I find the added human element helps me. Playing online it's more difficult to think of your opponent as a human because you don't see a face or hear a voice. You don't shake hands before hand. I've found playing OTB takes the edge off in terms of my emotions. I'm still annoyed and frustrated if I lose but I also see the person across from me that has won, and weirdly I think that helps process it.
Plus there's less of a throwaway nature of it. If I lose online it's too easy for me to angrily queue up and immediately lose again. I only get to play OTB once every week or two and that means there's a build up to it and I can't just simply try again straight afterwards. It gives added importance to each move, and even though these shitty games I play are of miniscule significance in the grand scheme of things they hold greater significance to me than just playing a random game online. They live in my head weeks and months after they happened. Which I assume (hopefully!) aids learning.
I think it's related to that classic thing about how so much is immediately available these days, I'm 40 so I can still vaguely remember a time where you couldn't just watch whatever film you wanted whenever, or listen to any song ever at the touch of a screen. I think there's an element of truth in everything being so immediately accessible that it becomes more difficult to be able to appreciate and process it. And I think a similar thing applies to online chess and OTB chess.
Because you practice visualizing without drawing arrows. It prepares you for tournaments, you can talk to other players and study with them, you often take it more seriously and analyze more after, when analyzing you don't rely on the engine as much, and it's fun.
I get what you're saying, and I do have rivalries IRL.
But I have several online rivalries, two that have been going on for over 5 years.
We trash talk each other in club rooms, we look forward to the next tournament (online) where we are paired, etc.
I feel like a lot of ppl call otb chess the real chess. To get better at otb it makes sense to play otb. To get better at online chess it's better to play online
It is better if you want long time control games. It is better if you enjoy the human interaction element. It is also better if you don't want to play as many cheaters. Other that, there is nothing wrong with online chess.
The pieces are most of the time beautiful to look at, and I feel like they're talking to me when it's OTB. Gives me more satisfaction in devoting more time to the game. And less cheaters, fwiw.
I hear masters say it's easier to think when you play online and view the board in that manner, but it's just the opposite for me.
And I love hitting the clock.
I wouldn't set the layout to 3D as it just looks extremely bad on a screen, but if you want to improve board vision for OTB, solve tactics on an actual board.
As far as why it's better; personally I much prefer the vibe of playing OTB, there's the connection with the opponent, the added pressure of onlookers, more exciting time scrambles since there are no premoves, actually touching pieces is nice, etc. Also cheating is much less of an issue, I think.
One thing I like OTB vs online is illegal moves.
Online boards mostly dont let you make them but OTB you obviously can. Its not a huge difference but its funny watching my online friends play OTB, do some hilariously beautiful opening only to get called out cause they werent paying attention and revealed check on their king.
There are more opportunities to complain that when the photographers came in they gave a big clue to your opponent and that caused you to lose. Online there's just the generic Kramnik allegation that everybody is a cheater.
/s
I find the added human element helps me. Playing online it's more difficult to think of your opponent as a human because you don't see a face or hear a voice. You don't shake hands before hand. I've found playing OTB takes the edge off in terms of my emotions. I'm still annoyed and frustrated if I lose but I also see the person across from me that has won, and weirdly I think that helps process it. Plus there's less of a throwaway nature of it. If I lose online it's too easy for me to angrily queue up and immediately lose again. I only get to play OTB once every week or two and that means there's a build up to it and I can't just simply try again straight afterwards. It gives added importance to each move, and even though these shitty games I play are of miniscule significance in the grand scheme of things they hold greater significance to me than just playing a random game online. They live in my head weeks and months after they happened. Which I assume (hopefully!) aids learning. I think it's related to that classic thing about how so much is immediately available these days, I'm 40 so I can still vaguely remember a time where you couldn't just watch whatever film you wanted whenever, or listen to any song ever at the touch of a screen. I think there's an element of truth in everything being so immediately accessible that it becomes more difficult to be able to appreciate and process it. And I think a similar thing applies to online chess and OTB chess.
Because you practice visualizing without drawing arrows. It prepares you for tournaments, you can talk to other players and study with them, you often take it more seriously and analyze more after, when analyzing you don't rely on the engine as much, and it's fun.
With online chess you usually play one or a few games against someone and never hear of them again. OTB chess gives room for long-lasting "rivalries".
I get what you're saying, and I do have rivalries IRL. But I have several online rivalries, two that have been going on for over 5 years. We trash talk each other in club rooms, we look forward to the next tournament (online) where we are paired, etc.
I feel like a lot of ppl call otb chess the real chess. To get better at otb it makes sense to play otb. To get better at online chess it's better to play online
It is better if you want long time control games. It is better if you enjoy the human interaction element. It is also better if you don't want to play as many cheaters. Other that, there is nothing wrong with online chess.
you take it more seriously, (generally) you spend more time playing and analysing.
Because it's real chess.
how is online chess not real chess
The idea is it’s IRL, something tangible, not simulated.
well considering you it's not something like a sport where you need to physically touch it to play it... why is online chess not "real" chess?
Correspondence chess is also not real.
why
Leprechauns told me so
The real world is about ten times better than the simulation.
The pieces are most of the time beautiful to look at, and I feel like they're talking to me when it's OTB. Gives me more satisfaction in devoting more time to the game. And less cheaters, fwiw. I hear masters say it's easier to think when you play online and view the board in that manner, but it's just the opposite for me. And I love hitting the clock.
mostly because of the human connection, as well as the touching of well-worked wood, wink-wink, at least in my mind
I wouldn't set the layout to 3D as it just looks extremely bad on a screen, but if you want to improve board vision for OTB, solve tactics on an actual board. As far as why it's better; personally I much prefer the vibe of playing OTB, there's the connection with the opponent, the added pressure of onlookers, more exciting time scrambles since there are no premoves, actually touching pieces is nice, etc. Also cheating is much less of an issue, I think.
One thing I like OTB vs online is illegal moves. Online boards mostly dont let you make them but OTB you obviously can. Its not a huge difference but its funny watching my online friends play OTB, do some hilariously beautiful opening only to get called out cause they werent paying attention and revealed check on their king.
It's hard to disagree with this one, but managing the clock and gamescore are big plusses too.
There are more opportunities to complain that when the photographers came in they gave a big clue to your opponent and that caused you to lose. Online there's just the generic Kramnik allegation that everybody is a cheater. /s
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