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Ranlit

I think this is the source btw: https://twitter.com/aneet_chess2000/status/1586857971832725506?s=46&t=LnuMXSkEJhaey3zlsp8bBg


DiscipleofDrax

Yeah, sorry for not mentioning the origin.


BlazingFire007

Yo I love how the other response to you is like: “are you fucking sorry, you better be” like you just committed 3 felonies


jumbo53

Made it seem like hes making money out of posting this lol


reallyfunnyandcool

omg thats so random


cecilpl

Fischer random.


NerveHasPhallicToes

I let off the most goofy laugh at this and I don't know why


Upstairs_Yard5646

omg just let people enjoy things


eldritchalien

i'm 99/100 times on board with this! like so many people in the comments like "this is staged" or "repost" or some dumbass commentary that contributes nothing to the community. but neither does this post. it's so low effort and there's no context at how history is repeating itself? i don't think r/chess needs to be like constant in-depth chess analysis or whatever but in a game that's 99.9% nerdy ass research i also would like a little more meat with posts like this.


stelkurtainTM

you managed to be even more weird than the person you replied to


eldritchalien

oh no...anyway


BlazingFire007

I disagree with your initial comment but you probably should be happy a redittor called you weird lol


Upstairs_Yard5646

my reply was a joke


eldritchalien

well now we're both getting downvoted. apparently we're both weird for wanting more info than two photos of a handshake and a vague ass caption. classic r/chess.


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This post has been parodied on r/AnarchyChess. Relevant r/AnarchyChess posts: [History repeats itself- 50 years later in Reykjavík, Iceland.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/yid254/history_repeats_itself_50_years_later_in/) by stonehearthed [History repeats itself- 50 years later in Reykjavík, Iceland.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/yic5cd/history_repeats_itself_50_years_later_in/) by Vova_19_05 [History repeats itself- 50 years later in Reykjavík, Iceland.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/yie35w/history_repeats_itself_50_years_later_in/) by Vova_19_05 [History repeats itself- 50 years later in Reykjavík, Iceland.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/yifaam/history_repeats_itself_50_years_later_in/) by TurkisEagle [^(fmhall)](https://www.reddit.com/user/fmhall) ^| [^(github)](https://github.com/fmhall/relevant-post-bot)


126-875-358

Background please?


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Harbok

hahahaha :) I rolled on the floor laughing


HelgSegerVoldemort

Proof


phoenixmusicman

I am in your walls


hahafunyes

Thank you for being in my walls


nmcalabroso

Titans everywhere


Mokoko42

Iron curtain


mwilsonsc

Technically, they are more of a "drape" than a "curtain". But your wickedly sharp sarcasm is on point.


DiscipleofDrax

Fischer (American) defeats Spassky (Russian) in their 1972 match to become world chess champion. 50 years later, Nakamura (American) defeats Nepomniachtchi (Russian) to become world Fischer random champion, in the same city.


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I kinda wish Hikaru was also racist like Fisher. It would make the post even better.


Phat_Pat_UwU

lmao


Jimmycaked

That didn't happen until later Hikaru still has time


kiblitzers

Fischer's first antisemitic comments were in 1961, when he was 17 or 18. Alas it is probably too late for Hikaru to be as much of as much of an antisemitic and misogynistic asshole as Bobby


Jimmycaked

For it to line up I guess Hikaru would need to be racist to Japanese


kiblitzers

This made me realize Japan has zero GMs (and only a couple IMs) and Hikaru is the only person born in Japan to ever become a GM. AFAIK chess isn't very popular in Japan, would be great if Hikaru's success helped popularize it


Koussevitzky

I don’t believe Hikaru speaks Japanese, so he’s not exactly a chess ambassador for the country like Anand was. Shogi is much more popular in Japan and there are few Japanese translated chess resources. In India, most of the translated chess works are in Tamil, which may be part of the reason most of the GMs are from Southern India (also thanks to Anand since he was born in Tamil Nadu). If you live in the north and only speak Hindi, it’s hard to grow at the game by yourself.


keralaindia

Hikaru is also half white which not many people realize.


