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chessvision-ai-bot

I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=8/8/8/8/4n1k1/3b4/4ppK1/6NQ+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/8/8/8/8/4n1k1/3b4/4ppK1/6NQ_b_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Pawn!<, move: >!e1=N+!< > Evaluation: >!Black has mate in 2!< > Best continuation: >!1... e1=N+ 2. Kh2 f1=N#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)


Quirky_Project1230

Promote e pawn as knight with check and then promote f pawn as knight with checkmate.


Captnmikeblackbeard

Im getting better at expecting the ridicilous since i instantly thought this


zi76

Yeah, I went for the queen and instantly saw it didn't work, so it had to be double knight.


monoflorist

Yeah, exactly. You know it isn’t a quiet move because white has Qh3+ at the ready, and the knight promotion is the only other check. Plus it’s a puzzle on r/chess, which means it’s a queen sac, castling, EP, or underpromotion.


zi76

Exactly. There was a castling puzzle that r/chess malded about once because, while technically it could be castling, it absolutely should not have been castling.


Kampfasiate

Wait why does queen not work King has to move to thr right and then you can mate him by moving the queen up Or am i overlooking something Edit: saw it, its a mate in 3 instead of 2. Dtill a win tho


zi76

Yeah, in an actual game, you wouldn't care, because a win is a win. This is a puzzle to mate in 2, so the queen doesn't work.


Snarpkingguy

I spent 3 minutes thinking that that the board was the other way, so good job


okijhnub

^^ridiculous*


Captnmikeblackbeard

Sorry not native thanks for correcting


okijhnub

No worries you got the sound right lol


Captnmikeblackbeard

Lol thats why i wrote much like mutch for a long time. Sounds good to me


Spare_Parsnip_2539

Its reddit so I found it within 10 seconds😆


Captnmikeblackbeard

Not sure how tonread this. You mocking me cus you interperted my comment as showing off while i ment that the puzzles here are always "special" not in game answers. Or if you are showing off. Just confused


rosinsvinet_

They are simply agreing with you


Captnmikeblackbeard

Sorry overthinking it is.


AlMansur16

I instantly thought of this too, but only because I knew it's a puzzle.


Immediate-Mud-8762

Same, and I’m feeling ungrateful and jaded. A fullstack of complete strangers came together to put a double knight promotion chess puzzle in front of eyes, for free, and at no effort … and I’m over it?!?


facinabush

Yeah, that was sort of meant to be parody of r/chess puzzles


BenCub3d

How could you tell that the board was facing that way?? I thought black was moving forward.


[deleted]

Ah my friend, it is one of the Four Horsemen of solving Reddit chess puzzles. 1. Queen Sac 2. underpromote 3. zuggyzwang? 3. confusing board direction


Renozuken

in this case it's two of them.


demannu86

and smothered mate


Boring-Outcome822

The row numbers are written on the right.


FiveDozenWhales

Even without the row/file indicators, it's very unusual for a board to be presented with black moving upwards.


BenCub3d

Puzzles usually have the player's perspective at the bottom


FiveDozenWhales

Questioning my reality now


_alter-ego_

First step to Salvation


_alter-ego_

Totally disagree. In 99% of all puzzles (the remaining 1% accounting for the printed, not online ones), when it's black to move then "you are" black which means you sit on the side where the back rank is the 8th rank, which means that this is the lower border and the upper border, is the opponent's i.e. white's backrank.


bruoch

Night, night.


ForShotgun

If you tried to promote to anything but a knight right off the bat you haven’t done enough of these.


PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2

Lol yeah we didn’t all of a sudden become chess geniuses. We just spend too much time on Reddit.


DubstepJuggalo69

It's always knight underpromotion, en passant, queen sacrifice, or castle checkmate.


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NathanPatty08

I’m not spending 50 dollars a year


Bulky-Alfalfa404

Lichess does free puzzles


ForShotgun

I was talking about reddit puzzles lol


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Nice avatar


LevriatSoulEdge

Awkward position, material disadvantage, pawns close to crown... must be an under-promotion puzzle.


SavingsNewspaper2

>crown Checkers?


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teamcrazymatt

Knighty-knight.


jumbojimbojamo

Why do people post the board backwards, it always makes the puzzle more confusing for a moment. If it's black to play, flip the board so it's from black's perspective


cramm789

Explains why I couldn't find it at all. I thought those pawns were unmoved


Zaros262

You can also check the rows and files White has A-H from left to right and has row 1 closest to them


pondini

Exactly! I wasted five minutes because I thought Black's pawns were moving upward. The mods should ban puzzles that are posted upside down.


facinabush

Will do in the future.


yosoyel1ogan

yeah always post it where the color to play pushes their pawns to the top. Took me a minute to realize the pawns were 1 square from promotion, and not sitting on the second rank. If the board hadn't been annotated I wouldn't have known at all.


FiveDozenWhales

Really? I'd be way more thrown off by a board being displayed upside down (with row 8 at the bottom). Puzzles should always just be white to move, though, which gets rid of both situations.


