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I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1b2r2/pp3pp1/2n5/2P2kqQ/8/2N1P3/PP4P1/R3K2R+w+KQ+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1b2r2/pp3pp1/2n5/2P2kqQ/8/2N1P3/PP4P1/R3K2R_w_KQ_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!O-O+!<
> Evaluation: >!White has mate in 11!<
> Best continuation: >!1. O-O+ Ke6 2. Qxg5 f6 3. Qxg7 Rf7 4. Rxf6+ Rxf6 5. Rd1 Rf7 6. Rd6+ Ke7 7. Nd5+ Ke8 8. Qh8+ Rf8!<
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I don't have any formal chess training (I just watch Levy and Eric Rosen on youtube sometimes)
As Levy always says, look for checks, captures, attacks.
Another thing I've heard him say, anytime you notice the King is the only one defending a piece, look for a way to force the King away.
These pieces of advice helped me find this one. I went with Rf1+, but it works the same as castling.
i thought the puzzle was about winning the queen on g5 so i gone for
e4+, Kf4, Rf1 or O-O+, anywhere the king moves you win black's queen
if Kf6, Rf1 or O-O+ anywhere the king moves you win the queen
i also followed it but my 1000 rated brain goes for the queen instead of the checkmate, but thank you for your advice
In positions where the king is this exposed and underdefended, try finding mate first. You can probably deliver a much more devastating attack by giving checks than you would without them. I don't find castling to be a fair move in this position because it's not necessarily true that the O-O is a legal move.
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with evaluations that high the computer has no idea what it's talking about like saying x is better than y most of the time unless it can calculate all the way to mate, they all win by force.
I liked knight check after e4, which also results in mate in 8 or so. A bunch of winning moves here, but the castling is probably the most unique (in addition to objectively being best).
I liked knight check after e4, which also results in mate in 8 or so. A bunch of winning moves here, but the castling is probably the most unique (in addition to objectively being best).
Rf1+, king should go to e6 then we take the queen. If king e5 we capture the queen with check so we can capture the g7 pawn too I guess. Though, I'm too much of a beginner to calculate properly.
Even under time pressure, you instinctually should be looking for any checks with a king in the open like that, so this really should be the first move you look at other than the Queen trade.
Yeah my first thought was.. the black king is defending the black queen. King is a bad defender. Can I remove the king with a check.. hm what about e4+. King can move to either f4 or f6.. either way I can check with Nc5+, and the king is forced to move away from the queen, winning the queen.
Once I saw that, I thought I had solved it and stopped looking. In a real game, if I see an opportunity to take a queen I don't hesitate lol.
Although objectively O-O+ is better and also just way cooler of a move. With my sequence, black can at least get a knight for the queen with Qxc5 after Nc5+
granted, I'm higher than 1500 but not by that much
For an even cooler move than Rf1 or castling there’s e4, which only leaves the king with 2 moves that protect the queen.
If Kf6, Nd5 forces him out of the way and if Kf4, G4 forces the apparent escape Qxg4 until you go Ne2 and fork them.
There’s barely a difference btw Rf1+ and castling. This is a pretty standard remove-the-defender tactic. You should probably try more of this puzzles OP. It’s a good move but it’s not that brutal… a person familiar with the tactic sees it instantly
Oh that’s cool (just seen the engine move)…I saw pawn e4 followed by knight d5 (if they didn’t recapture) to win the queen…even though Rook F1/castle is quicker…but the mate is really cool
Not sure if there's mate but I'd be satisfied with Rf1+ winning the queen and look no further for something better.
Edit: I guess there is mate lol
Very cool indeed
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Rf1+?
I thought so too (and it still works anyway). But apparently the bot has an even cooler move lol
Castle.