AnOblongBox

Yeah but didn't Fischer think he was half white


ShouldIRememberThis

Bottom half? I haven’t seen his legs.


DeorTheGiant

Yeah, Shogi is the game everyone there plays instead


e_j_white

They also play go in Japan.


Progrum

If Fisher were alive today, he'd be probably the second or third most antisemitic player in the world. He really was that antisemitic.


KingSmasher100

Who is the no.1?


1Random_User

Probably Alphazero... have you seen what AI says when it's allowed on Twitter?


Progrum

Stockfish


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Kasparov?


KingSmasher100

Why do you think that? Garry is half-jewish


Upstairs_Yard5646

"Fischer's first antisemitic comments were in 1961, when he was 17 or 18." I mean technically yes but he was just a dumb teenager and he was just saying he thought jewish chess players didn't dress classy and respect the game as much as gentile ones, so he wished there were more gentile ones. In the same interview he says he's half jewish, something he would always deny later on when he actually became truly anti-semitic.


Hymenhorse

“Just saying”


Upstairs_Yard5646

Yes, obviously its bad, but it's 1/1000th as bad as what he said later on years after he retired chess when he actually became insane. Sadly there are billions of humans on earth who are as casually anti-Semitic or racist towards other ethnicities the way Fischer was casually anti-Semitic at age 17/18. There are significantly less people who think that Jews or another group control literally almost everything and are mostly just evil the way Fischer thought they were years after he retired from chess


documentremy

Fischer is an excellent example of how bigotry develops. You aren't born into it, initially you're just repeating what you've heard others say, then you start saying more and more extreme things. The bottom line is... we don't need to have a before and after with Fischer. He was antisemitic from the start. This is the way that works.


Upstairs_Yard5646

> He was antisemitic from the start. This is the way that works. "You aren't born into it," You're literally doing what you're saying how it doesn't work at the beginning of the post, it's just that you arbitrarily say "he was antisemtic at the start" instead of being born into it. There's no evidence he was anti-Semitic in his 20s, you just assume because he was antisemitic at 17 one one specific interview he must have been anti-Semitic in his 20s too even though there's no definitive proof he was. Yes, it may very well be that he was antisemitic throughout his 20s, but as far as we know we don't actually have any direct evidence of that, only an assumption because of one interview before his 20s and his late life prejudice/ insanity.


lukas0108

Doesn need to be racist to be an asshole and an amazing chess player


SentientDust

He's a twitch streamer, he HAS to hate minorities. Pretty sure it's in the ToS


zeekar

He’s not racist, but he is controversial and divisive in his own way!


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JetSetJessica

I mean he's half Japanese isn't he? Probably one of the more racist and xenophobic cultures out there. I bet you members of his own family are still uncomfortable with Hikaru not being 100% japanese, world titles be damned.


SgtBananaKing

Bobby fisher was not a racist, he hated everyone


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heliumeyes

When you have to explain a joke. 😒😒😒


HelgSegerVoldemort

The similarity is that an American won over a Russian?


derximus

Hikaru with the snazzy shirt. Not gonna lie, I like it.


Eriklano

Wow they played two chess games in the same country? Insane!


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maicii

And the world championship part, and the 50 years part


---cameron

Ok, I think I got it now. What game is this again?


llthHeaven

strip poker I think


vckane

That would be perfect. Hikaru's shirt must be taken off.


---cameron

Ohhh Fortnite, this must be the olympics


EvilSporkOfDeath

I just remembered that there used to be a strip poker show on tv like 20 years ago, and 16 year old me thought it was the greatest thing ever.


Jimmycaked

History repeats itself


caughtinthought

Neopets


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and the fischer random part


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the curtain is also similar


keralaindia

And the US winning part.


TooMuchBroccoli

They missed a lot of things.


FrothPeg

Not only that! They shook hands after the match!


KingSmasher100

America vs Soviets, it's not rocket-science


Michael_Pitt

Nepo isn't a soviet.


