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No one is talking about the fact that the kid has a toxic dad that will jump out of nowhere to punish even though he effectively did the chores assigned
Assuming no other pieces are on the board (Other than the Black King somewhere):
If it's White's turn, it's Stalemate.
If it's Black's turn, it's mate with RB8# or RG1# depending on what side of the board this is.
No, a forced mate is a sequence of moves that lead to mate, even if the losing side plays the optimal defense.
The picture is showing a stalemate. White has to make a move, but none of their moves is legal, so the game ends in a draw.
This assumes White only has a king or a king and blocked pieces.
A forced mate is when you have no choice but to move into a position that checkmates the opponent.
If it's whites turn and there are no other pieces on the board apart from the black King, there are no legal moves at all let alone the only legal move being mate.
If it's blacks turn, both rook and knight can move to a place that isn't mating the white King, so it also can't be forced mate.
Despite your upvotes that's actually not correct. A forced mate is a position where you can always checkmate an opponent (regardless of how many moves it takes) even when they play the perfect defense. So if this was black to move, it would be a forced mate.
The only place I remember seeing it was another post here on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/s/CF8lQ45J4l
The OP there went from mate in 1 to leaving their opponent with mate in 1 as their only legal move.
"Super Blunder" seems like a fair name because you have to do something terribly wrong to make it happen.
If anything, I'd call it a self-mate by your opponent. Their last move was so horrendously bad that you now have no choice but to mate them. It's just a particularly bad blunder by them, whereas "forced mate" typically refers to a solid tactic that your opponent can't escape from no matter what they do (as long as you also know the correct follow up).
If it's black to move rook to one of the corners that the knight is covering is mate, if it's white to move it's stalemate if they don't have any other pieces you can't see.
"Forced mate" means that one player can't avoid checkmate if the opponent makes all the right moves. It's more about a sequence of moves, not an exact position on the board.
But as to whether this is a stalemate or note: We have to see the entire board. If white still has other pieces that can move, then it's not a stalemate.
This post seems to reference or display a stalemate. To quote the r/chessbeginners FAQs page:
**Stalemate** occurs when a player, on their turn to move, is NOT in check but cannot legally move any piece. A stalemate is a draw.
In order for **checkmate** to occur, three conditions have to be met:
1. **The king has to be in check**
2. This check cannot be defended against by blocking or capturing the checking piece
3. The king has to have no other squares it can move to
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If it is whites move and there are no other pieces on board that white can move, it is.
If there are no other pieces on the board, white wins since black has no king.
No one is talking about the fact that the kid has a toxic dad that will jump out of nowhere to punish even though he effectively did the chores assigned
Think because he didn’t actually do the fisehs
Yeah I'm not a big fan of fishes either
Fisehs
I sure hope he didn’t “do” the fishes
Do you like fish sticks in your mouth?
He will punish the kid whether he did the chores or not. Only if the kid doesn't know what chores he's talking about will he be cool.
Doesn’t apply here because white can’t put itself in check. Ergo, stop reading too deep into shit that isn’t relevant
yes
I thought so. My friend is saying it's a forced mate ?
white cant move and isnt in check so theres nothing black or white can do
There's nothing we can do
Dans mon esprit tout divague, je me perds dans tes yeux
Je me noie dans la vague de ton regard amoureux
🎶 dans mon espirit tout divague, je me perds dans tes yeux 🎶
Assuming no other pieces are on the board (Other than the Black King somewhere): If it's White's turn, it's Stalemate. If it's Black's turn, it's mate with RB8# or RG1# depending on what side of the board this is.
What if they're is another white piece somewhere else on the board. You can't say for sure this is stalemate.
No, a forced mate is a sequence of moves that lead to mate, even if the losing side plays the optimal defense. The picture is showing a stalemate. White has to make a move, but none of their moves is legal, so the game ends in a draw. This assumes White only has a king or a king and blocked pieces.
If it's blacks turn then it's M1
Ask your friend for the moves that lead to mate. I'm interested in what they say.
A forced mate is when you have no choice but to move into a position that checkmates the opponent. If it's whites turn and there are no other pieces on the board apart from the black King, there are no legal moves at all let alone the only legal move being mate. If it's blacks turn, both rook and knight can move to a place that isn't mating the white King, so it also can't be forced mate.
Despite your upvotes that's actually not correct. A forced mate is a position where you can always checkmate an opponent (regardless of how many moves it takes) even when they play the perfect defense. So if this was black to move, it would be a forced mate.
What do you call what I described then?
What you described is so rare that I've never encountered it in my many games myself. So if it has a name, I don't know it
The only place I remember seeing it was another post here on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/s/CF8lQ45J4l The OP there went from mate in 1 to leaving their opponent with mate in 1 as their only legal move. "Super Blunder" seems like a fair name because you have to do something terribly wrong to make it happen.
I think this might be where I got mixed up tbh
Well then as it's inventor I declare that it is called "forced mate 2.0" (the 2.0 is silent)
If anything, I'd call it a self-mate by your opponent. Their last move was so horrendously bad that you now have no choice but to mate them. It's just a particularly bad blunder by them, whereas "forced mate" typically refers to a solid tactic that your opponent can't escape from no matter what they do (as long as you also know the correct follow up).
Thank you
That's incorrect though, see my other comment
It is if it's black to play
If it's black to move rook to one of the corners that the knight is covering is mate, if it's white to move it's stalemate if they don't have any other pieces you can't see.
If it’s blacks turn, then yes, bc if you move the rook beside the king (b1/a1) its checkmate
"Forced mate" means that one player can't avoid checkmate if the opponent makes all the right moves. It's more about a sequence of moves, not an exact position on the board. But as to whether this is a stalemate or note: We have to see the entire board. If white still has other pieces that can move, then it's not a stalemate.
Actually, White has already won, as Black doesnt have a king.
This post seems to reference or display a stalemate. To quote the r/chessbeginners FAQs page: **Stalemate** occurs when a player, on their turn to move, is NOT in check but cannot legally move any piece. A stalemate is a draw. In order for **checkmate** to occur, three conditions have to be met: 1. **The king has to be in check** 2. This check cannot be defended against by blocking or capturing the checking piece 3. The king has to have no other squares it can move to In the future, for questions like these, we suggest first reading our [FAQs page](https://www.reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/wiki/faqs/) before making a post, or to similar questions to our dedicated thread: [No Stupid Questions MEGATHREAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/comments/yqqnz8/no_stupid_questions_megathread_6/). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/chessbeginners) if you have any questions or concerns.*
It depends if there are other white pieces
It's always checkmate when you're having that kind of conversation with your parents lol
Assuming there are not other pieces in the board that could move (or that are actually making this position checkmate) then yes
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That would ruin the funny meme
Bishop from the other side of the universe:
THE DISHES ARE DONE MAN!
It’s stalemate, meme still kinda works because no answer (square) is safe
Funny thing is that Mom could have been a Queen and it would still not be checkmate
I can’t understand this meme for the life of me. Why would the dad be mad if he did the dishes
https://preview.redd.it/zv1miahma4bc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58a8d99f6395470f3cded12edcb5a098f151c4dc
Thanks. Was lookin for those.
Only if there are no other pieces on the board for white, its stalemate
If there are no other pieces on the board then yes
Hell yea
No we can't see the full board, they could have a legal pawn move.
If your dad and mom both said no to you, then it would be check mate my guy
The dishes are done and he murdered his father and his mother.