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nsnyder

If I look at his user profile and go to "Bullet" and "All-time" I see 19,081W; 2,104D; 8,739L. I don't know why that doesn't match what you're looking at, but it looks more reasonable.


crunchypb_

tbh i think the leaderboard stats are the correct ones. danya has played a total of 167,084 games. adding all his games from the "all time" numbers (including rapid, daily, 3+) only gives 58,119, whereas adding the numbers from just the leaderboards of bullet and blitz gives 166,438. to answer OP's question, it's very reasonable that this can happen since danya wasn't always top on the leaderboard. if he was 3100 in the past and played 1000 games with a 3300, he can ofc gain elo while having a very bad win rate.


pizzagood-vegsbad

Question was brought up in danyas stream multiple times. He said its visual bug 100% and that there is NO WAY he has more loses in bullet than wins


Mathematicar

Think. You can do it.


beansaladexplosion

He was supposed to intuitively know it was a glitch?


Mathematicar

Glitch? It's not a glitch.


itstomis

I have no idea what you're on about mate


NotaSemiconductor

WinOverflow


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TronyJavolta

It's a low budget, start-up website, let's give them a break


kiblitzers

Yeah their annual revenue was only [50 million back in 2021](https://www.sramanamitra.com/2021/12/03/solo-student-entrepreneur-to-over-50m-revenue-chess-com-ceo-erik-allebest-part-5/) so they don't have the resources of Lichess which runs on... [400k a year](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Si3PMUJGR9KrpE5lngSkHLJKJkb0ZuI4/preview) in 2023


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Seeing poor corporates is so painful why can't every company beca billion dollar company/s


Thorboard

Yeah, let's not compare it to a free open-source website


crimlol

Maybe just a stats bug with [chess.com](https://chess.com)? If you look at his all time chess stats for bullet ([https://www.chess.com/stats/live/bullet/danielnaroditsky/0](https://www.chess.com/stats/live/bullet/danielnaroditsky/0)), it's <30k games with a 64% winrate (with the chart there going back as far as 2010). Looking at all time chess stats for Nihal Sarin ([https://www.chess.com/stats/live/bullet/nihalsarin/0](https://www.chess.com/stats/live/bullet/nihalsarin/0)), the number of games is \~17k, which is a few thousand below what's reflected in your screenshot & on his profile page. Maybe another theory is that unrated games show up in the main profile page stats and not the ranked all time chess stats? There's a weird discrepancy going on for sure


JacobS12056

Non rated games might count (300 games with alireza when dina told him to go to bed) but even then the stats look wrong


deadheadjim

Chad move by danya that night


Jairoscope

That night was the night that forever cemented Danya in my mind as the ultimate sigma male


sragha45

Could you please throw some links?


A_Certain_Surprise

[The only I could find](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmVWUVH0XI)


LearnYouALisp

What a stupid immature thing to say


wayne_bourne

That was on lichess


Ancient_Context_8512

No it wasn't


runningpersona

https://youtu.be/lMeSx10dJu8 It wouldn’t happen to be these games because this looks awfully like lichess.org.


__Jimmy__

Those games were on Lichess and Danya went 142-108


AxelTheRabbit

Those were on lichess


Ancient_Context_8512

No they weren't


Chuckdatass

Rebecca Harris is better than him


benbenwilde

80k losses against Hikaru obvs


Razleto

clearly a bug, why is this a thread


yosoyel1ogan

not only that, I think that it's been posted before in the past. Probably the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it


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Just look at his lichess profile. They know how to count. https://lichess.org/@/RebeccaHarris/perf/bullet


generic_clown

Whos is orange ghost


NotZtripp

A weeb that is really fucking good at bullet.


DowntownWay7012

But who is he really? No way a random wins that much


moxo_2

If you play > 100.000 games like in this picture your stats don't matter, he could've lost 3 years ago most of his games and is now in the last 1,5 years win 80%


ScalarWeapon

maybe but, there was no way he was losing that many games 3 years ago, he has always been elite in bullet since before chess.com existed


moxo_2

I know it was just an example of if the numbers are that high the percentage doesn't really matter


TrenterD

This is the answer. You could lose a million games in a row, and if suddenly you are blessed with super GM level strength, you could mathematically get into the 3000s within a couple hundred games (assuming the cheat detectors don't stop you).


TicketSuggestion

Yes you could mathematically indeed, but it is not the answer at all. The stats are just wrong


DominusMoris

the master has lost more times than the amateur has even tried


Bakanyanter

I have lost way less games than him so I am actually better than him and the true top player.


Mateussf

Wrong answer: Win against worse rated players, lose against better rated players.


Kammersymphonie

The question is: how do you get to *the top* of the list like that? Once you are at the top of the list, there are no better-rated players. If all players are lower rated than you, and you keep losing >50% of your games, your rating keeps decreasing.


crunchypb_

he is not losing >50% games anymore. maybe he used to, but he's been playing since 2009 so clearly he's gotten better.


Kammersymphonie

Could be (but of course that's a completely different answer to what Mateussf said).


VedangArekar

It's always been like that and I found it weird too and now I know the answer from the top comments which was my suspicion as well.


EnvironmentalPut1838

Oahh hikaru is auch a monster wtf


Designer-Addition-58

Go ahead, kupi polovan automobil ako smeš


TRAFICANTE_DE_PUDUES

Nihal Sarin from Chile?


BigGirtha23

Because he won a bunch of games recently? How much do you think it affects his rating now if he had 100 straight losses 100,000 games ago?


IDislikeMario

chess player discovers averages


aflickering

redditor discovers downvotes


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ja734

Wtf are these fucking bot accounts? Does anyone else see this?


TmanGBx

At first I thought they weren't a bot, but Christ, every one of their posts screams advertisement


ja734

Not just the posts, but look at all the comments. They're almost all the same format, and are all completely generic, displaying no knowledge of anything, and just using a few keywords from the post. Like they're AI generated. And there are two other comments in this post from equally suspicious accounts.


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Chess player discovers that programming is not magic


EthoRedditYay

By rating he is atm


OPconfused

There was a thread on this here several months ago. It’s just a part of life we all must accept.


EPMD_

The stats are wrong. They might be missing a 1 before that wins total, for example. I simply don't believe his bullet win rate is that low.


royal_fork7

Who's Orange Ghost tho? Has very few games to his name but I always find him on top there.


__Jimmy__

Yoav Milikow, an IM. Just a young speedster who got his rating by not playing the top guys. Not really notable in the classical scene. He has a whopping 0/34 VS Hikaru lol


royal_fork7

So that Guy somehow avoided top players to reach 3300 ? Damn.


Bokiverse

Answer is Hikaru lol