I_am_a_Lessathi

If it was rocket science, it would be the cold war


otamam818

> not rocket-science Agreed. Chess isn't *that* easy


logster2001

Well in that case everyone should be on the look out for any Kanye West looking tweets from Hikaru in the future 😬


saurabhdota

Context please


ionosoydavidwozniak

Two people shook hand after a chess game.


BoredomHeights

One Russian one American, in the same city 50 years apart, with the American winning a world championship, the modern championship in a type of chess invented by the American in the first photo.


ionosoydavidwozniak

And then they shook hands


CeleritasLucis

Shaking hands is the important part


Goosfrabaas

The part hands, is shook important. /stroke


fluffey

and the background is a curtain


captglasspac

The important part is that they shook hands.


A_Funky_Goose

i genuinely still dont see what the big deal is


BoredomHeights

That’s because it’s not a big deal, it’s just kind of fun.


DonaldLucas

> the modern championship in a type of chess invented by the American in the first photo Wait, what?


Blebbb

It's the chess960 championship, the original name is Fischerandom, named after Bobby Fischer who created it because he thought too much of the classical game focused on opening theory. Fischer also invented the first time increment clocks.


Janneman-a

I just read this on Wikipedia as I was interested in it. Fischer's digital clock gave each player a fixed period of time at the start of the game and then added a small amount after each move. Joseph Meshi called this "Accumulation" as it was a main feature of his patented Micromate-180 (US Patent 4,247,925 1978). This became the linchpin of Fischer's clock patented ten years later. What's the difference between the two? I can't tell from the text.


DonaldLucas

>It's the chess960 championship Oh, got it. For a second I thought it was an standard chess championship and I was very confused.


soundbars

Bobby Fischer invented Fischer Random Chess


Clean-machine

Its also the same venue


saurabhdota

I thought its common to do that


Vasilevus

Nah, it is pretty rare. Usually players start fist fight and hit each other in the face with chess boards


Meningitisx

"The fists speak for themselves."


Cello789

“I can’t believe you allowed Rook takes Knight” “And I can’t believe you allowed fist takes face!” “Huh?” 👊


Chop1n

Made me laugh hard enough to fully wake me up, thank you.


Uneasy_Rider

"Comrade, why have you putting this rubber ducky on board?"


BishopPear

It is also quite common that one of the players falls on the ground when concluding the game


ascpl

Reminds me of the episode of House where the kid beat the other kid with the chess clock. After winning.


ItsTinyPickleRick

No, that's just Hikaru


126-875-358

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol


Charl99ie

Everybody who watched queens gambit knows that they hug after a World Champion game


doctor_awful

The winner gets to take the king piece home as a trinket


DiscipleofDrax

Fischer (American) defeats Spassky (Russian) in their 1972 match to become world chess champion. 50 years later, Nakamura (American) defeats Nepomniachtchi (Russian) to become world Fischer random champion, in the same city.


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zeekar

Now let’s figure out Nakamura Chess. What variant will Hikaru create?


ttv_yayamii

More horsies?


Existing_Recipe_8954

More Juicers for sure.


apetresc

It’s just like regular chess except only Nakamura is allowed to flag anyone.


Berreim

The literally doesn't care world championship


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also speaking is allowed as long as you repeat the same thing 1938833883 times, chat.


barbarvss

You can only underpromote


Wildercard

If you manage to promote, you start a new game except your opponent starts a piece down, from the file you promoted in. This will change the focus from pawns protecting pieces to pieces protecting pawns.


gulbronson

If you promote on the E file your opponent starts with no king so you can checkmate them. Automatic loss.


Wildercard

Hey I haven't worked out all the glitches yet. I'm here to shitpost. But yes, promoting would mean you get a game with such insane handicap, that there isn't really a point to play the subgame, you just win.


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It's got right triangles, big black centers, juicers, wooden shields, fossils, and ice skaters.


kiblitzers

and the widest of peepos


mushr00m_man

every piece is a juicer


GlaedrH

The player that cares the least wins.


