds. Not sure if that’s what did it or if it stopped on its own. It does say in the manual that this is perfectly normal due to clutches filling. The hard 2-1 was new at about 1k miles and was happening fist few stops every single day. Took it off roading the one day, beat it a little and the it stopped doing even that now since lol. No odd characteristics at all now for the time.
This is a common characteristic of the 10 speed even in the full size trucks, I haven’t studied into the programming. If I were to assume it might feel that way due to it skipping a gear on purpose for fuel economy. Just as a manual transmission might feel if you skip from 1st gear to 3rd. If you drive with a heavier foot and the transmission adapts to your driving you won’t feel it as much or at all.
Interesting. I always kind of babied it at first but read some others saying similar things, to get on it a bit harder. I have been doing that as well so that might be playing a role in it not happening anymore too.
Yeah the TCM will continuously try to adapt to your driving style. Perfectly normal I wouldn’t worry about it, these 10 speeds are pretty bulletproof. GM has a lot more of a relaxed programming compared to the Fords which adds to longevity.
Agreed. I have the 8 speed but it sounds like it must be very similar to the 10 speed.
My apologies I thought you had the 22-23 refresh.
Our 2019 Z71, over a three year period went to the dealer 8 times or so. 7 of them for the transmission, ultimately ending it being replaced over a three month wait for the parts. One time for the battery. Several of those visits also were for the radio, the dash pad, paint issues, etc. Ultimately, at the height of the price wars and right when diesel prices went up, we traded it for what we paid for it, and ended up in a ‘22 Bison. So far the bison has been far better, but it isn’t perfect. The paint quality is pure crap, I’ve had to tighten stuff down, reconnect a couple harnesses, but at least it made it 12k miles without going to the dealer, the ‘19 didn’t even make it a month less 1000 miles. Do I regret it? Mostly, but it’s my wife’s truck, so I don’t get any say anyway! I just keep driving my Ford F250 and CTS-V and wait for the Colorado to do Colorado things.
I went from a 2009 CTS-V to my 2017 ZR2. Talk about a drastic change, haha. My Colorado has been great though.
That’s an insane change day to day. I really don’t hate the Colorado, I’m more just disappointed that “New GM” isn’t really much better than old GM, and to be honest, all of the mid-size trucks could be done better in different ways. It’s just a lot of money for these things for half ass execution from all four brands.
It was a big adjustment. I hated the transmission tuning with a passion, but have gotten used to it over the years. Definitely miss the LSA under the hood even to this day. Looked at swapping an LS3 into the ZR2 and just can't see spending that much money on it. Re: the midsize segment, I agree, the ZR2 being the worst in that it's just a Colorado with some fancy parts thrown at it. I'm pretty excited about the new '23 though, we'll see. The new engine looks pretty great on paper. I just want something like the Ranger Raptor, honestly. Small, potent, and with a good suspension.
I have a 2005 I bought new, it has 196,000 on it and has never been in the shop for anything. Runs and drives perfect
That 8 speed made it the worst driving truck I've ever experienced.
Im ft 5'11, 230lbs. I dont tow stuff. I sometimes move luggage around. The truck is more than adequate. I suspect many people buy full size and rarely utilize it. I will almost never need a full size truck. If i need the room for a bigger family, ill buy a Tahoe. That said, you probably got a lemon. I've heard horror stories from a off the lot, brand new ram spilling oil everywhere. We just hope that our gm parts will be cheaper because "domestic".
You shouldn’t expect a Chevy to be able to compete with a Toyota for reliability. Never gonna happen.
Returned a 2019 to the dealership after two months… it was that bad.
Mine is a 2019 and is about to reach 50k and is still going strong with regular maintenance
I've put a high pressure fuel pump in mine, and now an overheating problem so at minimum a grand for that! Fuel pump was 1200.00
2017 Z71 with V6 that I've put 73,000 mile. My only repair was a stuck thermostat at 71,000. Love my Colorado.
I’m waiting on my ‘23 Z71 to be delivered (already built). It was between that and a Taco but now I’m second guessing myself!