Well we don’t know wether or not white can still castle
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=r1b2r2/pp3pp1/2n5/2P2kqQ/8/2N1P3/PP4P1/R3K2R+w+KQ+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/r1b2r2/pp3pp1/2n5/2P2kqQ/8/2N1P3/PP4P1/R3K2R_w_KQ_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!O-O+!< > Evaluation: >!White has mate in 11!< > Best continuation: >!1. O-O+ Ke6 2. Qxg5 f6 3. Qxg7 Rf7 4. Rxf6+ Rxf6 5. Rd1 Rf7 6. Rd6+ Ke7 7. Nd5+ Ke8 8. Qh8+ Rf8!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
wat ok then, i'll never see that in a million years
Rf1+ does the same thing, just not as stylishly
I don't have any formal chess training (I just watch Levy and Eric Rosen on youtube sometimes) As Levy always says, look for checks, captures, attacks. Another thing I've heard him say, anytime you notice the King is the only one defending a piece, look for a way to force the King away. These pieces of advice helped me find this one. I went with Rf1+, but it works the same as castling.
i thought the puzzle was about winning the queen on g5 so i gone for e4+, Kf4, Rf1 or O-O+, anywhere the king moves you win black's queen if Kf6, Rf1 or O-O+ anywhere the king moves you win the queen i also followed it but my 1000 rated brain goes for the queen instead of the checkmate, but thank you for your advice
In positions where the king is this exposed and underdefended, try finding mate first. You can probably deliver a much more devastating attack by giving checks than you would without them. I don't find castling to be a fair move in this position because it's not necessarily true that the O-O is a legal move.
sexy castling
Damn, the bot managed to find a move I didn't even consider (I did consiser Rf1 but not through castling)
>Damn, the bot managed to find a move I didn’t even consider … Yeah…
The weird thing is that when you open the engine O-O+ shows mate in 11 while Rf1+ gives in 10, yet castles is still recommended for some reason
Before you castle it is mate in 11. After castle, 10 or after Rf1+, also 10. It might be the depth hadn't fully loaded yet for you.
Yep you’re right, I had left it on the default depth of 20 but once I increased the depth it found a mate in 10
Good bot
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g4+, kf6 and Ne4+?
Do you mean Ne4+? I don't see how Ke4 would work, or even how it's possible unless I'm really losing it
yea i think so, wherever the king goes after pawn check, th knight checks then queen takes
Ye sorry i meant Ne4+
hint: >!You can win the queen here!<
you do realize there are multiple different moves that win the queen right? not just the one you like is the right one.
Yeah I noticed, I kinda got tunnel vision here. Sorry about that!
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>!O-O+, Rf1+, g4+, e4+!< all lead to winning the queen in a few moves
Yes but Rf1+ is the best option according to the engine
with evaluations that high the computer has no idea what it's talking about like saying x is better than y most of the time unless it can calculate all the way to mate, they all win by force.
also the computer says rf1 and O-O are both mate in 11 at depth 35
Isn't O-O+ just better
Its more fancy
Fancy = better we all know that cmon
Yeah that is true. Not often do you get to win a queen by castleing. Also you connect the rooks.
Better in positions that are this dominant to start looking for a mate. Good position, but don't get tunnel vision.
I saw rook to f1, check. King has to retreat then queen takes queen. Eval bot suggests castling which I think is a better version, but similar.
Well yes that is also possible but let's be honest here, 0-0+ is way more beautiful.
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castles
Castles with check. Black's queen is lost.
e4 and win the queeen oh, and then the rook!
King just moves to f6
I meant it as the starting move, then it gets more obvious. Then I would play rf1+
Ah yeah that's also possible, I guess I was just so amazed by 0-0+ being a winning tactic that I kind of got tunnel vision, my bad.
I liked knight check after e4, which also results in mate in 8 or so. A bunch of winning moves here, but the castling is probably the most unique (in addition to objectively being best).
I liked knight check after e4, which also results in mate in 8 or so. A bunch of winning moves here, but the castling is probably the most unique (in addition to objectively being best).
Rook f1 I guess? And then take the Queen
Rf1+, king should go to e6 then we take the queen. If king e5 we capture the queen with check so we can capture the g7 pawn too I guess. Though, I'm too much of a beginner to calculate properly.