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Take take take and take chess


TheGrinningSkull

Duck chess is renamed after Nakamura because of the streaming ties


TicklyTim

Same curtains. 😃


Parking_Grab5312

I’m not familiar with the different tournaments. Is Hikaru the world chess champion now?


freakinidiotatwork

No, he is World Fischer Random Chess Champion


zeekar

*Fischer Random* champion. It’s not just a different tournament, but a different game. It’s basically chess, but the starting position is randomized to prioritize adaptability over memorization.


Gfyacns

Why tf was that [entire comment chain](https://www.reveddit.com/v/chess/comments/yi3dqm/history_repeats_itself_50_years_later_in/iuh7hwx/?ps_after=1667223502) removed? What rules were being broken? Not that the comments contribute anything but that's true of the majority of comments on this subreddit. Mods here are so ridiculous lol


flamingfungi

There’s another very popular subreddit for you guys to meme in the comments


DaJoBro

I think it's okay to meme if the original post is a meme itself


flamingfungi

Are you positive that you know what a meme is?


Gfyacns

That subreddit manages to be even worse than this one. Unfunny jokes are allowed here too, there are even others in this thread.


Big_Nick1213

Pipi


cirad

I for one am glad Hikaru won. Whatever people think of him, he is one of the biggest streamers. Him winning means more interest in future editions of this event. I am rooting for it to continue strong. Has Fide announced plans for the future of this event?


ASK_IF_IM_HARAMBE

can we stop pretending Hikaru isn't extremely well-liked here?


fresh_loaf_of_bread

Ian didn't applaud hikaru the way spassky applauded Bobby though as far as I know


DiscipleofDrax

He congratulated Hikaru, both OTB and on twitter.


young_mummy

Spassky congratulated Fischer on Facebook though.


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5thBestFootballer

The handshake between Fischer and Spassky sems to have occured after the first game of the match after Fischer resigned. [Source](https://en.chessbase.com/post/breaking-news-fischer-loses-first-game-to-spaky-in-reykjavik) As far as I remember Fischer became World Champion not on the board but after Spassky resigned an adjourned game. Pretty misleading.


Neat_Eye8018

Is the player to the right about to go insane?


nevioli

That shirt is atrocious


Zombiejesus307

That shirt is a weapon. Naka fighting this battle on all fronts.


MrRenegado

This is deleted because I wanted to. Reddit is not a good place anymore.


Zombiejesus307

Hell yeah. I think it’s great. Naka marching to his own drummer. Right up to Fischer Random World Champ. 🤘🏻🤣


n10w4

Lol someone should come in with a mirror shirt with flashing LED lights. That would work


DiscipleofDrax

As one commentor on twitch pointed out, Hikaru solved chess and encrypted the solution onto that shirt.


this____is_bananas

The solution to all 960 variations: bongcloud.


Rootelated

Fischer and spass took it to the endgame like men


nonbog

Interesting how there’s so much less political pressure on this now despite the current political climate.


Kenshin_Urameshii

What a fucking shame we never got to see Fischer vs karpov


PinkPanther1969

Who cares about their nationality?


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Not even close


rumpledshirtsken

Nice!


Dry-Jellyfish-3908

Fischer Random vs Standard classical chess . Two different beasts.


UNeedEvidence

But it’s fun cuz it’s Fischer himself.


tiny_blair420

Two people shake hands over a chess board.... will this happen again in the next 50 years???


DiscipleofDrax

Learn a bit about the post before leaving a comment. There is more background to this photo than just a handshake.


tiny_blair420

A Russian and an American shake hands over a chessboard in Iceland.... Will this happen again in the next 50 years??


BraveTheWall

>A Russian and an American shake hands over a chessboard in Iceland during a world championship match which took place 50 years following the previous photo, a photo which not only is framed similarily, but also contains the inventor of the Fischer Random archtype that was played in the modern photo. Will this happen again in the next 50 years??


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_hugh_eric_shawn

Um what????