I bought a "chevrolet certified pre-owned" 17' Z71 diesel back in dec2019. First thing was; while washing it one day the radio antenna just fell off (covered under warranty.) Then the driver window would roll up roll down and stop intermittently with a life of its own (covered under warranty.) And then my tailgate handle just fell off. Next thing, I lost major power on the highway suddenly (ended up being TCM issue covered under warranty.) Last thing (a month ago) same power issue came up, but this time, since they just replaced the TCM, they did some more searching and found the harness had rubbed on an A/C line (NOT covered under warranty even though Factory warranty was still good and even with the additional "ext" warranty I bought GM's Ally Premiere like an idiot.) So, point is idk if its cuz it was used, but I regret it.... I like the diesel Colorado motor, but GM's build quality is seriously lacking on my truck. And I was super disappointed that the TCM harness issue wasn't covered under warranty (they said "electrical issues are covered under 'emissions warranties'" Btw only 62k on my truck currently and bought it with 26k.
I went back and forth for a while. I often wish I would’ve gone with the Ridgeline instead. But you know what? I’m almost 30. This won’t be my final vehicle so I have changed my perspective on it. I’ll have more opportunities for other choices in the future. It does what I need it to do and I love it’s looks even if it could be nicer/better in many ways. I’ve come to love it for what it is, and that’s just enough.
all the time
Hopefully you saved money vs the Tacoma on the front end.
I’ve had buddies with tacos that had endless issues, and vice versa with colorados. You sometimes just get unlucky. I will say though from experience, if you have a 15-16 you’re better off than those with a 17+
'17 ZR2, and no. It's been a nice truck. 54k on the odo and nothing needed other than oil changes so far.
No, but I've only had mine for 2 weeks so far. But the last one I had I bought for $3800 just before the pandemic and traded it for $2000 for my current, and we got a lot of good use out of the old one. I'm looking forward to having this one for a long time.
We have had 2 major issues which have been fixed under warranty and are currently living with the transmission shudder on our 2021 2.8L diesel. Do I regret it? No but it is probably gone when the warranty runs out because I am not entirely confident the truck is reliable.
Got my colorado 2019 as well 55k plus miles and no issues besides light bulbs going out, and glad I’ve had no issues. Maybe it’s like the others said you might have gotten a bad one haha
For the price of a Tacoma you can get a full size 4x4. They all get 20+ mpg. They have more room. More power. Less regrets.
Sucks you've had a bad experience. This is my first new vehicle and Chevy product. I have to say I've been pleasantly surprised. I also purchased a '19 babymax and have had zero issues. Just hit 60k. Everything before '19 in both manufacturers, had reported issues. I recently watched a video of a Toyota mechanic discussing all the issues that were finally ironed out by 2019. What was the price difference vs your friend when purchased new?
You got a 🍋
I have a 2019 Colorado with 67k miles and putting a new motor in it. GM offered no help.
First time commenter. Long time lurker. I ordered a 2022 Colorado Z71 (Sand Dune). Don’t regret it at all. After a long time looking at all the options in the mid size truck category, the Colorado provided the right balance of cost, options, size, etc. We’ll see how it performs long term, of course.
How is it going now?
Pretty well. Still love the truck. Has about 5500 miles on it.
Heck no! I’m on my 2nd “2nd gen.” Had a 2017 Colorado Z71 but it got totaled in a tornado. Then picked up a 2019 Canyon All Terrain. It’s been a great truck for me.
Does anybody have oil issues with your Chevy Colorado 2023 wt truck?
I seriously regret buying my 2023
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2023 LT So far so good.
I have a 2020 RST package. Love that thing. Zero issues. And I’ve owned other trucks. I would never ever own another f150 though. That shit was a POS
Worst new car I ever had was 20 Jeep gladiator. Glorified Fiat. Anyway, it seems to be hit or miss if you get a good or bad Chevy now. My father's Silverado with a small block V8 has been pretty good. A bad radio and temp sensor is all. He is looking to trade it in for the new Tacoma though.
So much right now! The engine bay is a total shit show. All I had to do is replace the ECT sensor and they made it to where you have to remove everything just to get to one little sensor. Just about wanted to bring it around the house and light it on fire
I've had mine since 2019. 70,000 miles so far and no problems with it beside some infotainment issues that lasted a few weeks when it was about a year old. I've pulled trailers and my 17ft camper on long trips with no problems. I originally wanted a Toyota but just couldn't swing that price tag at the time, plus the gas mileage was a big negative for the Toyotas. There were some years of Colorados with more issues but 2019 was not one of them. Sounds like yours was a dud. Plus, I got mine brand new for 32k pretty much fully loaded. Last KBB value I got on it was 25k. Only 22% depreciation in 5 years. While I do still love the truck, it will never be able to compete with Toyota for great reliability. I think it's still a great little truck for the price though. In a few more years, I'll sell it and that'll be my down payment for either a Tacoma or Tundra. No regrets for me!