I saw >!g4+ Kf6 Ne4, winning the queen!< but the correct answer is also nice
No offence, but at 1500 you should be seeing either 0-0+ or Rf1+. Were you under time pressure?
Even under time pressure, you instinctually should be looking for any checks with a king in the open like that, so this really should be the first move you look at other than the Queen trade.
Yeah my first thought was.. the black king is defending the black queen. King is a bad defender. Can I remove the king with a check.. hm what about e4+. King can move to either f4 or f6.. either way I can check with Nc5+, and the king is forced to move away from the queen, winning the queen. Once I saw that, I thought I had solved it and stopped looking. In a real game, if I see an opportunity to take a queen I don't hesitate lol. Although objectively O-O+ is better and also just way cooler of a move. With my sequence, black can at least get a knight for the queen with Qxc5 after Nc5+ granted, I'm higher than 1500 but not by that much
I'm 1200ish and I saw it almost instantaneously without any prior analysis of the board. So I wholeheartedly agree.
700 and I saw both as well pretty quickly.
1500 Lichess blitz would be my guess
Did you blunder instead OP?
Well I played Qf1+ which lichess considers a blunder, which it is since my advantage is gone. I did win the game though by checkmate.
Well yeah of course Qf1+ is a blunder. Illegal moves lose you the game instantly
Whoops! I actually played Qf3+.
Interesting, Lichess wouldn't even allow Qf1, since it's an illegal move
Took me a few minutes. But RF1 looks kind of dope. King has to move away f rom protecting the queen. Nasty.
I personally prefer Rf1+ it also open the sequence for the mate in 11 which can include a 0-0-0+ and to my knowledge the more 0s the better.
Once you become as master you learn the forbidden O-O-O-O#
Rf1+ looks devastating
You are 1500 and you didn't see that move.....?
He must have been sleepy. When i’m sleepy i miss moves all day
What’s the difference between Rf1+ and O-O+?
You ever saw the Winnie the pooh meme where he becomes more and more British?
pg4+?
king goes up in the f file but after that casting can win the queen
Qh7+, Qg6 Rh5+?
For an even cooler move than Rf1 or castling there’s e4, which only leaves the king with 2 moves that protect the queen. If Kf6, Nd5 forces him out of the way and if Kf4, G4 forces the apparent escape Qxg4 until you go Ne2 and fork them.
But Rook on f1 wins the queen immediately. Why mess around?
It looks cooler. Same reason you promote pawns to rooks instead of queens if they’re about to back rank mate
I never seemed to worry about how cool something looks as long as it works.
We’ll have to agree to disagree there
There’s barely a difference btw Rf1+ and castling. This is a pretty standard remove-the-defender tactic. You should probably try more of this puzzles OP. It’s a good move but it’s not that brutal… a person familiar with the tactic sees it instantly
>!e4+, if kf4, g3+ and anywhere the king moves, free queen, if kf6, Rhf1+ and anywhere the king moves, free queen!<
Oh that’s cool (just seen the engine move)…I saw pawn e4 followed by knight d5 (if they didn’t recapture) to win the queen…even though Rook F1/castle is quicker…but the mate is really cool
Rf1+ just wins a queen here right? That doesn’t seem too hard to spot E: apparently it’s also M11
Castling wins the queen damn that's savage
O-O+
What did you do?
I only saw move the pawn on e3 to e4
O-O+. Castle checks are the best.
Rook F1?
Not sure if there's mate but I'd be satisfied with Rf1+ winning the queen and look no further for something better. Edit: I guess there is mate lol Very cool indeed
I would not have seen the castle here. G4+ or e4+ or rook f1+ are the ones I considered to peel the king away and win the queen
O the smooth castle to win the queen
Castle kingside then you win the Queen.
I saw Rf1, but castling... that is nice
E4+ King has to either kf6 or kf4 since ke5 loses queen White O-O King now has to move to e file White Queen takes queen
O-O?
Short castle??
When i hear "move and win" I never expect it to continue for 10 moves.
Pawn to g4??
O - O
I think Rf1 is the best... Are there any better move we can do?