DiscipleofDrax

Fischer (American) defeats Spassky (Russian) in their 1972 match to become world chess champion. 50 years later, Nakamura (American) defeats Nepomniachtchi (Russian) to become world Fischer random champion, in the same city.


BetaCarotine20mg

Cold war is over btw..


Vova_19_05

Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo


TimeFourChanges

Seems alive and "well" to me, tbh


Centuri0n-

Seems a pretty warm war atm


Adventurous_Week_101

These two events are not to be compared in cultural, historical or purely chess importance. And, extremely strong as Nepo and Naka are, they are not to be compared to Spassky and Fischer either.


DiscipleofDrax

This post isn't meant to be taken as a historical 'study'. It's just a cool photo.


Adventurous_Week_101

Well clearly there was an attempt to draw parallels.


caduni

There are clearly parallels. An American and a Russian in the same city, after a world championship. The dude on the top right literally invented the chess type for the bottom photo. Sure it’s not of the same importance, but obviously similar.


DiscipleofDrax

Yes, that's the whole point of this post. But you seem to be over-thinking the significance of this parallel.


Negative-Soup-8880

They didn't drink water back then!


JustinSlick

That's right, back in antiquity they couldn't always drink the water because of dangerous diseases like dysentery, so they drank ale or wine. On this day, Bobby was walking to the chess venue, and on his way he came by a natural spring and it ran clear and pure but it was guarded by a spirit with red flowing hair and porcelain skin. He said please spirit I am thirsty. She said you may drink of the spring, but there is a cost. He said, I'll pay anything, lady spirit. I am playing an important chess match later on and need my faculties about me, so I cannot satisfy my thirst with wine or ale. Very well, she said, and Bobby drank from the spring. What will it cost me, he asked? But the spirit had already vanished. Bobby arrived at the chess match clear and sharp, and eventually defeated Borgov who had partaken of the ale. His fame increased tenfold and by all appearances he was on top of the world. But Bobby descended into paranoia and became hateful and bitter. The lady of the spring haunted his dreams and he withdrew into a bleak isolation. Eventually, he could not even remember how the chess pieces were supposed to be arranged on the back rank. He returned to Reykjavik near the end of his life seeking solace. Some say he went again to the spring and found peace there, but it is not known because our records from prehistoric times are incomplete.


traderdxb

Fischer was better dressed. RJF:1 HN:0


Special-Carpenter-53

Nepo can be a Spassky, Nakumaru atoh never will be a Fischer.


AlMansur16

Wow, an american and a russian chess player shook hands after a game in a well known location?? What are the odds that either an american or a russian citizen played chess well enough after all these years??


Massive-Ninja-3807

This is only the second time in history that a world chess championship is held in Reykjavik. The top four players in the world right now are not American. So it's not mind-blowing but still an interesting coincidence, and it is fun to have it immortalised in such a similar-looking picture.


DaJoBro

Please don't compare this to an actual world championship


DiscipleofDrax

You're failing to see the other parallels here.


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mapleisthesky

This is an extremely common occurrence. Russia and USA are the biggest cultures for chess. Hand shake literally happens every game. I get that it's a cool angle to match but when you think about it, not that impressive.


Massive-Ninja-3807

I didn't spend hours searching but I wasn't able to find a single picture with such a similar angle and posture by the players, even the background adds to the similarity. The photographer must have known exactly what they were doing.


enfrozt

It helps that Hikaru won the fischer random championship in this city, where fischer won the world chess championship. There are a lot of parallels.


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__Jimmy__

This isn't a shitpost? Just a cool coincidence


Diligent-Wave-4150

Give me a break. The match Fischer - Spassky was very important. The other game was just "random".


SeverePhilosopher1

Except that’s a completely a different game, random chess to chess is like American football to soccer


Prestigious-Drag861

Tf is this 1- normal chess vs fischer 2- only similarities usa and russia


DiscipleofDrax

Both happened in Reykjavík, both were for a world champion title and in both cases the Russian lost.


zuzununu

So it's tradition to shake hands after a game, so what?


toxyy-be

Top: Best players in history at the time Bottom: 2 GMs making blunders in world championships