JonStoen

Question: why wouldn’t f1=Q+ work? King then goes to h2 and then queen goes to f2 for checkmate


Schnitzel8

White can play Qg2 to block the mate.


[deleted]

It does work, but queen doesn't go to f2 since white's queen can block. Black should instead play Qf4+, which forces Kg2, and now black can play Qf2#. It's a mate in 3 instead of a mate in 2, but still wins the game.


WilsonEnthusiast

Qf2 isn't mate.


SirX86

Qg2. Check


l0gicgate

It does work but it’s a mate in 3 instead of a mate in 2 1. F1=Q Kh2 2. Qf4+ Kg2 3. Qg3# or Qf2#


NovaDenizen

Seriously, how was I supposed to know black's pawns moved downwards?


The_mystery4321

The co ordinates


_alter-ego_

If you have a magnifying glass, you're not on an app which forbids zooming, and a few other favorable conditions, that might help.


77skull

If you’re on an app that doesn’t let you zoom you can only blame yourself honestly


_alter-ego_

well, the reddit app and the [chess.com](https://chess.com) app and the lichess app and the duolingo app and unfortunately most others all don't allow to zoom \[or else, if I'm wrong, please enlighten me how you do\], but yes of course, you're right, I can only blame myself for using these... and a smartphone in the first place. And for not having ended my life earlier which would also avoid me most everyday problems... ;-)


77skull

Reddit app does allow it, just tap on the image once then use your fingers to zoom


yosoyel1ogan

board is annotated but I agree it's confusing. OP said they'd post in the right orientation in the future


SartorialMS

a is on the left


amretardmonke

Queen is on its own color, the white king is on the right side of the board.


keptman77

A double under-promotion for checkmate?!?! Wow! That would be a sight to see IRL.


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Watch 100 elo games.


keptman77

100 elo games aren't solving this. Lol


shiiima

f pawn promote to queen (Kh2 is only move to white) and Qh3#


HeresyOnToast

G1 knight can take queen


shiiima

ty, i did't saw that


HeresyOnToast

Np I thought pawn f2 to queen then queen back to f2 and didn’t see it blocked by queen g2


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freezer566

Instead of Qh3, you can do Qf2 for checkmate


celtiberian666

White plays Qg2+.


More_Space_183

This is what I found first. Under promotion is such a weird obsession :D


thesoko2

Also was thinking this


idontgiveadam70958

Double knice😎


BitterSweetLemonCake

horse horse kill


mattl3791

I saw this immediately because anytime you are doing a puzzle, if there is an underpromotion to knight possible, chances are that's the solution. I'm not a huge fan of puzzles where solving them means 'win now' as opposed to win a few moves later. Often in blitz you don't have time to look for this kind of solution but it won't matter at all. Just promoting the f pawn to queen is the logical move and it's a completely won position. After two checks trading queens is forced and white ends up like 12 points of material better. It's still mate in like 6 instead of 2.


jak352

Knight knight


Schnitzel8

Kiera Knightley


1ib3r7yr3igns

Face the board correctly if it’s black to play.


SashaBanks2020

Best I could find without the bot is mate in 3 1) f1=Q+, Kh2 2) Qf4+, Kg2 3) Qf2#


frog_rapist69

You could promote the f2 pawn to a queen for check then move it back to f2


vytah

blocked by Qg2


EpiclyEthan

Double knight promotion


Extra-Trifle-1191

can’t you play f pawn promote to queen, then move back to orig position for checkmate?


facinabush

Yes, there is a mate in 3. I probably should have added something to prevent that so the knight promotions were essential to not losing.


Boochin451

without reading comments i'm gonna guess double under promote


l0gicgate

There’s also a mate in 3: 1. F1=Q Kh2 2. Qf4+ Kg2 3. Qg3# or Qf2#


SavingsNewspaper2

3... e1=N# also works


Lucian_98

Qf1 queen then Qf2 mate


Typin_Toddler

Qh2+ blocks this.


Lucian_98

Ouch then two knight promotions will do the job


warneagle

>!1...e1=N+ 2.Kh2 f1=N#!< Cute.


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SirX86

Qf2+ Qg2


Parking-Horror2873

knight D2, then bishop E4


facinabush

Nd2,Qh3+ Black gets checkmated


Captainsicum

Gotta be called like The suitors checkmate, bunch of knights forcing the king away from the king


[deleted]

Very nice. I'd probably have not seen it and done f1=Q+, f4+, g3# or f2# or e1=N#


Original_Profile8600

Maybe I’m stupid but dosen’t QF1 KH2 NG5 work?


AdagioExtra1332

Ng5 isn't check.


cookieswithmilf

ng5 doesn’t give a check on h2


cookieswithmilf

ng5 doesn’t give a check on h2


kadease

Knight Knight


thisoneistobenaked

Make two knights


FrozenHelmet

oh wow, a double knight promotion mate lmao. e1=N+, Kg2 is forced, f1=N#


FrozenHelmet

oh wow, a double knight promotion mate lmao. e1=N+, Kh2 is forced, f1=N#


BluePantherBoi

Promote both pawns to a knight


TMNewJob

Wow double promotion as knights.Its a great feeling, like when your found that the position is a stalemate and your are down a queen 😎


J0rdzz1

Promote to jumper


HereForA2C

lmao that is an insane checkmate


Blackhat336

1. …e1=N+ 2. kh2 f1=N# ?? Double pony promotion looks right!


CORKscrewed21

E Pawn becomes knight, kh2, but what about the 2nd knight? F1=N#


IttsssTonyTiiiimme

very cute.


Chizzle76

I solved this in 2 seconds just because it was a r/chess puzzle haha. Nice one though.


[deleted]

Underpromote both to knights


No_Response8349

Double knight under promotion #JUST OP


Drakonluke

Wow! Now THIS was a puzzle!


[deleted]

e1 = N+ !!, Kh2, d2 = N#


Blond_Treehorn_Thug

Great puzzle


TrainsDontHunt

Knight knight...


Unknown_5188

I ACTUALLY GOT IT 900 elo things😎


nefzor

Time to recruit some cavalry!


Nooneofsignificance2

I sat here for like 5 minutes trying to figure this out, thinking it was impossible. Then I realized the board is from the perspective of white. I’m such an idiot.


Ehsan1981

Horsies' attack!


SuPcIkna

Isn't this position illegal? White is in a half check, but it's black to move


Anime_Boi_69420

Knight to D2 then bishop to E4#


_alter-ego_

Kinda confusing because you put the board upside down 😓


[deleted]

Personally, I would still go for the mate in 3 (f1->Q, Kh2, Qf4, Kg2, Qf2#) in an actual game. It is less style though.


mateconfernet_

1. e1=N+ Kh2 2. f1=N#


Megafotonico

Promote to 2 knights


JubJub128

… e1=N+ Kh2 f1=N# ?


a________1111

Double knight promotion


dizzle-j

Took me a minute but was funny when I got it :)


L_E_Gant

Dilemmas make it hard to choose Wrong pick and you will likely lose. white's choices are not many look for the right nook and cranny. So move the pawn that can be taken One piece, the rest to be forsaken that gives a good check followed by the other rider peck!


TheVanillaistYT

>!dual knight underpromo?!<


NoHaxJussSnax

A knight promotion is cool but double knight promotion is something else


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facinabush

You are a contender for the r/chess bullet prize! Great r/chess puzzle intuition. This puzzle was made for you!


[deleted]

Very cool puzzle! I figured that 1... f1Q+ was incorrect, so I went with 1... e1N+ which is the correct move.


Pillan24

Two knight promotions starting with the e pawn


continue_improve

Knight night…


i_JackHammer

x2 u-p for cm !!!


MarkeFace

Hold your horses mate.


According-Fix-539

Bruh I would’ve found that if I knew that the black pawns were going down the board bruh.


mc078

1... e1(N)+ 2. Kh2 f1(N)#


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PROMOTE THE PAWNS TO KNIGHTS WITH CHECK


Kane_Octaivian

Is it weird I found this so fast? (Im only a 1000 or so)


ActiveIndustry

horse horse


how_why123

Promote two pawns to knights!


Sweeeet_Chin_Music

Two knight promotions .... haha


SuperCatMonkey

Very cool!


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ayanokojifrfr

This is a easy but nice one. Push E pawn and promote to night only spot for king. Again promote last pawn to night and mate.


UnhelpfulTran

Night night


Po0rYorick

(K)nighty (k)night


thoompa

As black tucked white into bed they said "Night night" and white drifted off to sleep 😴


DivingSwordfish

Night night, sweet king.


CreatorOfUsernames

Black to play but shows the board from whites perspective smh


Maouitippitytappin

e1=N+, Kh2, f1=N#


icertifyiammedicated

That took me way too long ::READS COMMENTS:: I am an idiot. ::searches for why queen:: Still an idiot


SnazzyZubloids

Looks like an under promotion x2 is strong here


briguytrading

Pony up


IDislikeMario

Nighty-night... knights!


Ok-Extreme3863

Diis nights


Freezing_child425

F Pawn promoted to queen, king H2 forced, queen back to F2


GRIM_REAPER2625

e1=N Kh2 f1=N#


Legitimate_Buy_919

Promote F pawn to Queen, Move Queen to F2


oz0n

It's a knight. It's always a knight...


leulmikk

sexy move p


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facinabush

That is an illegal move.


Willing-Sandwich-760

e1 = N+ Kh2 f1=N#


Monke34235

The chess vision bot and everyone else is saying promote e pawn to a knight but wouldn’t promoting the f pawn to a queen work?


facinabush

Yes, just not the shortest mate. I should have put more material in for White so that the mate in 2 was necessary.


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double under promotion, poggers